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Tony La Russa Retires

By Tim Dierkes | October 31, 2011 at 9:14am CDT

Tony La Russa is retiring after 33 seasons as a manager, and he's going out on top.  He told reporters his decision today at a press conference, three days after his Cardinals won the World Series.  La Russa captured three World Championships in his career and won Manager of the Year four times.  He managed the White Sox, Athletics, and Cardinals in a career that began in 1979.  Prior to that, La Russa played six seasons in the Majors as a middle infielder.

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  1. gocrazy

    14 years ago

    Thanks for the championships, Tony!

    Reply
    • stl_cards16

      14 years ago

      I’m in shock.  Tony has managed the team since I was 10 years old.  It’s going to feel strange next season. 

      But yes, thanks for the memories Tony.  You will forever be a part of Cardinal baseball.

      Reply
      • chico65

        14 years ago

        Didn’t expect this at all but who can argue with going out on top?

        Reply
  2. 5_tool_MiLB_fool

    14 years ago

    i wonder how colby rasmus must feel about everything that has happened the last few days

    Reply
    • Keeg

      14 years ago

      Why? He still gets a ring…..

      Reply
      • start_wearing_purple

        14 years ago

        I always wondered how players felt about that. Sure he gets the ring but no thrill of the postseason experience.

        Reply
        • Lunchbox45

          14 years ago

          i’m sure those are the rings that end up on ebay, they have no emotional attachment to the ring

          Reply
          • chico65

            14 years ago

            I think they may have an emotional attachment to them, just a negative one.  That’s got to be one of the worst feelings, seeing the team that just got rid of you win it all.

            Reply
        • Jeff 30

          14 years ago

          Pawn stars baby.

          Reply
      • StoutSTL

        14 years ago

        Do you really think that he is going to be proud of that ring? He may have it, but is most certainly NOT a part of the 2011 World Series champions.

        Reply
        • Cards_Fanboy

          14 years ago

          If it wasn’t for Colby, the Cards wouldn’t have gotten the players to
          win it this year.  He deserves a ring because of that, even though he
          wasn’t there in the post-season.  Probably not something he’ll be too proud of though.

          Reply
      • JohnS

        14 years ago

        yes but did not deserve it…

        Reply
    • Lunchbox45

      14 years ago

       its probably easier to watch a team win a championship after being traded

      then watching them win a championship from the bench

      Reply
      • StoutSTL

        14 years ago

        I would think that ANY ballplayer would rather win on the bench than from another team. Do you really think that Colby Rasmus jumped around his living room like Adron Chambers jumped around the field at Busch Stadium? If he did, he is truly the loser that I believe him to be.

        Reply
        • Lunchbox45

          14 years ago

          I’m not sure what you mean… i just meant that being part of a championship team as a 24 year old and not playing, knowing your manager doesn’t like you and not really feeling a part of the team, I dont see how that would have been so wonderful for Colby to experience. 

          Reply
  3. MB923

    14 years ago

    Great managerial career Tony. Next stop, Hall of Fame.

    Reply
  4. Guest 6357

    14 years ago

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Reply
  5. Dwan

    14 years ago

    wow

    Reply
  6. Stev84

    14 years ago

    Congrats Tony on a World Championship. Nice way to go out on top.

    Reply
  7. schellis

    14 years ago

    Makes you wonder if he knows that Pujols likely isn’t coming back.

    Reply
    • start_wearing_purple

      14 years ago

      I doubt one thing has to do with another. LaRussa has pretty much proven everything he can as a manager, is a lock for the Hall, and gets to say he’s going out after a historic run.

      Side question… so who manages the NL all star team next year?

      Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        14 years ago

        it would still be La Russa..

        Reply
        • start_wearing_purple

          14 years ago

          Even if he’s retired?

          Reply
          • Lunchbox45

            14 years ago

            I googled it because I was curious as well, and their is some precedent of retired/not currently employed managers coming back to manage the all star game..

            The honour is given to the coach, not the team so its his to decline.

            Reply
            • start_wearing_purple

              14 years ago

              Makes sense. Thanks.

              Reply
      • The_BiRDS

        14 years ago

        The new Cardinals manager.

        Reply
        • dilbert719

          14 years ago

          This is actually the one thing that pretty definitively won’t happen. When a manager earns the right to manage the All-Star Game, and for whatever reason cannot represent the team with which he reached the World Series, the league has sometimes permitted them to manage representing their new team, and sometimes selected the next in line to have managed in the World Series, but they have never once permitted the new manager of the team that won to manage in the All-Star Game.

          Reply
      • dilbert719

        14 years ago

        Wikipedia has a list of some unusual circumstances, and how they were handled. The right to manage the All-Star team goes to the manager, not the team, so (for example) when Dusty Baker managed the Giants to the World Series, and then went to the Cubs, Baker still managed the NL. Similarly, when Dick Williams resigned from the A’s in 73, and became Angels manager for ’74, he managed the AL.

        In 1979, Bob Lemon managed the AL team after being fired from the Yankees in the offseason, but in 1982, when Lemon was again fired (midseason), Billy Martin, manager of the AL runner-up A’s, managed the team.

        After 1964, both managers left their teams and went to the opposite league. Johnny Keane left the Cardinals to manage the Yankees, Yogi Berra left the Yankees to manage the Mets. Rather than manage either the league they left or the one they joined, MLB chose the managers of the second-place teams, Al Lopez of the White Sox and Gene Mauch of the Phillies (who actually were tied with the Reds, but the Reds’ manager in 1964, Fred Hutchinson, had died in the off-season, so they selected Mauch without any further discussion.)

        Also, in the first All-Star game, before it was expected to be an annual thing, they chose not the previous WS winners, but the two men regarded as the most venerable managers in the game: Connie Mack and John McGraw, who actually came out of retirement to manage that game.

        All this is by way of saying that it’s up to MLB, and then Tony LaRussa. If they’re willing, and he’s interested, LaRussa may be permitted to come out of retirement on a one-game only basis, and manage the All-Star Team. If they do not permit it, or LaRussa is disinclined to do so, Ron Roenicke will likely manage the team in LaRussa’s stead.

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        • alxn

          14 years ago

          I have to think that they won’t let that happen. If they let a retired guy with no vesting interest manage the NL team with home field advantage in the World Series on the line, the all-star game will become even more of a joke than it already is.

          Reply
          • cedarandstone

            14 years ago

            Maybe Selig will manage the NL side this year.

            Reply
      • chico65

        14 years ago

        I don’t think Pujols’ decision would influence Tony’s, but Tony’s has got to have an influence on Pujols’.

        Reply
        • Shu13

          14 years ago

          I agree….TLR’s decision is for sure going to influence Pujols…atleast how much $$ he will accept to return….

          Reply
    • stl_cards16

      14 years ago

      They said Tony actually decided this awhile back.  It’s just time for him to go.

      Reply
  8. Poppa Flan

    14 years ago

    Thank you Tony for everything you’ve done for baseball! Great to see him ride off into the sunset on top. That’s the way to go.

    Reply
  9. Kevin Bangert

    14 years ago

    Thank you God! 🙂

    But seriously Tony really got on my nerves a lot, but he still brought 2 championships here so I thank him for that. Way to go out on top too.

    Reply
  10. $1742854

    14 years ago

    I hope you can be a little less smug during your retirement years.

    Reply
  11. Joseph Cecala

    14 years ago

    He was a crazy, crazy man but he won and left riding off into the sunset.

    Reply
  12. leberquesgue

    14 years ago

    What is the procedure for managers entering the HoF? Same five year waiting period? Or are they decided by the Veterans’ Committee?

    Reply
  13. Alec

    14 years ago

    This job is Oquendo’s.

    Reply
    • Adam

      14 years ago

      I rather hope not.  I realize Oquendo is a fan favorite from the late 80’s, but I don’t agree with a lot of his decisions as third base coach (which is the only kind of decision making you can solely judge him on).

      It’s also telling that whenever LaRussa was out with shingles, suspended, or thrown out, he placed his bench coach in charge of the team ahead of Oquendo.  Some might argue it’s because he doesn’t want to put a base coach in charge, but he’s done it in the past with Rene Lachemann.

      Just something to think about.  I personally hope they can get Joe Maddon, but I think he has an option with TB and they will want compensation.

      Reply
      • Lanidrac

        14 years ago

        Oquendo is generally recognized as a great 3B coach. He recognizes that you need to be agressive most of the time and gets us a lot more runs from his agressiveness than we lose from somebody being thrown out at the plate.

        Reply
  14. Adam

    14 years ago

    This is one of the best spots in baseball for a manager.  I wonder who is next, I would like to see a young up and comer over a guy that was around a while.

    Reply
    • stl_cards16

      14 years ago

      The secret weapon!!

      Reply
      • Adam

        14 years ago

        As long as Big Mac comes back.  I assume they are going to be looking for a pitching coach as well.

        Reply
        • Triteon

          14 years ago

          That probably has more to do with what happens with Jeanine Duncan in the off-season.

          Reply
      • Triteon

        14 years ago

        Super Joe is also out there.

        Reply
    • tomr

      14 years ago

      The X Factor!  David Eckstein.  Definitely won’t happen and would probably be a train wreck.  But, it would still be interesting to see. 

      Reply
      • Wainwrights_Curveball

        14 years ago

        Mike Matheny

        Reply
  15. carpengui

    14 years ago

    Gotta wonder now if the Cards want to consult with Albert and how this could impact him returning.

    Reply
    • stl_cards16

      14 years ago

      I would say yes, but I think Albert’s #1 guy would be the same as the Cardinals.  I’m fairly confident Jose Oquendo will be the next manager.  Albert is very close with him and he seems to be the next in line.

      Reply
    • The_BiRDS

      14 years ago

      Doesnt matter… Im sure if Tony knew about this weeks ago, Pujols did too. Either way Albert knew he is going to play for a new manager next year.

      Reply
  16. Andrew W.

    14 years ago

    I heard he’s going to make five pitching changes and go drunk driving to celebrate.

    Reply
    • stl_cards16

      14 years ago

      Way to show some class, Andrew.

      Reply
      • slole1

        14 years ago

        Classy just like Tony? 

        Reply
        • gtl11

          14 years ago

          Ending your HOF career just a handful of games shy of 2nd place all-time after a historic WS run is pretty damn classy, actually.

          Reply
          • slole1

            14 years ago

            So is drinking and driving. Keeping it very classy…

            Reply
            • Sean

              14 years ago

              because you have never done that before hypocrite

              Reply
          • cedarandstone

            14 years ago

            Classy?

            Yeah, you wouldn’t want to show up 138-year-old John McGraw.

            Reply
          • Phillies_Aces35

            14 years ago

            That’s not class. Roger Clemens won over 300 games and is near the top of the strikeout charts… is he classy?

            It’s success and excellence, which Tony had a lot of.

            Tony has a lot of character flaws but I’m sure a lot of people who don’t like him also do. Ultimately, people are going to remember him for being a Hall of Fame Manager, not drunk driving (which is horrible and really inexcusable).

            Was he a classy individual? Debatable. He did a lot of things that I personally dislike and found irritating, but other than the drunk driving, I wouldn’t consider anything he’s done classless.

            Reply
      • Andrew W.

        14 years ago

        Way to defend a convicted drunk driver, dude on the internet.

        Reply
        • stl_cards16

          14 years ago

          I’m sure you have just as many flaws as Tony.  Just nobody cares about you so it doesn’t matter or get made public.

          Reply
    • cubsfan97

      14 years ago

      Seriously dude, show some respect.  Hes accomplished more in the last month than you ever will. 

      Reply
      • Andrew W.

        14 years ago

        Why should I show respect to a proven drunk driver? I would react the same way if a Cub were to get a DUI, join the Tea Party and make every single baseball game last a bajillion hours. I hate Tony LaRussa, think he’s a huge piece of trash and I know I’m not alone in that opinion.

        Reply
        • Guest 6356

          14 years ago

          Yeah but at the end of the day he’ll be in the baseball HOF and all you’ll have is the chlamydia infection you got from a prostitute while working your day job at the Walmart loading dock. Perspective. People make mistakes.

          Reply
          • start_wearing_purple

            14 years ago

            It’s not often I say this to you. Nice zinger.

            Reply
          • Andrew W.

            14 years ago

            Perspective? What are you talking about? What I have at the end of the day is a girlfriend who loves me, a good job and a nice house to live in.

            And yeah, people make mistakes, but that doesn’t mean I have to forgive or respect them.

            Reply
            • BlueSkyLA

              14 years ago

              My Life is Good and Yours Sucks.™

              Reply
            • alxn

              14 years ago

              No, you don’t. But it just makes you look like a douche. To each his own.

              Reply
          • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

            14 years ago

            I don’t really get what’s classless about pointing out TLR’s DUI.

            Reply
            • gtl11

              14 years ago

              I don’t think it’s classless, but let me put it this way: will people be talking about Derek Lowe’s DUI when he retires? What about Ron Washington’s coke habit? People remember the DUI for Larussa because they don’t like him. He was arrested with a BAC of .08. If he had drank a couple less sips of wine all we would have heard was an embarrassing story about how he fell asleep at a traffic light. Instead it’s “OMG he’s a total alcoholic!!!”. People who still talk about his DUI do so simply because they don’t like him, not because it’s a relevant way of judging him as a human being.

              Reply
              • Andrew W.

                14 years ago

                That’s definitely a valid point (although he blew a .09-something when they took him in, so he was a good deal over the limit) and I appreciate you putting it in an eloquent way. 

                I have always disliked Tony LaRussa for just about every reason possible, and yeah, it does make me more likely to bring up something like his DUI. At the same time, I think it’s stupid to act like he was the greatest guy ever just because he managed in the majors.  When Derek Lowe retires I could definitely see making a DUI joke, and the same goes for Ron Washington. They’re people that are in a position to serve as role models and, while lapses in judgement are part of the human condition, I don’t understand why I’m apparently not allowed to consider those mistakes as part of my view of them as a person. He had a great career as a manager, and nobody can ever take that away from him, but that doesn’t mean making a joke about him is out of line.

                Reply
                • stl_cards16

                  14 years ago

                  Delete. Not doing it

                  Reply
                  • Andrew W.

                    14 years ago

                    And I get sick of people saying “They get paid to win so why should they worry about being role models?” As figures who are respected, shouldn’t they take into consideration the fact that things that they do will be imitated? I’m not saying they have to be perfect people all the time, but that’s a gigantic mistake to make when you’re in a role that people look up to. A month after Tony’s DUI, what’s-his-name on the Cards died while driving under the influence; are you REALLY so naïve as to think that Tony’s little incident is completely unrelated? I’m not trying to “make it like he killed someone,” but he easily could have, and that’s why I don’t respect him. If I had proof that guys on the Cubs were drinking and driving I would immediately stop respecting them, too. This isn’t a team rivalry thing, it’s a “this guy seems pretty crappy based on a lot of factors and I don’t like him” thing.

                    Christ, I didn’t think making a simple joke would open up the flood gates so badly.

                    Reply
                    • casorgreener

                      14 years ago

                      If it had been somebody stl-cards disliked he would be right there with you dogging him.  People give out passes to athletes/stars they like and crucify the one they don;t like.  

                      RARELY is somebody a fair judge of character

                      Reply
                      • stl_cards16

                        14 years ago

                        “RARELY is somebody a fair judge of character”

                        yet you judge my character over the freaking internet. You look back thru all of my comments on MLBTR and you come tell me how many times I have talked about anyones off the field issues.

                        Reply
              • TartanElk

                14 years ago

                I like Ron Washington, for some reason, yet I still make fun of the whole coke thing. It’s just too good to pass up. I’ve had my problems with illicit substances, so it’s even more fun for me!

                I don’t like Tony as a person. He’s just awful. I don’t make fun of his DUI because I hate him, I do it because it gives me great jokes such as, “Watch out for TLR, Furcal and Freese on the road tonight.”

                Reply
          • Adam

            14 years ago

            They are probably Cubs fans.  Jesus could be the manager and never lost a game, they would still have something bad to say.

            Reply
            • cubsfan97

              14 years ago

              Dont judge all Cubs fans like that.  Most I cannot stand, but Im in the very limited few that like LaRussa.  Think of it this way, LaRussa started the one inning closer.  Without LaRussa, Eckersly probably never made the HOF, and Mariano probably aint the greatest closer ever cause hed be expected to pitch 2-3 for every save.

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        • StoutSTL

          14 years ago

          Just because you are not alone, does not mean you are correct. This is one of the greatest minds in the history of the game. I learned a long time ago to not throw someone under the bus because of one mistake. He did it. It was a HUGE mistake. He apologized, faced a judge and has not done it since. I do believe that he deserves some credit for this.

          Reply
          • Andrew W.

            14 years ago

            I cheated on my girlfriend once, apologized and I haven’t done it since, do I deserve credit for that? I never said the guy didn’t have a brilliant take on the game of baseball, that fact is indisputable, but I don’t agree that he “deserves credit” for admitting that he put everyone else driving at that time in a lot of danger because he couldn’t get a cab with his millions of dollars.

            Reply
        • Sean

          14 years ago

          hypocrite

          Reply
    • highski

      14 years ago

      Grow up.

      Reply
    • Adam

      14 years ago

      Yawn.

      Reply
  17. cam39

    14 years ago

    Good spot for Francona.

    Reply
  18. jps3k5

    14 years ago

    Maybe Terry Francona?

    Reply
    • chico65

      14 years ago

      You and cam39 have some sort of ESP or something?

      Reply
    • highski

      14 years ago

      Though he is under contract for 2012, perhaps Joe Maddon could be a potential target.

      Reply
  19. slole1

    14 years ago

    More time to go drive drunk now and more time to work on that lifetime supply of Just For Men. Regardless of what people say, the guy won 1 steroid fueled championship (at least), and was one of the biggest whiners the game has ever seen. 

    Hopefully he can direct all of his new time to working on his stray Animal Foundation – you know to help animals rather then people (smug conservative POS).

    One of the most dishonest men in baseball I ever came across and yeah he was a good manager, but as a person he is horrible and will get his in the end.

    Reply
    • twenty1thirteen

      14 years ago

      “One of the most dishonest men in baseball I ever came across and yeah he was a good manager, but as a person he is horrible and will get his in the end.”

      I mean he is a licensed attorney and a supporter of the Tea Party. Just sayin’.

      Reply
      • $1639238

        14 years ago

        Seeing that he if BFFs with Bruce Springsteen and runs a pretty animal shelters, I’m willing to take him at his word that he was just too stupid to know who Glenn Beck was when he introduced Pujols at that rally.

        Reply
    • $7562574

      14 years ago

      dunderhead!

      Reply
  20. chaifetz10

    14 years ago

    It was always assumed Oquendo would be next in line for the job…hopefully that is still the case

    Reply
    • cedarandstone

      14 years ago

      I hear that Oquendo is going to Manage, 1st base coach, 3rd base coach, pitching and bench all in one game.

      Reply
  21. Andrew Black

    14 years ago

    Calling it now. Cardinals resign Pujols as PlayerManager

    Reply
  22. sports33

    14 years ago

    He’s about to have the most overfed garden on the block.

    Reply
  23. $7562574

    14 years ago

    great career.

    Reply
  24. jondogg2010

    14 years ago

    Leave it to a yankee fan to be a tool.

    Reply
  25. jondogg2010

    14 years ago

    Didn’t see that coming!

    Reply
  26. stl_cards16

    14 years ago

    I would say it has no impact on either.  Albert will do what Albert’s going to do.

    This was probably going to be Duncan’s last year anyway.  He’s going to spend time with his wife and family as he should. 

    Reply
  27. JohnnyHamer

    14 years ago

    Pujols: Player/Manager.

    Reply
  28. acr1

    14 years ago

    I’d bet Dave Duncan is as good as gone too.

    Reply
    • Andy_B

      14 years ago

      he signed a three year deal and said his future isn’t necessarily tied to LaRussa’s

      Reply
  29. Andy_B

    14 years ago

    Figure it’s either Ocquendo or Tony Francona.

    Reply
    • sports33

      14 years ago

      Oquendo or Terry Francona?

      Reply
      • Andy_B

        14 years ago

        LOL him to.

        Reply
        • sports33

          14 years ago

          No problem. I didn’t mean to be rude or anything like that, was just trying to help you get your point across.

          Reply
    • Adam

      14 years ago

      Francona sucks.  Trade for Joe Maddon he wants to be in St. Louis.

      Reply
  30. alan09

    14 years ago

    everyone  will think  i am crazy  for  saying this but….i got  a gut feeling that Big Mac will be next manager for the cards. why? because him & TLR are very close & i feel that Mark was croomed just for the job.  he is  very popular with the players & has done an excellent job as hitting coach + the fans in STL love Big Mac  regardless of the roids. What him & Sammy  did for baseball is priceless they  possibley saved the game. All Mark wanted to do was to be the best he could be & he  didn’t  lie about it either. so think about it Mark McGuire next cards manager!!!!

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    • start_wearing_purple

      14 years ago

      I think you’re crazy. Though not by a lot.

      The most direct answer, bypassing all the obvious issues, is he’s never managed. There are dozens of more qualified candidates.

      Reply
      • alan09

        14 years ago

        doesn’t matter  if you got experience or  not these days  look who the White Sox  hired &  i bet there are a few other  managers that never managed before that got their  first jobs  in majors. expect the unexpected.

        Reply
        • start_wearing_purple

          14 years ago

          And I wouldn’t be alone in saying Ventura sounded like a bad choice to begin with. I still wouldn’t expect McGwire to manage.

          Reply
    • stl_cards16

      14 years ago

      I don’t think Big Mac wants to be out there in public that much.  I think he’s really comfortable as hitting coach and he enjoys the job.  I think he either stays in that position or is back out of the game.

      Reply
      • dans

        14 years ago

        I don’t think he’ll be back because of his young triplets and has said he misses his family. I could see him leaving after this title and going back home to California to raise his kids…but still run his hitting clinic from his home and invite guys out

        Reply
        • baseball52

          14 years ago

          Maybe he’ll head to the A’s. That’s the only other destination I could see for him.

          Reply
    • $6592481

      14 years ago

      you don’t have to lie when you can plead the 5th 😛

      Reply
  31. NYBravosFan10

    14 years ago

    Have a good retirement Tony!!!!

    Reply
  32. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex

    14 years ago

    Oh no! Who will we make fun of now?

    Reply
    • chico65

      14 years ago

      I’m keeping my fingers crossed that Reagins lands somewhere soon

      Reply
    • Blue387

      14 years ago

      We’ll always have the Cubs.

      Reply
  33. Alex 18

    14 years ago

    Wow, that’s a surprise. I thought for sure he’d stay after they won.

    Reply
  34. wrestlingcritic

    14 years ago

    Who is in more of a transition period now, Red Sox or Cardinals?

    Reply
    • alan09

      14 years ago

      Red Sux!!!!

      Reply
    • sports33

      14 years ago

      BLEACHER CREATURE THINKS THE RED SOX ARE NOW THE RED SUX (HAHAHAHA AMIRITE?), SO OBVIOUSLY IT’S THEM GUYS. I MEAN REALLY.

      Reply
    • stl_cards16

      14 years ago

      I would say that depends on if Albert comes back.  If he does you still have a good team with a good mix of young and veteran players with their Ace coming back.  Pretty much the same team that just won the World Series just with a new manager.

      If Albert leaves then I would say it’s more of a transition period.  I think no matter what, both teams have a good shot to make the playoffs again next season.  The Sox problems are greatly exaggerated.  They’re still a good team.

      Reply
      • Jon Stark

        14 years ago

        (As a Jays fan) I have to agree that it seems most people are blowing the Red Sox’s problems out of proportion. Much of the time, it seems like wishful thinking. They are a very good team and will certainly contend (again) next year.

        Reply
    • Adam

      14 years ago

      The Cardinals just won the world series so who really cares.

      Reply
  35. mdouty

    14 years ago

    Joe Maddon?

    Reply
  36. Phillies_Aces35

    14 years ago

    I wish him the best. He had an amazing, Hall of Fame caliber career. Love him or hate him, there’s no denying the success he had and there’s no denying his ability to lead a ball club. His philosophies can be maddening but at the end of the day, he found a way to put his team in the best position to win a ball game.

    Reply
  37. TartanElk

    14 years ago

    In a tribute to Tony La Russa, on opening day, the new manager will execute at least 4 double switches. It will be touching indeed.

    Reply
  38. vtadave

    14 years ago

    Thanks for not walking Gibson with first base open.

    Sincerely,

    Dodgers fans

    Reply
  39. kipwells

    14 years ago

    The Bo Hart era is about to begin

    Reply
    • chico65

      14 years ago

      Part Deux?

      Reply
  40. slider32

    14 years ago

    I hope Tito gets this job he was screwed in Boston.

    Reply
  41. notsureifsrs

    14 years ago

    quick, steal dave duncan!

    Reply
  42. The_BiRDS

    14 years ago

    Is there anyway the Cards can pry Joe Maddon away from the Rays even if he has 1 year left on his contract????

    Reply
    • Phillies_Aces35

      14 years ago

      I think he likes Tampa Bay and trying to win with their situation. Can that change? Absolutely… but that’s just what I’ve observed.

      Reply
      • stl_cards16

        14 years ago

        He may want to stay in Tampa but he grew up a Cardinal fan and managing in St. Louis is/was his dream job.  Of course he has a great situation in Tampa so maybe he would rather stay there.  But, if there’s one team that can pry Maddon away it would be the Cardinals.

        All that said……I’m not interested in joining the compensation for managers/GM’s this year.  I would rather just find someone available.  There are plenty of guys that are or will be great managers to choose from.

        Reply
        • Phillies_Aces35

          14 years ago

          Yeah this is a great market for managers. I think Tito would fit in with this club.

          Or maybe you guys can take Mackanin so we can have Ryne Sandberg be Charlie’s bench coach/successor. (or you could just take Sandberg for yourselfs and stick it to the Cubs).

          Even if they could sway him, would Tampa Bay even let them talk to him? I mean, theoretically, he could just step down and the Rays would get some type of compensation, but I’m really confused on how that would work without being some form of tampering.

          Reply
  43. dans

    14 years ago

    My top 5 choices for next Cards manager:

    1. Joe Maddon (will have to get permission from tampa to talk to him)
    2. Terry Francona
    3. Jim Riggleman
    4. Jose Oquendo
    5. Ryne Sandberg

    Reply
    • Cards_Fanboy

      14 years ago

      6. Ozzie Smith

      Reply
      • dans

        14 years ago

        I don’t know if Ozzie wants to manage. He’d have to be a coach first, in my opinion.

        Reply
      • Chris

        14 years ago

        Ozzie has no managerial experience, it would be dumb to bring him in. This is a competitive team with or without Pujols, and should they bring Pujols back, a VERY GOOD team with repeat potential. I agree that Ozzie needs to come back to the organization, but I’d much rather see him in a base coach/fielding instructor type role.

        As for the rest of this list, I like it with the exception that I would move Sandberg up to at least #3 if not higher. Everything I’ve heard about Sandberg suggests he manages with a great intensity and has been highly respected by his players. Either way, he has to get the nod ahead of Oquendo because he at least has managerial experience… Oquendo is great and well liked in St. Louis, and if this were more of a transitional period, I would agree. But with a team that is set to contend now (and if Pujols re-signs, set to be a playoff powerhouse), I find it hard to justify bringing in a manager with no experience.

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  44. pmc765

    14 years ago

    Alan Trammell, Snakes’ bench coach and former Cubs bench coach, managed the Tigers in 2003 (worst team in AL history), 2004 and 2005. He was fired amid friction with Pudge Rodriguez. Leyland took over in 2006, Verlander and Joel Zumaya were rookie pitchers, and the team overachieved all the way to the WS.

    Trammell is a quiet guy, may have lost the clubhouse on a team that had losing seasons every year from 1993 through 2005. But the Cardinals are the opposite, a winning tradition with veteran leadership. He might fit there and not rock the boat.

    He was also criticized in Detroit for over-reliance on small ball, but in the NL that game strategy is more appropriate.

    If he is hired maybe he and his buddy Gibson can meet in the 2012 NLCS.

    Reply
  45. oblio64

    14 years ago

    Don’t forget a guy licking La Russa’s boots since the Oakland days is Dave McKay, who deserves more credit for bringing steroids into baseball. 

    Reply
  46. jumsy

    14 years ago

    My Top 5 Choices to Replace Tony LaRussa:
    1.  Joe Maddon
    2.  Jose Oquendo
    3.  Mike Matheny
    4.  Bobby Valentine
    5.  Ryne Sandberg

    Reply
  47. wordfest

    14 years ago

    If it hasn’t already been written, I suppose the next time we’ll see him… will be in Cooperstown

    Reply
    • stl_cards16

      14 years ago

      Opening Day 2012.  Getting his World Series ring.  #12 in ’12

      Reply
  48. JacksTigers

    14 years ago

    So is Dave Duncan still under contract?

    Reply
  49. philliesfan136

    14 years ago

    Wow, surprising, but I can’t think of a better way to go out.
    Congrats on a great career, Tony!

    Reply
  50. Ryan Knox

    14 years ago

    This is St. Louis we shouldn’t be a proving ground for a new manager, go some place else for that, Oquendo is a great guy, but if he wants to be a manager, he should be in the minor leagues some place managing a baseball team. We aren’t a team that is in rebuilding mode, we just won a World Championship (our 11th) 72 hours ago. All our key players will be back, and most likely Pujols for that matter as well, With a healthy Wainwright we will be contenders next season, why should we not hire a manager who’s a proven winner as opposed to a guy who has never managed a game in the major leagues. You want to prove yourself in the major leagues as a manager, go manage the Pirates, Astros, Nationals or Royals then come here. This is the best job out there right now for a manager, Oquendo isn’t entitled to it.

    Reply
    • Ryan Knox

      14 years ago

      Obviously Madden’s name will come up often, and rightly so. But Oquendo has interviewed for several managerial jobs, and got none of them. I’d rather go with our AAA manager Chris Maloney, than anybody else in the organization, we aren’t a team in rebuilding mode, so we don’t need somebody coming in here and re-doing the way we do things. I can’t stand the thought of Sandberg being our manager, he’s a cub period, good luck selling that to the fans of St. Louis. If there is any inexperienced manager that at all interest me is Ted Simmons, he’s the greatest Cardinal of the 20th century that wasn’t on a championship team, he’s got unfinished business here in STL, but not enough experience to take over a club that should be competing for a division title next season. We’ll see who’s interviewing for the job, but no way should the St. Louis Cardinals, defending World Champions be somebodies first managerial job.

      Reply
  51. Conebone69

    14 years ago

    Adios to the Don of Steriods

    Enjoy retirement with another DUI, Tony

    Reply
  52. Sean

    14 years ago

    Cubs fans, still the classiest group in baseball

    Reply
  53. num1dodgfan

    14 years ago

    I think La Russa knew the Cards stole game 7 with the bad call. The strike to end the inning turned out a two run inning. You Cards know what I’m talking about,. I think it was the 5th or 6th inning when the ump called a ball and should have been strike three and the third out. Then in the very next inning when TX was at bat, the same pitch in the same area was called a strike.

    Reply
  54. noah perry

    14 years ago

    tony best of luck i just don’t know what the cards are gonna do next

    Reply

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