A dozen teams are in on Athletics lefty Gio Gonzalez, reports Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle. The latest:
- There are indications the Blue Jays and A's might add a third team to the discussions to try to find the right match for Gonzalez, writes Slusser. The A's seek "at least two high-value prospects and a few mid-range prospects."
I’m liking this, then we don’t need to go for Darvish…. OR go for him and have a poor man phillies rotation.
Also what do people think of the Jays going for Halladay if he doesnt sign an extension, when this contract end 2013?
Although I’m not sure how Ricky would take it…
Jays arent going to go for Halladay again lol he’ll likely still be dominant and get a pretty good contract from someone else while the Jays will in the middle of their youth movement. Although id never turn Halladay down , so i wouldn’t be opposed to it.
I was just thinking if the Jays were competing in 2013 why not try for him. But I would feel bad throwing Ricky back down
Morrow could easily be ahead of him by then anyhow. And I don’t think anyone minds sitting next to Halladay.
Morrow will not be ahead of Ricky, sorry Ricky has been getting better and better.
I’m not sure he would want to come back. I think he got pretty tired of the organization (front office) under J.P.
Hopefully he understands its entirely different now that JP is gone.
I’d like for the Sox to become this third team and try to take on Bailey and possibly Breslow as well.
Breslow? Why
Quality reliever for a decent price. The Red Sox need to revamp their bullpen with Bard likely going to the rotation. Jenks, Albers, Wheeler? No thanks.
I’m sure we can drag in one of our usual go-to trading partners. Like maybe the White Sox or Angels.
Lawrie ain’t going anywhere…. neither is JP…. Jeff Mathis will NOT be this team’s starting catcher… plus then they’d have to bring in ANOTHER back-up catcher…. JP has shown great pop for a catcher and handles the rotation VERY well…. he could be a permanent piece even though he was mostly thought of as a stop-gap until D’Arnaud was ready… Drabek could go but I doubt it…. his value is quite low and AA doesn’t traditionally move guys when their value is low… he tends to move FOR guys with a low value and big upside(Escobar, Morrow, Johnson etc)… I REALLY like Gio Gonzalez, but if we’re gonna get him it’s gonna take a solid offering of young talent…… Is AA willing to part with those pieces?? Time will tell….
Lawrie ain’t going anywhere…. neither is JP…. Jeff Mathis will NOT be this team’s starting catcher… plus then they’d have to bring in ANOTHER back-up catcher…. JP has shown great pop for a catcher and handles the rotation VERY well…. he could be a permanent piece even though he was mostly thought of as a stop-gap until D’Arnaud was ready… Drabek could go but I doubt it…. his value is quite low and AA doesn’t traditionally move guys when their value is low… he tends to move FOR guys with a low value and big upside(Escobar, Morrow, Johnson etc)… I REALLY like Gio Gonzalez, but if we’re gonna get him it’s gonna take a solid offering of young talent…… Is AA willing to part with those pieces?? Time will tell….
That was a horrible suggestion by that other guy, theres no way we get rid of Lawrie
As an A’s fan, I’d ask for Lawrie and Anthony Gose…as it addresses A’s needs… and they have a lot of needs.
No way the Jays move Lawrie. It would create a bigger hole than the one they are trying to plug.
As an A’s fan, you can ask (and hope) for anything you like. If you think Lawrie is getting traded for Gonzalez, I’m pretty sure AA would be asking the A’s to throw in something else pretty good. Aint gonna happen. Not to mention BB is said to be looking for high upside low to mid level minors guys in exchange for Gonzalez to be ready to contribute in 2-3 years in their new stadium.
Well, its essentially definite now that the A’s will be trading Gio (and Bailey) this offseason.
Ive been thinking if we think Colby will play well why not trade Gose (or the one behind him with a really long name) he would just be blocked by him anyways.
I’d much rather give up snider or thames along with drabek that move Gose. Colby can always move to left field if and when Gose is ready
The nats need to do whatever it takes to get a gio deal done. How about Gio and Bailey for Storen, Desmond, Norris, Peacock, Solis, Bernadina, Hood, and several lower prospects.
Unrelated; but here’s a proposal for the Jays which Might work, but all would have to fall in place:
Jays Sign Prince Fielder for 5 years with vesting options for 6 and 7; which would negate criticisms about his weight.
To TB:
Adam Lind
Prospect? (if needed)
To TOR:
Joel Peralta
JP Howell
Jays Move JP Arenciba to Part time DH/1B, alternating with Prince.
Jays call up D’Arnaud for full-time starting duty.
Potential Lineup
SS Escobar
LF/CF/RF Thames/Snider
3B/2B Lawrie
RF/3B Bautista
1B/DH Fielder
CF Rasmus
DH/1B/C Arencibia
2B/LF Johnson
C D’Arnaud
Bench
C Mathis
DH/1B/3B (hopefully not 3B) Encarnacion
2B/SS Valbuena
OF/PR Davis
Rotation
SP Romero
SP Morrow
SP Alvarez
SP McGowan
SP Cecil/Drabek/FA Acquisition
Bullpen
RP Janssen
RP Villanueva
RP Howell
RP Peralta
RP Carreno
RP Perez
CP Santos
(with maybe a FA Aquisition as a RP)
Seems to be a contending lineup to me.
Thoughts?
(note to mods: posted this elsewhere, seeking feedback!)
I’d definitely give up Lowie and Drabrak.
Lowie? Hopefully you don’t mean Lawrie… And D’arnaud is not ready yet meaning Mathis would start… Think please
I hope you don’t mean JPA, Lawrie, and Drabek.
Your crazy jp lawrie and drabrak, I’m all for dumping drabrak and jp lawrie you toss in snider and maybe carlos gomez. But we would need to get a catcher in return cause there is no way mathis bat is good enough to start it would be just an automatic out
Thanks for the terrible trade and awful spelling
Are they at the Single A level? They aren’t too known…..
I know that but he needs to have a lights out 2012 to convince me, I’ve come to really like Ricky
Potential being the key word, while Ricky has already proved it.
ohh, oops, Ive been looking at it wrong then. Appologies
As they should get. Halladay’s the far superior pitcher but:
-Gio’s controlled for FOUR years; pre-extension, Halladay was controlled for one
-Salaries: Halladay was making 15MM/yr at the time, Gio’s in Arb 1 (so he probably won’t break 10MM until 2014)
-Halladay had a full no-trade, drastically decreasing the number of teams the Jays could negotiate with. Gio can be traded to any of the 30 teams in baseball without his consent. The A’s have 100% of the leverage here.
Trades are not only about talent, they’re about leverage and contract situation.
There is no right trade for Lawrie. Not only is he a stud prospect, he’s also Canadian. Fans would vilify the team in a time where the Jays need all the fans they can get.
Of course no one is truly untouchable, but their is no reasonable trade the A’s could make that would make sense for the Jays to involve Lawrie.
Canadien fans who pay the tickets to see a baseball game , who are possibly more inclined to buy his jersey or t-shirt. When they traded a starting pitcher for him, you don’t think the front offic had that in mind?
Those are all fair points. However, Gio is not an ace, so he might not be able to bring back an ace-like haul. But, if there are enough willing teams competing for his rights, then I guess Oakland can ask for what they want.
In addition, you can have Gio pitch for you for 2 years and if he performs at near the same level, get some nice prospects back.
I doubt the Jays would give up both. I hope not, would prefer the deal died.
I agree. D’Arnaud is blocked right now and although it would be nice to keep him around until we’re sure JPA can hit MLB pitching a little better, it also makes sense to trade him now for the right price. Even if JPA doesn’t improve we’ll be ok. Gose’s stock is lower than it could be right now, he seems like the less likely tradebait IMO.
Mastroianni, Marisnick, Gose, all outfield options they can trade if they feel Colby will block them
The only right trade would be for Votto, but I still wouldn’t like that. Lawrie’s under control for more years.
I think they’re in little league
But there is no conceivable trade that would make the jays a contender right away and stay within their budget by trading lawrie, not too mention no one will give up more than one proven star for a prospect.
HAHAHAHA, Lawrie already contributes now and he is only 22 and will be a key part of the future. Please tell me a trade that a GM would do for Lawrie that makes them a better chance of winning right now and into the future. Dumb would be thinking a GM will give up more than one proven star in their prime for lawrie
I never said he was a superstar… but he helps the team right now and will continue to do so in the future.
And my argument is that there is no possible trade right now that involves Lawrie and makes the Jays a better team now and into the future. And not to mentionfit into their budget