The Mets are being aggressive at the Winter Meetings, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post, talking about everyone except David Wright. Among young players, the Mets are talking the most about Jonathon Niese rather than Davis, tweets Sherman. Niese, 25, is under team control through 2015 and could be an alternative for teams that find Oakland's asking price too high for Gio Gonzalez. Here are today's rumors on Niese and other Mets trade candidates, with the newest updates on top:
- Teams have been inquiring about Mike Pelfrey as well, but the Mets were underwhelmed by the offers, tweets Martino.
- The Mets would like a placeholder starter for their big league club in addition to a prospect for Niese, according to Mike Puma of the New York Post and Sherman (Twitter links). Sherman points to Jason Hammel as a possible match, though Troy Renck of the Denver Post (on Twitter) hears the Rockies haven't had discussions with the Mets.
- The Red Sox aren't a match for Niese, says Alex Speier of WEEI.
- The Padres aren't interested in Niese, a source tells Martino (Twitter link).
- Andy Martino hears the Mets would have to get a lot if they were to trade Niese, and aren't close to anything. Two team officials that spoke to Martino don't expect a trade today (Twitter links). Andy McCullough of the Star-Ledger adds, via Twitter, that the asking price for Daniel Murphy is also high.
- The Blue Jays are also talking to the Mets about Niese, tweets Sherman. The Yankees have also called, but Sherman isn't sure how serious they are (Twitter link).
- The Mets are hoping to get multiple pieces in return for Niese, tweets Jon Heyman of MLB Network. They're interested in adding a catcher, an infielder, and prospects.
- The Red Sox have talked to the Mets and have interest in Niese, says Sherman.
- The Padres and Rockies are among the teams interested in Niese, tweets Sherman. The Padres could get in on Niese but have not engaged yet, adds Andy Martino of the New York Daily News.
Luke Adams contributed to this post.
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Yes, the Mets are officially on crack.
not really. The Mets have another two years of being in 5th in the NL East. If you can get a top prospect or two for him then by all means do it.
Would give the Mets some of the best collection of top young arms in the game
R you kidding!
Another? They haven’t been in 5th since 2003, though I know what you mean.
Another? They haven’t been in 5th since 2003, though I know what you mean.
Not even sandy is this stupid, is he?
would be very smart for the Mets to unload Niese and Wright. They’re in full rebuilding mode .
Say wha? Why would the Mets trade Ike Davis? He doesn’t even start arbitration for another year or so!
it would make sense to me if they were selling everybody. but keeping wright while selling players like davis is all kinds of backwards
Agree, as long as they can get full value out of Wright they should unload as soon as possible.
Of course they’re being aggressive–they’re in New York.
Ike Davis?! He is one of the few Mets I would actually want them to keep.
The Rangers like Ike?
I don’t know why. Seems to me he’s no upgrade over the Moreland/Napoli/Young trio. And I’d like to see Texas move Mike Olt to 1B. He could take Moreland’s spot soon and Moreland could be a nice trade chip.
I’d LOVE Davis on Toronto.
I’d like him in Chicago
Chicago needs a lot of things.
Let’s be honest here, we both do.
Can’t argue with that
Somethings wrong here, why trade a 24 year old 1st baseman when you’re rebuilding? They have to know they’re rebuilding right?
They’re contending, actually. The Mets believe that they’re just one or two pieces away from a playoff berth.
This would be an enormous mistake.
Brewers had best be in on Davis. If the Mets are serious about trading him, Brewers need to make an offer.
interesting…but if they’re going to be aggressive, why aren’t they discussing Wright. I do believe selling on Davis right now is smart, despite the fact that he was hurt.
why is it smart? he has the possibility of being a top 5 1st baseman and being paid the league minimum
You better not trade Ike he is the last thing I got!
Seriously? Ike Davis is going to be great why would they trade him?
Because he’s going to be great.
yeah, he might one day be good and then the mets would have to extend him.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is a joke right?
Who would play 1B? Makes no sense.
Duda or Murphy I suppose. But you’re right, it makes no sense. Guess it means they’re serious about keeping Wright though.
The Mets would be so foolish to trade their only real player with potential…
you gotta be kidding me! this has got to be a joke. look ike Davis is young, cheap, and was injured. Do not trade Ike Davis!!! When wright leaves he will be face of the franchise
Ike Davis would be a STUD playing half his games in Arlington Stadium. He’d help balance out a predominantly right-handed hitting lineup, too. Interesting.
Baltimore needs a left handed hitting 1b. Make it happen DD!
Well take Machado then, thanks
You can have Brian Matusz.
Well take Machado then, thanks
This would be an EPIC mistake.
I would trade Ike for gio
No way this is true. Isn’t Ike Davis supposed to be a huge part of their rebuilding efforts?!?!?!
The Mets, after failing to compete in Davis’ absence, feel it to be in the club’s best interest to trade away a big reason why they failed to compete.
That’ll show him and his ankle
These rumors are gonna give me a heart attack one day.
Troll Sherman strikes again.
Troll Sherman strikes again.
Yeah, not to brag or anything but… We all called it. Go MLBTR community!
Yeah, not to brag or anything but… We all called it. Go MLBTR community!
Seems like this may not be true, but just since it got me excited, could the Mets logic be (in the hypothetical universe where this is true) that Lucas Duda is capable of handling 1B, and that Ike is the piece that can get them the most value for the start of a big rebuild?
Ike isn’t going anywhere, relax guys!
Are you kidding me!??!?! The ONE player they should NOT be discussing is Ike Davis!!!!!!!!! This kid is already a star and he’s only 24 years old. What is going on here???? The concept of re-building is to keep young players that can help you win games. Unless we get 3 can’t miss prospects back, then Ike Davis shouldn’t even be dangled on the trade front. Ughhhhh!!!!!!!!!
WRIGHT FOR HANLEY?
WRIGHT FOR HANLEY?
Davis rumors are not true
Davis rumors are not true
I could see this happening if the Mets could get back one of the Rangers’ good young pitchers or two. 1B would open up for Murphy or Duda and 2B could then be manned by Josh Satin and probably Reese Havens around the All-Star break. Losing quite a bit of power, but with the shorter fences at Citi, maybe Murphy could be a 20 HR guy.
You can have Scheppers.
I could see this happening if the Mets could get back one of the Rangers’ good young pitchers or two. 1B would open up for Murphy or Duda and 2B could then be manned by Josh Satin and probably Reese Havens around the All-Star break. Losing quite a bit of power, but with the shorter fences at Citi, maybe Murphy could be a 20 HR guy.
Seems like every Sherman “rumor” gets shot down 15 minutes later
I don’t know why anybody would believe a rumor like this lol. I’m sure they’ve had discussions about Ike, but definitely nothing serious.
Oy. How can your criticize the idea of trading Ike Davis if you don’t know what they would be getting back? What if they are getting a comparable talent, at a position where the Mets lack depth? Lucas Duda can play 1B. He’s not as good as Ike defensively of course, but he is more of a liability in RF.
A trade has two parts. You need to know both before you can evaluate it.
The Mets are in rebuild mode and Ike is a young, cost controlled and very talented player. Just not the type of player you’d trade when rebuilding. Same goes for Niese and we need him even more with our lack of pitching depth.
No way this is true. Isn’t Jonathan Niese supposed to be a huge part of their rebuilding eff…oh, nvm.
The Mets had better not trade Niese or Davis.
Ike’s a cool dude too! He should stay and so should Neise, he keeps getting better and he has a presence on the hill.
Why are they opposed to trading wright??? They should definitely trade him if they get a decent offer for him. They have a 3b replacement in murphy. Maybe trade wright and prospect or 2 to miami for Hanley. He doesnt want to play 3B, the mets need a SS. Win Win.
As a Mets fan I would NEVER do that trade. Wright is a class act that hustles all the time. Ramirez has had issues with almost every manager he has had because of lack of hustle. This trade would be a disaster for the Mets.
I remember making this face :O when Hanley made an error and jogged out to LF to grab the ball against the Mets last season. GKR’s reaction was priceless.
Wright can’t be in the Mets future plans, they will dump him mid year. Alderson will hope to get another top prospect for him like they did with Beltran.
Mets wouldn’t be adding prospects for Hanley lol
Sounds like Sherman is making stuff up. Says Davis being seriously discussed, is quickly rebuffed, then says “Oh wait no it’s Niese now. I just found this out I swear.”
The only way they are trading Ike Davis is if it’s to the Mets for Ike Davis.
Chuck Norris even knows that the only person you trade Ike Davis for is…Ike Davis.
Joel Sherman is a huge troll. As soon as he said this quite a few beat writers shot it down. I don’t even understand why they’re trading Niese. Yeah, on the surface he doesn’t look that great, but his underlying stats show something pretty good there. He’s had an mid-low 3 xFIP the past 2 seasons and his peripherals improved last year. K/9 went up, BB/9 went down, GB rate went up.
Do not let Davis leave! He is the future of this team but Niese I am okay with leaving but would prefer Pelfrey to move
Me too. Big Pelf needs a change in scenery and 200+ innings is somewhat valuable.
Niese to rockies for a young catcher, and a minor league starting pitcher, or the the Padres for one of their young hurlers in the pen.
I thought the Mets already filled their pen yesterday?
Mainly, although I can see them still possibly adding another lefty to join Byrdak, and also if they DFA Carrassco.
What can Sandy get for Mr. Met?
WTF is going on? Why would they be willing to move Ike or Niese but not Wright? That is exactly the opposite of what they should be doing.
Seriously, I have no idea why any of these moves are even being considered.
its called economics, demand for lefty starters are astronomically high mets trying to capitalize get a few other pieces maybe slot in harvey in the rotation.
Wrights value is low and they still have control of him for 2 seasons. With the walls coming in this season they hope his offensive numbers get better and come next offseason they can trade him for a bigger return.
This is very reasonable, and I imagine it is what they are trying to do. That doesn’t mean that they should be shopping Niese or Ike. If they shop anyone, it should be Wright, whether he rebounds or not.
Niece has more value right now than Wright,…..sad but true!
Shouldn’t the Mets be ADDING starting pitching?
Niese isn’t the most durable pitcher, I’m not totally against it. It really depends on who they get.
Larry Bowa said that the Mets should look into picking up Kelly Johnson, a 2B with pop. We could probably get a decent return from an AL team for Murphy… maybe Murphy and Niese for a package of prospects?
Davis and Niese are really the only 2 players I would really love to see stick around because I think they both have great futures. Now these rumors. Maybe Niese if they get something really good in return but do you really have faith in that possibility? It is becoming more and more painful being a Mets fan. IMPEACH WILPON!
Joel Sherman= wrong. Mets are not trading Niese unless they can sell really high and get a lot back.
I think the intriguing part is he is left handed, that’s why I would love the Yankees to go after him. I don’t think he’s a #2, but I could be wrong, don’t really know much about him. Rumor is Mets are looking for catcher (Cervelli) infielder (Laird) and prospects (Phelps?) Any feedback from Mets fans on that? Carear 4.39 ERA, does that sound reasonable?
Yeah that sounds reasonable Niese can easily slide in as your number 3 or 4 but alot of Met fans may feel his potential is a tad bit higher. Cervelli is alright, but i think i’d rather have the two prospects you mentioned.
I meant all 3 for Niese. I read somewhere the Mets were looking for a defensive backup. Maybe not a long term option in Cervelli, but he is definitely a capable backup. Doesn’t have a spot on the Yankees with Martin/Romine/Montero
Wright for Hanley lol
No need to LOL that!!! I’d trade that scrub Wright and his .254 average in a NY minute! Hanley had a bad year but the last 3 years for Wright have been mediocore at best. Including his 29 HR season
The Mets are not considering trading Ike Davis…..he’s not available for Arb yet…..its a marketing scheme so that you can forget the Mets on not re-signing Reyes….They ultimately didn’t want to resign Reyes from the get go……The Niese rumor is true……His value I think is at its peak.
Apparently the Mets are shopping Niese because of his work ethic, attitude, and conditioning.
How often are young left-handed starting pitchers made available, especially those with talent??? Rarely. The Mets are idiots. Unless Niese is apart if a bigger package and traded fora much better player or somehow Sandy gets a blue chip position prospect and a young stud starting pitcher he needs to be fired,tonight. Where in money ball does it say trade your younG left handed starters for propects that you have no clue how their going to turn out. Niese may not be an ace ( yet?) but he has the potential and is currently good enough tone apart of any rotation. Why on earthwould they trade him. He’s under control and has control. The Meta are idiots
Calm down. Keep in mind what teams have gotten for young, cost-controlled starters. Remember when Haren was traded to Arizona and people bashed Oakland, until they realized Oakland got Carlos Gonzalez and Brett Anderson? Take a deep breath.
It the Mets get Romine and Phelps (or someone else) that’d be a pretty decent trade.
Barney, Castillo, McNutt, and a fringe guy?
ew
Too much. Barney and a fringe guy, but not McNutt.
Nice try. You can keep your crap prospects though.
Hanley for Bay
in a heartbeat
This could get interesting… lets see what Sandy can pull off.
Hah, lIke Davis, I see what you did there.
Yea, really bad idea unless the return is HUGE and full of prospects but why wouldn’t they wait till at least Pujols and Prince are off the table?
I see them better off trading Murphy/Turner who should get reasonable returns. I’d love to see Turner as a Brave personally. Just seems appropriate.
I must admit I haven’t seen Niece pitch much, but his career stats look like a league average pitcher. Does he have really good stuff and just hasn’t put it all together yet? I don’t recall him making any impression on me when he’s pitched against the Cubs the last 2-3 years.
He basically just tired in the second half last yr. Had a 3.88 era through the first 19 games. Has a nice curve.
3.88 era IS league average.
(League average era among starters was 3.94).
be wary if the blue jays are interested. they just robbed the sox of a good closer.
shhhh!
I admit that if a deal can be made with the blue jays for one of those awesome catchers they have, I’d be excited. D’arnaud or Arencibia straight up would be awesome Besides these two the Jays have some other prospects. Syndergaard ,Marisnick. McGuire is ready now. AJ Jimenez is another decent catching prospect (jays are loaded with catchers) Nicolino is a good replacement from the left side,so is Daniel Norris. Anthony Gose and Matt Dean are decent position prospects. The jays are loaded
Pretty sure that there is close to no way the Jays move Arencibia, D’arnaud, or Gose in a deal for Niese. Those pieces, if they were going to be moved, could be used to get a pitcher with a much higher ceiling.
Moving Jimenez or Perez would be more reasonable.
Marlins better hope they are future champions because all this spending can get real ugly soon. I know from many experiences that I see Yanks involved in.
I don’t think Loria cares. He’ll take a couple/three seasons with high revenue, then sell the team. It’ll be someone else’s headache when they moved to the back end of those contracts.
Everyones jumping on them trading Ike but reading the article looks to me like they threw his name in but it doesn’t sound like the Mets have any plans dealing him.
It looks like the Mets will be a last place team for years to come.
check their farm system. 4 potential aces ready in a year. obviously not all of them will pan out but that is still ridiculous.
the mets were underwhelmed for offers for mike pelfry?………he’s a pretty underwhelming pitcher! hahahaha!
Trading Ike Davis would be a huge mistake. What does that leave the mets to build around? Justin Turner? Niese is 25 and lefthanded you better get something huge back for him. By huge I mean a C and a starting pitcher. Niese and Bay to Yanks for Montero and Burnett.
Mets = race to the bottom
more disinformation out of the Mets
Mets are only aggressive if it makes us worse
Mets are only aggressive if it makes us worse
Hey, I just wrote about the Yankees, would like them to give it a try. I suggest, Cervelli, Laird, and Phelps? Do you think that’s a fair value? He is a career 4.39 ERA, albeit in the NL East, so I think it’s fair to say he should pitch to about the same potential in the AL East.
They are throwing his name around to other teams not giving him away. Sandy would probaly ask for Romine ,Nunez, Mason Williams, and. Brett Marshall which sounds fair and reasonable to me.
Cervelli has more pop than Thole but Thole has a higher OBP.
Personally, I’m on the fence about giving up Nunez for him. My gut says no, but maybe I’m undervaluing Niese. He just seems average and not worth that much IMO. Laird was going to compete in spring training for a backup job. Maybe Mets would need a starter in there. I would be ok with Cervelli and Nunez, if Phelps was not included, but a lower rated pitcher. But then again, if nunez is traded, I’d rather get JJ from the Braves.
Would the Yankees consider trading Romine though? Last time I heard him in trade talks, the Yanks were saying they wanted to hang onto him.
Ok then no deal. Niese it’s a successful starter who is a former top 100 prospect himself it’s gonna take talent to acquire him.
Cervelli has more pop? Thole has 1 more HR in his career then Cervelli. 6-5. There is NO power for either
Based on SLG for last year