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Mets Listening On Niese, Others In Trade Talks

By Tim Dierkes | December 7, 2011 at 7:41pm CDT

The Mets are being aggressive at the Winter Meetings, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post, talking about everyone except David Wright. Among young players, the Mets are talking the most about Jonathon Niese rather than Davis, tweets Sherman. Niese, 25, is under team control through 2015 and could be an alternative for teams that find Oakland's asking price too high for Gio Gonzalez. Here are today's rumors on Niese and other Mets trade candidates, with the newest updates on top:

  • Teams have been inquiring about Mike Pelfrey as well, but the Mets were underwhelmed by the offers, tweets Martino.
  • The Mets would like a placeholder starter for their big league club in addition to a prospect for Niese, according to Mike Puma of the New York Post and Sherman (Twitter links). Sherman points to Jason Hammel as a possible match, though Troy Renck of the Denver Post (on Twitter) hears the Rockies haven't had discussions with the Mets.
  • The Red Sox aren't a match for Niese, says Alex Speier of WEEI.
  • The Padres aren't interested in Niese, a source tells Martino (Twitter link).
  • Andy Martino hears the Mets would have to get a lot if they were to trade Niese, and aren't close to anything. Two team officials that spoke to Martino don't expect a trade today (Twitter links). Andy McCullough of the Star-Ledger adds, via Twitter, that the asking price for Daniel Murphy is also high.
  • The Blue Jays are also talking to the Mets about Niese, tweets Sherman. The Yankees have also called, but Sherman isn't sure how serious they are (Twitter link).
  • The Mets are hoping to get multiple pieces in return for Niese, tweets Jon Heyman of MLB Network. They're interested in adding a catcher, an infielder, and prospects.
  • The Red Sox have talked to the Mets and have interest in Niese, says Sherman.
  • The Padres and Rockies are among the teams interested in Niese, tweets Sherman.  The Padres could get in on Niese but have not engaged yet, adds Andy Martino of the New York Daily News.

Luke Adams contributed to this post.

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135 Comments

  1. Michael Perri

    14 years ago

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Reply
    • Guest 5797

      14 years ago

      Yes, the Mets are officially on crack.

      Reply
      • oleosmirf 2

        14 years ago

        not really. The Mets have another two years of being in 5th in the NL East. If you can get a top prospect or two for him then by all means do it.

        Would give the Mets some of the best collection of top young arms in the game

        Reply
        • slider32

          14 years ago

          R you kidding!

          Reply
        • CitizenSnips

          14 years ago

          Another? They haven’t been in 5th since 2003, though I know what you mean.

          Reply
        • CitizenSnips

          14 years ago

          Another? They haven’t been in 5th since 2003, though I know what you mean.

          Reply
    • HateTheCoupons

      14 years ago

      Not even sandy is this stupid, is he?

      Reply
    • Bluejaysnation

      14 years ago

      would be very smart for the Mets to unload Niese and Wright. They’re in full rebuilding mode .

      Reply
  2. TDKnies

    14 years ago

    Say wha?  Why would the Mets trade Ike Davis?  He doesn’t even start arbitration for another year or so!

    Reply
    • notsureifsrs

      14 years ago

      it would make sense to me if they were selling everybody. but keeping wright while selling players like davis is all kinds of backwards

      Reply
      • Bluejaysnation

        14 years ago

        Agree, as long as they can get full value out of Wright they should unload as soon as possible.

        Reply
  3. sec3mysofa

    14 years ago

    Of course they’re being aggressive–they’re in New York.

    Reply
  4. Jojostopten.com

    14 years ago

    Ike Davis?!  He is one of the few Mets I would actually want them to keep.

    Reply
  5. MadmanTX 2

    14 years ago

    The Rangers like Ike?

    Reply
    • Rangersfan32 2

      14 years ago

      I don’t know why. Seems to me he’s no upgrade over the Moreland/Napoli/Young trio. And I’d like to see Texas move Mike Olt to 1B. He could take Moreland’s spot soon and Moreland could be a nice trade chip.

      Reply
  6. okbluejays

    14 years ago

    I’d LOVE Davis on Toronto.

    Reply
    • 101andcounting

      14 years ago

      I’d like him in Chicago

      Reply
      • Blue387

        14 years ago

        Chicago needs a lot of things.

        Reply
        • 101andcounting

          14 years ago

          Let’s be honest here, we both do.

          Reply
          • 3rdStrike

            14 years ago

            Can’t argue with that

            Reply
  7. Mark Hildreth

    14 years ago

    Somethings wrong here, why trade a 24 year old 1st baseman when you’re rebuilding? They have to know they’re rebuilding right? 

    Reply
    • 101andcounting

      14 years ago

      They’re contending, actually. The Mets believe that they’re just one or two pieces away from a playoff berth.

      Reply
  8. YaGottaBelieve11

    14 years ago

    This would be an enormous mistake.

    Reply
  9. Sage

    14 years ago

    Brewers had best be in on Davis. If the Mets are serious about trading him, Brewers need to make an offer.

    Reply
  10. mookie_and_doc

    14 years ago

    interesting…but if they’re going to be aggressive, why aren’t they discussing Wright.  I do believe selling on Davis right now is smart, despite the fact that he was hurt. 

    Reply
    • Joe Valenti

      14 years ago

      why is it smart? he has the possibility of being a top 5 1st baseman and being paid the league minimum

      Reply
  11. Crowned_59

    14 years ago

    You better not trade Ike he is the last thing I got!

    Reply
  12. Kyle Haker

    14 years ago

    Seriously?  Ike Davis is going to be great why would they trade him?

    Reply
    • grownice

      14 years ago

       Because he’s going to be great.

      Reply
      • mikefichera

        14 years ago

        yeah, he might one day be good and then the mets would have to extend him.

        Reply
  13. CommonSenseMets

    14 years ago

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Reply
  14. All Day Réy

    14 years ago

    This is a joke right?

    Reply
  15. Sampsonite168 2

    14 years ago

    Who would play 1B? Makes no sense.

    Reply
    • guydavis

      14 years ago

      Duda or Murphy I suppose. But you’re right, it makes no sense. Guess it means they’re serious about keeping Wright though.

      Reply
  16. Andrew Leno

    14 years ago

    The Mets would be so foolish to trade their only real player with potential…

    Reply
  17. supersteve1492

    14 years ago

    you gotta be kidding me! this has got to be a joke. look ike Davis is young, cheap, and was injured. Do not trade Ike Davis!!! When wright leaves he will be face of the franchise

    Reply
  18. GasLampGuru

    14 years ago

    Ike Davis would be a STUD playing half his games in Arlington Stadium.  He’d help balance out a predominantly right-handed hitting lineup, too.  Interesting.

    Reply
  19. Kevin

    14 years ago

    Baltimore needs a left handed hitting 1b. Make it happen DD!

    Reply
    • WonderboyRooney10

      14 years ago

      Well take Machado then, thanks

      Reply
      • OhthePossibilities

        14 years ago

        You can have Brian Matusz.

        Reply
    • WonderboyRooney10

      14 years ago

      Well take Machado then, thanks

      Reply
  20. Diego Garcia

    14 years ago

    This would be an EPIC mistake.

    Reply
  21. arb01

    14 years ago

    I would trade Ike for gio

    Reply
  22. NYBravosFan10

    14 years ago

    No way this is true. Isn’t Ike Davis supposed to be a huge part of their rebuilding efforts?!?!?!

    Reply
  23. Magorphenger

    14 years ago

    The Mets, after failing to compete in Davis’ absence, feel it to be in the club’s best interest to trade away a big reason why they failed to compete.

    That’ll show him and his ankle

    Reply
  24. All Day Réy

    14 years ago

    These rumors are gonna give me a heart attack one day.

    Reply
  25. CommonSenseMets

    14 years ago

    Troll Sherman strikes again. 

    Reply
  26. CommonSenseMets

    14 years ago

    Troll Sherman strikes again. 

    Reply
  27. TDKnies

    14 years ago

    Yeah, not to brag or anything but…  We all called it.  Go MLBTR community!

    Reply
  28. TDKnies

    14 years ago

    Yeah, not to brag or anything but…  We all called it.  Go MLBTR community!

    Reply
  29. BVHjays

    14 years ago

    Seems like this may not be true, but just since it got me excited, could the Mets logic be (in the hypothetical universe where this is true) that Lucas Duda is capable of handling 1B, and that Ike is the piece that can get them the most value for the start of a big rebuild?

    Reply
  30. chemteck29

    14 years ago

    Ike isn’t going anywhere, relax guys!

    Reply
  31. Zach Sklar

    14 years ago

    Are you kidding me!??!?! The ONE player they should NOT be discussing is Ike Davis!!!!!!!!! This kid is already a star and he’s only 24 years old. What is going on here???? The concept of re-building is to keep young players that can help you win games. Unless we get 3 can’t miss prospects back, then Ike Davis shouldn’t even be dangled on the trade front. Ughhhhh!!!!!!!!!

    Reply
  32. Dirty

    14 years ago

    WRIGHT FOR HANLEY?

    Reply
  33. Dirty

    14 years ago

    WRIGHT FOR HANLEY?

    Reply
  34. Jay

    14 years ago

    Davis rumors are not true

    Reply
  35. Jay

    14 years ago

    Davis rumors are not true

    Reply
  36. Jay Steyer

    14 years ago

    I could see this happening if the Mets could get back one of the Rangers’ good young pitchers or two.  1B would open up for Murphy or Duda and 2B could then be manned by Josh Satin and probably Reese Havens around the All-Star break.  Losing quite a bit of power, but with the shorter fences at Citi, maybe Murphy could be a 20 HR guy.

    Reply
    • Rangersfan32 2

      14 years ago

      You can have Scheppers.

      Reply
  37. Jay Steyer

    14 years ago

    I could see this happening if the Mets could get back one of the Rangers’ good young pitchers or two.  1B would open up for Murphy or Duda and 2B could then be manned by Josh Satin and probably Reese Havens around the All-Star break.  Losing quite a bit of power, but with the shorter fences at Citi, maybe Murphy could be a 20 HR guy.

    Reply
  38. alxn

    14 years ago

    Seems like every Sherman “rumor” gets shot down 15 minutes later

    Reply
  39. sheagoodbye

    14 years ago

    I don’t know why anybody would believe a rumor like this lol. I’m sure they’ve had discussions about Ike, but definitely nothing serious.

    Reply
  40. Michael A

    14 years ago

    Oy.  How can your criticize the idea of trading Ike Davis if you don’t know what they would be getting back?  What if they are getting a comparable talent, at a position where the Mets lack depth?  Lucas Duda can play 1B.  He’s not as good as Ike defensively of course, but he is more of a liability in RF.

    A trade has two parts.  You need to know both before you can evaluate it.

    Reply
    • guydavis

      14 years ago

      The Mets are in rebuild mode and Ike is a young, cost controlled and very talented player. Just not the type of player you’d trade when rebuilding. Same goes for Niese and we need him even more with our lack of pitching depth.

      Reply
  41. NYBravosFan10

    14 years ago

    No way this is true. Isn’t Jonathan Niese supposed to be a huge part of their rebuilding eff…oh, nvm.

    Reply
  42. Joe L

    14 years ago

    The Mets had better not trade Niese or Davis. 

    Reply
  43. Fooshnik

    14 years ago

    Ike’s a cool dude too! He should stay and  so should Neise, he keeps getting better and he has a presence on the hill.

    Reply
  44. Freddie Morales

    14 years ago

    Why are they opposed to trading wright??? They should definitely trade him if they get a decent offer for him. They have a 3b replacement in murphy. Maybe trade wright and prospect or 2 to miami for Hanley. He doesnt want to play 3B, the mets need a SS. Win Win.

    Reply
    • Jay Steyer

      14 years ago

      As a Mets fan I would NEVER do that trade.  Wright is a class act that hustles all the time.  Ramirez has had issues with almost every manager he has had because of lack of hustle.  This trade would be a disaster for the Mets. 

      Reply
      • guydavis

        14 years ago

        I remember making this face :O when Hanley made an error and jogged out to LF to grab the ball against the Mets last season. GKR’s reaction was priceless.

        Reply
      • slider32

        14 years ago

        Wright can’t be in the Mets future plans, they will dump him mid year. Alderson will hope to get another top prospect for him like they did with Beltran.

        Reply
    • Joe L

      14 years ago

      Mets wouldn’t be adding prospects for Hanley lol 

      Reply
  45. Sampsonite168 2

    14 years ago

    Sounds like Sherman is making stuff up. Says Davis being seriously discussed, is quickly rebuffed, then says “Oh wait no it’s Niese now. I just found this out I swear.”

    Reply
  46. MetsMagic

    14 years ago

    The only way they are trading Ike Davis is if it’s to the Mets for Ike Davis. 

    Reply
    • AtticusModi

      14 years ago

      Chuck Norris even knows that the only person you trade Ike Davis for is…Ike Davis.

      Reply
  47. ritz

    14 years ago

    Joel Sherman is a huge troll.  As soon as he said this quite a few beat writers shot it down.  I don’t even understand why they’re trading Niese.  Yeah, on the surface he doesn’t look that great, but his underlying stats show something pretty good there.  He’s had an mid-low 3 xFIP the past 2 seasons and his peripherals improved last year.  K/9 went up, BB/9 went down, GB rate went up. 

    Reply
  48. John Ladalia

    14 years ago

    Do not let Davis leave! He is the future of this team but Niese I am okay with leaving but would prefer Pelfrey to move

    Reply
    • Ale

      14 years ago

      Me too. Big Pelf needs a change in scenery and 200+ innings is somewhat valuable.

      Reply
  49. Dececchij1

    14 years ago

    Niese to rockies for a young catcher, and a minor league starting pitcher, or the the Padres for one of their young hurlers in the pen.

    Reply
    • Ale

      14 years ago

      I thought the Mets already filled their pen yesterday? 

      Reply
      • Dececchij1

        14 years ago

        Mainly, although I can see them still possibly adding another lefty to join Byrdak, and also if they DFA Carrassco.

        Reply
  50. Blue387

    14 years ago

    What can Sandy get for Mr. Met?

    Reply
  51. diehardmets

    14 years ago

    WTF is going on? Why would they be willing to move Ike or Niese but not Wright? That is exactly the opposite of what they should be doing.

    Seriously, I have no idea why any of these moves are even being considered. 

    Reply
    • mikefichera

      14 years ago

      its called economics, demand for lefty starters are astronomically high mets trying to capitalize get a few other pieces maybe slot in harvey in the rotation.

      Reply
    • Tko11

      14 years ago

      Wrights value is low and they still have control of him for 2 seasons. With the walls coming in this season they hope his offensive numbers get better and come next offseason they can trade him for a bigger return.

      Reply
      • diehardmets

        14 years ago

        This is very reasonable, and I imagine it is what they are trying to do. That doesn’t mean that they should be shopping Niese or Ike. If they shop anyone, it should be Wright, whether he rebounds or not. 

        Reply
    • chemteck29

      14 years ago

      Niece has more value right now than Wright,…..sad but true!

      Reply
  52. guydavis

    14 years ago

    Shouldn’t the Mets be ADDING starting pitching?

    Reply
  53. MShowerhead

    14 years ago

    Niese isn’t the most durable pitcher, I’m not totally against it.  It really depends on who they get. 

    Larry Bowa said that the Mets should look into picking up Kelly Johnson, a 2B with pop.  We could probably get a decent return from an AL team for Murphy… maybe Murphy and Niese for a package of prospects?

    Reply
  54. cbbruuno

    14 years ago

    Davis and Niese are really the only 2 players I would really love to see stick around because I think they both have great futures. Now these rumors. Maybe Niese if they get something really good in return but do you really have faith in that possibility? It is becoming more and more painful being a Mets fan. IMPEACH WILPON!

    Reply
  55. Joe L

    14 years ago

    Joel Sherman= wrong. Mets are not trading Niese unless they can sell really high and get a lot back. 

    Reply
  56. William Lappe

    14 years ago

    I think the intriguing part is he is left handed, that’s why I would love the Yankees to go after him. I don’t think he’s a #2, but I could be wrong, don’t really know much about him. Rumor is Mets are looking for catcher (Cervelli) infielder (Laird) and prospects (Phelps?) Any feedback from Mets fans on that? Carear 4.39 ERA, does that sound reasonable?

    Reply
    • Dececchij1

      14 years ago

      Yeah that sounds reasonable Niese can easily slide in as your number 3 or 4 but alot of Met fans may feel his potential is a tad bit higher. Cervelli is alright, but i think i’d rather have the two prospects you mentioned.

      Reply
      • William Lappe

        14 years ago

        I meant all 3 for Niese. I read somewhere the Mets were looking for a defensive backup. Maybe not a long term option in Cervelli, but he is definitely a capable backup. Doesn’t have a spot on the Yankees with Martin/Romine/Montero

        Reply
  57. Jose Zepeda

    14 years ago

    Wright for Hanley lol 

    Reply
    • HateTheCoupons

      14 years ago

      No need to LOL that!!! I’d trade that scrub Wright and his .254 average in a NY minute! Hanley had a bad year but the last 3 years for Wright have been mediocore at best. Including his 29 HR season

      Reply
  58. wsj217

    14 years ago

    The Mets are not considering trading Ike Davis…..he’s not available for Arb yet…..its a marketing scheme so that you can forget the Mets on not re-signing Reyes….They ultimately didn’t want to resign Reyes from the get go……The Niese rumor is true……His value I think is at its peak.

    Reply
  59. icedrake523

    14 years ago

    Apparently the Mets are shopping Niese because of his work ethic, attitude, and conditioning.

    Reply
  60. Hellobrooklyn 2

    14 years ago

    How often are young left-handed starting pitchers made available, especially those with talent??? Rarely. The Mets are idiots. Unless Niese is apart if a bigger package and traded fora much better player or somehow Sandy gets a blue chip position prospect and a young stud starting pitcher he needs to be fired,tonight. Where in money ball does it say trade your younG left handed starters for propects that you have no clue how their going to turn out. Niese may not be an ace ( yet?) but he has the potential and is currently good enough tone apart of any rotation. Why on earthwould they trade him. He’s under control and has control. The Meta are idiots

    Reply
    • Joe L

      14 years ago

      Calm down. Keep in mind what teams have gotten for young, cost-controlled starters. Remember when Haren was traded to Arizona and people bashed Oakland, until they realized Oakland got Carlos Gonzalez and Brett Anderson? Take a deep breath. 

      Reply
      • Ale

        14 years ago

        It the Mets get Romine and Phelps (or someone else) that’d be a pretty decent trade.

        Reply
  61. BillB325

    14 years ago

    Barney, Castillo, McNutt, and a fringe guy?

    Reply
    • altosax29b

      14 years ago

      ew

      Reply
    • Bob George

      14 years ago

      Too much. Barney and a fringe guy, but not McNutt.

      Reply
    • diehardmets

      14 years ago

      Nice try. You can keep your crap prospects though. 

      Reply
  62. TheMagicIsBack

    14 years ago

    Hanley for Bay

    Reply
    • andrewmets9

      14 years ago

      in a heartbeat

      Reply
  63. jaydh

    14 years ago

    This could get interesting…   lets see what Sandy can pull off.

    Reply
  64. R.D.

    14 years ago

    Hah, lIke Davis, I see what you did there. 

    Yea, really bad idea unless the return is HUGE and full of prospects but why wouldn’t they wait till at least Pujols and Prince are off the table?

    I see them better off trading Murphy/Turner who should get reasonable returns. I’d love to see Turner as a Brave personally. Just seems appropriate.

    Reply
  65. Bob George

    14 years ago

    I must admit I haven’t seen Niece pitch much, but his career stats look like a league average pitcher. Does he have really good stuff and just hasn’t put it all together yet? I don’t recall him making any impression on me when he’s pitched against the Cubs the last 2-3 years.

    Reply
    • jaydh

      14 years ago

      He basically just tired in the second half last yr. Had a 3.88 era through the first 19 games. Has a nice curve.

      Reply
      • Jessamynn

        14 years ago

        3.88 era IS league average.

        (League average era among starters was 3.94).

        Reply
  66. Patrick

    14 years ago

    be wary if the blue jays are interested. they just robbed the sox of a good closer.

    Reply
    • $5427573

      14 years ago

      shhhh!

      Reply
  67. Hellobrooklyn 2

    14 years ago

    I admit that if a deal can be made with the blue jays for one of those awesome catchers they have, I’d be excited. D’arnaud or Arencibia straight up would be awesome Besides these two the Jays have some other prospects. Syndergaard ,Marisnick. McGuire is ready now. AJ Jimenez is another decent catching prospect (jays are loaded with catchers) Nicolino is a good replacement from the left side,so is Daniel Norris. Anthony Gose and Matt Dean are decent position prospects. The jays are loaded

    Reply
    • Jon Stark

      14 years ago

      Pretty sure that there is close to no way the Jays move Arencibia, D’arnaud, or Gose in a deal for Niese. Those pieces, if they were going to be moved, could be used to get a pitcher with a much higher ceiling.

      Moving Jimenez or Perez would be more reasonable.

      Reply
  68. NYYANKEES

    14 years ago

    Marlins better hope they are future champions because all this spending can get real ugly soon. I know from many experiences that I see Yanks involved in.

    Reply
    • SRT

      14 years ago

      I don’t think Loria cares.  He’ll take a couple/three seasons with high revenue, then sell the team.  It’ll be someone else’s headache when they moved to the back end of those contracts.

      Reply
  69. Bluejaysnation

    14 years ago

    Everyones jumping on them trading Ike but reading the article looks to me like they threw his name in but it doesn’t sound like the Mets have any plans dealing him.

    Reply
  70. slider32

    14 years ago

    It looks like the Mets will be a last place team for years to come.

    Reply
    • andrewmets9

      14 years ago

      check their farm system. 4 potential aces ready in a year. obviously not all of them will pan out but that is still ridiculous.

      Reply
  71. nyr4life

    14 years ago

    the mets were underwhelmed for offers for mike pelfry?………he’s a pretty underwhelming pitcher! hahahaha!

    Reply
  72. ILikeIkeDavis

    14 years ago

    Trading Ike Davis would be a huge mistake.  What does that leave the mets to build around?  Justin Turner?  Niese is 25 and lefthanded you better get something huge back for him.  By huge I mean a C and a starting pitcher.  Niese and Bay to Yanks for Montero and Burnett.

    Reply
  73. chee1rs

    14 years ago

    Mets = race to the bottom

    Reply
  74. chee1rs

    14 years ago

    more disinformation out of the Mets

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