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Rangers Win Bidding For Yu Darvish

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | December 19, 2011 at 10:07pm CDT

If Yu Darvish plays for a Major League team in 2012, he'll be wearing a Rangers uniform. Texas won the rights to the Japanese right-hander via the posting system with a record $51.7MM bid, Yahoo's Jeff Passan reports. MLB has confirmed that the Rangers submitted the highest bid and that it was accepted.

The bid, which exceeds the $51.1MM Boston paid for the rights to speak with Daisuke Matsuzaka five years ago, provides the Rangers with a 30-day negotiating window. If the sides don't agree to a deal within the next 30 days, Darvish will stay in Japan and the Nippon Ham Fighters won't obtain any cash from the Rangers.

Darvish posted a 1.44 ERA with 10.7 K/9 and 1.4 BB/9 in 232 innings this past season and he hasn't posted an ERA above 2.00 since 2007. MLB agents suggested to MLBTR’s Tim Dierkes that it will cost at least $100MM to lock Darvish up, including the posting fee and contract.

If Rangers GM Jon Daniels reaches a deal with Darvish, Texas' rotation will look considerably different in 2012. C.J. Wilson signed with the Angels as a free agent and Neftali Feliz will move to the rotation. Alexi Ogando, Colby Lewis, Derek Holland, Matt Harrison and Scott Feldman provide manager Ron Washington with an abundance of alternatives for the rest of the rotation.

Agent Arn Tellem issued a statement explaining that he was pleased to learn the Rangers were the high bidders, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (on Twitter).

"The Rangers are an extraordinary franchise in an exceptional city with equally exceptional fans," Tellem said. '"Yu is honored to be prized so highly and recognized as a once-in-a-generation pitcher. We look forward to getting negotiations underway."

The Rangers are on the clock and now have until January 18th to reach a deal with Darvish. The Blue Jays, Yankees and Cubs also placed bids on Darvish before last week's deadline. Conversely, the Giants, Athletics, Marlins, Mets, Rays, Angels, Twins, Red Sox and Orioles did not bid, according to recent reports. The Blue Jays had been favored to win the bidding for Darvish ever since the process wrapped up.

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  1. Lastings

    9 years ago

    51.7 million dollars just to negotiate…that’s a lot of Yen.

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    • rangersfan32

      9 years ago

      At least it wasn’t the insanely high bid everyone was reporting. Barely over Dice-K for a pitcher who’s miles ahead of Matsuzaka. And the should be able to sign him to a pretty fair deal (touching 110-120 mill total?). Lets get this done Texas.

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      • Lastings

        9 years ago

        They still bid higher than the Royals 2011 payroll. That’s pretty crazy when you think about it. All just to negotiate, it’s no guarantee he will sign (although I believe Texas will sign him). NPB really cashes in on this bidding process.

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        • stl_cards16

          9 years ago

          The Rangers only pay the posting fee if they sign him. So it’s not really just to negotiate with him.

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          • redsox927

            9 years ago

            Lastings is wrong yes, but so are you…. the 51.7 million is to just negotiate with him. Period. The Sox paid 51 million to negotiate with Dice K and another 50 or 60 to sign him.

            Sure they get it back if he doesn’t sign him, but he’s coming to MLB… The Rangers will be signing him

            and when they do they will have paid 51.7 MM to negotiate and another 70 to get him signed.

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      • BDLugz

        9 years ago

        How is 120 million over 5 years (24m per year) seem pretty fair for a guy who has never thrown a major league pitch?

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        • NOT KIDDING

          9 years ago

          It’s 120 including the posting fee.  120-51 = 69 mil for 5 years.  Still seems high to me, but now we’re talking CJ wilson money and not, like, cliff lee money

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          • Lunchbox45

            9 years ago

            he makes 7 million now, its going to take a raise to get him here

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          • redsox927

            9 years ago

            no matter how you slice it, it’s going to be close to Cliff Lee money… The total cost of the player is the posting fee and the contract. 

            It’s funny that they are willing to offer CJ Wilson 60 over 4 years, but are willing to (i’m assuming here) double that commitment for Yu Darvish, a man who looks great on TV; has 12 pitches; seems to be a great player; has never thrown a MLB pitch;…

            remember Rangers fans, and take this from a sox fan who was grossly disappointed by a Japanese player who will remain nameless..

            The culture is very different in Japan, The baseballs are smaller than MLB baseballs, and most importantly in my opinion…. the Japanese pitchers start once a week not every 5th day…. This is a big difference that def. had a negative affect on the last japanese pitching star that cost this much for the posting fee and was supposed to be the best thing since hello kitty.

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            • Rusty Greer Fan Club

              9 years ago

              I agree with most of what you said, but as far as CJ goes he’s younger than CJ has better stuff than CJ and has a much higher ceiling than CJ, and hopefully won’t suck in the playoffs as much as CJ. So for the CJ comparison I am much happier with Darvish even for the money. You’re right about the risk involved though.

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      • strikethree

        9 years ago

        While I am a fan of Darvish, to say he is “miles ahead” of another pitcher (when Yu hasn’t even thrown a major league pitch) is ridiculous. Everyone loved Dice-K too, but the results never came.

        To put it in perspective, Cliff Lee was worth about 120 million over 5 years. Darvish won’t cost draft picks but 120+ mil (posting fee + 75 mil over 5 years) is still a lot for a prospect. (and yes, he is a prospect since he’s never thrown a major league pitch)

        This posting system needs to be revamped.

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        • Lunchbox45

          9 years ago

          you’re only looking at it from the point of view of the mlb club.. what about the japanese team losing its best player?

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          • JaySchu

            9 years ago

            Do they own him? I mean that in the most literal sense imaginable. The man should be able to sign and play wherever he wishes. His former team is irrelevant. They deserve nothing.

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            • notsureifsrs

              9 years ago

              he is the one that surrendered his ability to “sign and play wherever he wishes”

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            • Lunchbox45

              9 years ago

              in most case athletes do not have employee rights.

              If me or you want to go get another job, we can. We can be fired and not paid etc.. but athletes are different, they have stiff contracts and pretty much ya, when you are under contract your team owns you.

              Its very much a soccer system, where home clubs develop stars and then sell them to bigger clubs as a secondary means of revenue.

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            • gammaraze

              9 years ago

              Yes, actually they do own his services for the 2012 season.  Oh, and if he tries to retire prematurely, he CAN’T play in the MLB.

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          • strikethree

            9 years ago

            They do get that hefty posting fee. I mean, 51 mil might not seem as much to MLB fans but what’s the average salary over there? MANY times lower. (Googled 400k. Compared to 3 mil for MLB)

            That 51 mil buys you a team in Nippon for 10 years and then some…

            And I thought making like 1/10 of the fee guaranteed would be more fair for all parties: This way, you attract more serious offers, you theoretically bring down the overall posting fee, the player has some indirect leverage (if they fail to sign, the MLB team loses out on 1/10 of the fee) and the Nippon team gets a safety net if no signing occurs.  This is just something I thought of off the top of my head. Anyone see any downfalls? I mean, I think it’s better than the current process.

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            • MikhelB

              9 years ago

              What that small salary average tells us is that team owners probably have bigger proffit margins than in MLB, which would make those almost 52 million dollars moot, because more likely than not, they would be able to make that amount in publicity, merchandise and tickets.

              And even when the average is “small”, Darvish earnt 6 million dollars this past season, making him the best paid player in the JPBL.

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            • gammaraze

              9 years ago

              If you’re going to revamp the posting process, you should start by giving the winning team a 30 day exclusive negotiating period, but after that, the 2nd highest team has a semi-exclusive negotiating window that is shared with the first.

              In this case, you are less likely to have a team bid just to block others, while allowing the NPB team the best chance to capitalize on their player’s talent.  Also, the player is likely to get a better contract through the deal.

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          • Wilsonl

            9 years ago

            Well, they do get the money.

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          • DiabloSalmon4Coach

            9 years ago

            It’s the minors it’s like Little Rock losing Mike Trout

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            • Lunchbox45

              9 years ago

              um no, this is their professional league, try again

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          • Commander_Nate

            9 years ago

            NPB payrolls are generally in the $20+ million range and top out around $30 million on occasion. Even a low posting fee is a nice boost for them.

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        • Wilsonl

          9 years ago

          Oops.

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        • MikhelB

          9 years ago

          Cliff Lee is not “worth” 120 millions, that’s what the Phillies paid him because he was “the best” pitcher available.

          So, as to compare what a pitcher gets when there’s nobody else available and two “rich” teams are after him, to what other pitcher received next season when the “rich” team that didn’t get Lee refused to even talk to him, much less pay him ‘Cliff Lee’ money (Wilson reportedly asked the Yankees for 20+ more millions than what he ultimately received).

          And since we can’t compare what two players got in different scenarios, we can’t say that “player A is worth X and player B this is worth X+Y”.

          Yeah, CC was a possibility as a FA but he didn’t want to leave the NYY.

          PSDarvish will cost the Rangers if they can’t sign him before 2012 rolls on, as that is when the new CBA takes efffect, and the top is 2.9 million dollars.

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          • strikethree

            9 years ago

            I meant he was “worth” that much to the market. (I understand he gave a discount to Philly) Yes, I should have said “signed for”. Actually, a case can be made that Cliff Lee is actually “worth” more in value than 120 million.

            I couldn’t decipher the rest of what you were trying to say but I believe you meant “they’re different situations based on the market”. If so, why can’t recent historic transactions be used as comparables? And my point was more that: a) Cliff Lee is one of the best pitchers in MLB and signed for 120 million b) it would take about the same amount of total cash to acquire Darvish. But again, it was for perspective. I would rather take Cliff Lee at 120 mil than Darvish at 120 mil. Yes, the money would be different. But again, the main point was that the biggest question mark is Darvish — whether his skills will translate in the majors and whether 120 mil was too risky a bet for someone with no big league experience.

            You can even use CJ Wilson as an example: he signed for 78 mil over 5 with the Angels. How much would it have taken the Rangers to beat that? Maybe worst case, 90-100 mil over 5? Now, whom would you rather take?

            But in the end, it doesn’t really matter what Cliff Lee or Wilson would have signed for (even though the ball park figures are better comparables than nothing), what matters is that 120 million for a guy who has never pitched in the majors is a bit ridiculous. The comparison with the Lee deal is to describe the magnitude of this transaction.

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            • gammaraze

              9 years ago

              CJ would have stayed in Texas had the Rangers offered him the same contract that the Angels did.  The Rangers never offered an actual deal, but proposed 4 years and something around $50-60M.

              Yu Darvish is not going to get a $120M contract.  Including the posting fee, while realistic, is highly ridiculous, but we can blame the Red Sox, Boras, and Daisuke for that.  Mostly the Red Sox.

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          • strikethree

            9 years ago

            Also, could you enlighten me on what you meant about the new CBA deal and how the Rangers would lose 2.9 mil? Is there a clause on there?

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          • Patrick Beliveau

            9 years ago

            They have 30 days to sign Darvish or he plays in Japan for the next 3 (i think) years until he is a free agent.

            The 2.9 million dollar cap on international spending is only in effect once the new international signing period begins in the summer. it will have absolutely no effect on the negotiations between Yu and the Rangers.

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            • Jared_H

              9 years ago

              The posting system is independent of the international signing cap. Anything the Rangers pay for posting and to Darvish does not count against the cap.

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      • cardswho

        9 years ago

        Miles ahead of Dice-k, huh? I do t know how you can say that when he hasn’t pitch a day in the majors. That’s like saying Bryan LaHair is miles above Rizzo based on what they’ve done in the minors. Japan is pretty much like AAA, if that. Until he pitches in the majors, you can’t compare.

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    • rangersfan32

      9 years ago

      At least it wasn’t the insanely high bid everyone was reporting. Barely over Dice-K for a pitcher who’s miles ahead of Matsuzaka. And the should be able to sign him to a pretty fair deal (touching 110-120 mill total?). Lets get this done Texas.

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    • JaySchu

      9 years ago

      5 years/77M for a known quantity, or ?/100M+ for an unknown. I don’t understand the Rangers

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      • oz10

        9 years ago

        The Rangers have been scouting Darvish for many years. Not offering CJ a big deal and going after Darvish big must have been the plan all along. Hard to argue with a GM that built the Rangers from the ground up to back to back world series. Oh to see the look on CJ’s face right now………

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        • JaySchu

          9 years ago

          All the scouting in the world doesn’t make it any less of a gamble. How many highly touted players end up being AAAA?

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          • oz10

            9 years ago

            True but you are talking about scouting a player that is at a level equivalent to AA or AAA, not high school or college. Think of how much easier it is to evaluate college talent over high school and now you are talking about Darvish being several levels above college. With that said, I am excited as a fan that we finally won something like this but am more afraid of a Dice K type result.

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            • JaySchu

              9 years ago

              Hope he works out for you guys. I wasn’t wishing any ill will or anything, I was just surprised that they would spend so much after refusing to for Wilson. I’m thinking it was maybe a panic move.

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              • oz10

                9 years ago

                I didn’t take it that way. I think it was part of the plan all along though and not a panic move. JD and Nolan are not the types to panic. We didn’t panic last year when we lost Lee and that worked out. I am sure that they had another plan had we not won with Darvish and then a plan if the next plan didn’t work. Sad part is that it would have been fun to see Prince here but we should definitely be out of that now. Pitching is the smart move though, time will tell if this was the right pitcher.

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                • gammaraze

                  9 years ago

                  If this was the plan all along, imagine if CJ HAD taken a much lesser deal to stay in Texas AND the Rangers going after Darvish…

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                  • oz10

                    9 years ago

                    If CJ had accepted their lower bid, I doubt they even go after Darvish. JD and Nolan have very clear and defined plans and contigent plans. I think it was known early on that we would be outbid on where we felt comfortable with CJ. Still not sure on how I feel about Darvish as like everybody else, I only know what I have read. Does he need to be another Nomo to be successful at this price or even better? It is just a cool feeling that the team I root for won a bid like this. It ranks right up there with getting Cliff Lee 2 summers ago.

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                • leowalter

                  9 years ago

                  oz10 : it only worked out for the Rangers to the extent they got back to the WS.Outside of that,they lost the only guy on the staff ,with the possible exception of Holland ,that has a clue to the words ” command of the strike zone ” .Or could go more than 5 IP before they were forced into that BP. In the end,that camE back to cost them a World Series win.

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                  • oz10

                    9 years ago

                    Ummmm? The Rangers had the 7th best ERA for starting pitchers last year. They were also 9th in innings pitched just 70 back of the Phillies. That is an average of 6.1 innings by a starter. Give the Rangers their due, they have built a solid pitching staff and you obviously look at them as the old Rangers from the past.

                    And I can’t tell if you are talking about Lee or Wilson in regards to commanding the strike zone but Wilson is a nibbler and doesn’t adjust well if he is not getting those borderline strikes called. And last year after losing Lee, the Rangers didn’t panic but were patient and waited and were able to strike a deal with Beltre a month and half later and in essence improved all pitching because of his defense.

                    And isn’t the goal to make it to the World Series? So your comment of it only worked out to the extent that they got back to the WS means that they executed a plan and got very close to their goal. Where was Cliff Lee? Fortunately for us our plan B worked better than the Phillies plan A. 

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                    • leowalter

                      9 years ago

                      Disqus generic email template Obviously I was talking about Cliff Lee when I talked about command,and no,obviously I wasn’t looking at them as the ” old ” Rangers as you say. With a better # 1 on the saff,this team ( the Rangers ),and a Major League closer,WOULD have won that WS,no matter what you say. And,for you to infer that it might have been due to Cliff Lee that the Phillies didn’t make it through the NLCS,THAT is laughable.It had a lot more to do with an inability to hit in the clutch that the Phillies have shown time and time again. —–Original Message—–

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            • MikhelB

              9 years ago

              The Japanese League is definitely above AAA, it is in the same category as MLB, even though MLB refuses to accept it… Which is strange since MLB got their behinds kicked around in the World Baseball Classic which Japan won.

              The sole issue with Japanese players, specially pitchers is in their “body of work”, whereas they are allowed to pitch as much as they want to in Japan and are subject to a strict training regime, in MLB teams and coaches pamper pitchers so they can last a bit more, and once Japanese pitchers come to the US their regime is changed and their body resents it.

              Matsuzaka was successful pitching 8 and 9 inning games in Japan with no limit of pitches, which made his body and arm stronger, then comes to MLB and the bosox ask him to throw 6 inning games with at most 100 pitches, and now when he needs that extra effort his body doesn’t respond.

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              • snowmen10

                9 years ago

                WBC means absolutely nothing to which is better. Let’s place them in a 7 games 4 win situation and let’s see who will win the title…

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                • TJC...CFFL

                  9 years ago

                  Ok.

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        • PushDown

          9 years ago

          LOL don’t see any relation between the Rangers signing Yu Darvish and CJ’s happiness at all. He’s back in his hometown, getting paid quite a lot to do what he loves, I would guess he has a happy look.

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          • oz10

            9 years ago

            But he is a respect guy. And this is kinda like hey, you are not worth in 4 years what this guy is worth just to talk to. After being around him for several years here, this did irk him and he will use it as extra fire.

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        • MrPresident

          9 years ago

          CJ wasn’t worth a bag of peanuts much less the contract the delusional Angels signed him for. The Rangers know what CJ brings to the table and an unknown commodity is still better. This coming from a life long Ranger fan.

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          • oz10

            9 years ago

            It is so awesome. Good time to be a Ranger fan!

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      • oz10

        9 years ago

        The Rangers have been scouting Darvish for many years. Not offering CJ a big deal and going after Darvish big must have been the plan all along. Hard to argue with a GM that built the Rangers from the ground up to back to back world series. Oh to see the look on CJ’s face right now………

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      • Nivarsity

        9 years ago

        Well, you are a Mets fan, so I wouldn’t expect you to understand a well-run organization.

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        • JaySchu

          9 years ago

          Low blow man! Low blow…

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    • JaySchu

      9 years ago

      5 years/77M for a known quantity, or ?/100M+ for an unknown. I don’t understand the Rangers

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    • DiabloSalmon4Coach

      9 years ago

      YES I’M GLAD RANGERS WIN THE BID!!!!!!!!!! Now Show Yu the real $$$$$$$$..Now for Jays does this mean that Prince is going to Canada?

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    • Scott

      9 years ago

      now that Rangers won the bidding I can see them trading a starting pitcher already in the rotation Colby Lewis, Matt Harrison, or even Derek Holland to get a real good player (center fielder)(Andrew Mcutchen?). idk who but they could definitely get creative. And this bidding could certainly keep them out of the Prince Fielder running. I  personally feel Fielder would dominate in arlington park. Great bid. gives the Rangers depth and options to build from. 

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      • Daniel Lee

        9 years ago

        the pirates would never trade mccutchen for any of the pitchers you mentioned. the only pitcher on the rangers they would even consider is feliz. mccutchen is already one of the best overall outfielders in the game at age 25. they wouldnt trade him for average to above-average pitchers. not to mention the pirates have young arms in the minors already. should be interesting who wins the west though. angels offense is still pretty horrible even with pujols but their starting pitching is pretty damn good.

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      • gammaraze

        9 years ago

        Creative would look something like this: Colby Lewis, Torrealba, Martin Perez, Mike Olt, David Murphy, and a couple others for Ichiro and King Felix. 

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        • TJC...CFFL

          9 years ago

          I lol’d.

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      • leowalter

        9 years ago

        Scott,that is a very nice dream scenario you put out there involving Andrew McCutchen and the Pirates,but you notice I did use the word ” dream “.It would take Holland AND Profar to get them to give up that guy at this stage of his career !

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  2. Infield Fly

    9 years ago

    Awesome for the Rangers! Congrats!

    Still…talk about totally overdoing the suspense. It’s been more like a carnival sideshow than a baseball transaction!

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    • Redsoxn8tion

      9 years ago

      Yes, congrats to Texas. Glad the Jays didn’t get him. I don’t want any more competition in the AL East.

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      • Adam Hamilton

        9 years ago

        no one GOT him yet.  Just a chance to get him. TX isn’t a west coast team so he probably won’t go.  especially with a child and a divorce going on. 

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        • oz10

          9 years ago

          He is not going to pass the oportunity to make a huge amount of money compared to what he can make in Japan.

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        • Mel Masengale

          9 years ago

          Nothing eases the sting of a divorce like $50 million.

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          • Vivid_Reality

            9 years ago

            That she gets half of.

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            • baschkar

              9 years ago

              She won’t get half unless they don’t file for divorce until after he signs the contract, which is clearly not the case.

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              • Lunchbox45

                9 years ago

                his divorce is in japan, who knows what the laws are there regarding this issue

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              • Jeff Westcott

                9 years ago

                Do you know anything about Japanese divorce law? Or are just assuming that Japanese divorce law is the same as American divorce law.

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            • baschkar

              9 years ago

              She won’t get half unless they don’t file for divorce until after he signs the contract, which is clearly not the case.

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      • Adam Hamilton

        9 years ago

        no one GOT him yet.  Just a chance to get him. TX isn’t a west coast team so he probably won’t go.  especially with a child and a divorce going on. 

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  3. radnom

    9 years ago

    Cue Blue Jays fans freaking out in 3….2…1…..

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    • MB923

      9 years ago

      Those darn Canadians ay?

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      • matt1101

        9 years ago

        Me and my flappy canadian head are disappointed. 

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      • Kyle Green

        9 years ago

        eh?*

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        • MB923

          9 years ago

          lol thanks for the correction

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    • MB923

      9 years ago

      Those darn Canadians ay?

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    • cyberboo

      9 years ago

      The only Toronto fans you will see freaking out are the bandwagon fans that love to spew negative attitudes towards everything.  It appears that the Rangers won the bid and the real Toronto fans say congratulations.  It was sure a roller coaster of emotions all week, but you can’t fault a team for losing, when the winner bids a record amount on an unproven pitcher in mlb. If he succeeds and brings his game to the Rangers, they will have an excellent team.  If he gets hit hard, the Rangers management will be held responsible for another Dice-K situation.  Congrats again Texas and it will be interesting to see what Toronto does now to make the team stronger.

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      • Jamie Sayer

        9 years ago

        Couldn’t have said it better, obviously if AA was in on Latos for so long he is serious about upgrading the pitching. A trade will happen soon.

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      • oz10

        9 years ago

        The only issue is that as big as the Rangers are, I don’t think we can survive a Dice-k implossion.

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      • pennypincher

        9 years ago

        Not many bandwagon fans for the Jays, but boatloads of bandwagon fans for AA.

        Why can’t “Jays fans” be like you, act sensible and stop glorifying AA like the North Koreans do to their dead Dear Leader? 

        Seriously, I’ve seen waaay too many comments about AA and idiots either crying when he stands pat or over-justifying every single damn transaction he does.

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        • Casor_Greener

          9 years ago

          Thank You!!

          And what’s so crazy is that a month ago people were saying he was doing the right thing by building with prospects and not signing big free agents.

          Then they say he was doing the right thing by bidding $100million on a unproven pitcher. It’s obvious they will defend his every move.

          Dude is a good GM, but his cult is getting out of hand. Pretty soonhe’ll haves

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          • notsureifsrs

            9 years ago

            are you really confused by that concept? you build with prospects until you are ready to compete. you hold off prior to that because the production of big free agents would be meaningless and long-term success is impossible without a young core of talent to sign free agents around

            this is not a new idea. you hold off on big free agents until you have the young talent. with a top 3 farm, the jays now have that and are beginning to look at possible big names

            perfectly consistent

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            • Lunchbox45

              9 years ago

              preposterous notion, Alex Anthopolous invented it.

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            • MikhelB

              9 years ago

              Your point would be better understood if you cited at least 5 examples of organizations in the top 3 in terms of farm talent that have signed big free agents to make them competitive for an extended period of time (more than 5 years in a row).

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              • John DiRienzo

                9 years ago

                are you serious? no really. are you?

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            • Casor_Greener

              9 years ago

              HA!!  what’s so funny about all this, is that you and your ever present sidekick Lunchbox45 were the same two people ridiculing me when I said AA should go out and sign Prince Fielder!

              You were both saying “he’s building with prospects, he’s not going to over pay free agents blah blah” yet here you are now saying they are ready to compete and should sign a high priced free agent. Not just any high priced free agent, but rather $100M on someone who hasnt thrown a pitch in MLB.

              Tell me what changed in the last month. It was preposterous to spend $100M on fielder but now it would’ve made sense to spend the same on Yu Darvish

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              • notsureifsrs

                9 years ago

                i’m sure plenty of people can confirm for you that my position on the jays has been that if they’re going to sign a big free agent, they have to sign two of them: a pitcher and a bat. signing fielder alone would be a mistake

                the reason for this is exactly what i said above. if they only sign one, they aren’t contenders. but if they sign two and maybe make another trade, they’re in the hunt

                if they signed darvish and didn’t acquire anybody else, i’d say the same things i said to you about the idea of just signing fielder. but i was expecting them to switch into hyper-aggressive mode if they signed darvish

                so much for that

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    • BooJays33

      9 years ago

      this is like getting slow rolled in a huge pot at the world series of poker.

      its not his fault but this man will hear epic boos when he comes to visit toronto this summer.

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      • Lunchbox45

        9 years ago

        Why would we boo darvish? ? its a sealed bid auction and the team who wrote the biggest number down on the paper won..

        no one is going to boo him

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    • BooJays33

      9 years ago

      this is like getting slow rolled in a huge pot at the world series of poker.

      its not his fault but this man will hear epic boos when he comes to visit toronto this summer.

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    • Karkat

      9 years ago

      Depends on how long AA waits before scooping up Fielder now.

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    • Karkat

      9 years ago

      Depends on how long AA waits before scooping up Fielder now.

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  4. Triple Hawpes Brewed

    9 years ago

    So much for all the rumors about the Jays gettin him…

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    • TJC...CFFL

      9 years ago

      hahahaha yeah!! IN YOUR FACE! IN YOUR FACE! IN YOUR FACE!

      -Peter Griffin

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    • TJC...CFFL

      9 years ago

      hahahaha yeah!! IN YOUR FACE! IN YOUR FACE! IN YOUR FACE!

      -Peter Griffin

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  5. CAD_Monkey

    9 years ago

    Lame

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  6. gammaraze

    9 years ago

    Wow! Jon Daniels sure was holding the cards close to his vest on this one.

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  7. grownice

    9 years ago

    Oh god here come the Blue Jays and Ranger trolls Im outta here.

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  8. renegadeisback

    9 years ago

    How do the Jays not bid higher than what Dice-K was posted for? SMH.

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    • Joe L

      9 years ago

      How do you know they didn’t bid 51.5? 

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  9. Ray R

    9 years ago

    That sound you hear is 1000’s of Jays fans diving into Lake Ontario…

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    • Adam Hamilton

      9 years ago

      they have that many fans?

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      • sports33

        9 years ago

        Yeah…

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      • Minorityfanbasewannabe

        9 years ago

        *Had. Lake ontario is not warm this time of year.

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        • BeenThereDoneIt

          9 years ago

          It’s warmer this time of year than it is in May actually.

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        • BeenThereDoneIt

          9 years ago

          It’s warmer this time of year than it is in May actually.

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    • Adam Hamilton

      9 years ago

      they have that many fans?

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  10. Bryce

    9 years ago

    Rangers out of Gonzalez hunt, his value goes down

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    • Jeff Neely

      9 years ago

      I expect it’s just the opposite.

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    • Jeff Neely

      9 years ago

      I expect it’s just the opposite.

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  11. Dylan Crumley

    9 years ago

    Rangers are obviously very scared of Albert

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    • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

      9 years ago

      Not even close..

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    • John McFadin

      9 years ago

      This doesn’t even make sense.  You’re obviously not a Rangers fan.  The Rangers reports have been saying they have had interest in Darvish for a long time.  Unless the Rangers knew the Angels were getting Pujols six montsh ago (LOL), then you’re wrong.

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  12. Jamie Sayer

    9 years ago

    Well, I guess this means theres more money for Fielder… (?) Ah well, I can dream. Now lets go trade for Garza.

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  13. Mostafa Rashed

    9 years ago

    Its not official…

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    • John McFadin

      9 years ago

      It is official……Unless you don’t consider the MLB announcing it to be official……

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      • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

        9 years ago

        It’s not official until Darvish knocks on my door and tells me himself that the Rangers won the bid!

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        • John McFadin

          9 years ago

          He’s on his way, he just left my house.

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          • CaseyBlakeDeWitt

            9 years ago

            Does he speak Canadian though? I think I may need an interpreter.

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          • Lunchbox45

            9 years ago

            something you want to tell us John?

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  14. kräftig. entschieden

    9 years ago

    Probably means Rangers are out on Prince. The list of suitors dwindles.

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    • MB923

      9 years ago

      They needed Darvish more than Prince.

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  15. nodukes

    9 years ago

    YUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

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  16. Daniel Wesley

    9 years ago

    Interesting… but in the end I like it. More talent spread around the league means more parity and more parity means small market teams have a better shot of competing.

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    • jumpsuitjohnny

      9 years ago

      “More talent spread around the league”? I don’t know if you noticed but the Rangers have been in the world series the last two years and have one of the largest payroles in the league, this is hardly spreading talent.

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      • Daniel Wesley

        9 years ago

        They’re competing against an Angels team that just signed Pujols and Wilson… both teams are going to beat up on each other giving the Mariners and A’s a chance to finish a little higher up in the standings.

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        • tacko

          9 years ago

          That’s not really how baseball works…

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          • bobbygriffin

            9 years ago

            That was exactly the thought I had upon reading his comment…

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          • bobbygriffin

            9 years ago

            That was exactly the thought I had upon reading his comment…

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        • tacko

          9 years ago

          That’s not really how baseball works…

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        • bigpat

          9 years ago

          No, they’re just going to beat the hapless A’s and M’s further into oblivion.  Sorry but it’s kinda true.

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        • YanksFanSince78

          9 years ago

          Ummm…..I think each team can probably count on 25 wins just by beating up on the M’s and A’s.

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      • Daniel Wesley

        9 years ago

        They’re competing against an Angels team that just signed Pujols and Wilson… both teams are going to beat up on each other giving the Mariners and A’s a chance to finish a little higher up in the standings.

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      • nodukes

        9 years ago

        Actually, the Rangers had the 13th highest payroll last year…under $100 million…very middle of the pack.

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      • gammaraze

        9 years ago

        Research, PLEASE!

        2010 Rangers opening day payroll : $55.25M, 27th in MLB
        2011 Rangers opening day payroll : $92.3M, 13th in MLB

        The Rangers made it to the WS with a pathetic payroll the first time around, and very well could have done it again with nearly the same payroll, except for pay raises.

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        • LordD99

          9 years ago

          The price of consistent winning is a rising payroll. 

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        • LordD99

          9 years ago

          The price of consistent winning is a rising payroll. 

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        • YanksFanSince78

          9 years ago

          ”
          very well could have done it again with nearly the same payroll, except for pay raises”.

          those pay raises being Beltre?

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      • YanksFanSince78

        9 years ago

        hahaha…yeah…those poor small market Rangers.

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    • jumpsuitjohnny

      9 years ago

      “More talent spread around the league”? I don’t know if you noticed but the Rangers have been in the world series the last two years and have one of the largest payroles in the league, this is hardly spreading talent.

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  17. joeybw

    9 years ago

    I want to be happy that Darvish will not be in the AL East but now I can see the Jays jumping right into the Fielder chase.

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  18. PattySajak

    9 years ago

    Buzzkillington… No Yu Jays Baseball lmao

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  19. Adam Moreira

    9 years ago

    Not sure about you, but I didn’t see that coming.

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    • FacelessGeneralManager

      9 years ago

      you missed out on an opportunity to replace you with YU. Would have been classic!

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    • FacelessGeneralManager

      9 years ago

      you missed out on an opportunity to replace you with YU. Would have been classic!

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  20. gocubs418

    9 years ago

    Damn…..I thought the Cubbies would win it….NOT.  Good move for the Rangers if they can sign him under 100 mil (w/ posting)

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    • John McFadin

      9 years ago

      I doubt that happens.  Go big or go home, and you’re going to have to go big with Darvish.

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    • Guest

      9 years ago

      There’s a better chance of Hugh Hefner not having an STD than that

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  21. blurnandez

    9 years ago

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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  22. nycub

    9 years ago

    damn grrl

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  23. danman1202

    9 years ago

    Rangers looking a little desperate after losing Wilson.  They’ll be paying more than they would have paid Wilson but for an unproven player…there’s tons of potential, but there’s also the potential he could flame out.  

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    • Adam Moreira

      9 years ago

      He has done well in NPB, however, very well. If Darvish is anywhere near as billed (granted, a BIG if), that will pan out well for the Rangers…again, if he doesn’t turn out to be the next coming of Kei Igawa).

      @c75c5a905e81b5829032467aedc8d27e:disqus – the Rangers don’t really have any room for Fielder—if they sign him, that hurts their plans to keep Josh Hamilton.

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      • danman1202

        9 years ago

        He has…a dropoff is to be expected but he should still produce at a high level.  A level that makes a 100 million dollar investment make sense?  Who knows, it’s a big gamble.

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    • John McFadin

      9 years ago

      Considering the Rangers didn’t even want Wilson back, I really can’t see how you call this a desperation move.  They didn’t lose Wilson, they let him go without even looking back.  Read up on your baseball before making false posts.

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      • danman1202

        9 years ago

        A 51.7 million dollar bid seems rash.

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        • John McFadin

          9 years ago

          That’s the way baseball go.  What team are you a fan of?  Angels?  Paying Pujols 25 million at the age of 42 is rash.  Yankees?  Paying A-ron 30 million at 42 is rash.  Red Sox?  Bidding 51 million on Daisuke is rash.  Nationals?  Paying Werth 126 million is rash.  Cubs?  Zambrano.  Get it?

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          • danman1202

            9 years ago

            Eh, If Jon Heyman is correct (who says it’s going to take 75.5 for six years is what he’ll end up signing for) then that’s 50 million more than what they could have paid for CJ Wilson.  He’s worth that much more?  

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            • John McFadin

              9 years ago

              CJ is 32 and will be declining soon.  The Rangers saw something in him they didn’t like (considering they barely tried to retain him), Jon Daniels is known as one of the best GMs in baseball and he obviously saw something in Darvish.  Are you smarter than Jon Daniels?  Arm-chair GM?

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              • danman1202

                9 years ago

                It’s a lot more for an unproven player.  Time will tell, that’s all.  No, I’m just a fan. , just like you.  Also, even GMs make mistakes, so we’re going to have to see.

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              • danman1202

                9 years ago

                It’s a lot more for an unproven player.  Time will tell, that’s all.  No, I’m just a fan. , just like you.  Also, even GMs make mistakes, so we’re going to have to see.

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            • John McFadin

              9 years ago

              CJ is 32 and will be declining soon.  The Rangers saw something in him they didn’t like (considering they barely tried to retain him), Jon Daniels is known as one of the best GMs in baseball and he obviously saw something in Darvish.  Are you smarter than Jon Daniels?  Arm-chair GM?

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        • John McFadin

          9 years ago

          That’s the way baseball go.  What team are you a fan of?  Angels?  Paying Pujols 25 million at the age of 42 is rash.  Yankees?  Paying A-ron 30 million at 42 is rash.  Red Sox?  Bidding 51 million on Daisuke is rash.  Nationals?  Paying Werth 126 million is rash.  Cubs?  Zambrano.  Get it?

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        • KyleB

          9 years ago

          I like a Yankee fan that tells other team’s fans that their team spent too much.

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  24. Madman2TX

    9 years ago

    Hallelujah! That takes care of the starting pitching…now to go sign Fielder and give a big finger to Wilson and the Angels.

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    • Adam Hamilton

      9 years ago

      they didn’t get Darvish yet.  don’t get too excited.

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      • vtadave

        9 years ago

        So you really don’t think they will sign him? He’s a Ranger.

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      • John McFadin

        9 years ago

        I honestly wouldn’t even reply to him.  I know, I know, I did too.

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  25. Robert Anders

    9 years ago

    now they have an ace and four #3’s in their rotation

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    • Adam Hamilton

      9 years ago

      they don’t have Darvish yet.  just negotiating rights according to this story.

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      • TJC...CFFL

        9 years ago

        STOP SAYING THAT TO EVERY SINGLE PERSON OMG!!!!

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        • tdot32

          9 years ago

          LOL i swear, if he doesn’t sign…

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      • Chris

        9 years ago

        yeah theres no way the rangers will be able to fork up 151 million dollars and be able to extend kinslers contract like they want to do. im sayin 151 mil cause thats what darvish is seeking and the 51 for the rightss to sign him. unless he plans on taking less then 100 mil, i dont see him signing

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    • Adam Hamilton

      9 years ago

      they don’t have Darvish yet.  just negotiating rights according to this story.

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    • Ryan Aguirre

      9 years ago

      Assuming Darvish’ stuff translates otherwise 5 #3’s

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  26. LifelongMets

    9 years ago

    I truly thought the Jays were gonna get Darvish. Surprising that the Rangers got a bid over the Jays.

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  27. P.J. Lowry

    9 years ago

    And like that…. (Puff) the Blue Jays season is over.

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    • Lunchbox45

      9 years ago

      Lol

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    • Cory Sean

      9 years ago

      puff puff pass

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    • BeenThereDoneIt

      9 years ago

      Way to overreact

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  28. BillB325

    9 years ago

    Oh god here comes the Blue Jays and Garza rumors

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    • Jamie Sayer

      9 years ago

      As I’ve seen, I’m the only one who’s posted anything about garza, and it was simply a dream. I doubt they’ll get Garza, but by how far they went with Latos obviously AA wants a pitcher.

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      • BillB325

        9 years ago

        Just assumptions that they will come, nothing bad about the jays its just that AA will drive to give the least amount of top prospects

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    • johnsmith4

      9 years ago

      Ha Ha….Months ago I could see them coming.

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  29. Michael Yu

    9 years ago

    Article needs sourcing.
    #denial

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  30. FacelessGeneralManager

    9 years ago

    WOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW

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  31. Robert Anders

    9 years ago

    that is the code to the yankees secret bank account right??

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  32. Robert Anders

    9 years ago

    that is the code to the yankees secret bank account right??

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  33. Adam Hamilton

    9 years ago

    That’s nice that the Rangers allegedly won the bid, but I seriously doubt if Yu will want to play there.  it’s one of the best hitting ball parks in the majors and Yu won’t pitch nearly as well there than at a park like Seattle or SD.  I think he’ll probably be pitching in Japan again next year.

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    • oz10

      9 years ago

      5 years and 75 million will change his mind. Plus, he is cocky enough to want to win here.

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    • TJC...CFFL

      9 years ago

      The whole ballpark thing is way overrated. The Rangers had one of the top ERA’s in the AL last year and they pitched in the park…I’d rather play for a winning team and prove my excellence than lose with the Padres or Mariners.

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  34. Adam Hamilton

    9 years ago

    That’s nice that the Rangers allegedly won the bid, but I seriously doubt if Yu will want to play there.  it’s one of the best hitting ball parks in the majors and Yu won’t pitch nearly as well there than at a park like Seattle or SD.  I think he’ll probably be pitching in Japan again next year.

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  35. Snoochies8

    9 years ago

    well, as an a’s fan…fml

    although the flip side….ticket sales have just risen for home games against the rangers, assuming they’ll sign him

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    • OaklandFan22

      9 years ago

      haha we done anyway

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      • Snoochies8

        9 years ago

        yeah, angels and rangers home games will heavily attended now though, with the additions of Pujols/Wilson and Darvish to the West

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      • Chris

        9 years ago

        beane threw in the towel when he decided to trade cahill and wanting to trade bailey and gio lol. idk how many times they can rebuild before he keeps a team intact.

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  36. Snoochies8

    9 years ago

    well, as an a’s fan…fml

    although the flip side….ticket sales have just risen for home games against the rangers, assuming they’ll sign him

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  37. Triple Hawpes Brewed

    9 years ago

    $51.7 million just to negotiate with him. What a joke.

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    • yabud

      9 years ago

      Id charge it if theyd pay me.

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    • Jamie Sayer

      9 years ago

      Good thing we don’t have any human rights issues that could use 51.7m or anything.

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      • whatever

        9 years ago

        you’re on the wrong site

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        • Jamie Sayer

          9 years ago

          I’m just saying, I know moneys going to be spent, but 51.7m?

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      • vtadave

        9 years ago

        Right. So baseball players should be paid $50k a year with the rest of the money going to the homeless, medical research, human rights, etc. 

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        • tdot32

          9 years ago

          in a productive world, there would be no baseball.

          but that’s not the world we live in.

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          • bjsguess

            9 years ago

            Productive? Please point us all to a society where people were happy and productive and did not have hobbies or games.

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            • tdot32

              9 years ago

              please outline which part of the yu darvish bidding is supposed to decrease household spending?

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          • bjsguess

            9 years ago

            Productive? Please point us all to a society where people were happy and productive and did not have hobbies or games.

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    • Jamie Sayer

      9 years ago

      Good thing we don’t have any human rights issues that could use 51.7m or anything.

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  38. Triple Hawpes Brewed

    9 years ago

    $51.7 million just to negotiate with him. What a joke.

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  39. Encarnacion's Parrot

    9 years ago

    Congrats to the Rangers.

    It sucks as a Jays fan, but at least now I can get some sleep.

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    • Lunchbox45

      9 years ago

      I’m sort of relieved…

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      • Encarnacion's Parrot

        9 years ago

        So am I. You have any idea how bad my eyes twitch when I don’t sleep for 4 days straight? Thank goodness for another Canadian stereotype: Tim Hortons!

        EDIT: Oh, #endsarcasm.

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      • ice_hawk1002

        9 years ago

        yea, would have been incredibly exciting, but the jays were more than just a darvish away from contention. not a $100mill gamble they were willing to make at this point (or at least not as willing as the rangers). 

        only negative is that now all the brainless jays fans will be clamoring ever harder for fielder, which also isnt going to happen. and we`ll have to endure even more whining over rogers`spending habits. sigh…

        on the bright side the jays still have a good team, good management, and a bright future. i was pretty excited for next years team anyways – losing darvish doesnt change that.

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    • Lunchbox45

      9 years ago

      I’m sort of relieved…

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  40. PaganIdolCow

    9 years ago

    Yu want the truth, Jays fans? Yu can’t handle the truth.

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    • Luis

      9 years ago

      haters always hate

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      • TJC...CFFL

        9 years ago

        This is the the 3rd time you’ve posted this sentance today…smh

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    • whatever

      9 years ago

      best Yu stop now

      but really, best Yu pun i’ve read so far. well done sir

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  41. rainyperez

    9 years ago

    If Rangers sign Darvish and Prince that’s a dangerous team. Can’t even imagine how many runs that offense will score. 

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    • KyleB

      9 years ago

      We have core guys to resign. The Rangers will be out on Fielder, if they were ever really in on him anyway.

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    • KyleB

      9 years ago

      We have core guys to resign. The Rangers will be out on Fielder, if they were ever really in on him anyway.

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  42. nats2012

    9 years ago

    Congrats to the Rangers!!!!

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  43. sourbob

    9 years ago

    I find the people PO’d at Blue Jays management for not getting Darvish kind of hilarious. Do they not realize this was blind bidding and the Jays were known to have put in a huge bid? They probably thought it was huge enough. That’s not lack of effort, that’s just losing a blind bid.

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  44. sourbob

    9 years ago

    I find the people PO’d at Blue Jays management for not getting Darvish kind of hilarious. Do they not realize this was blind bidding and the Jays were known to have put in a huge bid? They probably thought it was huge enough. That’s not lack of effort, that’s just losing a blind bid.

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    • Andrew Ochs

      9 years ago

      They are blue jays fans, they are annoying and the biggest homers on the planet, they are also Canadian which explains a lot.

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  45. cards2WS

    9 years ago

    Really curious to know the fee.

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  46. Ryan Aguirre

    9 years ago

    So if they don’t strike a deal then Darvish can become a free agent next year right?  Then he could come over and get twice the money and choose the team that he signs with…  Is that right?

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    • oz10

      9 years ago

      I believe he would have to play in Japan for 2-3 more years before he is a free agent

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      • Ryan Aguirre

        9 years ago

        oh ok, I must have heard wrong.  Thanks

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      • SpecialEd

        9 years ago

        I don’t know myself, so I’m just saying what I’ve seen others say. I’ve seen people say there could have been teams bidding to win the rights just to not sign him so he could become a free agent after 2012. I’ve seen people say if not signed he could have become a free agent after 2012. no idea myself, just saying what I’ve seen other people say.

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        • Ryan Aguirre

          9 years ago

          See what i heard is that if the Fighters accepted the bid and a deal doesn’t get done then he would become a free agent next season…  Now I need to know for sure…

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      • SpecialEd

        9 years ago

        I don’t know myself, so I’m just saying what I’ve seen others say. I’ve seen people say there could have been teams bidding to win the rights just to not sign him so he could become a free agent after 2012. I’ve seen people say if not signed he could have become a free agent after 2012. no idea myself, just saying what I’ve seen other people say.

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  47. pennypincher

    9 years ago

    Apparently the Rangers have seen all those “Darvish over Wilson” posts flying all over the internet the past few months.  Congratulations to the Rangers, beautifully countering the Angels’ signing of Wilson and Pujols.  I feel real sorry for M’s fans, A’s fans and Astros’ fans.

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    • Snoochies8

      9 years ago

      yeah but at least a’s fans have a reason to go to the colliseum now…

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    • bjsguess

      9 years ago

      A guy that hasn’t thrown a ML pitch, who is going to end up costing $20m+/season is somehow countering the Angels signing the best hitter in baseball to go along with a pitcher that nipped at 6 WAR last season?

      It’s a move the Rangers had to make but I’m not sure the balance sheet is even quite yet.

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      • BeenThereDoneIt

        9 years ago

        nest hitter over the last several years, sure. Best hitter in baseball, not currently in the top 5

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        • Miguel Arias

          9 years ago

          I’ll take Puljos over anyone you think is top 5.

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          • KyleB

            9 years ago

            Really, you’d take a 32 year old Pujols over:
            Bautista (31)
            Cabrera (28)
            Gonzalez (30)
            Kemp (27)
            Braun (28)

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      • pennypincher

        9 years ago

        Well I never really saw it as an act that balanced the power.  I mean, there is already enough arguments over Wilson VS Darvish, with Pujols going to LA, the Rangers can never match that up.  However, considering that Texas is a bit more talented to begin with, in my opinion, plus there aren’t too many big names left for Texas to grab, I’d say grabbing Darvish is a good start on the Rangers side of the AL West arms race.  

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      • KyleB

        9 years ago

        Balance? Even with the Angels signing Pujols and Wilson they still have ground to cover before taking over the Rangers place in the AL West. The Angels are the ones chasing, not the other way around.

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  48. P.J. Lowry

    9 years ago

    I want to know how much the Jays bid before I respond.

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    • oz10

      9 years ago

      Not enough

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    • pennypincher

      9 years ago

      Good luck with that.  You never hear about the runner-ups.

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  49. Jeff Klein

    9 years ago

    I’m glad my team didn’t get him.  Paying over $100 million for a pitcher that you have no idea how he will perform is too much.

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    • nats2012

      9 years ago

      Oh stop it, thats what we all say.

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  50. P.J. Lowry

    9 years ago

    AA has only one option now: PRINCE FIELDER. Make it happen!!!!!

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  51. Jay

    9 years ago

    Congrats to the Rangers on getting the rights to speak to him.This kid is the real deal so great job if they get him signed

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  52. Patrick the Pragmatist

    9 years ago

    Texas signing Fielder would not scare me too much. People who fear that never seem to learn you can’t slug your way to championship.

    But Yu Darvish to the Rangers does scare me, quite a lot.

    And then anything else they add (and even if they don’t add on anymore) after that including Prince is icing on the cake,  a good one for Ranger fans,  but not for fans of other teams.

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    • rainyperez

      9 years ago

      The 2011 Cardinals would like to disagree with your statement, “You can’t slug your way to a championship.” 

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      • cards2WS

        9 years ago

        Did you watch the NLCS?

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      • Patrick the Pragmatist

        9 years ago

        I’m sorry as a long time fan of the Cardinals I missed the fact that they were 8th in the MLB in FIP last year even with a off year from Carpenter, no Wainwright and some early season bullpen issues.

        I also thought that both the Cardinals and the Rangers were in top five in the category for the month of September. 

        I thought pitching had a little bit to do with their success, silly me.

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    • Ryan Aguirre

      9 years ago

      TX would scare me if they signed Prince, 81 games of Super left handed power in a stadium that valet parks pop ups to right to the seats, Darvish on the other hand is changing everything- ball size, days of rest, climate, culture, pressure, and a step up in talent….

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      • bjsguess

        9 years ago

        As an Angels fan I’m not thrilled about this signing. I think Durvish will be good. On the positive though, bringing in Prince would have really been trouble. As long as they are out on Prince I’m fine with them breaking the bank to bring in Durvish.

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      • bjsguess

        9 years ago

        As an Angels fan I’m not thrilled about this signing. I think Durvish will be good. On the positive though, bringing in Prince would have really been trouble. As long as they are out on Prince I’m fine with them breaking the bank to bring in Durvish.

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      • KyleB

        9 years ago

        Surprise! We’re going to get Darvish AND Fielder! jk

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  53. Joe L

    9 years ago

    Glad you’re taking him so literally. Geez.  

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  54. Joe L

    9 years ago

    Glad you’re taking him so literally. Geez.  

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  55. PattySajak

    9 years ago

    AA, you can make it all up to me by gettin garza, gonzalez and Fielder. GETTER DONE… ( I can be audacious right?)

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  56. Dennis

    9 years ago

     So it’ll cost them about $100 million for a guy who’s never thrown a major leagie pitch. Absurd.

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    • Abraham Berrio

      9 years ago

      so he sucks? i’ll remember your name when this guy starts waffling “major league” hitters

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  57. sal

    9 years ago

    oh well. we still have some nice arms. GO BLUE JAYS!!

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  58. Runtime

    9 years ago

    AA… Fielder.

    GET. IT. DONE.

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  59. the_insomniac

    9 years ago

    AL is really pulling away as the league with the most elite teams. Apart from the Marlins, it feels like the NL is sleepwalking through this offseason.

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    • Dylan

      9 years ago

      Yes because if you don’t spend in the offseason and get as many FA as possible, you are not an elite team.

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    • mickblue66

      9 years ago

      Yet still the NL has won the past two WS, 3 of the last 4, and 4 of the past 6. 

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      • bjsguess

        9 years ago

        Yes because we all now the true way to evaluate talent on a league level basis is seeing who wins the WS.

        You have to be living under a rock to think that the NL has been even close to the AL in terms of talent over the past 10 years.

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        • Patrick the Pragmatist

          9 years ago

          Ten years ago does not matter with today or tommorow.

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        • Patrick the Pragmatist

          9 years ago

          Ten years ago does not matter with today or tommorow.

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        • mickblue66

          9 years ago

          Well we are talking about right now aren’t we? The NL has won the past two WS and AS games. So what does 10 years have to do with it. I agree that which league wins the WS doesn’t show which league is elite but for a team to be considered Elite, it has to have won a WS IMO, calling a team elite when it hasn’t won a championship isn’t elite. Boston and NY are elite, and St. Louis and Philly are elite. Those are really the only teams in all of baseball I consider ELITE.

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  60. Jeffrey Luck Lucas

    9 years ago

    Good for the Rangers. They have their own Big Yunit now. So much for fantasizing the mystery team was my Dbacks… LOL

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    • Toufu Vang

      9 years ago

      That’s an awesome nickname. “Big Yunit”. 

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    • TJC...CFFL

      9 years ago

      Im using “The Big Yunit” hahaaha

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      • Lunchbox45

        9 years ago

         no one’s called you that before?

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        • TJC...CFFL

          9 years ago

          Back in the day…back in the day…

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        • TJC...CFFL

          9 years ago

          Back in the day…back in the day…

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  61. Jared Searcy

    9 years ago

    Well for us Blue jay fans, now we got to ask, now what? I don’t see us having a breakthrough season with just Sergio Santos, AA isnt going to do some stupid large deal for Fielder, and we really don’t know how open the trading market is for the remaining quality & team friendly contracted pitchers. Looking kinda dim, hope AA pulls another rabbit out of his hat without killing the farm. 

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    • Lucas Kschischang

      9 years ago

      *BREAKING NEWS* Sergio Santos moved into the rotation, and will be slotted in at all 9 positions; Jays release 24 from MLB roster.

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    • tdot32

      9 years ago

      most of AA’s moves are out of the blue, so you never know.

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    • LA

      9 years ago

      If AA wanted to kill the farm, he would trade for at least 3-5 star players. That’s how deep our system is and Blue Jays fan don’t realize is that AA is following his game plan from the beginning. How do Jay’s fan don’t learn to be more patient after having JP Riccardi not being patient and making big bold moves before it was necessary had too, and that’s what most Jay’s fan want AA to do again. 

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    • LA

      9 years ago

      If AA wanted to kill the farm, he would trade for at least 3-5 star players. That’s how deep our system is and Blue Jays fan don’t realize is that AA is following his game plan from the beginning. How do Jay’s fan don’t learn to be more patient after having JP Riccardi not being patient and making big bold moves before it was necessary had too, and that’s what most Jay’s fan want AA to do again. 

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  62. Justin Jefferies

    9 years ago

    52 million just for the rights to negotiate, then probably a 6 yr/75 million contract – which equates to roughly 21-22 million a yr for a pitcher who has never pitched in the majors leagues!!…that’s roy halladay money people!!…I’m kind of relieved the jays never got him…very expensive.

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  63. Leonard Washington

    9 years ago

    WHOOOOOOOOOOO GOTTTTTTTTTT YUUUUUUUUUUUUUU RANGERS GOT YUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

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  64. Jeffrey Luck Lucas

    9 years ago

    Now the Mariners over-pay for Fielder? I wonder who Billy Beane is going to bend over for Gio…

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  65. Leonard Washington

    9 years ago

    In all seriousness Imo Yu will be an above average pitcher. I guess we will see. It is interesting that Pujols will get some at-bats against him at Texas though……if that goes well the kid might be going places. 

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    • Ryan Aguirre

      9 years ago

      Love the avatar and name…

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  66. AJCBE

    9 years ago

    I have to say I’m appalled at the media for it’s poor performance on this story throughout the past week. Leave the fun guessing games and speculation to bloggers. I’m alright with the Jays missing out though. Wiser investments can be made.

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  67. tdot32

    9 years ago

    whatever. he throws 91 mph anyways.

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    • bleedrockiepurple

      9 years ago

      Yeah because how fast you throw is the only way to be a successful pitcher.

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      • tdot32

        9 years ago

        did i say he was going to blow? i heard a scouting report that said he throws 96, which was in the back of my mind when i though we were going to win the bidding when i converted his fastball to mph and found out that he might just be overexaggerated like daisuke was.

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      • tdot32

        9 years ago

        did i say he was going to blow? i heard a scouting report that said he throws 96, which was in the back of my mind when i though we were going to win the bidding when i converted his fastball to mph and found out that he might just be overexaggerated like daisuke was.

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    • bleedrockiepurple

      9 years ago

      Yeah because how fast you throw is the only way to be a successful pitcher.

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    • Lunchbox45

      9 years ago

      dont be the guy who all of a sudden doesn’t like a guy because your team missed out on him. 
       

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      • PattySajak

        9 years ago

        I HOPE HE BLOWS UP HIS ROTATOR CUFF AND HAS TO GET TJ IN HIS FIRST SEASON! that better?

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        • Lunchbox45

          9 years ago

          whatever helps you sleep at night sweetheart

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        • Lunchbox45

          9 years ago

          whatever helps you sleep at night sweetheart

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        • KyleB

          9 years ago

          You’re a winner and so are the 2 people that liked your comment.

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      • PattySajak

        9 years ago

        I HOPE HE BLOWS UP HIS ROTATOR CUFF AND HAS TO GET TJ IN HIS FIRST SEASON! that better?

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      • tdot32

        9 years ago

        lol i’m obviously dissappointed about not winning, but other than yu, i’ve always been sceptical of japanese players, so i’m not going to throw myself off the CN tower. i’m also tired of this process being stretched out, so i’m ready to move on.

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        • Lunchbox45

          9 years ago

          it was all those damn ‘inside sources’ and bs from twitter and blogs.. I wish this was the first reporting done on it.

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        • Lunchbox45

          9 years ago

          it was all those damn ‘inside sources’ and bs from twitter and blogs.. I wish this was the first reporting done on it.

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      • tdot32

        9 years ago

        lol i’m obviously dissappointed about not winning, but other than yu, i’ve always been sceptical of japanese players, so i’m not going to throw myself off the CN tower. i’m also tired of this process being stretched out, so i’m ready to move on.

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    • cseehausen

      9 years ago

      He throws 93-94mph

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    • cseehausen

      9 years ago

      He throws 93-94mph

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    • Abraham Berrio

      9 years ago

      so does cliff lee.

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    • Abraham Berrio

      9 years ago

      so does cliff lee.

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  68. jays023

    9 years ago

    I’m really disappointed. I really don’t expect the Jays to try anything with Fielder. Especially if he wants an Albert Pujols like contract. Thats just how AA rolls. I don’t necessarily agree with it. He’s going go through the trade route for pitching. We have prospects and extra outfielders, hopefully we can make something happen.

    What i really don’t understand is why the Jays didn’t bid over the Dice-K posting fee. He’s suppose to be better than Matzuzaka. I was very confident in the Jays bid until they were reporting the Jays bid 48 million. Who knows if that was the actually number, but still. If its true that it was below Matzuzaka’s posting fee, that I don’t know how serious these guys were about Darvish.

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  69. Lunchbox45

    9 years ago

    Congrats to the Rangers

    it was a long, weird ride. glad its all over. I’ll be interested to see how things turn out with him.

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    • rangersfan32

      9 years ago

      Still a 30 day ride for us Ranger fans. Hopefully this gets done. A Darvish, Lewis, Holland, Harrison, Feliz rotation would be sick and I’d have no doubts about that rotation being able to compete with LAA

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      • Adam Moreira

        9 years ago

        Neftali Feliz in the ROTATION?!?!?!?! Then who closes?

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        • Lucas Kschischang

          9 years ago

          Joe Nathan

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        • RangersFan4ever

          9 years ago

          Where have you been?

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      • Adam Moreira

        9 years ago

        Neftali Feliz in the ROTATION?!?!?!?! Then who closes?

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      • Lunchbox45

        9 years ago

        with the rangers offense, anythings possible man.

        good time to be a ranger fan for sure

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      • BeenThereDoneIt

        9 years ago

        I wouldn’t exact;y call that a sick rotation. Maybe the sniffles or a cold sore or something.

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    • rangersfan32

      9 years ago

      Still a 30 day ride for us Ranger fans. Hopefully this gets done. A Darvish, Lewis, Holland, Harrison, Feliz rotation would be sick and I’d have no doubts about that rotation being able to compete with LAA

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  70. LordD99

    9 years ago

    He’ll want more than CJ got for the Angels.  My guess is a deal is never reached.

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    • M.Kit

      9 years ago

      I would of been more skeptical on the Blue Jays reaching a deal. Rangers have the money

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      • BeenThereDoneIt

        9 years ago

        That’s just such a false statement, I don’t even know where to begin.

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  71. PattySajak

    9 years ago

    Looks like I got suckered again lmao. EVERY TIME! I should of known before this prolonged stunt that anytime Jays are the favourites they never get the prize, wheres a peace of plywood where I can bash this concept into my forehead?

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  72. Lefty

    9 years ago

    Nolan Ryan and the rest of the Rangers FO have lost their minds if they go thru with a deal.

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    • KyleB

      9 years ago

      Stop being so optimistic

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  73. Lefty

    9 years ago

    Nolan Ryan and the rest of the Rangers FO have lost their minds if they go thru with a deal.

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  74. Adam R

    9 years ago

    Can’t wait to see Pujols crush him

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  75. Adam R

    9 years ago

    Can’t wait to see Pujols crush him

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  76. TJC...CFFL

    9 years ago

    IF he signs:

    (In no order)
    The Big Yunit
    The Dutch Oven
    Neftali
    Harrison
    Ogando

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    • Toufu Vang

      9 years ago

      Dont forget “Kobe Lewis”

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      • TJC...CFFL

        9 years ago

        Im ashamed that i forgot about Lewis:/

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        • Toufu Vang

          9 years ago

          It’s okay man… those pitchers from the NPB have weird names. ;)

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        • Toufu Vang

          9 years ago

          It’s okay man… those pitchers from the NPB have weird names. ;)

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    • rangersfan32

      9 years ago

      I’ll take Lewis over Ogando

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      • TJC...CFFL

        9 years ago

        Maybe send Harrison to the bullpen…you have to give Ogando another chance to start. If he stumbles in the second half of the year again then put him back in the pen but he could be one hell of a starter.

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        • KyleB

          9 years ago

          It’s a tough decision. Matt Harrison had a great season too. I think he could do even better next year.

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          • TJC...CFFL

            9 years ago

            Im just glad I dont have to make those tough decisions lol

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            • KyleB

              9 years ago

              I would give my left nut to be on the staff that makes those decisions lol.

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            • KyleB

              9 years ago

              I would give my left nut to be on the staff that makes those decisions lol.

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          • TJC...CFFL

            9 years ago

            Im just glad I dont have to make those tough decisions lol

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        • cardswho

          9 years ago

          here’s a thought.  keep Neftali in the pen where he’s comfortable.  there isn’t any guarantee that’ll he’ll be able to handle starting and he’s a proven comodity at closer.

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  77. scott brecht

    9 years ago

    Matt Murton has a .349 batting average, 17 home runs and 91 RBIs in Japan.  

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  78. scott brecht

    9 years ago

    Matt Murton has a .349 batting average, 17 home runs and 91 RBIs in Japan.  

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  79. Jorge Yazpik

    9 years ago

    great, they´re out for Prince Fielder, go M´s!!

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  80. oz10

    9 years ago

    I would love to see the look on CJ’s face……………What, they paid more to talk to this guy than they offered me for 4 years?!?!?!

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  81. kurtits

    9 years ago

    Sad as a Jays fan to see him go. One thing we have learned is whatever reporters think the Jays will do, they won’t. Don’t believe the hype, Jays are connected to no one, and everyone~~~~~~ (spooky). But good luck to him, realistically it is just too steep a price to justify, I hope he pitches well except against the Jays.

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  82. BDLugz

    9 years ago

    I’m sure CJ is doing just fine still….

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  83. CommonSenseMets

    9 years ago

    so…Niese to Toronto? anybody? Bueller?

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  84. jumpsuitjohnny

    9 years ago

    blah

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  85. Lucas Kschischang

    9 years ago

    As a diehard (NOT CASUAL) Jays fan, I can’t help but think this COULD be the beginning of the end of baseball in Toronto if AA does not go out and acquire a big name before the season starts.

    Many casual fans were led on by a lot of the rumors and even false reporting, and as a result of the Rangers winning the negotiation rights, the Jays will lose a boatload of casual fans. If our push to contention goes much longer than the expected window (2014), many will look back at this as a tipping point.

    Don’t confuse me with one of those short sighted fans that just begs them to spend money. I’m excited for what the Jays are doing, and I can see the Jays have a plan, are sticking to it, will be contending soon, and for a long time.

    BUT, the Jays had a chance to make a splash, and didn’t, and it could end up costing them on and off the field.

    Congrats to the Rangers though, I (along with real Jays fans) will most definitely be in attendance when Yu visits Toronto.

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    • kurtits

      9 years ago

      If I could copy paste Lunchbox’s reply to posts like this I would but I don’t remember where it is.

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      • Lucas Kschischang

        9 years ago

        Great input!
        :D

        do they pay you?

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        • kurtits

          9 years ago

          I just don’t want to take credit for his work! But basically he states that if we did all our moves that we did in the off season instead of at the trade deadline, the fans would be ecstatic. AA does his best work then, don’t worry we will be a better team than last year.

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          • Lucas Kschischang

            9 years ago

            I’m definitely excited, don’t get me wrong, but this was something where the Jays could reach into the market of casual fans, but instead they missed out. Not their fault, I’m sure they tried their darndest, but it could end up being quite the hit to the fanbase.

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            • Lunchbox45

              9 years ago

              any hit to the fanbase would come running back if they win. its all about winning.
               

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              • Lucas Kschischang

                9 years ago

                Yeah, hence “If our push to contention goes much longer than the expected window (2014), many will look back at this as a tipping point.”

                If we don’t manage to contend anymore, this could be the tipping point.

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            • LA

              9 years ago

              The Blue Jays atleast tried and bid 50 Million. It’s not like the report 2 weeks ago where fans were going crazy against Rogers for being Cheap. 

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    • KyleB

      9 years ago

      I think you’re highly overreacting. The Jays do have a good team, and anything can happen. They would be super scary if they added Fielder.

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      • Lucas Kschischang

        9 years ago

        I don’t think I am, but judging by my twitter feed and my facebook timeline, a large number of my friends are.

         

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      • Lucas Kschischang

        9 years ago

        I don’t think I am, but judging by my twitter feed and my facebook timeline, a large number of my friends are.

         

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    • KyleB

      9 years ago

      I think you’re highly overreacting. The Jays do have a good team, and anything can happen. They would be super scary if they added Fielder.

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  86. Snoochies8

    9 years ago

    so wait…would this technically put Darvish at the top of the prospect list? or at least top 3 or 4

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    • kurtits

      9 years ago

      Ichiro was rated number 9 on the prospect list

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      • asdf asdf

        9 years ago

        DiceK was the #1 prospect. ahead of the likes of kershaw, lincecum, j. upton, longoria, tulo and a whole mess of superstars.

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        • Patrick the Pragmatist

          9 years ago

          Daisuke is Daisuke.

          Yu is Yu.

          If Trevor Cahill went to Japan this year he might be valuable to any team he joins.

          If Justin Verlander went there next year would it be accurate to measure him by what Cahill did or did not do?

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          • KyleB

            9 years ago

            Well put…that was one of the most intelligent posts on this forum.

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        • Patrick the Pragmatist

          9 years ago

          Daisuke is Daisuke.

          Yu is Yu.

          If Trevor Cahill went to Japan this year he might be valuable to any team he joins.

          If Justin Verlander went there next year would it be accurate to measure him by what Cahill did or did not do?

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  87. RepOak

    9 years ago

    Darvish to Texas means Gio to BlueJays. Makes the most sense, Jays are stacked with prospects..

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    • Lucas Kschischang

      9 years ago

       Gio to anyone in the AL East makes no sense.

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    • Lunchbox45

      9 years ago

      please no

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    • LA

      9 years ago

      Garza would look good in a Jays uniform.

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      • BeenThereDoneIt

        9 years ago

        THis I agree with, just not at the cost being speculated

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    • LA

      9 years ago

      Garza would look good in a Jays uniform.

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  88. LordD99

    9 years ago

    Reports indicate it will take a CJ Wilson-size contract to seal the deal.  If so, I really have to question the Rangers’ decision-making process here.  That means it’s going to cost about $129 million to replace Wilson, meanwhile Wilson went to the Rangers’ rival, the Angels, making them stronger.  Rival stronger and Rangers have to spend tons more money. 

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    • TJC...CFFL

      9 years ago

      The Angels spent 331 million on 2 players this offseason…they spent over twice as much money and still arent better than Texas

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      • Halosfan777

        9 years ago

        Oh thanks for clearing that up. I won’t have to watch the season now. Do you happen to have the lottery numbers as well?

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        • TJC...CFFL

          9 years ago

          7 24 12 35 13 21

          Want next weeks too?
          You Angel fans are so sensitive…

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          • Adam R

            9 years ago

            Rangers gonna spend triple digits on a guy that plays every 5 days. They are basically saying he is Roy Halladay.

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            • KyleB

              9 years ago

              Yea, and the Angels just spent double that on a 32 year old future DH.
              The market is what it is.

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          • BeenThereDoneIt

            9 years ago

            I’m going to play those numbers. lol

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      • cardswho

        9 years ago

        The Angels are MUCH better than the Rangers right now.  not sure what you are talking about.  And I’m an un-biased Cubs fan.  The Pujols contract was rediculous, I admit.  No good GM will pay a 32 year old $254 million for 10 years.  That is insane.  However; Pujols will be a great player still for another 3-4 years.  CJ Wilson is a great pitcher with ACE potential.  Yet on their team is only a #4.  Solid. 

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        • Jonathan Coons

          9 years ago

          congrats you have Albert who is human. 1 hitter doesnt make u better then the rangers

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        • KyleB

          9 years ago

          The run differential between the Rangers and Angels was too great to be made up solely by Pujols, sorry. The Angels are counting on bounce back years from Morales and Wells.

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        • TJC...CFFL