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Nationals Notes: Wang, Lannan, Harper

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | March 15, 2012 at 1:14pm CDT

Stephen Strasburg says he'll have to learn when to pitch to hitters and when to overpower them in order to develop further as an MLB pitcher, Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post reports. Here are some more notes on the Nationals…

  • Nationals starter Chien-Ming Wang had to be helped off of the field after straining his left hamstring in today's Spring Training game against the Yankees. If Wang misses time with an injury, the Nationals may need trade candidate John Lannan in their Opening Day rotation after all.
  • ESPN.com's Buster Olney and Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com both reported today that Lannan's trade value isn't very high right now.
  • Bryce Harper explained that he’s definitely hoping to make the Nationals’ Opening Day roster, Kilgore reports. There was some confusion about Harper's expectations earlier in the week, but he still intends to break camp with the big league team.
  • MLB.com's Anthony Castrovince explains why it might make sense for the Nationals to play Harper in center field. "As far as I'm concerned, anybody that can throw and run like he can should have experience at all the outfield positions," manager Davey Johnson said. Harper, who played center field in last night’s exhibition game, could provide the Nationals with stability at a position they’ve had trouble solidifying.
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  1. MB923

    13 years ago

    So first Wang gets hurt on the bases as a Yankee, and then he gets hurt on a different base against the Yankees?

    Next time he’ll fall at 2nd base with whatever team he plays for, but the opponent will be the Nationals.

    Reply
    • Redsox33

      13 years ago

      Wang will be traded to a team in dire need of pitching like the bluejays for Snider, and Travis d’Arnaud while Wang’s value is still high

      Reply
      • sourbob

        13 years ago

        While Wang’s value is still high? Let’s see… Nope, it’s not June 2008 anymore.

        Reply
      • Jason_F

        13 years ago

        I hope this is a joke.

        Reply
        • Redsox33

          13 years ago

          Its not im dead serious

          Reply
          • Jason_F

            13 years ago

            Thank you for confirming.  In that case, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

            Reply
            • Redsox33

              13 years ago

              I know what I am talking about. If Wang can regain the form he once had when he was the Ace of the Yankees then he will be a very valuable pitcher and he should be the one the Nats trade and not Lannan because I see some potential upside in Lannan.

              Reply
              • Jason_F

                13 years ago

                Just by virtue of you saying, “IF Wang can regain the form…,” you are all but admitting that he has no trade value at the moment.  Add to that the fact that you proposed that he would fetch the top catching prospect in all of baseball in trade, you can see why people are ridiculing your suggestion.  Oh yeah, did I mention that Wang is owed $4MM this season?  Your grasp on the concept of trade value is non-existent.

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                • Redsox33

                  13 years ago

                  I am pretty sure that Wieters is better then Travis d’Arnaud. Also a more realisitic trade then the one I proposed would be sending Wang to Toronto since they need pitching and Wang has experience pitching in the AL East. for a player to be named later and or Cash Considerations.

                  Reply
                  • Jason_F

                    13 years ago

                    You do realize that Wieters lost his prospect status 2.5 years ago, right?  D’Arnaud has yet to step foot on a major league diamond.  I suggest you hold off on commenting for a while, giving yourself some time to read up on how baseball transactions and trade value relate to each other.

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                    • Redsox33

                      13 years ago

                      I already know how they work can’t you tell that I’m not being serious? Also Larvarnway is a good prospect and yes he is still a prospect and he has very good power. 

                      Reply
                    • Redsox33

                      13 years ago

                      I already know how they work can’t you tell that I’m not being serious? Also Larvarnway is a good prospect and yes he is still a prospect and he has very good power. 

                      Reply
      • abolishtheDH

        13 years ago

        while his value is high?WHAT VALUE?!?he’s not worth any minor leaguer that is considered a prospect.

        Reply
      • BizarroCommenter

        13 years ago

        This comment make total sense to Bizarro.

        Trade injured player while value still high!

        Reply
  2. Redsox33

    13 years ago

    The Yanks should trade Gardner and Sabathia for Harper and Strasburg

    Reply
    • Joe L

      13 years ago

      So why would the Nats do that? 

      Reply
      • Redsox33

        13 years ago

        They get an elite pitcher and then the Yankees get two young guys. The yanks could throw in a guy like A-Rod to unload his massive contract as a throw in. Also Gardner would be more then capable of being the long term solution in Center. Its a win-win for both sides.

        Reply
        • Jason_F

          13 years ago

          This proposed deal of yours could contend for most unlikely trade scenario of the year.

          Reply
        • JacksTigers

          13 years ago

          You can’t be serious. This is by far, the worst non-Nelson proposed trade that I have ever seen on this site.

          Reply
        • comish4lif

          13 years ago

          The Nats HAVE an elite pitcher – Stephen Strasburg. And he will cost a lot less than the $122M due CC.

          Reply
      • MB923

        13 years ago

        They won’t lol.

        Reply
        • Redsox33

          13 years ago

          Its possible

          Reply
          • JacksTigers

            13 years ago

            No. It’s really not.

            Reply
            • Redsox33

              13 years ago

              Well when it happens don’t make me say I told you so. I predicted Yu Darvish would go to the Ranger and Fielder would be a tiger and Pujols and Wilson would go to the angels about a day after each of them signed but still predicted it.

              Reply
              • Jason_F

                13 years ago

                Are you trying to seize the worst commenter title in record time?

                Reply
                • Redsox33

                  13 years ago

                  Nah man im just bored. 

                  Reply
              • Jason_F

                13 years ago

                Are you trying to seize the worst commenter title in record time?

                Reply
    • Kevin Swords

      13 years ago

      No way Rizzo trades Harper OR Strasburg for Gardner AND Sabathia.

      Reply
      • Redsox33

        13 years ago

        They are young UNPROVEN talents who could go either way. Its a risk but I think its one worth taking

        Reply
        • nats2012

          13 years ago

          Whatever your’re on, I need some of it.

          Reply
          • Redsox33

            13 years ago

            You do? Its kinda expensive though.

            Reply
      • MB923

        13 years ago

        CC is a proven ace and Gardner is the best defensive OFer in baseball and one of the fastest runners in baseball. Meanwhile Strasburg is coming off Tommy John and Harper hasn’t stepped foot in the majors.

        I am pretty sure if such a trade was in the rumors, ONE OF Strasburg/Harper would get traded for Gardner and Sabathia.

        With that said, no such trade is going to happen any way lol.

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        • BarrelMan

          13 years ago

          Carlos Gomez is better defensively and faster than Gardner.

          Reply
          • MB923

            13 years ago

            No, and No.

            SB%
            Gardner – 83%
            Gomez – 79%

            UZR/150
            Gardner – 31.0
            Gomez- 16.1

            BABIP (completely fair I’d say to compare these 2 type of players who have basically no power)
            Gardner – .317
            Gomez- .305

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            • BarrelMan

              13 years ago

              Gomez can’t hit, but I think if he played every day he’d have a better UZR. He’s faster in a sprint than Gardner IMO, maybe not as refined a base stealer.

              Reply
              • MB923

                13 years ago

                Well that is indeed why I put UZR /150

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                • BarrelMan

                  13 years ago

                  Fair enough.

                  Reply
            • CC 2

              13 years ago

              Defensive stats show nothing

              Reply
              • MB923

                13 years ago

                We shall see when the Tigers play this year. Young in LF, Miggy at 3B, Prince at 1B. Ouch.

                Reply
        • BarrelMan

          13 years ago

          Carlos Gomez is better defensively and faster than Gardner.

          Reply
    • tiger313

      13 years ago

      What are you smoking?

      Reply
      • Redsox33

        13 years ago

        Nothing why?

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        • WolandJR

          13 years ago

          You seem to be confused as to how teams rebuild. The nats have gone from terrible to ok and will soon be pretty good by focusing on acquiring young, cost controlled talent as the foundation for their team (Werth being the notable exception). That is basically how the model works. What you are proposing is preposterous for a team like the Nats as it trades potential HUGE value for a few years of expensive vets, at least one of which is likely past his prime.

          Reply
    • tiger313

      13 years ago

      What are you smoking?

      Reply
    • Willjhull

      13 years ago

      You better hope they are not drug testing at your job anytime soon.

      Reply
    • 101andcounting

      13 years ago

      You’re my favorite poster on MLBTR. Keep up the good work!

      Reply
      • Redsox33

        13 years ago

        Why thank you  but from now on I am going to be much more serious I only did these posts out of boredom 🙂

        Reply
  3. nats2012

    13 years ago

    See, I told you about trading Lannan, its not worth it.

    Reply
  4. hsantana

    13 years ago

    So why is Wang on the rotation and Lannan is not? 4 years younger, 4 decent seasons in a row. Wang was really good.. 5-6 seasons ago with the Yankees.. I would put Lannan over Wang in the rotation everyday. 

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    • bluelineswinger

      13 years ago

      I would put Ross Detwiler in the rotation over either of them

      Reply
      • Brian McKeever

        13 years ago

        I like Detwiler, and even saw him start a couple of games at Class A, but he still has to prove he can be consistent as a starter in the Majors.

        Reply
        • FacelessGeneralManager

          13 years ago

          U saw him in class a? When? He has started games in majors. Including end of last year. He has been good enough to warrent furter starts. He seems to never get run support tho.

          Reply
    • Brian McKeever

      13 years ago

      Clearly, they are hoping that a healthy Wang will be better and pitch deeper into games than Lannan.  Time will tell if they have guessed right.

      Reply
  5. LUWahooNatFan

    13 years ago

    Strasburg, Gio, Zimm, Jackson, Detwiler

    Stash Lannan in AAA until Strasburg reaches his innings limit or a pitcher gets injured

    Bam, simple.

    Reply
  6. LUWahooNatFan

    13 years ago

    Strasburg, Gio, Zimm, Jackson, Detwiler

    Stash Lannan in AAA until Strasburg reaches his innings limit or a pitcher gets injured

    Bam, simple.

    Reply

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