Baseball’s first Competitive Balance Lottery took place in New York City today. The lottery, which allocates additional draft picks to small-market and low-revenue teams, provides teams with draft choices they can choose to use or trade. The Diamondbacks, Orioles, Indians, Royals, Athletics, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals were eligible to obtain draft picks. The Tigers were also eligible, though only for the group of selections that takes place after the second round. Here are the results, via MLB.com:
Selections Between First & Second Rounds (Round A)
- Royals
- Pirates
- Diamondbacks
- Orioles
- Reds
- Marlins
Selections After Second Round (Round B)
- Padres
- Indians
- Rockies
- Athletics
- Brewers
- Tigers
The Rays and Cardinals did not receive a pick in either of the Competitive Balance Lottery Rounds.
That’s pretty big for those teams ‘contending’ that got 1st rounders. They can use those picks to sweeten the pot in any trade.
AA is on the phone trying to get those extra picks.
The Tigers with Miggy, Verlander, Fielder, V Mart, etc. etc. deserve a pick. Tough to compete with that patchwork roster….excuse me as I throw up in my mouth!!! And the Rays not so much. PATHETIC
i wonder how many team’s salaries in the lottery are lower than the combined salaries of cabrera, vmart, verlander, and prince
those salaries are about 65 a yr if anyone was wondering
Perfectly happy with the results..KC/Bucs up top that draw horrendous and always like to see the orioles get a break :-)
Would have been nice to see the A’s and Padres get a 1S pick however and Tigers left out altogether.
And the Cardinals didn’t get anything, which is nice since, you know, World Series.
yeah.. U R right-O there :-(
I think there should be a revision to that rule.
“If a team wins World Series they should be exempt from the CBL the following season”
That seems beyond fair to the point of obvious. It’s hardly “balancing” the competition if we’re giving a recent World Series winner extra picks :P (Especially one of the three teams since the strike to have won MULTIPLE titles.)
Four. There’s been four teams win more than one World Series since the strike: Marlins (who also got a pick), Cardinals, Yankees and Red Sox.
Whoops, this is why I shouldn’t comment from work. I actually discounted the Red Sox (because in my mind they were “obvious”) xD
I would extend it to the playoffs. I really don’t like this rule because it artificially gives certain teams an advantage because they are lower markets.
There should also be a rule based on payroll, the tigers payroll is 132M, Cards are at 110M. And the reds gave votto 20M. Teams that have that sort of money should not be given extra picks. The rays are doing just fine, they really shouldn’t be given extra picks.
What exactly constitutes any of these teams as falling under the category of small market or low revenue?? The Tigers are in Detroit. Kind of a big city. The Cardinals don’t appear to be struggling having won their 11th title last year, and St. Louis isn’t exactly Kansas City… Same could be said about Cleveland… I do love the Pirates getting pick #2, they are low revenue and in first place and have the NL MVP! Diamondbacks play in Phoenix and have been buyers… Marlins just spent a boatload of money although they don’t draw anyone lol… Curious? What makes a team qualify for this?? And does it reflect current or past years?
The picks are divided into two groups — six picks at the end of the first round, six more at the end of the second. The first group of picks are given out among teams with the 10 smallest markets or 10 lowest revenues. That includes 13 teams: D-backs, Orioles, Indians, Royals, A’s, Pirates, Padres, Rays, Reds, Rockies, Marlins, Brewers and Cardinals.
Six of those 13 teams will end up with a pick. The other seven teams will enter the lottery for the second group of picks. By rule, teams who receive revenue sharing money and aren’t located among the top 15 markets are also added to that mix. Only one team qualifies this year under those rules — the Tigers. Detroit barely falls outside the top 15 markets, but it does, and the Tigers apparently received a little bit of revenue sharing money last year.
The Tigers will be one of eight teams vying for six picks, so their chances are pretty good. That said, teams’ chances are higher or lower based on their winning percentage last season. So the Tigers’ best shot is if teams like the Royals, Pirates, Padres and Orioles win picks in the first round, pitting Detroit against teams like Milwaukee, St. Louis and Tampa Bay in the second round.
Thank you for explaining this. I don’t think it was explained at all in the original article as to why the Tigers were included.
I am sure the O’s will use it on someone never to be heard of again.
I’m sure ten years down the road I’ll hear his name in my nightmares.
I’d expect the Orioles to trade their pick for a SP who can help them right now but is under team control beyond this season
Does this mean the Pirates fans will finally stop whining about Appel? This is at least three picks before the second round now.
I think 12 added picks is way too much. 6 at most.
Reminder that there will be a lot fewer picks in the first round/supplemental round now because of limitations on free agent pick compensation
This is ludicrous.
I guess this is the tradeoff for limiting the ability to get draft pick compensation for free agents? Except my team can never get one, so…
wow reds attendance went up 10% and we still made the a column
Reds got in for market size.
I’ll just say this…
Tigers!?
I didn’t even notice them. what the heck?!
It’s because they received some revenue sharing money and aren’t one of the top 15 markets, but of course that does not answer the question of why the heck a team with a payroll that exceeded $100,000,000 last year would have received a dime of revenue sharing money.
Because the 80 mill some of these teams get in profit sharing money isn’t good enough. All this will do is cause the same teams to grow these prospects and flip them when their rookie contracts expire and start all over again. Implement a hard cap and base (160 mill-80mill) and you will see more talent spread across the league.
Man, I soooo agree with Cort and his cap ideas. Also, this extra pick stuff is for the birds. So unfair for so many reasons.
Would a team with talented young players that make near the minimum due to service time be required to spend money on unnecessary veterans to avoid penalty for not meeting the minimum pay scale?
There definitely needs to be a requirement that a certain percentage of revenue sharing be used to improve the onfield product.
This is the better idea, and the only one that has the potential of happening.
Maybe a good idea, but it’ll never be agreed to by certain teams (you know who I’m talking about). I think cory’s suggestion is the more plausible of the two, and I don’t see why anyone would be against it.
Yeah I know who, the large markets. Because if there is ever going to be a salary floor, there will be MUCH more revenue sharing.
rays get no pick… marlins and tigers get picks… this is not having the desired effect i feel
Rays were in the lottery, but their ping pong ball didn’t come out
Maybe the rays thought you had to put in a folded piece of paper :D
So the Tigers weren’t eligible, but got one?
They were only eligible for selections after the Second Round (Round B).
The Royals finally won something!! Now let’s see what they can turn it into…
Royals are fine position player wise when but the real question is developing top tier pitching before any one of those position players hit free agency.
How would you figure the Pirates or the Reds and leave out the Cardinals? They are both ahead of us. Just trying to understand this better.
This “competitive balance” lottery is a joke. Teams with 100M payrolls should NOT be in the lottery. The lottery should be reserved for low revenue/low payroll teams alone.
I agree with the low revenue aspect, but owners should not be rewarded for yielding low payroll teams and reaping higher profits.
As a Cardinal fan– The extra pick would have been nice- but when your already rocking a top 5 farm system, it doesn’t really matter, IMO.
Damn the “Competitive Balance Lottery”, I’m a cubs fan and you guys know the history. I’m not looking for sympathy or lottery picks but I do believe the Rays, Padres, Royals, Padres, A’s should get picks. Maybe Brewers, Mariners, and Pirates (they are also on the low end of market and don’t have BIG TV money).
To all of the people complaining about the Tigers getting a pick, need to get a better own. MI is a great owner that has actually lost money in a cpl of years because of our payroll. However, he is older and a billionaire and has probably recovered money in other years but he is willing to spend the money because he wants to bring a WS win to Detroit. Once MI passes on the business don’t be shocked to see the Tigers return to mid level payroll and farm development.
And where do people get a better owner… eBay?
Find a kid in need and have him put in a request to the Make A Wish foundation.
Detroit Metro is the 11th largest in the nation. IT IS NOT a small market by any standards. They have 3X as many people as Milwaukie does. The city is pretty poor, but many of the suburbs are very wealthy. Is no different than many other cities.
And the Tigers have a good fan base. It didn’t say we were the worst, they just barely qualified. But teams like the Orioles and Pirates do too if they’d put together some successful teams.
Are you kidding with this???
So the Pirates basically have 3 first round picks next year. Nice!
I don’t mind a bit of revenue sharing money if it helps teams retain stars, but to give the team extra draft picks just because they don’t put together a good enough team to draw fans is a joke. This cba is making it harder for alot of clubs to grow a farm system, further encouraging free agent spending.
I actually would have like to see a limit on the # of years a free agent can sign for. I really don’t like that teams have to sign players for 10 year to get them to sign.
I’m pretty sure you will never be able to/should never be able to cap someones ability to get job security.
They do it in NBA, and I see it more as keeping teams from giving out these ridiculous contracts because that is what it takes.
“to give the team extra draft picks just because they don’t put together a good enough team to draw fans is a joke”
If that were true you would be right, but teams like the Rays have been consistently putting good teams on the field and not drawing fans. Further, think about what “draw fans” really means. If you’re the Yankees and you want to sell 40,000 tickets to a game, that amounts to 0.4% of the CITY’S population (nevermind the surrounding area). Roughly one in every two hundred people. For a team like, say, Kansas City, to draw that exact same crowd, they need 8.6% of the city to turn out — 17 out of every 200 people. That’s a HUGE difference. Then, imagine that they actually manage to draw the same number of fans — income levels in New York are significantly higher than Missouri, so they wouldn’t be able to charge anything close to the same amount and thus STILL wouldn’t have comparable payrolls. And we haven’t even talked about television deals. Things like market size are big issues.
Now in some cases, relocation might be the right answer. Some markets can’t or simply won’t support a MLB franchise, and to be fair I think the Rays are one of those teams. But to suggest the issue is not creating a good enough product to draw fans is far too simplified.
Not to say that this system doesn’t still leave me scratching my head. A team with a $100MM payroll should NOT be receiving an extra pick. I think they were trying to help low-payroll teams without actually making the criteria payroll because that is open to gamesmanship, so they tied it to revenue and market as a proxy. I haven’t given much thought to a better solution but there are some definite issues with the list this system came up with.
Remove the Tigers and put in the Rays
The Cardinals? Really? Then again the Orioles can’t be that far behind..
The O’s are an $84 to $86 Million dollar team (for ’11 & ’12) while
the Cards are a $109 to $111 million dollar team… Why the Cards
though? They’re over the century mark for payroll, have a HUGE fan base
and never seem to be strapped for anything… The fact that the
cardinals are in this lottery makes no sense to me..
The Cards are 9th out of 32 teams in total payroll in 2012… The
Marlins are 7th on this list… The teams mentioned (above and with the
exception of the Marlins, Cardinals and, thanks to the 2nd round
stipulation Detroit, who’s 5th on this list) all fit as sub par
financial teams but there are a slew of teams that are lower payroll
value teams under the Brewers (who are highest on this list besides
Detroit and St. Louis)..
What about these teams? The Brewers are at $97.6 million while the
following teams don’t appear to have been included on this “Competitive
Balance Lottery” system.. Why is Houston not a team in the lottery?
What about Washington (I know they’re great this year but they are STILL
a small market team)? Seattle? And why not Chicago WS since they have
to split Chicago with the Cubs? It’s not like only one MLB team set up
shop in Chicago.. If there were two teams in Boston (on New England at
least) I’d consider the 2nd team as a small market team too (until they
unseat Boston – if that were to happen)..
This lottery doesn’t make as much sense as I thought it was suppose to..
I am probably missing some data or MLB is being a little too selective
and helping their “Buddy” teams..
Teams under Milwaukee (in total Payroll):
Chicago
White Sox
$ 96,919,500
Los Angeles Dodgers
$ 95,143,575
Minnesota Twins
$ 94,085,000
New York Mets
$ 93,353,983
Chicago Cubs
$ 88,197,033
Atlanta Braves
$ 83,309,942
Seattle Mariners
$ 81,978,100
Washington Nationals
$ 81,336,143
Toronto Blue Jays
$ 75,489,200
Houston Astros
$ 60,651,000
How did the Tigers get into this but the Twins did not???