The Marlins have let opposing teams know they may be in sell mode later this month if they don't turn their season around, ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports (on Twitter). The Marlins will be willing to discuss every player on their roster, including Giancarlo Stanton, Josh Johnson and Omar Infante, if they decide to sell, Olney wrote earlier today.
Joe Frisaro of MLB.com writes that the Marlins would listen to offers for Stanton and others, but points out that a long-term extension for the young slugger is more likely. We shouldn't expect Stanton to go anywhere, but Anibal Sanchez and Randy Choate could be traded, Frisaro writes. The Marlins haven’t made any players untouchable, though some are unlikely to be traded, Juan C. Rodriguez of the Sun Sentinel adds (on Twitter).
Miami has played to a disappointing 43-46 record after generating considerable hype leading up to the 2012 season. They signed Jose Reyes, Heath Bell and Mark Buehrle, added manager Ozzie Guillen, moved to a new stadium, and changed their team name and uniform during the 2011-12 offseason.
Marlins selling all their players? A year earlier than i expected…..
Yeah, usually they win the World Series first.
The Marlins are such a disappointing organization. How about giving it more than 1 year to come together? Geesh. If they trade Stanton then not a single fan should bother buying season tickets because it would be a waste.
I totally agree
I completely agree, but I will be really happy if they send him Texas’ way.
When you sell, it only makes sense to listen on anyone, but I think the most likely scenario is that the guys who end up moving are the guys who are coming up on free agency (after this year, and maybe after next. Guys like Sanchez, JJ, Nolasco, Buck, Oviedo, Mujica, Choate, and Dobbs).
The 2012 Marlins are eerily similar to the 2006 Blue Jays.
The 2006 Jays finished 12 games over .500, 2nd in their division, and had 5 all-stars on the team that year. Not sure how the 2012 Marlins compare to them.
They’re both MLB teams.
Omar returns to atlanta to soldify bench…
Im fairly certain you meant Detroit to plug up the horrible hole that is 2b
We will flip you Uggla,Minor,Delgado,Teheran,and umm the hotdog guy for Verlander. and a new owner ;P
What could atlanta or Detroit offer for infante?
some season tickets for next season when marlins fans do what they have always done and stop goign to games because they are not the flashy new toy in the area…im sorry i know florida is a baseball factory but in terms of professional sports its just not a baseball state, its not even a basketball state, its a football and college sports state
Why would you ever trade Stanton? 23 year old with 40+ HR power. Makes no sense.
It also makes no sense to spend as much money on a closer with declining peripherals who was clearly a product of petco, or to throw 40 million at a soft tossing lefty( love buehrle but not at that money) or 100 million at an injury prone short stop who’s game is predicated on his legs when you already have a franchise short stop. Nothing they did this past winter made sense.
Didn’t trading for Ozzie make sense? It did for those of us in Chicago.
bell struggles this year has no relation to the absense of him pitching in petco he has only let up 3 hrs this year, buehrle wasnt that bad of a signing he is one of the most consistently good pitchers in baseball and reyes hasnt been injured at all this year and i think hanley is playing his best defensive season this year by far
bell has always been an above average pitcher, not worth the money at all let alone coming off of a .5WAR season, The gm clearly looked at saves and that was it when signing him. Also nice job picking one stat Hrs given up, his FIP is almost a full point higher, his WHIP is .6 points higher in half a season he has walked one less person than ALL of last year 20BB so far this year 21BB all of last year. He is one pace to triple the amounts of hits this season(could be a park factor) and here is the fun one, he is only 3 earned runs away from matching his career total,
I never said buehrle was a bad signing in terms of signing him but there is no need to pay him as much as they are, the 6mill this year is amazing but 11, 18 then 19 million he is already at 2500 innings have fun paying mark buehrle 19 million when he is 35 with close to 3000 innings on his arm…
and i said injury prone not injured when talking about reyes, he missed 40 last year(including sitting out the last game so he could win the batting title, 30 the year before, 100 before that, injury prone!
bucs trade taillon marte hanson for stanton
Colletti…
This is the only time you have permission to literally send the entire farm for who you should’ve originally picked, Stanton.
Right your wrong, let’s get him back home.
Technically every play should at least in the discussion but i couldnt imagine the Marlins trading him.
Hey…
Let a kid dream!
Go ahead. Im dreaming about a Reyes trade back to the Mets!
Doc to the Jays here.
Adding Stanton to the outfield would be wonderful. But I know the Dodgers don’t have the prospects to get it done.
What farm?
For real I wouldn’t take all of the dodgers farm system plus ethier for Stanton lol
What’s with the Dodgers posters on here saying they have prospects outside of Zach Lee to get any trade done its like all of sudden they’ve turned into Yankees fans with their lopsided proposals.
Nunez for Stanton straight up.
Ya’ll are crazy, the Sox are gonna trade Buchholz for Stanton. Maybe throw in Punto too
Rangers could top that:
Brandon Snyder for Stanton + cash.
Marlins would never accept that. They would accept Matt Palmer for Stanton, though.
Olt for Stanton and Johnson.
No player is worth selling the farm for. Stanton has a lot of potential, but until he can bat at least in the .290s he shouldn’t net a record return. Before everyone jumps on me, I’m saying he hasn’t proven it yet…I realize how young he is.
this doesnt make any sense i strongly think the FO will not sell off any of the main pieces of the team in the first year of this makeover, they should try to retain virtually the same ppl this year for next year becuz i think this team can win just look at the month in may. Nobody has lived up to their expectations so far and i wanna see what this same team can do next year.
True what the marlins really need is a change in the coaching staff idk if anyone has noticed ever since Eduardo Perez joined the team on June 2011(worst month in marlins history) any one not named stanton has failed offensively but I wouldn’t mind trading infante to either the braves or tigers for some pitching and outfield that leaves space for boni at 2nd and the marlins could go for span or borjos. The angels said they would trade borjos for relief and I’m guessing choate could be an option.
yea i agree 100% with eduardo i thought they should fire him and get micky hatcher but he signed with some other team as a special assistant so there goes that window i really like infante esp. since hes relatively cheap next year at 4m but i could see for next year going after a span type player and move LoMo to 1st because i think he wont last 2 more years in the OF
If we can get a span/borjos/fowler type player boni could move to first Lomo will definitely have to be moved to 1st and maybe if we are lucky and Yelich keeps developing maybe a call up could keep him in left and imagine a team with the speed of Reyes boni Hanley span and yelich it will be a haven for Stanton and Lomo to become real producers
yea the marlins arent that far off from being an NL powerhouse they just need consistency throught the 25-man roster and keep the same rotation unless they can get a true ace and they definitely need a catcher
For catcher I was thinking of a trade for the Yankees’ Austin Romine not the most offensively built catcher but solid defense and he could develop into a great catcher but in reality the marlins have three ace caliber players in JJ Buerhle and Zambrano the problem being is JJ has yet to learn to use his secondary pitches effectively Buerhle has been pretty consistent so no complaint and Zambrano has lost his ace like stuff but still a solid back of the order pitcher my only problem with the rotation is a need for someone more consistent than anibal or nolasco.
nolasco and anibal have the best stuff out of the 5 but they need to learn to pitch smarter and i think trading jj now is best in my opinion but not just for prospects but another starter of his caliber and i want to see a trade for wilin rosario tbh who is decent defensively and has a pretty high ceiling offensively tho i dont think hes available since the rox are rebuilding but marlins could include realmuto is a great spect in his own right
I wouldn’t be in a rush to trade JJ because we have him under contract and from what he’s done we might as well give him a chance to get back in shape and id like to see jt realmuto develop before any movement and it’s hard to trade with a rebuilding team the Yankees would be more open since they still want to hang on to Martin and Gary sanchez is their prized catcher another option could be the blue jays yan Gomez or Perez they have Jp and darnaud and we can probably give them a started in leblanc hand or sanabia and looking back on consistency issues with nolasco and Sanchez it brings me back to the coaching staff randy st Claire is not a good pitching coach and one can see that the only good consistent pitchers lately are the ones just called up who barely know the guy such as cishek Dunn and Leblanc or coaches are a mess we are making the mistake the Rockies mad in keeping coaches due to personal history we need to do what the angels did and fire the guys who obviously aren’t helping we need a guy that helps our young team develop I wouldn’t even mind a call up of our minor league coaching
in st claires defense he has helped big z alot this year according to zambrano himself and he made javy vazquez the best pitcher in the game in the 2nd half last year
But in reality how much could it possibly take to help 10 year plus veterans?
not a whole lot i guess so i do agree marlins have sucky coaches but i dont agree with these ppl blaming this all on ozzie any other manager would have collpased under all this pressure this year
It’s deffenitely not his fault he didn’t know anyone on the team and all the guys in there are half his age he has to get acustumed and all the recent outburst I see nothing wrong with how he’s handled it, it’s not his fault the MLB backs up their top phenom which has done nothing but be nurtured and be overrated by fans
Fish selling off Mike (Giancarlo) Stanton and the rest of his team? Are we sure Charlie O’Finley passed away?
IF he is listening to offers for Stanton, after watching him over his career as a patient hitter, who has massive power to all fields and no stadium can hold him?
Boston? Tell them nobody (prospect wise) is sacred.. Offer them whichever *one* of the ‘big 3″ they want and then give ’em Lavarnway as a catcher, they dearly need and ANOTHER top prospect as well.. Stanton is THAT good, plus 4 more years of control after 2012..
Any one of the big three? Stanton is worth every teams entire big three. The problem is most teams don’t have the prospects to get him and I’m not even a marlins fan
I am a fan of both and THAT is what Lavarnway is for.. Another NEAR top 50 BA prospect who IS MLB ready, and a catcher the Fish dearly need..
You must have missed my point there.. The Sox “big 3” are Barnes, Bradley and Bogaerts.. Lavarnway is a polished and complete player already.. Despite what some say here and would already be at the MLB level if on probably… 20 other teams that didn’t have a catcher already hitting for power and driving in runs at least like Salty..
Lavarnway is doing decent enough behind the plate to catch…
The other top people are not slouches either.. Just because some here that think Boston has no farm system have no clue..
That list would include Cecchini, Jacobs, Brentz, Britton.. Those are top people.. The next level, below the “big 3”, was what I meant.
No. If you want Stanton you MUST give up Barnes, Bradley, Bogaerts and maybe even include Lavarnway. Stanton is a 22 year old OF with unlimited power potential. he would absolutely play pepper with the green monster.
LOL, the big three. Are those different then the big 4 you gave SD for Gonz? Boston does not have the prospects to pull off a deal for Stanton. I could see the Tigers trading Castellanos plus others for a Stanton though.
” Barnes, Bradley, Bogaerts and maybe even include Lavarnway.”
HAHA. I watch the Fish also.. Fan of both Boston and the Marlins.. But NOBODY in the game is worth that package…
Edit:
I meant to post that to the other poster, not you and apologies.
Boston has many more prospects than you think.. Another member here without a clue as to what they truly have perhaps? 6 in Sickels top 100? 3 in BA top 50? Sounds pretty deep to me…
3 in the top 50 is awesome but this is an honest question, what positions do they play? what age are they? and what level are they at?
Not trying to demean you here.. but you ought to be able to simply google BA top 50 and it comes right up 1st…
Unless trying to demean those 3 top 50 players by some chance perhaps?
I’ll Just go this far with the “help”
#13 Matt Barnes. RHP Drafted Last season 22YO High A Ball
#31 Xander Bogaerts IFA 20YO SS High A Ball
#32 Jackie Bradley CF 22YO Drafted last year AA Ball.
Barnes will more than likely be at AA last month of the year. The team promotes pitchers slowly for the most part.
Bogaerts and Barnes also participated in the world game just prior to the AS game.. A honor btw.
Bogaerts is 19 by the way, not 20.
Cheers compadre. Was going from memory on ages without looking that part up 🙂
I don’t think Eric Patterson was part of the big 4 for the Sawx
The trade deadline just got a little more exciting
I’d like to see the braves get a bench bat in Infante, he thrived much more in a super utility role in Atlanta 2 years ago before becoming primarily a 2B. Could help out a lot next year too, move Prado back to 3B and put Infante in the OF
Another player that has kind of flown under the radar is Bonifacio because of his thumb injury, but he is a thief on the bases. And if we don’t lock Bourn up in the offseason, he could become our CF/Leadoff hitter
What could the braves give up for infante and boni?
I would say Delgado, Bethancourt and some other lower prospects…
I think they will give McCann the contract he wants and we could also play infante or bonifacio at SS until Simmons returns.
Add pastornicky and you might have a deal marlins will probably ask for major league ready talent
Bob Nutting just called and said he will gladly give up his 3 favorite moths from his walltet when it opens for Stanton. And that’s saying something because Bob is REALLY attached to those guys. They’ve been in there forever…
Padres should try to go after Stanton if he does actually become available, I think he hits the farthest distance per Homer which could translate to actual home runs at Petco park. I’d give the Marlins whatever they want, Kelly as the #1 chip and then a few others from the top 20 list.
I’d give them Kelly, Hedges, Ross, Rincon, and Erlin.
Then trade Quentin to Cincinatti for Sulbaran and Grgorious. Headley to the O’s for Schoop and Matusz, and Street to NYM for Nimmo and Fulmer.
I could see them trying to rid themselves of Bell, also.
I agree, I thought the Marlins had to win the World Series before they were allowed to sell off their players.
Randy choate would look real nice in the pirates bull pen we need a loggy
Personally I think its those hideous uniforms that’s holding this team back.
You might have a case. It’s common knowledge that drug dabbling of the 70’s led to those hideous polyester pullovers of the Pirates. Something about having lines around their caps made them want to snort them.
The Marlins are likely safe though. It’s not as if they play in an area of historically significant drug trafficking and usage.
Why should anyone be shoked. They have an owner who thinks championships are won on paper. That little runt Sampson has no clue on day to day baseball operations. They went out and threw $100 mill on Reyes who is showing like most FA that he had a career year and will never duplicate those numbers again. The Mets let Reyes walk without even countering. Does that tell you anything. Heath Bell has already lost the closer job and is now the 8 th inning guy. The Marlins should continue to scout and draft players. They are good at that. They are not good at signing FA.
Eh…Reyes has three 6+ WAR seasons, including 2011, so not sure that was really a “career year”.
Sort of have to agree with your last sentence though.
Considering that 2011 was one of his best years for his career he was correct in saying it was a career year. He didn’t say Reyes was bad he just said he was coming off a career year
You could never really overpay for a shortstop of that caliber, great defensively and an offensive threat the marlins have him for six years it was too much asking for him to live up to the cOntract now he has time to mature get settled and take over as leader of the club and if injury was a risk it’s hard to get a jeter or cal Ripken that can play every day shortstops ate invisible and if reyes was “overpayed” because he’s injury probe why does no one complain about tulo where he’s seemingly played half the games he’s been payed for
im pretty sure a lot of people complain about tulo and his huge contract and his inability to stay on the field…my biggest thing is they were bidding against them selves, reyes even said(on the franchise) that the mets never even offered him a contract, and they already had a franchise player in hanley
The mets themselves knew even before the 2011 season started they weren’t going to be able to keep him And I see nothing wrong with having two franchise players especially some that have such great chemistry and overpaying is not bad all the time as long as it doesn’t leave you bankrupt no one can really put a price on a player and you don’t know if you overpayed or got a good deal until the player goes on the field when you sign a free agent it’s based on their past performances you can’t tell the future I’m sure as hell no one would think he’s overpayed if he’s been as healthy as he has this year while hitting over .300 and 30 plus stolen bases
Reyes does not warrant $106 mill. He is not that type of player. Im not saying he isnt good hes just not an elite player. His former team laughed when they heard what he signed for and didnt bother to make an offer. No other team in Mlb countered. What does that tell you.
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Reyes has in my eyes earned elite status with many 40+ steal seasons a batting tittle great defense and a plus arm not many shortstops compare last year you could argue the top SS were tulo Reyes and Hanley no one else could compare so why not go for a ss that no other team can compare to
Bonifacio to the Orioles. Fixes lead off and 2nd base.
What could the orioles offer?
Matusz, or Reynolds or any combination of a lot of players.
Reynolds has no value.
Not that Stanton would ever be available but….Taillon, Marte, Hanson, Polanco, and Heredia… 3 top 50 guys and 2 other super high upside guys (around 100)….ehhh probably still not even close to enough.
Would 5 guys in the top 100 even get it done?
Taillon, marte, and Cole I would assume is what the starting part is. 100% non biased that’s pretty fair. Stanton is going to compete for the MVP sooner than later and is only 22
I think realistically that would be a great offer, never really seen any trades with that many high level prospects, but I feel like the Marlins wouldn’t trade him no matter what. His potential is through the roof.
Then again I think there was some possibility that they were going to trade him for Manny Ramirez at one point. I was watching The Franchise and I think their president said something like “We were offered Manny Ramirez for him but had to decline because he has so much potential”. Realistically he should have laughed them off the phone but he acted as if he gave it some thought.
Maybe they figured out that building a team through free agency is the most ineffective way, and trading has never failed them
I almost feel sorry for the Marlins fans, You trade for the most obnoxious manager in baseball–anything he does well is far over shadowed by the negative of saying the worst possible things at the worst possible time. You then sign Jose Reyes, who is to me a GREAT player, but not worth the money given (and although there really isn’t much evidence I feel as though he is a clubhouse cancer). You have HanRam who may be the most frustrating player in baseball, who also appears to be a Clubhouse cancer.
The Bell signing appears to be one of the worst in recent memory (albeit that could change, although it doesn’t seem likely).
Now there is talk, which is just smoke anyway, that you may be open to trading the most promising power hitter in recent memory. As a Brave’s fan I would do anything to pry him away from the Marlins, you have a special player on your hands–One to build a franchise around, and I honestly hope you guys do trade him…to the AL.
Is it just me, or does it seem that the Marlins set themselves up for disaster?
as a marlins fan i will have to probably become just a baseball fan if they actually do trade stanton
They will be buyers.
they already are hence el caballo
cant wait to see how that works out, ozzie was the main reason he was tradded out of chicago
Chicago trade him because they didn’t need a coach of his caliber what’s left to teach to a team of 80% veterans no need to waste any money on a manager asking for millions when Konerko and Youk can probably manage the team themselves the marlins don’t have that veteran presence so they called Ozzie to guide the young team and I have no complaints with the work he’s done
Seriously if the Marlins are trading Stanton the Braves should be all over that! He’s a bat worth trading our surplus of pitching. Teheran, Minor, Gearrin, Pastornicky and Cunningham for Stanton
Totally agree!!! Imagine having Heyward and Stanton holding down the corner OF spots for years. Go ahead and lock them two up along with Freeman and Simmons, and half the starting lineup would be cheap and under team control for years. Would allow payroll flexibility in other areas.
You heard it here first…Tyler Pastornicky, Luis Durango, and low level prospect for Omar Infante and cash considerations.
Mariners:
Giancarlo
Stanton
Marlins:
Dustin
Ackley
Justin
Smoak
Taijuan
Walker
add hultzen and felix and montero 🙂
The marlins would go for that…more talent to trade away
As much as I would love for that to happen that isn’t even close. Throw in Nick Franklin and one of Paxton/Hultzen and we might actually get a phone call.
i was actually just thinking that the M’s are one of the few teams with the prospects that could pull off a trade
I don’t under stand trading Stanton considering he is one of the best power hitters in the game and still has room to improve, which is scary, you would think he is THE only guy who should be untouchable and should be built around. And loria cannot say he will be too expensive considering what he just threw towards his team. That being said considering it is the marlins who traded miggy once it would not surprise me, at least they will have the pick of everyones prospects because every single gm in baseball should be calling and offering their farms
How about the Marlins trading Ozzie for Ron Gardenhire and a player to be named later?
You can take Guillen and Bell for Gardenhire.
lol i cant picture ozzie managing in minnesota or gardenhire mamaging in miami i dont know which one would be more awkward in their would be new jobs
Biggest mistake ( I called right away) was taking that dolt Guillen as a manager.
They should have left him in Chicago, with that co equal dolt, Kenny Williams…
Anibal Sánchez may just be the most underrated pitcher in the league, of the non rentals potentially available he would be the best.
hes a FA after this year
well that changes things.
You’re right about being underrated though. For some reason, his name doesn’t get brought up in the upcoming long term FA deals like Hamels or Greinke.
How is a pitcher with over a 4 ERA underrated?
Because ERA is a terrible way to evaluate a pitcher.
Marlins really need to improve their farm system. Maybe Infante and Buck can get some good prospects.
Catching is bad around the league. In fact it is downright awful for most teams and that includes on the Fish and John Buck.. Nobody is going to take john Buck unless they pay every last dime of his salary.
Oakland would/will have a much easier time moving Suzuki than the Fish will Buck. Suzuki has major upside and teams see he has hit in the past and is 4 years younger.
Marlins catching/offense from that position has been one of the teams major weakness this entire season.
I wonder what it would take for the White Sox to acquire Randy Choate and Annibel Sanchez.
Yep, other than Jose Fernandez,Christian Yelich, and to a smaller extent Heaney it is really weak
ozuna and realmuto are ight
Choate is a LOOGY (Ohman), and the White Sox don’t need another starter.
Man I would love to see Stanton in Dodger Blue. I dont think we have the prospects but maybe a combination of MLB players, prospects plus CASH would do the trick.
Jansen/Eovaldi/Zach Lee/Allen Webster/Joc Pederson + 20 mil for JJ and Stanton? LOL… probably still not enough. Or maybe that cuban OF we just signed Puig included in some package for JJ and Stanton.
Eovaldi/Lee/Webster/Puig/Sands + CASH???
Padres should trade – Casey Kelly – Robbie Erlin – Austin Hedges – Rymer Lieriano for Staton. All 4 guys top 100, 40# 87# 98# 49#
I think the Marlins would be asking for Grandal and Alonso. Especially since they are both originally from Cuba.
just imagine giancarlo stanton in great american ballpark for half a season…
Why just half a season? It would be like four or five years.
The Reds shot their prospect load on Latos. Not happening.
Mark Buehrle to the Cardinals finally? (Well maybe, but I think the Marlins will have to eat some of that contract they gave him)
Might as well sell its not like the fans down there care anyways. First year stadium averaging 28k. Win or lose that figure will be down to 15k per game in less than two years.
To quote skip bayliss, which no one should ever do: “this is assinine, ten, eleven and twelve.” No doubt they might sell but probably guys like Carlos Lee, Anibal and Choate, and anyone else who doesn’t figure to be on the team next year. I’ve heard Larry Beinfest on the record say that he still has nightmares about the Cabrera trade (Willis I’m sure he can live with).
Trading Mike Stanton, psff, you guys are dreaming. I generally trust Olney but I think he might’ve been hitting the pipe…..hard!!!
Beckett
Ellsbury
Shoppach
Kalish
Iglesias
Ranaudo
$15M
For
Stanton
Sanchez
Florida may possibly get better this year and they add prospects with high upside.
Good! I hate Jeffrey Loria and anything he is associated with! He took away the Expos from Canada, after promising that he wouldn’t, and there is no one on the planet that I take greater joy in seeing fail!