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Morosi On Braves, Tigers, Cardinals, Greinke

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | July 17, 2012 at 12:22pm CDT

The Braves are looking at possible bullpen upgrades in addition to starting pitching options, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter). Here are more news items from Morosi with precisely two weeks to go before this year’s trade deadline…

  • The Tigers would like to add a left-handed starter, but are wary of taking on all of Wandy Rodriguez’s contract, Morosi reports (on Twitter). Rodriguez earns $10MM this year and $13MM next year. His contract includes a $13MM option for 2014 that becomes a player option if the Astros trade Rodriguez. 
  • Jason Vargas is a similar pitcher to Rodriguez on a more affordable contract who could appeal to the Tigers, in my opinion. Alternatively, Houston could absorb salary to facilitate a trade.
  • The Cardinals continue to monitor the market for starters and relievers, Morosi and Ken Rosenthal write. The Mariners recently scouted Cardinals pitching prospect Tyrell Jenkins, but it’s not known if the teams are actively discussing a trade for Vargas or anyone else.
  • Morosi gets the sense that Brewers right-hander Zack Greinke will stay put in Milwaukee this year (video link).
  • Morosi explains that he believes Cole Hamels is a better fit for the Rangers than the Angels (video link).
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  1. stl_cards16

    13 years ago

    I hope Mozeliak doesn’t give up Jenkins for someone like Vargas…..Now in a package for Felix……..I’m kidding.

    Reply
  2. The_Unnatural

    13 years ago

    That’s what the M’s need, more mediocre pitching prospects. 

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    • stl_cards16

      13 years ago

      Jenkins has a very high ceiling.  He is still pretty raw and a few years away, though.

      Reply
    • cards2WS

      13 years ago

      You don’t know who Tyrell Jenkins is do you…?

      Reply
    • Adam

      13 years ago

      He is a Top 100 prospect for a run of the mill lefty.  Nothing to scoff at…

      Reply
  3. cards2WS

    13 years ago

    I don’t understand the connection between Vargas and STL. He’s a downgrade on what we have already.

    Waino
    Lohse
    Lynn
    Westbrook
    Kelly/Garcia

    That’s good. Why do we need a starter? We should go hard at a couple bullpen pieces.

    Reply
    • Shikikazu

      13 years ago

      If Garcia doesn’t come back then that rotation is all right handed.

      Reply
  4. Guest 4381

    13 years ago

    If Jason Vargas can bring those HR’s down a tiny bit he’ll be just fine. 

    Reply
  5. Scottage Cheese

    13 years ago

    Randall Wolf! Detroit, take him!

    Reply
  6. Dan

    13 years ago

    Seems realistic to build a package around Shelby including Jenkins and Wong.  Throw in a couple mid to lower guys.  Or even someone on the MLB squad.  Allen Craig?   So Craig, Miller, Jenkins, and Wong for Felix and Smoak…  That has to be @ least interesting for SEA front office to think about…. 

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    • Guest 4380

      13 years ago

      Can you tell me why St. Louis would have ANY interest in Justin Smoak, a guy who hasn’t and probably won’t live up to his potential, when they have a better 1B prospect in Matt Adams already being blocked by Craig and Berkman.

      Reply
      • Adam

        13 years ago

        Thank you D3ANSKI.  Tell you what Dan.  Change Craig to Adams and Smoak to Ackley: You got yourself a good trade.

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        • stl_cards16

          13 years ago

          heck with that.  I’d do that trade he proposed yesterday!  I would be all over that in a second.  Not that I want Smoak, but I’d give up that package strictly for Felix in a heartbeat.  So if they want us to take Smoak, too…. I’d find something to do with him.  Sell beer, mow the grass, I don’t care.

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    • cardsfan1988

      13 years ago

      I see it highly unlikely that the Cardinals give up all of their top 100 prospects even if it means getting Felix back. Felix is great, but it is not worth giving up all of your top prospects for. Second has been a weak spot for the Cardinals so parting with Wong I dont see very likely…not to mention, I dont see Craig going anywhere in any deal

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      • stl_cards16

        13 years ago

        You’re nuts!  Wong is the only one I’d even think twice about just because he is ready to take over at 2B next year and the M’s already have Ackley so they don’t value Wong too highly.  But I’d throw in another high upside pitching prospect.

        That deal would still leave the Cardinals with Taveras, Martinez, Rosenthal, and Adams who are all top 100 prospects.

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        • Adam

          13 years ago

          The deal would also force the Cardinals to make Adams the starting 1Bman.  What if it turns out he’s not ready to take that role?  A team like the Mariners can take that chance because they aren’t expected to win.  A team like the Cardinals can’t.

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          • stl_cards16

            13 years ago

            When you have the chance to have a starting rotation of Felix, Wainwright, Lynn, and Garcia…..I’ll take it.  I can find a stop-gap 1B to split time with Adams for a season, just like the Cardinals have done in RF for quite a few years.

            Obviously this is never going to happen.  But everyone acting like the Cardinals shouldn’t pay that price is crazy.  If Felix were truly available, someone would top that.

            Reply
  7. aarons-6

    13 years ago

     Cardinals would have no interest in Smoak with Adams pretty much ready

    I think the Cardinasl coudl be looking hard at Vargas…who i think woudl do well in StL, but i think Mozeliak is probably also trying to get a guy like Furbush…a good lefty for our pen…i wouldnt be surprised if League is on the table too…dumping the 5million lefty between Vargas and League i am sure would be appealing to the Mariners as both are only on one year contracts…

    Tyrell Jenkins + Dickson + (probably another 40man guy)? + maybe one more decent prospect

    for

    Vargas + League + Furbush

    after the year is over, the Mariners would still have all of them and the Cardinals would have Furbush

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  8. aarons-6

    13 years ago

    I hadnt thought about Ackley who although struggling woudl be a good get for the Cards… Wong is on his way but i coudl see the Cards moving him to get a guy like Ackley

    how about…Ackley, Vargas, Furbush for Jenkins, Wong, Tyler Greene, Dickson? not enough?

    im just spitballing

    Reply
  9. AlbiestheRacistDragon

    13 years ago

    I really think the move for the Braves is bullpen.  They’re not going to trade top prospects for a middle of the rotation guy, and the only top tier guy available is Greinke, assuming the phillies wouldn’t trade Hamels within the division.  But they won’t pay 20 mil a year to extend Greinke, and they probably won’t trade for him if they can’t extend him.  So if they trade for someone like Brett Myers and they get Peter Moylan back, they can move Medlen to the 5th spot in the rotation. Then if they get to the postseason, move him back to the bullpen.

    Reply
  10. RedsFanForever

    13 years ago

    The Reds need a left handed bat off the bench. Time to let Uncle Walt do his job…..go get a bat or maybe a top of the order hitter.  Then again I would ride out the lead off hitter spot with what you have already.  Billy Hamilton is waiting in the wings. 

    Reply
  11. stroh

    13 years ago

    Wandy has pitched 29 consecutive starts of 5 innings or more (only CC and Verlander have pitched more consecutive starts of 5 innings or me), and has an ERA of about 3.5 over the last 5 years.   If a team wants Wandy, they will have to pay.   Luhnow has shown in three trades (Melancon, Quintero/Bourgeiois and Lee) that he will get good talent (Lowrie/Weiland, and 4 good minor league prospects) even for marginal players.   I doubt he is going to give up Wandy for a bucket of balls.    My prediction is that Wandy will be traded to an NL team (where his value is higher, because the other teams have seen him pitch), and where he won’t hurt the Astros in the future as they will be in the AL albeit it will be a few years before they will contend again.

    Reply
  12. Tim R

    13 years ago

    These kind of deals also backfire….Jarrod Washburn singlehandedly pitched the Tigers out of the 2009 playoffs -8 starts 7.33 ERA 1 win, 1 team win….now Aubrey Huff also decided to copulate the canine after his deadline deal to the Bengals that year too…120 PA of .189/265/302….but you get my drift. Vargas is a schmuck….

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  13. oriema2002

    13 years ago

    I can’t figure out why there’s no interest in Micael Bourn.  His numbers are fair to good and the Braves c;learly have signalled that they will be sellers. Besides Bourn will be a FA and unlikely to sign with the Braves.

    Reply
    • Jeff 31

      13 years ago

       Braves aren’t sellers period unless it’s a straight baseball trade like trading Uggla for an ace or something.

      Reply
    • ryan22ward

      13 years ago

      Braves have the 5th best record in baseball. How are they clearly sellers?

      Reply

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