The Padres are drawing “huge” amounts of interest in third baseman Chase Headley, and there’s a “strong probability” of a trade, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reports. The Padres are "down the road" with several teams willing to part with high-end prospects for Headley, Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports (on Twitter).
The Yankees are unlikely to make a strong push for Headley, Heyman reports. Though they will consider third base options now that Alex Rodriguez is on the disabled list with a broken hand, they don’t want to surrender top prospects for Headley. The Yankees will ask the Padres about Headley, but haven’t done so yet, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney reports (on Twitter).
Headley has a .268/.361/.423 batting line in 421 plate appearances for the Padres this year. He earns $3.48MM in 2012 and will remain under team control through 2014. GM Josh Byrnes has reportedly set a tremendously high asking price for Headley. The Orioles, Indians, Pirates, A's and others have checked in on the 28-year-old.
Makes so much sense for the Orioles. Improves the team’s OBP, fixes 3B, slot him #2 and push Hardy down to #5 or 6 where he belongs. No, he’s not a big time slugger, but he’s exactly what the O’s are missing from their 3B position.
Agree with everything you said…
Same could be said about the Indians though. He’s exactly what the Indians need at 3B and they need a RH bat in the worst way.
who would they give up? arrieta? or xavier avery? I would part with either if that means the orioles would get a defensive 3b with a solid bat
they could part with both and it likely still wouldn’t be enough
In OPACY, he could be a 20 HR man.
1. Yankees acquire Headley for Prospects
2. Yankees trade Headley for Prospects in the offseason
3. ???????????????
4. Profit
That would not be very profitable though. Since it’s the deadline now, the price for Headley is a lot higher than it will be in the off-season. So the Yanks will end up giving more than they’ll get back.
and have a better team for the playoffs this year…
That would be true, I’m sure Headley is better than any other option they could place at 3B right now, but I’m sure A-rod will be back before the season ends, it takes what, 4-6 weeks to heal a broken hand? And there is over 2 months left of baseball, I have a feeling they won’t go for him.
Headley is better than A-Rod defensively and has also played some LF in his career. He helps you guys either way
Watch as soon as the ChiSox fall out of it (I give them until late August) they try and make a waiver deal with the Yankees for Youk. How funny would it be the NYY fans that booed him would want him to slip through waivers?
5. Or Yankees don’t have the prospects to acquire him.
Breaking news…. the killer H’s Headley and Hundley head to the Yankees for Banuelos and Sanchez.
The only piece that fits in regards to the Yanks trading for Headley is Step 3.
This post was a south park reference and a joke. Probably confusing to non-south park watchers..
Not sure if Oakland will make a strong play at this one. SS is a bigger need
Because he plays in SD and is especially hurt by PETCO, it is always nice to remind people what he does on the road
.279/.378/.488/.866, .378 wOBA, 147 wRC+ ~ 2012
.330/.399/.465/.864, .376 wOBA, 147 wRC+ ~ 2011
Should provide quite an upgrade to almost any team in the game.
/droooool
I love him.
I honestly think they should keep him, keep in mind I dont know of any 3rd basemen in their system that are MLB ready but he is one of the few guys who still puts up very good number at petco
Jedd Gyorko?
Would REALLY like to see Gyorko play at least a few hundred at bats at MLB level before Pads ship Headley out. We know he can hit minor league pitching, but its almost a standing joke how many guys hit like Ruth in the minors and then flame out against major league stuff.
I agree, watching Rizzo now makes me feel like we got robbed. Watching that bomb he hit today live made me feel even worse lol
Padres definitely got robbed in that Rizzo deal. Rizzo is way more valuable than Cashner. And much better than Alonso. Bad move there by Byrnes.
Agreed so hard. I know Gyorko is supposed to be a more polished hitter (at the time of their call-ups), but I’m just having nightmares of Rizzo’s sub .200 BA flashing over and over. Plus isn’t Gyorko’s defense at third supposed to be a little flimsy?
His defense will be solid. He came up as a short stop as being drafted and has played second. He will be more than fine with his bat at the hot corner.
I agree. People act as if Gyorko is an instant replacement. He likely will be just fine, but the Padres should be attempting to retain qaulity bats not trade them away. Let Gyorko take a few at bats at 3B and a couple hundred at 2B before trading away a legit bat. Nice screen name, BTW.
For a rebuilding team it makes sense to get prospects if you have a valuable trading chip.
Just as long as they are major league ready prospects. It’s nice to have the number one farm system, but that doesn’t mean crap to me if they aren’t playing at major league level
Jedd Gyorko is their guy, top 70-90 prospect who is supposedly ready now/at least really soon
And I understand what you are saying, but…
.258/.345/.363/.709, .313 wOBA, 103 wRC+ ~ 2012
.243/.348/.326/.674, .309 wOBA, 101 wRC+ ~ 2011
…he does get absolutely destroyed at PETCO.
Granted, that is as good as, if not slightly better then, most other hitters in
San Diego, but it’s also the difference between Evan Longoria on the
Road to say, an even weaker Freddy Sanchez at Home.
More like a 50 top prospect that is climbing in prospect status. But I agree, he is their guy. A right hander with similar MiLB numbers theoretically could profile more favorably in Petco than Headley has.
Forsythe and Gyorko are both ready and able to replace Headley.
not to mention Darnell as well when he comes back.
Darnell could get some at bats at 3b but is inferior to both Forsythe and Gyorko defensively at third.
the point is he’s another option
Thank you, thank you, thank you, S OB. I’ve been beating my head against the wall trying to get this point across to people.
Byrnes must be looking for a Top OF prospect, which of these teams has the best to offer?
O’s have Avery and Hoes… not TOP prospects, but solid prospects all the same.
OF Top prospects is all the Yankees have lol
my bad, edited that
Gary Sanchez is a catcher
The Yankees are not trading Sanchez.
Did I say that? No. You said all they had was top OF prospects, I just corrected you.
I didn’t mean it literally. but they have two very good pieces (Mason Williams and Tyler Austin) which I doubt they trade them for Headley.
That’s ok because at this point the last thing the Padres need is a high end catcher prospect with grandal just being called up and Austin Hedges in A ball.
orioles have xavier avery who is a speedy top of the order cf who can get on base and steal. He was called up for the first time this year due to injuries in the OF but could be an everyday player in the majors next year or so.
No thanks.
Think for a second. You just signed Quentin, so he’s your left fielder, like it or not. Maybin is in a long slump, and hasn’t progressed they way you’d like. Things I’ve read say he’s trying to hard to hit HRs in a non-HR park. You also have Denorfia and Venable, both useful players, but hardly answers. Avery improves your defense, you put him into left, move Carlos back to RF, where he played most of the time with the White Sox, and you’ve got another table setter and a young one at that. Xavier is only 22 and did not look over matched during his times up. Plus, he’s hit seven HRs at AAA, so he does have some pop, but is mainly a gap-hitting doubles machine and, at PETCO, could hit more than a few triples.
Trust me, I wouldn’t consider trading him unless it was to get a guy like Headley.
avery strikes out way 2 much, nice try but no thanks
brain, do not get caught up in strikeouts. He’s 22, very new to baseball, having been a football player through high school. In fact, he was going to play football for the University of Georgia but signed with the Orioles, who drafted him based on his immense physical ability. His skills are beginning to show up, and strikeouts are something that can be fixed. Trust me, you’ll wish you had traded for this guy when you had the chance. Like I said before, I’d love if they kept him, but if they could use him to get a guy like Headley, who would solve so many of the Orioles problems, more’s the better.
BTW you should be a used car salesman, but strikeouts are a huge factor- plate discipline is not easy to correct. No thanks, you guys seem sold on him- keep him.
The Padres owe Maybin 4/24m after this year. He’s the teams CF now and going forward. It’s been an off year but his bat has started to come to life, although the wrist injury has kept him out for the past week. Avery is a nice prospect, but I don’t think we’ll see San Diego moving Headley for a player of his ilk.
Based on the players the Orioles are willing to part with i’d be very surprised to see him end up there. Not a great fit.
I would accept a package centered around Matusz and Schoop.
I think we can do better.
I prefer the prospects that the Pirates and A’s could potentially offer.
Avery might be progressing nicely into a baseball player, but there’s no way around the fact that he’s not a top prospect and there is a lot of work to be done. I’d rather have Hoes if its an outfielder they’re after. They might want Schoop to see if they can reconvert him to SS
Wow the scenarios on this board from Baltimore are just everything + an added “ulous.”
Are u being insidious 😉
Edit.. Well.. Got the ous..LOL
Ok, San Diego people, how about Matusz. Bridwell, Schoop, and Hoes for Headley and someone else?
I wouldn’t mind if the orioles parted with Hoes and/or schoop for headley. We’ll keep avery and put him at lead off and LF when he’s ready to play full time in the bigs which is most likely next year
The O’s system is so tricky because it has amazing potential with guys like Schoop, Bridwell, and Matusz who are all playing awful this year. I’m really curious to see what ends up happening/what the padres would want in a potential trade
Right field at Petco requires someone with speed, a la Venable or Denorfia. The right center gap is a haul. Quentin needs to stay in left field which isn’t as tough.
Whatever addition has to beat out Denorfia and Venable, they don’t want a borderline RF added that want to trade for a guy every team would start over Venable or Denorfia. Players need high ceiling cause pads have the deepest talent pool but need more stars. p.s. Liriano (just moved to AA) will be starter before the end of 2014. He’s a future 20/20 guy, stole over 60 last season, shows EVERY tool. K’s too much still.
Nothing gets done with Baltimore unless Schoop is included, at a minimum. Avery is no centerpiece. Most people in SD still believe in Maybin as well. He’s hit much better since altering his stance and is still only 24.
i like avery, he looks like dee gordon but an outfielder
No thanks we already have a speedy top of the order OF who strikes out 2 much in Maybin, look how thats going for us. Padres need a power hitting outfielder or a guy with true 5 tool potential.
“No thanks we already have a speedy top of the order OF who strikes out 2 much in Maybin”
LOL! You were warned before signing him to that outlandish 5 year contract.
Signed,
Marlins fan who saw this for 3 seasons
i never signed him to anything, i don’t if you noticed but fans didn’t really have a say in his extension.
Apologies.. You will almost NEVER see me do that.. Check over my posts.. It aggrivates me as well…
no harm done.
Padres have been looking for their leadoff hitter since moving to Petco. A lead off type could be an enticing addition to a package around 1 or 2 star prospects
With Pablo hurt and belt really struggling, you could put headley at 3rd and wheb pablo gets back move pablo to first.Giants should be interested, unless the padres don’t want to trade within the division. Giants have Gary brown who they could offer. And I wouldn’t mind trading our top prospect for Headley, plus he’s under control through 2014
i doubt the padres want to give up a player with 3 years left under control to a division rival
If the Padres are looking for an outfield prospect the pirates could center a package around starling marte.
Phils need a third baseman, and the free agent market is weak. Go for it.
The Phillies aren’t going anywhere this year and do they even have the prospects to trade for Headley.
Who said anything about “this year”? Phillies need a 3B for next year and beyond.
With what?
Spend a ton of money, empty out the farm system, repeat.
Doesn’t seem sustainable to me…
A 7 game lead is certainly not insurmountable. Its still late July. We’ve certainly seen leads like that much later in the season dissapear. I think this ARod injury will hurt alot. In past years, when we had a guy like Posada catching and hitting well, Damon in LF and Matsui at DH…we would be able to handle it. Not sure if we can now since we already have weaknesses at other lineup spots.
Jeter
Granderson
Tex
Cano
Swisher
Ibanez/Jones
Ichiro
Nix/Chavez
Martin
Once you get past 5, there are alot of holes. I dont like Ibanez/Jones having to hit 6th. Ichiro? What can we expect from him? He does have a .288 OBP this year. On days Nix plays, the 8-9 spots are like two pitchers spots and unless Ichiro finds his old form…7-8-9 are downright brutal. If you play Chavez too much, you have to worry about his body holding up.
Even if he comes back in mid-late September (assuming its 6-8 weeks) where will he rehab? who’s to say he will even be in prime shape to play? Alot of question marks. This is why I advocate swinging a deal for a guy like Chase Headley. It keeps the lineup lengthened and eliminates what would be a significant hole. If ARod comes back? Then you have really good depth. You can even DH Alex and play Headley at 3B if you want in certain games.
I definitely like the idea of adding another player I’d just see the yankees overpay for someone else other than headley.
I say the red sox do what they were gonna do with ramirez. Get headley and trade for a few pitching propects from the yankees
How about Headley straight up for Hunter Pence? I know the Padres don’t want to take on salary like that but they are very similar players, Phils need a 3B – Padres need a OF to build team around with Quentin……I kinda like it.
Hunter Pence? Really… I’d rather chew bamboo and watch grass grow. Pence is not a build around piece, he is overrated and prone to long slumps. Petco National Park is where mediocre hitters disappear. Think back to Ludwig, his numbers died here and I think Ludwig is a better player/hitter then Pence.
I understand you wanted to disagree vehemently with the previous poster’s suggestion — but Hunter Pence overrated? I think the guy is just ‘rated’. He’s fine. He’s a pretty good hitter, he doesn’t kill anyone in the OF.
Ryan Ludwick a better player? Really?
Ya Ludwick is and will never be the caliber player that Pence is.
Headley > Pence, but many don’t know it because Headley’s numbers are so suppressed by his home ballpark. Headley is also cheaper than Pence. And younger than Pence (meaning, this isn’t the kind of player that SD would want in return).
Exactly. Pence has played in 2 of the easiest parks to hit. Headley has hit in arguably the worst.
Ok just a thought….lol
Considering Pence has 1 less year of control and will make more in ’13 than Headley will in ’13 & ’14, I don’t see that as a fit 1-1.
Hey Jack Z, trade Blake Beavan and Franklin Gutiérrez for him. Beavan would be great at Petco, Guti will be the best CF defensively in baseball again.
I’m sure Headley would be ecstatic about playing in another pitcher’s park.
They already have Maybin who can cover any park and not hit.
Would the Reds be interested? Let Frazier play 1b until Votto gets back and then put Frazier in LF.
I’d love for the Reds to have him but it seems unlikely.
I think Phillies are going to be going hard after Headley. Everyone keeps doubting what the Phillies can do. Keep doubting.
Alright since we didn’t get hanley, lets go after headley and yunel.
Dude, you were bashing Headley 2 days ago….really? with Choice injured good luck
Choice wasn’t ready to come up this year anyway, and now that we didn’t get hanley, I’d be willing to part with some top prospects for him and ship brett anderson to toronto for yunel
The A’s dodged a bullet by not getting the overpaid, undermotivated Ramirez. Escobar would be a definite upgrade. I’d trade Choice or Taylor in a heartbeat. The Jays will likely want pitching, though. Peacock and anybody else not named Strailey at AAA?
Headley would be great, but who do you move? Griffin? Gray? Anderson?
The A’s will likely end up with Marco Scutaro and that would be a vast improvement over their current trio of AAA players at SS.
I dunno about that.. Crisp is another who could have worked with Ramirez some.. he needs someone to lean hard on him and kick him into gear and Crisp will do that sort of stuff, plus who better to get Hanley’s running gear back to working than Crisp?
Since Choice is hurt, do you think a package with Michael Taylor instead might interest the Pads?
Whoa that’s a big boy right there, they already have Kyle Blanks who is built similar but falls apart every time he plays 3 games in a row…so probably not.
No
Honestly I’d rather have AJ Cole be the centerpiece of any deal with the A’s. He did awful in high A this year but I think they rushed him there. He’s only 20 and has done well back in low A, still has top of the rotation potential.
Tyler Austin, Betances, Nunez for Headley?
i like tyler austin but not the others
I’ve always liked Headley. He’s a very good 3B.
If they can land a few high-end prospects I’m all for it. If not, he’s cheap enough to keep until Gyorko is ready.
Although I am in favor of keeping headley, Forsythe is ready now and Gyorko should be as well. I could see the two splitting time there this year and battleing for the starting job next year.
Darnell, when healthy could be in the mix as well.
Maybe for a few at bats there, but as you know his 3B defense is below average. I could see Darnell replacing Jesus Guzman as a utility bat.
I don’t see that. I’ve heard from sources that he needs seasoning but should be adequate. And Darnell was a touted prospect that was playing well before his injury. I believe he has as much, if not more to offer than Guzman because his defense at third specifically is much better. They won’t even play Guzman at third. That’s more than telling.
Agreed that Darnell is for sure a better defender than Guzman. I also know that Darnells D at third has improved year over year, but is still inferior to Forsythe and Gyorko. Darnells main value is in his bat. He will get atbats at third but I doubt it would exceed that of Gyorko or Forsythe. The good news is that the Padres have 4 legit 3b options right now. If only we had that kind of depth at short.
The Phils don’t have the prospects to land Headley, but the Rangers do. So, I see a three team deal with Cliff Lee going back to Texas (with the Phils eating some of his contract), Headley and a couple of mid-level prospects from Texas landing in Philly, and the Padres netting several high-level prospects from Texas.
probably olt?
Would the Padres go for Olt with Gyorko waiting in the wings? I suppose the could either move him to the OF or Gyorko to 2nd.
i honestly wouldn’t mind Olt but if we can move Gyorko to 2nd there’s no point in moving Headley. Perez, Buckel, and even Sardinas on the other hand would fit better and i would assume the Phils would have to give the padres prospects as well or something along those lines.
pray for profar with me Pads fans 😉
i wish, hopefully we can pry hanson from the pirates- he’s the closest prospect we could possibly acquire that’s somewhat comparable to profar. Pray for Polanco and Hanson for Headley.
Those two came out of no where this year and are super young. They’re probably not coming to the big leagues until 2015. If we’re trading with the Pirates I think we can do better
we don’t necessarily need immediate help as long as it comes with huge upside. THIS IS the best we can do with the pirates, because the pirates are not gonna trade Taillon or Cole for Headley.
I just see their value greatly diminished if say Jace Peterson ends up blocking Hanson. Or more likely since Hansons fielding is pretty awful at SS, I think there’s a good chance he’ll end up at 2B and be in that jam with Spangenberg and Belnome. I think we could get Marte or Heredia who are a lot closer to helping and have bigger upside, and they’re practically unblockable
First off a team should never depend solely on a player they have in the lower minors (Jace)- having depth is a good problem to have just look at this Headley situation. Secondly Hanson can play second and so can Jace as well- which would move Spang to the OF which imo he profiles better. Marte would be nice, however the pirates would most likely want to keep him since he’s almost major league ready and on top of that we have a lot of OFs already which poses who goes and who stays type problem. Finally, although i would like Heredia as well- you do realize he is only 17 right? Hardly any closer to the majors than Hanson nor Polanco. Padres really need offensive prospects at any level with upside or major league ready pitching.
I agree with you on the Jace thing, you got me beat on that one. I guess what I’m worried about is him turning into a 2B because a lot of the stuff ive read on him says that will happen. That would completely suck because Amarista and forsythe are under team control for the next 5 years and Galvez Belnome and Spangerberg could be fighting for roster spots as soon as next year. I actually didnt know Heredia was that young, but we have so much pitching already on the brink I just feel like offense is a more pressing imeddiate need. What do you think about Locke or Wilson?
They should be asking for Taillon and 1 of Hanson,marte, or polanco… if that is asking too much then dont make the trade.
I agree that is who they should be asking for, but I can’t see the Pirates making a deal like that. Maybe Taillon and a lesser piece, but not one of the three you mentioned unfortunately.
Hanson + Marte seems pretty fair to me, if Taillon and Cole are untouchable. I don’t worry about Jace Blocking him if i can get Hanson. Hansons the better prospect. Move Jace off the position or move him up a level.
If the Pirates would be willing to give up Marte and Hansen for Headley, you would have to think that deal would have been done yesterday. In my opinion you never worry about blocking players. Injuries, promotions, lackluster play and trades can all take care of that.
I agree and im sure if they haven’t already asked they will and should, but realistically they should settle for no less than a hanson or polanco centered trade even for both.
I agree. The majority of the Padres talent at the ML is young and they have a ton of ML average replacement parts in the upper minors. Now is the time to go for upside talent evenif it means accepting players that wont be ready for 3 years.
exactly we have a nice amount of depth of major leaguers now we need all star type guys.
Really hope Byrnes holds out for a great haul. I think it would be a bad move to trade him for less than a Latos type return.
I dont think he will pull a latos return…. but could get close
I can’t see him trading him unless he does. Lots of buyers lined up. I just hope he doesn’t play his hand to long and miss out.
If I were Cashman, I would try and get this guy. He is a switch hitter and his splits away from Petco are pretty good (.299 BA & .819 OPS) The Yankees need to get younger, A-Rod’s best days are certainly behind him. This would be also be an investment for the future.
Headley would hit 25 hr’s and have a batting average in the 320 range playing half his games in Yankee stadium.
The homerun Headley just hit was great!!!!!!!!!
GOING TO THE O’s
I would be shocked if the Yankees let this guy slip through their fingers.
They have to give up the prospects to acquire him as a temporary starter 1st of all before he slips through their hands and there are many teams out there who need headley as a FT starter, not just for a couple of weeks, then relegated to a backup.
Headley is one of the finer 3b around, teams are willing to get into a bidding war over him and some teams that need him have far bettr pieces available. nothing will slip by anyone.
well they can get him now then trade him in the off-season.
Here’s hoping it’s more the fleecing of the reds than the red sox deal.
With Taillon, Hansen, Marte, and Polanco the pirates are an obvious match if they truly want Headley. The question is which of these prospects would they be willing to trade. The Padres are probably going to ask for Tailon and Hanson, thepirates are probably not willing to trade either. Should the Padres accept just apackage built around Marte with lesser prospects thrown in? I hope not.
I could see the mariners being in this. They definitely have the pieces to make a deal.