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Quick Hits: Beltran, Prospects, Cano, Nationals

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | October 15, 2012 at 10:49pm CDT

Chris Carpenter and Ryan Vogelsong will oppose one another at AT&T Park a few hours from now. Here are some links from around MLB to keep you entertained while waiting for the NLCS to resume…

  • Giants assistant general manager Bobby Evans told John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle that the team had approximately a dozen offseason conversations with Carlos Beltran's agent, Dan Lozano. That's a stark contrast from Beltran's statements, who said the two sides never talked. Shea speculates that Lozano didn't convey any of the communication to Beltran, who is of course, squaring off against his former teammates in the NLCS.
  • Matt Eddy of Baseball America has a rundown of 10 minor league deals that reaped significant Major League benefits, including Gregor Blanco, Brandon Moss and Quintin Berry.
  • Mets 2011 draftee Bradley Marquez will undergo surgery on his left knee after sustaining an injury playing football at Texas Tech, writes ESPN's Adam Rubin. The Mets allowed Marquez to continue playing football in order to facilitate the signing of their 11th-round selection.
  • Alex Rodriguez may be in the midst of a disappointing October, but at least he has a long-term contract in place. Robinson Cano, an offseason extension candidate, may have diminished his bargaining power by hitting poorly in the postseason, Joel Sherman of the New York Post writes. Plus, Rodriguez's struggles probably won't make the Yankees over-eager to spend a comparable amount on another struggling player.
  • The Nationals are set at every infield position but first base heading into the offseason, Adam Kilgore of the Washington Post writes. Ian Desmond could be in line for an extension this offseason, and Kilgore suggests a six-year, $45MM contract could work for both sides. It sounds as though there's a good chance Adam LaRoche will re-sign in Washington, even if he declines his side of the mutual option on his contract.
  • Giants GM Brian Sabean said coaches Ron Wotus and Dave Righetti would be excellent managers given the opportunity, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reports (on Twitter). Wotus is the Giants' bench coach and and Righetti is the team's pitching coach.
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  1. rainyperez

    13 years ago

    I would think Wotus would be a great manager and I’m basing this on his 14 year experience with the Giants organization. As a bench coach he has seen the best and worse of the Bonds, Baker, Alou, and now Bochy eras.

    As for Rigehtti I hope he stays with the Giants team for as long as he can. One of the truly great pitching coaches of the league.

    Reply
  2. $17049574

    13 years ago

    I really doubt the Yankees would let their best player go on the basis of one bad playoff. That’s something the Red Sox would do…

    Reply
    • Lionel Bossman Craft

      13 years ago

      True but its been awhile since they made the playoffs anyway lol.

      Reply
    • Ben_Cherington

      13 years ago

      We dont even need to make the playoffs, we just let people go!!!!

      Reply
    • LazerTown

      13 years ago

      Especially since without cano O’s probably take division.

      Reply
  3. Ausome7

    13 years ago

    Does anyone else dream of Robinson Cano in a different uniform.

    Reply
    • Lunchbox45

      13 years ago

      french maid?

      Reply
      • Ausome7

        13 years ago

        I would prefer “would u like fries with that”

        Reply
      • MeowMeow

        13 years ago

        Is this what Yankee fans fantasize about?

        Reply
  4. East Coast Bias

    13 years ago

    Is this a joke?

    Cano’s one of the best hitters in the game. To think a slump, albeit very untimely, is going to deter the Yanks from giving him a large contract is just plain silly.

    I don’t think Swisher and Granderson will be brought back, but Cano is the definition of irreplaceable in that lineup.

    Reply
    • Lunchbox45

      13 years ago

      I dunno… so what he has a long track record of success, he’s in a 1 week slump at the worst time… he may have to settle for a one year deal in my opinion.

      Reply
      • NickinIthaca

        13 years ago

        It’s a shame more people don’t understand sarcasm…

        Reply
        • Lunchbox45

          13 years ago

          its an acquired taste

          Reply
    • Slopeboy

      13 years ago

      It’s not a joke- it’s Joel Sherman!

      Reply
    • therealprof 2

      13 years ago

      I completely agree. I think Swisher is punching his ticket out of town with his continued playoff inadequacy and if Granderson doesnt figure out how to not swing at a bad pitch out of the zone, he will be bait at the trade deadline next season. I would love to bring back Ichiro for next season, but on a 2 year deal max. Gardner healthy and Ichiro in right is amazing corner defense. I have no answers for the A-Rod issue though, that is going to be a terrible situation for a long time to come. Cano is a MUST sign, I would prefer an extension until he is 35 at the latest, but we know how Boras gets down.

      Reply
      • UnknownPoster

        13 years ago

        Cano is not getting only 4 years(after the option). He is looking at 8-10

        Reply
      • LazerTown

        13 years ago

        Career Postseason Batting
        Jeter: .308/.374/.465
        Arod: .265/.372/.467
        Granderson: .236/.342/.472
        Cano: .226/.273/.431
        Swisher: .167/.284/.300
        1. It annoys me to no end how arod is thrown under the bus over and over again because he “can’t perform in the postseason”, yet his obp and slg are almost exactly the same as Jeter’s. They both have had years that they have been great, and postseasons that they would rather forget.
        2. I also don’t think that swisher punched his ticket out of town. Sure he didn’t help his value, but the playoffs is only a small portion of a season. For alot of teams on the bubble swisher is one piece that could help put them over. Fact of the matter is that he is that he still puts a consistent 3.8-4.0 war, and puts up a wrc+ of around 125. Had the Yankees not had swisher they probably only slide into the wildcard slot or worse. There are tons of teams that would love to have swisher, and Yankees is one of those teams.

        Reply
        • MB923

          13 years ago

          The fact that Jeter’s slugging percentage and OPS is close to A-Rod’s either looks really good for Jeter, or really bad for A-Rod, considering A-Rod throughout the course of their career obviously has been the better slugger between the 2 and it’s not even close

          Career regular season/potsseason OPS

          Jeter- .829/.838
          A-Rod – .945/.838

          .838 is a pretty good OPS, but it’s pretty low for a guy who has a career regular season OPS of .945, although Jeter still has played more than 2x the amount of postseason games as A-Rod (158 to 74).

          Reply
          • Spit Ball

            13 years ago

            Players numbers generally go down in the postseason. Arod’s 107 point OPS+ gap is pretty normal. You face better pitchers in the playoffs. Not only do teams with high ERA’s not make the playoffs. Teams use their top 3 or 4 starters and drop their fifth starter. Teams also use their high leverage rerlievers more.

            Reply
            • MB923

              13 years ago

              There are still many power players who have postseason numbers similar to their career numbers (Bonds, Manny, Beltran to name a few). Even Chipper has decent career postseason numbers.

              A-Rod is a below average postseason performer (except for 2004 and 2009).

              Later on (unless someone else does it by the time I have more time), I’d be interested in seeing Jeter and A-Rod’s postseason stats since they’ve been teammates which woudl be from 2004 – 2012

              And you are correct about facing better pitchers. I’ve mentioned that before (not on here though). But the fact that Jeter can hit good pitchers in the postseason and A-Rod for teh most part cannot, tells me A-Rod is under a Lot of pressure. He succeeded in 09 and in 04, not in the other years though.

              I am not saying Jeter succeeds all the time, but I think he’s a much better postseason performer than A-Rod.

              You can point out they have similar numbers, but Jeter is not a power hitter. A-Rod is.

              Reply
            • $17049574

              13 years ago

              It’s also cold as hell in some places, which affects the numbers.

              Reply
          • LazerTown

            13 years ago

            I’m aware of that, but the usual discussion is that arod never performs in the postseason, and that is simply wrong. He doesn’t do as good as he normally does, but his obp/ slg are still in a good range.

            Reply
  5. Kiru Shan

    13 years ago

    I hoping the Yankees don’t pick up Cano’s option and the Jays sign him. He is a great hitter.

    Reply
    • Tko11

      13 years ago

      Wishful thinking…a playoff slump doesn’t take away from him being the best offensive 2B.

      Reply
    • Lunchbox45

      13 years ago

      agreed.

      also felix hernandez will have a bad spring training and be traded to us. and then joey votto won’t smile in a team photo and be put on waivers, picked up, by you guessed it, the blue jays

      Reply
      • crashcameron

        13 years ago

        Otay! it’s 92-93 again!! (you forgot Jake Peavy and Dan Haren)

        Reply
    • Spit Ball

      13 years ago

      Oh really? How you gonna do that when the Jays won’t go longer than 5 years on contracts.

      Reply
  6. NWDC

    13 years ago

    Nats should either re-sign or replace LaRoche with a comparable bat and sign a friggin top tier closer that can get 3 outs with a 2 run lead in the biggest game in franchise history.

    Reply
    • Christian Franklin

      13 years ago

      He was gassed(Storen). Kimbrel nor Chapman coulda got it done on three consecutive days work, qalong with still getting his mojo back after missing most of the season. Davey should have went to someone else to begin with.

      Reply
      • bravesfan 6

        13 years ago

        Kimbrel and storen is not comparable

        Reply
        • NickinIthaca

          13 years ago

          It’s true…. Kimbrel broke down from overuse in game 162 last year, not game 5.

          Reply
          • bravesfan 6

            13 years ago

            Ya 37 games this year really compares to 79 games in your rookie season .. im a braves fan #1 but a dc native and i have watched both alot and kimbrel is hands down a better closer and almost every team will take kimbrel over their closer

            Reply
            • NickinIthaca

              13 years ago

              I’m not saying one is better than the other. Just both we’re tired from overuse at the time they blew the game. Kimbrel should never have had 80 appearances last year, and there is no reason to use Storen who was just back from injury in 3 consecutive high stress appearances.

              Reply
              • bravesfan 6

                13 years ago

                Clippards falling apart made davey have to use storen.. if he hadnt used storen and they lost every nationals fan would have been mad that they didnt use their best pitcher in the bullpen to try and close it

                Reply
      • Phillies_Aces35

        13 years ago

        Closers working 3 straight days isn’t uncommon nor is it an excuse.

        Kimbrel did it twice.
        Papelbon did it four times.

        Two elite closers right there.

        He blew a game… it just happened to be the wrong one.

        Reply
    • np2392

      13 years ago

      As a Mets fan, I can only hope every other team in our division spends a large chunk of its payroll on a closer. Look how that turned out for the Marlins.

      Reply
  7. vtadave

    13 years ago

    Agree. Yankees should pick up Cano’s option and trade him.
    Signed,
    The Dodgers

    Reply
  8. MeowMeow

    13 years ago

    Noooo, Adam, come to Boston D: We promise we won’t trade you after 5 games this time!!

    Reply
  9. NYPOTENCE

    13 years ago

    Cano is the best All-around 2nd basemen in the game he’s not going anywhere.

    Reply
    • User 4245925809

      13 years ago

      There are 2 more that have the defensive range he does and are more sure handed. Cano makes errors like he did last night.. he gets too ahead of himself. If he would slow down just a tiny bit it would help.

      Many give him too much credit for that lightnig quick transfer and call it an asset, but it leads to errors and sometimes just lost double play chances that do not become errors.

      Offensively? Yep.. he is the best for sure.

      Reply
      • ARod's Ring

        13 years ago

        That’s why he said All-around. Defense plus Offense… he is the best.

        Reply
    • Cards_Fanboy

      13 years ago

      Daniel Descalso might disagree

      Reply
  10. BlueSkyLA

    13 years ago

    The Yankees won’t spend big on free agents again because of A-rod’s struggles this year? Is Joel Sherman a comedian?

    Reply
    • User 4245925809

      13 years ago

      Yes.. He, Shaugnessy and Cafardo from the Globe teamed together would make a terrific 3 Stooges act.

      Reply
      • BlueSkyLA

        13 years ago

        They should get together with TJ Simers at the LA TImes. He could be Shemp to the other three.

        Reply
        • User 4245925809

          13 years ago

          “Larry, Moe and Curly-Joe are the funniest guys I know”

          Lead in song to the greatest cartoon of all time to me.. Moe Howard, Larry Fineberg and Joe Besser voices for the cartoon characters…

          Reply
    • Blue387

      13 years ago

      Sherman wrote an article arguing the Mets were the biggest loser of the big Red Sox-Dodgers trade.

      Reply
      • BlueSkyLA

        13 years ago

        And what was the gist of that argument, I wonder? FWIW, we have to endure a similar columnist for the LA Times. He also takes ludicrous positions.

        Reply
  11. SolidarityInSF

    13 years ago

    Sabean should give Righetti or Wotus an opportunity to manage… Namely by getting Bochy out of town.

    Reply
    • northsfbay

      13 years ago

      The Bochy haters never give up.

      Reply
      • SolidarityInSF

        13 years ago

        He gives us no end of ammunition.

        Reply
  12. Daniel T

    13 years ago

    I have a feeling that Morse is moved to 1B this off-season and the Nationals go after a CF to allow for Harper to move to a corner spot

    Reply
    • Natsfan89

      13 years ago

      If that’s what they decide to do I hope they go after Upton instead of Bourn

      Reply
  13. Henduck 2

    13 years ago

    If the Yanks aren’t sure about Cano, they could always pull a Burnett and send him to Pittsburgh.

    Reply
  14. MB923

    13 years ago

    Chris Carpenter is 3 for 4 in the postseason
    Robinson Cano is 2 for 32

    Yes it’s a SSS but I thought I’d point that out anyway

    Anyway, it’s pretty sad Sherman thinks that Cano’s thusfar 7 game slump (I can say 5 game actually because he a had a hit in back to back games of the LDS) is going to cost him money on his next contract

    I know they are different positions, but if it didn’t cost CC Sabathia or CJ Wilson money on their contracts, it shouldn’t cost Robinson Cano money on his

    Reply
  15. Don Coupons

    13 years ago

    I wonder if the Nats have any thoughts about getting rid of Espinosa, or at least making him compete with Lombardozzi for the starting job? I like Espy a lot and his defense is pretty excellent, but his inability to put the bat on the ball hurt the team a lot this season. I can recall quite a few incidents where we just needed him to hit a fly ball or a grounder to the right side and he whiffed on big hacks time and time again. It seems like Lombo might be a better fit as the lineup could use a solid contact hitter rather than 15 more homers and 100 more K’s.

    Reply
    • Natsfan89

      13 years ago

      Going on what I’ve heard I think what Davey hopes will happen is what happened with Desmond. This was Desi’s third full year in the league and he broke out. Next year will be Espinosa’s.

      A bigger question I have is why they haven’t helped him adjust his left handed swing. It’s way too long. If he shortened it up like he does when he hits right handed it would cut way down on his K’s.

      Reply

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