2:12pm: The A’s are paying $650K of Cespedes’ salary but are getting back $1.8MM from the Red Sox for Lester’s salary, tweets Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle.
11:35am: The teams have announced the trade. Nightengale tweets the exact figure that will be heading to Oakland: $650K.
10:09am: Dave Cameron of Fangraphs reports another wrinkle in the trade: Cespedes’ contract calls for him to be non-tendered at the end of his deal (if he is not first extended) in order to assure him early free agency, and he therefore is ineligible to receive a qualifying offer following the 2015 season (Twitter links).
9:14am: The Red Sox are sending under $1MM to the A’s in the trade, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today. Meanwhile, J.J. Cooper of Baseball America tweets that the value of the Competitive Balance pick that Boston receives will be roughly $800K.
8:54am: Passan tweets that Oakland is also sending a competitive balance draft pick to the Red Sox in the trade, and Boston is sending cash to Oakland. The A’s landed the second pick in Comp Round B in last week’s lottery.
8:49am: The Athletics have acquired Jon Lester and Jonny Gomes from the Red Sox in exchange for outfielder Yoenis Cespedes, according to Alex Speier of WEEI.com (Twitter links). Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports first reported that Lester had been traded to an unknown club, while Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston.com first connected the A’s and Lester earlier this week.
The addition of Lester will give Oakland an incredibly formidable rotation for the balance of the regular season, but perhaps more importantly, in the playoffs. Lester, who has posted a 2.52 ERA with 9.4 K/9, 2.0 BB/9 and a 43.2 percent ground-ball rate, will join fellow trade acquisition Jeff Samardzija, free agent signing Scott Kazmir and homegrown star Sonny Gray atop Oakland’s rotation.
It’s possible that the struggles of Jason Hammel, acquired from the Cubs along with Samardzija back on July 4, prompted A’s GM Billy Beane to aggressively pursue another sizable rotation upgrade. While the loss of Cespedes will hurt Oakland’s lineup, the team can afford to part with some offense; the A’s rank first in the Majors in runs scored, sixth in on-base percentage and eighth in slugging percentage. Gomes won’t replace Cespedes’ power or his .256/.303/.464 batting line, but he’s a formidable opponent against lefties, having slashed .302/.400/.431 against southpaws in 2014 and .279/.379/.495 in his career.
Cespedes will bring the Red Sox a much-needed outfield bat, though he’s only under team control through the 2015 season due to a clause in his contract that allows him to forgo arbitration and hit the free agent market after his initial four-year term. He’s slated to earn $10.5MM next season — the same sum that he is owed in 2014. John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle tweets that Cespedes recently voiced a disinterest in playing center field with the A’s, but he did so through a teammate rather than by approaching manager Bob Melvin directly, which likely didn’t sit well with the team (Twitter links).
The pair of blockbuster trades by Beane signifies a clear “all-in” philosophy on the 2014 season. Oakland has traded its best prospect (Addison Russell), a 2013 first-round pick (Billy McKinney) and one of its most dangerous bats (Cespedes) in an attempt at the most dominant pitching staff it can muster for the playoffs. There will be no compensation if (or, perhaps more appropriately given his likely price tag — when) Lester departs as a free agent, as baseball’s collective bargaining agreement prohibits players who did not spend the entire regular season on one team from receiving qualifying offers.
For the Red Sox, who hope to re-sign Lester as a free agent this offseason, this trade at least gives them a chance, perhaps a slight one, to have Lester and Cespedes on the same team in 2015 when the club takes another shot at contending. Beyond that, the addition of a draft pick is an interesting wrinkle, as it allows Boston to enjoy the best of both worlds, in a way. GM Ben Cherington could have kept Lester and extended a qualifying offer in hopes of recouping a draft pick if Lester signed elsewhere in free agency. Now, the Sox will get a bonus pick regardless (albeit a slightly later one), and they also are guaranteed a middle-of-the-order bat for the 2015 season. It wouldn’t be surprising to see Boston engage Cespedes in extension talks either, though that is nothing more than my own speculation at this juncture.
Photos courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
pastlives
ok that’s kind of weird, but good for Boston I think? Honestly this is a weird trade, Lester and Cespedes have been worth the exact same amount this year according to BR. The A’s took a bat out of the middle of their lineup, and the Sox get 1 year of him. Why?
Fangaffes
Yeah. Who wouldn’t want someone with a .303 OBP? OK, probably Billy Beane, for one.
mauryfeldman
I don’t like this deal for Boston much. Cespedes is only under contract for a year. They get a draft pick, somewhere around 35-45, where the probability of success is already significantly reduced. It doesn’t seem to me that this helps them much for the future. Couldn’t they have gotten legit prospects from another team?
I wonder if the Masterson trade really hurt them here. The Cardinals had younger, more projectable players to offer.
It’s not that Cespedes isn’t a good return for Lester per se, it sjut appears to be a short term fix, which is weird for a team moving veteran talent.
Littledoc
They can trade Cespedes for prospects too this offseason or next year tradeline if they have a bad 2015
Danielle Rennifer
He might be a better option to be traded once again to a team needing help on offense like the Seattle Mariners by still hanging on in the wild card race. Remember Mark Langston who was traded from the Matiners to the Expos and then to the Angels 24 years ago?
John 53
That’s exactly what I was thinking/hoping! I wonder what kind of prospects it would take to get vespers from Boston
Danielle Rennifer
Wonder if it’s Cespedes and Napoli as Patrick Kivelhan, Gabriel Guerrero, John Hicks, James Paxton/Taijuan Walker, and either Corey Hart/Logan Morrison/Jesus Montero heading to Boston. Mariners should also look into Ethier or Kemp also to bolster the team since Ackley or Saunders would be perfect to come off the bench & give someone a day off or so.
John 53
How about smoak, Franklin, and Erasmo Ramirez instead of kivelhan and Guerrero
hediouspb
he’s the final piece in the offseason move for Stanton.
not_brooks
Oops. No prospect.
See Dave Cameron update.
gnats
wut.
GrilledCheese39
Red Sox win this deal by A LOT.
MB923
Especially if Lester goes back to Boston.
gnats
Well, he’s not going to get a deal from Oakland. So Red Sox will win it anyway.
MB923
Still might stay on the west coast and sign with LA (either of the 2 LA teams)
paqza
It’s fantastic for him now contract-wise because the team that signs him won’t have to give up a pick – just money. That really opens up possibilities.
drlove33
I’m pretty sure a big reason why the Red Sox traded Lester was precisely because they could not afford to resign him. So I don’t think that’s really an option for them.
Metsfan93
I disagree. It could be the reason, but if Lester didn’t care about being a career BoSox, then the Red Sox did right here by improving their 2015 roster. Cespedes + Lester for ’15 is better than neither Cespedes nor Lester and just Cespedes. They’ve maximized their chances of competing in ’15.
drlove33
Sure, but it looks like just in ’15. Cespedes wants to hit the open market.
MB923
Saying Red Sox and “could not afford” together is like saying Rays and “spending spree” together.
drlove33
Times have changed in Boston and they’ve made it clear that they aren’t just going to resign their guys for however much that guy wants (we saw this with Elsbury last year, right after the world series no less). Maybe they could “afford” to pay him but the point is, they won’t give him what other teams can offer.
Spare Tire Dixon
Not necessarily. They may recognize that they CAN re-sign him and, with this season basically over, they may as well get something for him. For all we know, they have a handshake agreement to bring Lester back next season. Now they get Cespedes too.
GrayhawkAZ
That is what I think… They already have a deal in place… BUt Boston has been very public about giving 5 year deals to Pitchers in and around 30… We know how pitches now regress at this point (CC, Haren, etc)
Spare Tire Dixon
It’s a smart strategy if that’s the case. The Sox are done this year and Lester has a chance to go win a ring. They could get a basic agreement in place, shake hands, and reconvene this winter. Sox get a player (cespedes) for nothing basically and get their man (Lester) back.
gammaraze
“Sox get a player for nothing” … assuming they, in fact, have a hand shake agreement, and Lester honors it, then they got something for nothing. Otherwise, they have picked up Cespedes in exchange for a compensation pick. Supplemental 1st round picks in the last 15 years include the likes of Kelly Johnson, David Wright, Adam Jones, Gio Gonzalez, Huston Street, Clay Buchholz, and Josh Donaldson.
Metsfan93
I would take Cespedes over most of those except Wright, Jones, and Donaldson, and Donaldson himself was developed by Oakland and less heralded originally.
Spare Tire Dixon
and a host of other guys who never panned out.
Jeff Scott
Exactly.
Robby L. Sklarz
If Boston was willing to pay Lester what he wanted, he’d still be there. I don’t think he’s going back.
The_Porcupine
I agree. They kind of burned a bridge and it will be tough to get both sides back on the same page together.
ishkabibble
Don’t believe its a burned bridge at all. Though unpleasent, this whole thing never got contentious between the two. Lester’s already stated he’d re-sign w/ Boston if the numbers worked out.
The_Porcupine
Stating it to the media is public posturing though. Seriously, the Sox offered less than half of what he was after in salary. That is a pretty big gap to try to fill in on a compromise.
Metsfan93
We don’t know what Boston’s latest offer would be. 4/70 was the starting point. If they’re willing to go 5/120? Who knows..
Eric 26
Players and teams always say they are open to resigning them the year after a trade, but it never seems to happen.
Kieta Vivian
Lester was the guy who claimed during the offseason he would give the Sox a hometown discount. Then negotiations start and the FO finds out that he was lying and wants over 20 million a year. Its not entirely the teams fault here.
Metsfan93
20 MM per is a hometown discount. He didn’t lie. Greinke signed for 6 @ 24.5. Hamels for 6 @ 24. Lee for 5 @ 24. Hernandez for 7 @ 25, 5 @ 27 in new money, Verlander 7 @ 25+, 5 @ 28 in new money, Kershaw signed for 7 @ a little over 30. 5/110 or so is still a discount, and he would’ve signed that in Spring Training apparently.
Jeff Scott
I disagree. Notice who they traded him to– THE A’S. Not exactly a big market team. No way they are going to commit 40% of their payroll to one pitcher for the next 5 years. And they are the only team with an inside track on him. If they had traded him to a big market team I would be more concerned.
NomarGarciaparra
Am I the only one not that overwhelmed by Cespedes? By no means do I think the Red Sox lost this trade, but what’s the big deal with Cespedes? He has power and a cannon arm, but aside from that, his numbers aren’t that impressive.
Mike Adamson
Agreed his name is bigger than the actual player but I still think it was a good trade for Boston seeing Lester is a UFA
tesseract
Look at Josh Harrison, now look at Cespedes. Josh Harrison may be having a great year but to me he is no more than a Bench player and will not likely ever perform better than this year. Cespedes is having a good year but could be on the cusp of a breakout. The guy has plus tools across the board, why would you not like a player like that on your team?
Henry Limpet
What’s with the slam on Josh Harrison out of no where? What does he have to do with anything?
tesseract
It’s just an example. J-Hay is a good player but I wanted to show a point that players are more than just stats. They have good numbers but who would you rather have, Cespedes or Harrison? Cespedes is going to be a beast for years to come
GrayhawkAZ
Cespedes is 29… Breakout would have already happened by now I would have to think… The name is certainly more than the figures he puts up… What was interesting is how Cespedes was a negative WAR defensive player his first two years and his year has changed..
tesseract
Cespedes is 28 not 29, but has only played baseball in the US since he was 26. Thinking he could breakout is not unreasonable. And defense metrics fluctuate year by year, that’s why they are not as reliable as offensive metrics
paqza
He’s 29, but he’s only had 2.6 years in the Majors. Plenty of guys break out after that. And even his floor is pretty respectable.
ishkabibble
Turns 29 October 18th.
mauryfeldman
Boston can dominate the home run derby next year.
paqza
I think he’ll like the Monster. And considering the problems the Sox have had in their outfield so far, a Céspedes/Betts/JBJ alignment with Nava getting some playing time looks pretty good.
Bob Bunker
Cespedes talent is hard to judge because his first year he had a 326 BABIP which is slightly lucky but not incredibly so and a 137 WRC+ and hit 23 HR in 130 games with half in the giant park in OAK. Then the next two years his BABIP fell to .275 which is either unlucky or his true BABIP level and his WRC+ fell to 102 and 113 while his ISO stayed pretty much the same.
I think in Fenway he should be good for 30 HR and if his BABIP goes back up he could be good for 275/330/800.
Steve_in_MA
He’s a +3WAR guy. Ellsbury was a +3WAR guy. He’s almost as impressive as his name. The Sox can extend him this offseason for 4 years at $60MM and have a quality LF locked in for the next half decade.
NomarGarciaparra
Where is all this WAR coming from? Because his offensive numbers sure don’t look that impressive. Also, I think he should play RF at Fenway. That cannon will be somewhat wasted in the small LF.
Jaysfan1994 2
He gets lots of time in the #3 hole, put any person there and they’ll provide WAR.
Steve_in_MA
His BA and OBP are unimpressive, but he’s an OPS+ player. He can hit 25 dingers in Oakland, so that’s more like 30+ in Fenway. And then he’s got great speed and one of the best arms in the MLB. The WAR is there. If he improves on plate discipline, he might even get to +4.
Bleed_Orange
How so? Are they built to win next year? If not then they lose Lester and are right back in this same predicament next year with Cespedes who will probably have less trade value than Lester.
paqza
They can always resign Lester. The A’s certainly won’t.
Bleed_Orange
True but will they? If they were honestly going to really try and resign him wouldn’t they have given him a REAL offer before he hit the open market. Now there will be teams like the dodgers, cubs, and yankees driving up the price and the front office has already said they don’t want to sign a 30 year old to a contract that is 5 years +
paqza
The Cubs would be a good options. I don’t see the Dodgers or Yankees in on him due to payroll concerns, but they’re definitely possibilities.
Mike Adamson
Unless Oakland wins the World Series!!!
karkat
Because we get Cespedes for one year?
karkat
Because we get Cespedes for one year?
rct 2
Yeah, that’s my thought, too. Sure, the As might only get Lester for a few months, but they also get Gomes and it costs them a year and two months of Cespedes. It seems like a pretty even deal to me.
NomarGarciaparra
My thoughts exactly. I was pretty excited hearing names like Joc Pederson and other legitimate prospects. I was interested to see people’s reaction to this and I was surprised that everyone thought it was such a big win for the Red Sox.
Cespedes is a big name, but his performance doesn’t quite match the name and he’s only signed through 2015.
Spare Tire Dixon
If the A’s win a World Series with this rotation, it could be a true Win-Win trade for both clubs. Especially if Lester returns to Boston in the offseason
mlbaustin
Not really. He’s a FA after next season and there was no way the A’s were going to sign him. Odds are they were going to trade him in the off season since they probably could afford to offer him, Shark and possibly Kazmir a qualifying offer after 2015. The A’s get two playoff pieces for now in exchange for one year of Cespedes. I like this deal for both teams.
The_Porcupine
I think that if the A’s end up winning the World Series, they will win the deal. That seems to be the only thing Beane sees right now. He has a chance to win it and is willing to go all in. And let’s be real, Cespedes is good but he isn’t all that. There was no way the A’s were going to resign him after next year, but Sox have the budget to do so. No doubt Beane is gambling, but it is definitely entertaining.
Danielle Rennifer
Especially the Mariners in a toss up if they can acquire Cespedes & Lackey for Walker, Pike, Guerrero, Kivelhan, Hart/Montero/Morrison/Smoak (one of those four players), and PTBN.
Frittoman626
Nobody wants Hart, Montero, Morrison, and Smoak. They’re all terrible.
Danielle Rennifer
Stefan Romero & Julio Morban would be better option than those four mentioned. Phillies in a three team trade might be a good way to make the deal accomplish if Lackey & Byrd, Napoli & Byrd, or Cespedes & Hamels going to Seattle work out well.
williemaysfield
The Red Sox could have had prospects. Instead they get one year of cespedes who’s a free agent after 2015 without QO attached. It’s a win but not a big win.
MB923
I saw this one all along
– Said no one ever
I Believe We Can Win
After the shark trade and how Hammel has struggled I did see beane looking for another arm. But definitely not Lester.
BrettLawriesnewesttattoo
3 years of Cespedes for a few months of Lester and Gomes? I don’t get it.
Christopher Soto
Actually only 1 1/2 yrs…..Cespedes can file for Article XX(B) free agency after 2015.
BrettLawriesnewesttattoo
aw, ok. never heard of that. will have to look it up.
Donskoy
How? It looks like that applies to players in the minors. Doesn’t Cespedes go to arbitration after 2015?
Sam Froomkin
Does Arb apply to contracts to international players? I thought they are just signed outright to major league contracts.
Donskoy
Baseball Reference says free agent at 2018, but that might be automated. These places tend to be better informed than I.
Metsfan93
Everything I’ve seen says he can be a FA after next year.
williemaysfield
He becomes a free agent after 2015. It’s one of the reasons he signed with the A’s. No one else was willing to give him free agency after 4 years.
Metsfan93
It appears its in his contract for Oakland to non-tender him after 2015, making him a FA without a QO (you can’t offer a QO and non-tender someone simultaneously)
Donskoy
Cespedes is going to stop being cheap real soon, so maybe Beane is freeing up his resources to extend some of his guys and/or lock up one of their pitchers.
anon_coward
and a chance for the one of the lowest payroll teams to go to the WS
TRAPstar
What is their payroll? I feel it is much higher this year than usual with Jim Johnson making $10mil for example
Spare Tire Dixon
They want to win a World Series and dealt from a position of strength (offense) to stack their rotation for the playoffs
JCurrie39
Wow, didn’t see this coming. I think it’s a poor move for Oakland. Cespedes for a half season of Lester. I’d pass but that rotation will be sweet!
Realist 2
A’s are playing to win now. They are loaded in the farm system with pitching.
raltongo 2
Yea but giving up cespedes? Wow..guess Billy’s got a plan that I’m not quite understanding now
Metsfan93
The plan where he couldn’t re-sign Cespedes after 2015 and is going for gold this year when he already has the best team in MLB? Yeah, that plan seems solid.
Spare Tire Dixon
A’s need a stacked rotation to contend with Detroit and company in the playoffs. It’s been their missing piece all these years since 2001, when they get bumped out in the ALDS
raltongo 2
Yea but giving up cespedes? Wow..guess Billy’s got a plan that I’m not quite understanding now
Snoochies8
Actually they don’t have very good pitching depth in their system right now. All of their healthy top pitching prospects are in Stockton or Beloit (basically, single-A)
Their strength in the system right now is up the middle (Pinder, Robertson, Jesus Lopez, Yairo Munoz) and corner infield (Ryon Healy, Renato Nunez, Max Muncy, Matt Olson, Matt Chapman)
Phillyfan425
Wow…just wow.
The only way the A’s win this deal (in any idea) is if they win the WS this year.
karkat
The A’s have already won this deal.
MB923
Nah man, gotta look beyond this season. Your Sox won it.
karkat
For this return I would’ve rather just kept Lester
Ted
Why? Based on Lester’s comments, you’re just as likely to re-sign Lester as if you’d kept him. The only difference is whether you have him for the rest of this season which is a lost cause. Might as well have Lester and Cespedes in 2015 than just Lester.
Phillyfan425
Ehh, Boston gets a 1 year of better player than Gomes, plus a draft pick (yes, you would have gotten a slightly higher one for Lester). You can also turn that into (at worst) another draft pick if you offer Cespedes a QO after 2015 (if he doesn’t re-sign with you). So, at worst, you’re getting 2 draft picks for Lester and Gomes.
calamityfrancis
there is no draft pick compensation for cespedes.
karkat
The A’s have already won this deal.
Spare Tire Dixon
They don’t need to “win” this deal. They want to win a ring. They are not competing for “best trade” with Boston.
Phillyfan425
The team as a whole might not care. But the GM should. He should care whether he wins or loses deals.
Spare Tire Dixon
Sure, but the two teams are trading to fill different needs. If the A’s don’t win the Series is their trade a “failure”? If the Sox don’t re-sign Lester in the offseason, is their side a loss? Right now the trade makes sense for both sides. Beane made the deal he needed to make to stack his rotation. They can’t measure the success of a trade based on how it works out for Boston.
Phillyfan425
No, you measure a trade by how it impacts you this year and going forward. So unless the A’s win a WS this year, how can you call it anything but a failure? They were already the best team in baseball, so this move was made solely for the playoffs. And if they fall in the playoffs, then the move wasn’t worth it for the GM (i.e. it didn’t improve the team enough to win it all). Plus, he gave up a draft pick and can’t obtain a new one by offering a QO to Lester.
So if they don’t win the WS, he gave up a good player with a year of control, a draft pick, and the potential to get another draft pick (had they offered Cespedes a QO after 2015) for nothing.
paqza
The playoffs are a crapshoot but if your front 4 is Lester/Shark/Kazmir/Gray, it really helps your chances. More importantly, the A’s revenue stream is tied to attendance and even making the playoffs and advancing to the LCS will dramatically boost revenue this year and next year, giving Beane more money to work with. It’s definitely not a failure unless the team just doesn’t make the playoffs.
Yamsi12
A’s got hosed.
karkat
A’s gave up the last year and a third of Cespedes for an express ticket to the 2014 World Series.
MB923
Oops. Should have kept Cespedes after all 🙂
williemaysfield
Cespedes has a .760 ops the past two seasons. He has power but is below average at getting on base. The A’s lose out on next season and the comp pick in 2016 when Cespedes signs with another team.
paqza
They’re on different spots on the win curve. The Red Sox have a bad outfield and wanted to improve it and the As have scored the most runs in baseball and are also the best team in baseball. It’s not bad if it lets them get further in the playoffs; at the end of the day, the goal is for them to win a WS and this gets them closer.
Metsfan93
The A’s couldn’t have offered the comp pick anyway.
Carl Langley
Lester, Samardzija, Kazmir, Gray. GG Tigers.
GrilledCheese39
Gomes isn’t headed to Boston. He was in Boston, now apparently in Oakland.
GrilledCheese39
Nevermind lol.
driftcat28
shocked
Zach 20
Jonny Gomes is already on the Red Sox.
Edit: They fixed it.
sean m.
NOO!
anthony castaldi
When is Cespedes a free agent?
pastlives
after next season I believe.
sdsny
Holy cow…I thought prospects would be going the other way. Cespedes? For a 2-month rental pitcher and Johnny Gomes? Boston won this one.
MB923
Oakland wouldn’t have had the prospects. They only had 1 elite one and he was traded for Shark.
MB923
Poor Cespedes. Goes to bed last night playing for the best team in the AL. Wakes up and is now on one of the worst teams in the AL.
Curt Green
Red Sox: First to Worst. I knew last year was a fluke.
karkat
I’m really hoping the Sox are planning to flip him (+Lackey maybe?) as part of some deal to actually get good prospects from someone. I hate this deal otherwise.
MB923
Why would you hate this deal? It’s a win for Boston easily.
karkat
Because we get Cespedes for 2015 and a worse draft pick than we would’ve gotten if Lester had left via QO?
MB923
Well can’t they offer a QO to Cespedes next year (barring a trade or extension)?
karkat
Sure, but that’s a paltry return still. I can’t believe that Ben couldn’t have coerced a prospect out of someone over the next several hours
JacobyWanKenobi
I feel like an extension with Cespedes and reunion with Lester is the endgame here. Who knows though.
karkat
If those both happen, then I’ll like the deal.
MB923
Actually I just read Cespedes cannot be offered a QO. Hope the Red Sox knew that.
karkat
The deal keeps getting worse! 😀
Bob Bunker
I understand where you are coming from but if the idea is to contend in 2015 (and it better be) then this trade makes perfect sense. Fix one of the biggest holes on the team with an All Star at 10 million dollars. Overall, I understand wanting a Joc Pederson or Josh Bell or Piscotyy but none of those guys are proven and Cespedes is only 28. 2 things could make it even better.
1. Extend Cespedes to a deal that includes the 2015 salary to lower the AAV hit.
2. Resign Lester in the off season with some of the savings from getting an All Star OF at 10 million.
karkat
If this trade facilitates us extending Cespedes and we re-sign Lester, then I’ll like it.
Bob Bunker
Yeah I can’t imagine them doing this trade without at least planning to go all in on either Cespedes or Lester long term. Maybe trading for a proven All Star rather then prospects shows the front office is done pinching pennies and wants to to buy some stars to allow the young guys to develop around!
karkat
I’ll believe it when I see it
Bob Bunker
Just have to have more confidence in the front office man. Worst case they get a 1 year of Cespedes and 2 draft picks in the top 50 for a half a year of Lester + Gomes. Best case they have both players for the next 6 years starting in 2015 and two top 50 draft picks. All you have to do is Believe!!!
timpa
I think they come out with better than the comp pick for Lester with a chance to still sign Lester. Not sure what prospects other teams were offering.
I don’t think (never thought) Lester was significantly better than Greinke when the Brewers traded him to the Angels and they got a 50-75 ranked prospect in Segura.
calamityfrancis
just came out that there will be no draft pick compensation for cespedes.
mlbaustin
That’s an interesting thought. I think this deal makes sense for Oakland more than Boston, so that would make sense. Maybe for a near ready MLB starter. Seattle could use him, maybe they build a package including Cespedes for Walker?
timpa
I wonder if he could end up on one of the world teams in the NL. Wonder how much in terms of prospects would need to be added with him to get Cole Hamels. Ruben Amaro Jr loves HR hitters.
Metsfan93
Jonny Gomes is already in Boston..
randyfastman
better hope Oakland wins this year… especially when Lester re-signs with Boston in the offseason.
onemanrevival
Why would the A’s trade one of their top hitters?
Brendan Purcell
Cespedes is replaceable (Gomes/Fuld platoon)….Lester is not. Team gets much, much better.
bravo_84
I’m assuming this can’t be the whole deal… I mean seriously??
Jim Low
Awful deal for the A’s
Chris Lattier
Cespedes is a FA after 2015 (next year) and A’s won’t resign…meanwhile Boston could’ve received controllable young players to rebuild with going forward and all they get is Cespedes who has a under 800 OPS two years in a row now….they could’ve done better IMO.
Allen
Want more please…
ztoa
Wow…
coreybishop
There we have it. Nothing is going to get done today.
Mike M 2
must be some decent prospects going back to Oakland, otherwise it seems too good to be true. Cespedes? Thats insane.
griffey9988
Wow I’m surprised the A’s would give up part of their big league club for him. Interesting trade for sure, I thought they would be trading farm guys. Cespedes being involved is surprising.
Mike 80
Milone will end up getting traded.
0vercast
Milone was traded to the Twins. Woohoo
Mike 80
Yup, he wanted out of Oakland, should have never been sent down.
I was hoping he would end up in DC or Baltimore (Baltimore could use him).
Gladiator
What does this mean for the future of Mookie Betts?
Metsfan93
If he hits, he’ll play. He’ll force himself into the lineup. Cespedes is only currently under contract through 2015 anyway.
sourbob
Head a’splodes.
Billy Bacus
Boston won this deal! Lester is probably going back to Boston during the winter
DarthMurph
Yea because there’s a ton of precedent for that happening…
$5427573
I wonder if the A’s will turn around and trade for a bat to replace Cespedes. Albeit a lesser bat
Bleed_Orange
I actually hate this deal for Boston… unless they really think they can turn it around next year and get back to the playoffs Cespedes means nothing to them. Unless they are going to flip Cespedes for something else.
MaineBaseball
Cespedes is under control for 3 years…
Bleed_Orange
Should be just 1 more year. Signed a 4 year deal with Oakland.
Chris Lattier
this guy gets it.
Tim Richer
I’d expect Millone to come over too. Probably nothing else though.
SteveB
This is why the Red Sox are smarter than the Yankees. And I’m a Yankees fan since the mid-1960s. The Yankees could’ve traded Cano last year and since they don’t have what it takes this season, they should be dealing Robertson.
EV
no, you’re not.
SteveB
I’m not what? A Yankees fan? Since 1965, bucko.
zachw
Bold move Billy. Bold move.
Curt Green
That is why I like Billy. You know he will do SOMETHING. Being a Twins fan, I appreciate that.
Chris Lattier
FA after 2015…
Metsfan93
Can he opt out of arbitration? I don’t know the details of his contract but I think he can.
Chris Lattier
wait arb eligible after 2015
MaineBaseball
He’s a free agent after 2018 lol
Metsfan93
Cots has him listed as a free agent after 2015. I think his contract stipulates he can bypass arbitration after the four year deal
randyfastman
Jim Bowden says Sox have 3 1/2 years of Cespedes… this is confusing..
jljr222
No, he’s not. Do a little research. He is signed for $10.5MM in 2015 and eligible for FA after that season. Don’t quote Baseball Reference my friend.
williemaysfield
Free agent after 2015. They can’t offer arb. That’s why he signed with the A’s.
asovermann
He signed a major league deal, he can opt into FA in 2015.
MaineBaseball
Yeah, didn’t know that. Oh well. They can either resign him or deal him later.
gpf0r
baseball-reference.com says he is not a free agent until 2018 at the earliest.
Earliest Arb Eligible: 2016, Earliest Free Agent: 2018
MaineBaseball
Yeah, sorry. BR let me down 🙁
Roy-Z
Baseball is the best.
coreybishop
Good pitching beats good hitting every time. The A’s made the right move if they intend to contend for a World Series.
Brandon 20
Yeah but you have to have some good hitting to back up that good pitching…trust me I’m a Reds fan, we know this all too well.
Brendan Purcell
Most runs in the league, 18.2 combined oWAR from their position players (excluding Cespedes)…is that not enough to back up the best rotation (maybe 2nd) AND bullpen in the league?
Brandon 20
Oh I agree that this was the right move but disagreed with the general statement.
Brendan Purcell
True, that’s why I think the main premise of all of the pro-Boston arguments is wrong. Oakland can replace Cespedes’ offensive production. You can’t really replace Lester’s top-of-the-rotation ability and his post-season experience. Especially considering Oakland’s 2014 goal.
Brendan Purcell
And also, I think this move gives the A’s more free agency flexibility. $10.5M (plus JJ’s $10M) are off the books…and only a couple guys are UFA….will allow the A’s to certainly replace Cespedes if they wish.
Casey S.
What? The A’s have been going wild with trades this year. Next thing you know cats and dogs will start being friends.
williemaysfield
My jack Russell says no.
Curt Green
My shih tzu says yes.
Realist 2
Pretty much.
Hello it's Dick again
So this year when the Oakland bats go cold in the playoffs they can lose to the Tigers 2-1, 2-1, 3-2
Chuck Mungall
Cespedes will hit HRs by the bucketfull in Fenway.
Cmac1300
Agreed Cespedes will be a force at Fenway. Red Sox win the trade BIG
Curt Green
Not if A’s win world series.
Littledoc
man Cespedes carried this team last 2 years in offense and now when they have a shot for WS they trade him. Baseball is unfair sometimes.
Brendan Purcell
how exactly did he “carry” them this year or last? I would have to say Donaldson and Moss are doing most of the carrying.
DarthMurph
I guess this means we’ll be competing in 2015? Or Cherington didn’t do his homework on Cespedes? Why couldn’t we get Milone too?
GrilledCheese39
Are you really complaining about this deal? You hosed the A’s.
DarthMurph
How? We only get Cespedes through 2015. He’s a good player, but what are we going to do with him?
Chris 53
Just wow.
Trock
Try to lock him up? He is young and will rake in Fenway. Getting a guy like that and sending a pitcher who will be a rental for the A’s is a pretty good deal IMO. The real question is what it will take to lock up Cespedes. He could demand quite a bit of money signing a contract before he hits FA.
Mikenmn
rev, i think you are perhaps the best red sox commenter. tell me why you don’t like the deal. i’m interested
Fangaffes
Why only 2015? Isn’t that when he become arb eligible, but still under control?
EDIT: Never mind. I misses that last paragraph about the unusual clause in his contract.
Fangaffes
A hidden benefit might be that it gives them a leg up in signing fellow Cuban, Rusney Castillo. Which, in turn, might make it easier to extend Cespedes. Just a thought.
DarthMurph
That’s a good point.
stevekc43
Lester will be a Yankee next year. Oakland’s just renting him for a few months but they gave up a promising young ball player in Cespedes to get him.
mike 81
As a Phillies fan I wish we had a real gm like Boston’s. He won’t move Hamels.
Jay fan since 77
No one wants to pay the price!
paqza
Amaro asked for 3x what Hamels is worth – it’s not surprising the Dodgers weren’t willing to play.
tmengd
How can Gomes go to Boston? Wasn’t he already there? Wouldn’t he be going to A’s instead?
Elsalvaje
Gomes worth less than a batting glove, do basically the trade was Lester per Cedpedes. Good deal for Boston, now we gonna see a Cespedes hitting over 40 HR easily
Travis2014
I like A’s in this trade better. Cespedes is pretty overrated and a free agent after next year. Lester and Gomes will help them a ton down the stretch and make the easy WS favorites. I think the Red Sox got the bad end of the deal if they don’t resign Lester.
MaineBaseball
He’s a free agent after 2018.
Seamaholic
Cespedes? No, next year.
MaineBaseball
Weird. Is he not subject to arbitration like everyone else?
Bleed_Orange
No foreign players get it written into their contracts because they are rookies to MLB but not rookies to professional baseball
MaineBaseball
Ahh, gotcha. Guess I never realized that.
Bleed_Orange
Same contract as Japanese players, he is ” DFA” (or something like that) after his contract 2015 to be come a free agent.
Mike M 2
How is is the bad end of the deal. Losing 2 players who’s contracts are up on a last place team for atleast a full season of Cespedes?
Mike M 2
In other words, both teams can win a trade.
Travis2014
I think they would have been better off with prospects…but we will never know what they were offered, and prospects are a gamble. Still one year of Cespedes is risky on a team that may have no chance…though they can trade him at next year’s deadline.
If anything it is a fair trade. No way the A’s got hosed.
Bleed_Orange
Because Cespedes only really helps them if they plan on contending next year. He’s contract isn’t cheap and will hinder the Sox on the free agent market. Other teams were most likely offering top 100 prospect or multiple players with lots of upside that would come at cheap control for 6 years.
MaineBaseball
Not gonna lie but I never saw this coming…..ever.
MaineBaseball
Not gonna lie but I never saw this coming…..ever.
Seamaholic
Gotta love the gambler’s instinct in Beane … going ALL out this year. But man, if they run into a little hitting slump in the playoffs, they could be shutout four straight by someone like the Tigers.
cbags22
I don’t understand why team wanted to get Lester when he said he would sign with the Red Sox in FA.
Bleed_Orange
He said he would be open to signing with them. If they red sox had any interest in offering him fair market value they would have done so already. Count on Lester being in another city next year.
Seamaholic
Red Sox won’t sign him. He’ll be a FA with no QO attached now, which means 5-6 years, $22-23m per. Red Sox don’t sign contracts like that anymore, especially for pitchers. He’ll be a Dodger or Cub or some such.
Tvators
He said he’d consider signing with the Red Sox, but by the red sox offers they probably won’t be considering signing him.
Realist 2
Oakland is sending down guys who are no. 2-3 starters on most teams. Lester rental is for one year. Teams with Oakland’s payroll need to go all in to win when they have the chance. Great trade.
Seamaholic
Which guys are those? Oakland has one of the worst farm systems in baseball. I hardly think they’re sending down 2-3 starters!
Mike M 2
Probably referring to Milone. Straily ain’t on the team anymore. Not sure if Milone is a 2 or 3 though. Actually, he’s definitely not.
Realist 2
Milone was the one. OK, maybe a 4-5. But if they lose Lester in the offseason they can plug in Millone or Pomeranz and still be fine for next season.
Realist 2
Pomeranz is good and I thought they had another guy who was tearing it up but can’t get in the rotation.
Cobby_Box
Oakland A’s Acquire Jon Lester, All Headlines.
gorav114
What what what? Seriously Cespedes for a two month rental, the A’s pitching was already good enough. They should not have sacrificed a middle of the order hitter. Great move for boston, Lester is a rental while Cespedes will impact the lineup every day for several more years.
pastlives
for next year. he’s a free agent after next year.
Cubstein
Baseball reference suggests he is still controlled after his contract expires because of service time. Could be wrong.
pastlives
He’s not, I think that’s a mistake on BR, or maybe their system just doesn’t compute the 4 year contract thing.
Cubstein
You can sign a contract and still run into service time issues. Not sure how it affects international players though. For instance Schierholtz signed a free agent contract with the Cubs last year after being non-tendered by SF. After the one year contract, Cubs maintained service time rights on him and he had to go through arbitration.
Dave Y.
Yes, normally players are under control for 6 years. However, when Cespedes signed he signed for 4 years, which normally would mean arbitration the two years after, but it states in his contract that if he does not have a contract 5 days after the 2015 season ends, then he becomes a free agent. So, Cespedes is only under contract through the 2015 season, and will have to be given a new contract by the Red Sox or will be a free agent after 2015. Most teams were not willing to include that in the contract but the A’s did which was one of the reason he signed there because he wanted a short term deal of four years.
pastlives
He’s not, I think that’s a mistake on BR, or maybe their system just doesn’t compute the 4 year contract thing.
Alex Foltz
I don’t know if the A’s pitching was “already good enough”
Chavez is about to reach his innings peak and could unravel any minute. Gray will likely tire, and who knows about Kazmir tiring as well.
MB923
“Oakland is also sending a competitive balance draft pick to the A’s in the trade,”
Is that supposed to say Boston is sending it to the A’s or Oakland is sending it to the Red Sox?
karkat
Well Oakland is the only one that has such a pick out of the two.
MB923
As I said to Cubstein, sometimes these picks and trades and new CBA rules can be quite confusing.
karkat
Well Oakland is the only one that has such a pick out of the two.
Cubstein
Not sure if this is sarcasm but Boston does not get a competitive balance pick to trade away.
EDIT: I see the typo now. A’s sending a pick to themselves. I assume since Boston doesn’t get a pick it’s supposed to be A’s traded away to Boston.
MB923
Well I didn’t know that. All of these balance picks and new CBA rules can get quite confusing some time.
Cubstein
Not sure if this is sarcasm but Boston does not get a competitive balance pick to trade away.
EDIT: I see the typo now. A’s sending a pick to themselves. I assume since Boston doesn’t get a pick it’s supposed to be A’s traded away to Boston.
bravo_84
Did somebody promise the A’s a new stadium if they won the series this year??
Michael 27
Cespedes will be 29 years old next year, and is a 2-3 win player. He’s not the young stud you guys are making him out to be…
paqza
Agreed, but at the same time, he’s still the best OF option the team has right now for 2015.
Michael 27
Cespedes will be 29 years old next year, and is a 2-3 win player. He’s not the young stud you guys are making him out to be…
Ron Greenawalt
What an overspend ty Billie for pricing all the other small market teams out for the rest of the trade season
Ron Loreski
“Oakland is also sending a competitive balance draft pick to the A’s in the trade”
“Jonny Gomes and Yoenis Cespedes will head to Boston”
You need some coffee Steve.
KJ4realz
Holy wow. Did not see this. Wonder if the a’s will try to re-sign Lester. Damn. I like this for Boston
Tyler Claus Coners
why Cespedes?
nbgiant25
Oakland is sending a competitive draft pick to itself?
I know you’re trying to get this stuff up quickly, but you’ve got to be better than that…
nbgiant25
Oakland is sending a competitive draft pick to itself?
I know you’re trying to get this stuff up quickly, but you’ve got to be better than that…
tmengd
So can we expect the dominoes to start falling on pitchers afters this trade? I am glad it happened early in the day so there is plenty of time for more trades 🙂
stl_cards16
I’m not sure what other dominoes there are to fall? Price and Hamels seem unlikely to be moved.
karkat
I have a lot of feelings right now. Guess I’ll be rooting hard for the A’s this October
DarthMurph
M’s all the way!!!
rillyboy
not sure Boston won a lot on that one. Especially because Cespedes will eat some kind of money that could have been proposed to Lester this offseason. Yanks will jump in on Lester for sure!
Edit: sounds different wit the draft pick…
Todd Smith
I kind of hope Oakland makes a trade for David Price now, just to see that rotation together.
Alex Foltz
using what pieces? Lester?
Alex 18
What for? Their rotation is now Shark, Lester, Gray, Kazmir, Hammel.. That’s insane.
Michael 27
Let’s be clear. Beane was going to trade Cespedes this winter anyways. He’s really not that amazing
Phishfan52
Cespedes is one of most overrated players in the league. But if thats the best deal you can get you have to do it.
tesseract
Gomes will go to Oakland right? it says Boston
Frank Griffin
You guys need to slow down and proof-read your post. The A’s can’t send a CB draft pick to themselves. They also can’t trade Gomes to Boston, since he’s being traded the other way.
cjr45
Steve get some coffee quick before your next post.
cubs7691
Billy Beane aint playing around this year.
ugotrpk3113
It’s worth thinking about… If the ownership doesn’t want to pay large contracts, does having a very good OF at good value help ease their worries about offering Lester a larger contract? Especially if this fills a big hole in the organization (LF/RF).
Derpy
So Lester really had practically no trade value then?
Jeff McCoy
Steve, you may want to change the post read that Oakland is sending the pick to the RED SOX and that Jonny Gomes is going to the A’s, not the Red Sox.
Mikenmn
Cespedes and a competitive balance pick? shocking. What is going on in Oakland? Something in the water?
Sam Froomkin
Yes, folks, we get it, there’s a typo.
AstrosWS20
Gomes going to Boston? Oakland is sending a competitive balance pick to the A’s? Get your stuff together MLBTradeRumors.
javywoz
Beane has a great legacy of keeping Oakland competitive for a long time, but at some point, some time, you have to go for it. All those years in Oakland now and zero World Series titles. He’s giving them a great chance this year.
JR 4
This day and age is horrible. Don’t try to break a story unless you proof read and get it right. So much is wrong with how this is written. Oakland is sending their own pick to themselves as well as dealing a player they do not even have …
DarthMurph
Wait for tomorrow’s paper if you don’t want a breaking story right when it happens.
OUTFOXEM
Horrible for Cespedes. Came into the league with the A’s and was thriving, contributing to the best record in baseball night in and night out. Then he wakes up and is in last place in the AL East.
Sad.
sdsny
True. Player feelings are never considered when this time of year comes though. Part of the business.
OUTFOXEM
I know, but it’s still rough to see that happen to a big name player. It will be especially hard for him if the A’s win it all.
But I guess i shouldn’t feel too bad for him after all that. He’s making 10 million a year, so I’m sure he’ll be just fine.
dc21892
As a Sox fan I love this move way more than a deal that would have landed prospects. I’m going to miss Lester, but adding this bat for a player you were most likely going to lose is a great move.
Jim Johnson
You’d rather have a year and a half of a .767 OPS player?
dc21892
With the talent to be a superstar over middle of the pack prospects? Absolutely
mantistoboggan47
Not a superstar, slightly above average outfielder. Don’t forget he is 28 in Cuban years.
Jim Johnson
But middle of the pack prospects aren’t what Boston was asking for, and sure isnt what their fans thought they were going to get. They thought they were getting 2 elite prospects. Elite prospects are usually guys with the talent to be a superstar.
Instead what you got was a year and two months of a guy who, whatever talent he might have, since his rookie year, has basically been average.
Jim Johnson
But middle of the pack prospects aren’t what Boston was asking for, and sure isnt what their fans thought they were going to get. They thought they were getting 2 elite prospects. Elite prospects are usually guys with the talent to be a superstar.
Instead what you got was a year and two months of a guy who, whatever talent he might have, since his rookie year, has basically been average.
RiffRaff4U
Cespedes is on suicide watch………first to last.
Zac R.
Can people actually talk about the trade itself rather then the “typo”. Getting old.
OppoPower
You’re talking about it.
levendis
great trade for both teams. Boston gets an outfielder they desperately needed, that should excel in Fenway. The As get a front line starter they desperately needed to make some noise in the playoffs. Guys like Colon (from last year) and Kazmir, who pitch like aces, but really aren’t aces, can only take you so far. There is no dominant team this year, the As are pouncing on that opportunity to win it all, its admirable.
Guest 3664
Lester isn’t an ace either.
OppoPower
I beg to differ. Who exactly is a number one starter then?
Better
Yes he is, he’s now Oakland’s best SP.
levendis
yes he is. Is he Kershaw? no. But make no mistake about it he’s an ace for some time now. And lets not sneeze at his postseason record 6-4 2.11 ERA 1.04 WHIP (3-0 with a sub .5 ERA in the world series)
tonythered
Did I read that right? Cespedes and Gomes headed to Boston? Really?
fisk72
You read it wrong.
tonythered
Nope, I didn’t.
“In what will be a blockbuster deal, Jonny Gomes and Yoenis Cespedes will head to Boston. Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports…”
robbyb
Hammel or milone have to be gone soon.
Tim Richer
I thought for sure Milone would be in this deal.
TRAPstar
Bucs could use Milone. Hammell could be valuable to the Cards or Braves
Seamaholic
We’ll take Hammel back in Colorado. Loved him here. Have some nice hitters to choose from.
Dan Nys.
Cardinals trade for Cespy?
Dan Nys.
Allen Craig, Stephen Piscotty, Marco Gonzales for Cespedes?
AstrosWS20
A’s got robbed in this deal. They are going for broke this year. There’s no doubt that Lester, Gray and Szymajida (sp?) will be an amazingly tough three headed monster to beat in a 5 or 7 game series. The only question is, will they be able to score enough runs?
Seamaholic
Robbed is too strong. Cespedes actually isn’t that great, home run titles notwithstanding.
Better
I think the Sox got robbed
Brucellosis
Marlin Byrd’s there for the taking…
Baseball Legend
This is a very odd trade for the Red Sox. I’m not entirely sure I agree with the posters on here that the “Red Sox clearly won this trade.” In fact, I’d argue, that the A’s really did well here. Yoenis, is only signed through next season, which accomplishes absolutely nothing for the Red Sox since their team next year is prospect based. You mean to tell me, their best trade chip, and this is what they produce. Very strange and I have to wonder if they turn around and flip Cespedes and keep the competitive draft pick. I would have rather taken a single high end prospect.
And for those asking:
“Yoenis Cespedes Signing Reactions
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [February 13, 2012 at 4:45pm CDT]
The Athletics made an unexpected move today, agreeing to terms with Cuban outfielder Yoenis Cespedes on a four-year, $36MM contract. The agreement allows him to hit free agency after the 2015 season.”
robbyb
Flip Cespedes?
Seamaholic
Yep. Look for it at next year’s trade deadline unless the Sox are good next year, unexpectedly.
Jim Johnson
Def. a win for Oakland. The Red Sox and their fans thought they were getting at least two elite prospects for Lester. Instead they got a year and a half of an average outfielder.
mantistoboggan47
My thoughts as well. I am not sure what Cespedes adds to a mediocre team other than another win or two.
Baseball Legend
They probably lose 3 wins easily by trading Lester, so it’s a net loss for this season. Plus they are sending “cash”?
mantistoboggan47
Yeah, I just do not get it. If he was under contract for the next 6 years maybe it is a good deal.
Baseball Legend
They probably lose 3 wins easily by trading Lester, so it’s a net loss for this season. Plus they are sending “cash”?
Baseball Legend
It makes no sense whatsoever. Now that I had a few minutes to digest this, I have absolutely no idea what the Red Sox are doing. They are A++ in drafting. They are D- in trades. This has been their issue for years.
mantistoboggan47
That trade with the Dodgers worked out pretty good.
Baseball Legend
That was more Dodgers than Red Sox brilliance. It was a team that just exited a horrible period and needed a bold move.
mantistoboggan47
That trade with the Dodgers worked out pretty good.
Remember92
I think this shows loud and clear that the Dodgers, Pirates, Cardinals, or whomever just didn’t want to give up one or two A+ propsects for a rental. They can flip him next year or offer him a QO and get an additional comp pick along with the competetive balance pick they just received. So that’s two picks in the top 40 the next two years to try to hit pay dirt from their scouts.
Baseball Legend
Hmmm. Seems like a somewhat backwards way of doing it. I agree, that’s the likely result, it’s just taking the long way around.
Baseball Legend
Hmmm. Seems like a somewhat backwards way of doing it. I agree, that’s the likely result, it’s just taking the long way around.
Nathan Boley
I said yesterday it would have taken a blockbuster for me to be happy the Pirates didn’t trade for Lester. I’m pretty happy right now.
onemanrevival
Agreed. If they got Cespedes from Oakland, it probably would’ve taken Marte and Pedro + just to begin the discussion with us.
Mike Adamson
Way overrating Cespedes…. Who is a FA next year.
Baseball Legend
Wow. That’s seriously overvaluing Cespedes.
coldgoldenfalstaff
Can’t see why the A’s would do this, unless Lester re-signs. Which is pretty much impossible.
Seamaholic
Trying to win this year. Putting everything on their number and praying everyone stays healthy for 2 more months (and they can score enough runs to win three series).
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Beane doesn’t care, he smells championship!
Plus, he might sign that guy Castillo to replace the loss of Cespedes.
Darn, that Beane!
mike 81
Oakland needs to make a run at Utley now.
sdsny
Alright, all the internet editors are having a field day. We all know what the deal actually is. Give MLBTR a break, they’re probably working pretty hard today.
sourbob
Actually we didn’t know what the deal was. The Gomes error wasn’t confusing. But the competitive balance one made the while thing unclear.
OppoPower
I can definitely say that maybe they are, too.
InvalidUserID 2
“Banners fly forever” but this is a clear win for the Red Sox. They turn a question mark in the off-season into a productive bat under team control.
Bleed_Orange
Under team control for one season.
Bleed_Orange
Under team control for one season.
Rally Weimaraner
Wow definitely didn’t see this coming!
FishFan03
With Lester now in Oakland, hopefully the Marlins can pull off a trade for Tommy Milone
Bertin Lefkovic
Milone for Marlon Byrd or one of the other right-handed hitters currently available on the trade market to replace Cespedes’ bat? How about Carlos Beltran (switch-hitter) and a lot of cash (all of the money that he is due this season, plus another $20MM to cover 2/3 of the $30MM that is due him in 2015 and 2016) for Milone?
Bertin Lefkovic
I forgot that the As got Gomes in that deal. How about Milone and Gomes, who could platoon with Ichiro in RF, for Beltran and the aforementioned cash? Beltran is a huge postseason performer.
Alex Foltz
I’d do that, provided enough cash comes through. Mostly because of Beltran’s playoff bat.
Bertin Lefkovic
I will pay Beltran’s contract for the remainder of this season and pay $20MM of the $30MM that he is due in 2015 and 2016. Is that enough cash?
Alex Foltz
I saw that part. My “provided enough cash comes through” part was mostly because the A’s don’t like to spend much, so who knows how much they have to spend moving forward.
Although, the $10mil left on Beltrans after that deal would offset the $10.5mil that is freed up moving Cespedes.
Bertin Lefkovic
So do we have a deal?
Remember92
WIth Cespedes being a free agent after next year. Do the Sox try to extend him or flip him next summer? Interesting
OhioSox 2
He is under contractual control through 2017.
Remember92
He has an out in his contract since he played in Cuba. He is a free agent after 2015 per the obscure rule of playing in Cuba or Japan previously.
OhioSox 2
Yep — Just read that right after I typed that. Read somewhere that he had 2017 control but I guess they left out that important out clause nugget.
Red Socks
Will depend how their young guys (Bogaerts, Betts, Bradley, Cecchini, Vasquez, Ranaudo, Webster, RDLR, Matt Barnes, Henry Owens etc) are going, and whether they’re in contention
mkp
Only time will tell if it’s good for the a’s. My gut reaction however is that its a horrible trade for then. Rent a pitcher for not even half a season in exchange for a young player you can have as a cornerstone for years to come
Alex Foltz
cornerstone for *year* to come. He’s a FA after 2015 season.
mkp
Year, assuming they wont resign him. At least it’s a year longer than lester will be there
Chris Lattier
I’d rather have a better shot at winning the World Series this year than just have Cespedes around for 2015.
robbyb
I keep thinking the Os should trade Cruz. he has fizzled and could net a decent SP.. On the other hand, I also worry about their offense.
Zac R.
I think the Sox did good on this deal. They needed both an OF and a player with power and Cespedes fits both needs. The Monster should also fit perfectly with this swing. For the A’s, they’re going for it now and why not bring in one of the best playoff performers.
SierraM363
So much for the Red Sox not getting anything for a rental
Mike Adamson
They got another rental. Which buys them a year to do the same thing. Nice trade but not sure it’s better than getting top prospects. Unless they resign Cespedes.
d-blaqueqq
or they package him with some other pieces. Who know where they’ll be in a year.
d-blaqueqq
or they package him with some other pieces. Who know where they’ll be in a year.
yewed
that’s what i thought. If they don’t resign Cespedes or Lester
they basically traded Lester and Gomes for 2 draft picks.
Bertin Lefkovic
If Cespedes is as good as I think that he will be in Fenway over the next two months, possibly getting the Red Sox back into playoff contention, there is no doubt in my mind that they sign him to a very long-term extension this offseason. This is an OK deal for Oakland, a phenomenal deal for Boston, and a terrible deal for the rest of the AL East.
ztoa
How is it that RAJ couldn’t figure out a way to send Byrd and Lee or Byrd & Hamels for Cespedes?
Alex Foltz
RAJ would have had to eat 80% of Hamels or Lee’s salary for a player only signed through 2015 in Cespedes. That would have been an awful deal for the Phils.
northsfbay
The A’s wouldn’t want Hamels contract. Why the would the Philies want a rental like Cespendes?
ztoa
Look at the Phils prospects… not an OF in sight, especially a power bat from the right side. They’d lock Cespedes up. If RAJ had been trying almost anything to get Stanton for the past few years, why would he not want Cespedes?
Phillyfan425
I like Cespedes. But the Sox gave up two 2 month rentals for him (and Cespedes is only under contract for 1.33 season). You’re talking about Phillies giving up 3-7 years of control for 1.33 seasons of Cespedes. How does that make them any better 2-3 years down the road?
ztoa
They’d obviously attempt to extend him.
Phillyfan425
Ok, so attempt to sign him when he hits FA next offseason. He does no good to you before 2016, so why bother trading pieces who can bring you future value for a guy who you can sign in 1.5 years?
ztoa
Eh I guess, I thought Cespedes was a little younger, but really I’d rather have the Hitter than the Pitcher, since Cole counts for 24 MM until 2019.
Quikmix
if the A’s don’t win the world series, people are going to be second guessing this season’s trades for a long while. That said, Oakland has got to be the heavy favorites to win it all.
JJ 4
They still have Samaradzija, Kazmir, and Gray in 2015 and most of the roster.
Alex Foltz
I won’t second guess it. This is “our” year as an A’s fan, and I’m glad we are going all in.
It’s just gonna hurt really bad if “we” don’t win the WS, because it will be a LONG rebuild.
Jack Miller
I was upset that we were going to lose Lester…. now I’m a lot more satisfied, prospects are hit or miss but this guy could develop into a top ten player in the game. Now to find a way to bring Iglesias back.
Juve1216
It’s a good deal for both teams. A’s get Lester with veteran presence and playoff experience at the top the rotation and Boston get Cespedes who gives David Ortiz protection in the lineup and also will be there for the full 2015 season.
Juve1216
Also with a surplus of starting pitching, Bean can trade for an extra bat.
thebiggestever
I like this trade for both sides. Didn’t realize how overrated Cespedes is. Good player, but damn…..
Jack Miller
I was upset that we were going to lose Lester…. now I’m a lot more satisfied, prospects are hit or miss but this guy could develop into a top ten player in the game. Now to find a way to bring Iglesias back.
Better
Iglesias? I prefer X or Marrero
Jack Miller
Xander is a third baseman now. Iglesias could hit .240 and I would be happy because he is one of if not the best defensive shortstops in the game.
Mochi
Cespedes is a free agent after next year. He’s gonna be pretty expensive.
Jack Miller
Sox have always been good with the guys who sell jerseys, Papi, Pedroia, Varitek
tune-in for baseball
How about we sent you Iglesias back for Cespedes.lol
Jack Miller
Very funny. I would send you guys someone like Miller for Iglesias and a PTBNL.
Robby L. Sklarz
People are really in love with Cespedes despite pretty mediocre numbers this year. He will probably have a field day with the green monster though and his arm is clearly overkill for left field at Fenway.
d-blaqueqq
Him and JBJ in the outfield. No more sac flies against the Sox.
Bertin Lefkovic
If the Red Sox are smart, they will play Cespedes in RF.
Better
I’m pretty sure we just learned they’re not smart…
Bertin Lefkovic
I wholeheartedly disagree. This deal is going to be a game-changer for the Red Sox. As is, I was nervous about them trading Lester for Kemp, but Cespedes in Fenway scares me even more.
disqus_550Cx2R593
Good for Boston, but good for Oakland if they feel they are in a “win now” position.
airohpue13
If the comp pick and Cespedes is all Oakland is giving up then Oakland wins this deal. Cespedes isn’t a “young” player and he really hasn’t lived up to the hype yet. Let’s not forget that Oakland is essentially getting a first round pick in next years draft as well.
snowles
how is Oakland getting essentially a first round pick?
snowles
how is Oakland getting essentially a first round pick?
Seamaholic
Pick’s going the other way.
airohpue13
Ya, the comp pick is. Once Oakland offers Lester a qualifying offer in the offseason and he declines they will get the first round pick from whoever signs him.
snowles
Can’t offer QO for mid-season trades as of last CBA
airohpue13
Ahh. I didn’t realize that. Fair trade for both sides then and it’s a win for Lester because there won’t be a pick associated with signing him.
ugotrpk3113
Also – Can you image Gomes in LF at the Colosseum? Man will that be fun.
JJ 4
Why do I need to imagine? He was there two years ago
ugotrpk3113
I stand corrected.
Jay fan since 77
Boston won this deal! A two month rental for a big bat!
Seamaholic
Not that big. Check his numbers.
tune-in for baseball
True but he can bounce several balls off of the Wall in Boston. Will lead the league in 2015 for the longest singles because he hits it too hard to get doubles.
snowbladerp14
for 1 year
coreybishop
Looks like the A’s have an opening for BJ Upton now………. 😀
bigbadjohnny
Oakland looking to win it all this year.
PaulLePageDynasty
Congratulations to Oakland.
~Red Sox fan
vtncsc
Lester will be back. I think Boston comes out on top here.
PaulLePageDynasty
Congratulations to Oakland.
~Red Sox fan
Metsfan93
Another good thing here is that Oakland potentially swept the pitching market. It’s no guarantee anyone else gets traded, so for all the benefits Oakland gets, its also worth noting that nobody else is improving their pitching. Seattle and the Angels especially could use another pitcher, plus Toronto and Baltimore were supposedly in on Lester..
Curt Green
Awesome! Look out Detroit.
bobbleheadguru
Cespedes was a nightmare v. the Tigers.
Tigers were 1-1 v. Lester in the ALCS.
I like the deal in terms of a potential match up with the Tigers.
tune-in for baseball
Tigers 2-0 against Lester in regular season
karkat
Given the stipulation about the contract on Cespedes, this is a terrible deal for Boston. We get one year of Cespedes and a worse draft pick than we would’ve gotten if we had just done the QO thing?
OhioSox 2
Potentially two draft picks with Yoenis leaving after a QO…trying to look at the bright side haha
snowles
“Only players who have been with their clubs for the entire season will be eligible for compensation.”
d-blaqueqq
2015?
snowles
I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s traded again before the end of the day 🙂 But yeah, he will get the QO offer after next year, though it’s more likely to be a long-term deal instead.
d-blaqueqq
Yoenis + Lackey + Prospects= ???
Better
Hopefully me feeling better about Lester leaving…only 1 guy makes that happen
OhioSox 2
Yoenis is a FA after the 2015 season, IF, he opts out.
snowles
Good call, I thought the opt-out was this fall.
OhioSox 2
Thank God it isn’t haha otherwise this would have been a massive fail of a trade.
DempseyK
Cespedes is locked through next year also, so he will fetch a comp pick if he signs with a different team during the 2015-2016 off season.
tune-in for baseball
A good chance to sign Lester this winter, too.
vtncsc
Maybe he’ll enjoy his stay, do well, and Red Sox will sign him?
Spare Tire Dixon
Why is this bad? They move a guy who is facing free agency anyway, in a lost season. For all we know, they have a gentleman’s agreement to re-sign Lester in the offseason and now they have gained Cespedes essentially for nothing.
Better
I like the way you think
karkat
What the A’s will get out of Lester this season and postseason is way more than what the Sox will get out of Cespedes. Lester was worth way more than this alone, and we gave them a lefty-killer too?
Baseball Legend
I have to admit, so people are putting way too much stock in Lester’s comment on “possibly going back.” I’d say there is a greater than 70% chance he signs elsewhere at this point. There will be nearly 15 teams clamoring for his services. Even smaller market teams like the Royals could be players and the Red Sox will twiddle their thumbs and maybe offer less.
Better
IMO, it’s 50% Red Sox and 50% somewhere else. They’ll offer big money, he wants to be there, it’s familiar…
Baseball Legend
I have to admit, so people are putting way too much stock in Lester’s comment on “possibly going back.” I’d say there is a greater than 70% chance he signs elsewhere at this point. There will be nearly 15 teams clamoring for his services. Even smaller market teams like the Royals could be players and the Red Sox will twiddle their thumbs and maybe offer less.
Baseball Legend
Exactly. I see your avatar, so you’re a Red Sox fan and you’re thinking correctly. At this very moment, there has to be another trade in the works to flip Cespedes. There is a dearth of power bats this season and pretty good demand. Perhaps another team couldn’t match up with the A’s so the Red Sox made this move with advance knowledge they had a taker elsewhere. It’s a backwards way of doing it, but not unprecedented. Still though, on paper, this makes no sense whatsoever and the more and more time I have to digest this, I have to ask.