All three of the Dodgers’ highly-paid, veteran outfielders — Matt Kemp, Andre Ethier, and Carl Crawford — have cleared revocable waivers along with pitcher Josh Beckett, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (via Twitter). Infielder Hanley Ramirez, however, was claimed (which, of course, does not mean he will be changing teams).
While several of those players may be useful to another contender, a claim has always seemed unlikely given the large sums owed to Kemp ($107MM), Ethier ($56MM), and Crawford ($62MM) after this season. Beckett is much more affordable, particularly since he is on an expiring contract, but has had injury issues and more importantly would not seem to be a realistic trade candidate in any event.
Though Dodgers GM Ned Colletti has made clear that he has no intentions of dealing away Kemp — who, in any event, has been an important contributor of late — it is now at least hypothetically possible that something could come together on one of the three Dodger outfielders over the next several weeks.
i would trade hanley just because of his poor defense.we would miss his bat but not his glove. made me sick seeing him on defense
His bat has been avg this year as well. I’d say trade him. Since Gordon has been playing Solid 2B you can call up Guerro and put him in SS while Seager gets more experience.
either way dodgers need help at SS i cant watch many dodger games but seeing hanley glove last night man made me sick and they werent even hard plays
Yup, simple plays he can’t make. Perfect example also the play that he made and blow Kershaw’s perfect game.
i heard about that and i also heard he has like what 12 Errors not that bad but also not that great
I’m not sure what you have been watching to call his bat average. His bat has been top 25 in MLB this season and he’s the 2nd best hitting SS by a pretty wide margin. While his glove definitely holds down his overall value, he is still easily a top 10 SS with the potential to be top 3.
Tend to agree. I just hope the Dodgers don’t do something ridiculous like offer him 6/120. Where are we supposed to put Gordon, Guerrero, Arruebarrena, and eventually, Seager? Early candidate for worst off-season free agent contract.
i think hanley glove is the reason why he doesnt even have a contract and i bet if dodgers give him one it wont be something hanley likes and hanley might be better off with a team that need either a DH or 3rd baseman
The dodgers will give him a qualifying offer. Great pitching teams cannot deal with Hanley at SS. As much as I love him.
Gordon 2nd Base batting 1st
Guerrero and Seager 3rd and shortstop
Arruebarrena utility??? is he a head case?
Keep Kemp and get rid of Eithier/Crawford
Puig, Pederson and Kemp outfield
Need better hitting catcher and pitching depth. This should have been Zach Lee’s time to shine.
Glad I’m not a GM….but I think that a different GM is long overdue.
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I think Ned has done just fine as GM. I mean, he is not perfect, but at least he has been able to put together a winning team since ownership has freed his hands.
The problems the Dodgers have are not as bad as everyone thinks. They are not hurting for money, so the contracts of Kemp, Ethier and Crawford are not really killing them like they would a team like San Fran. Ned has built up a a pretty decent farm system these past few years and has signed such players as Ryu and Puig, not to mention Guerrero and Arruebarrena.
Hanley is going to be a test of how good a GM Ned is. I personally don’t want to see Hanley field another ball in Dodger blue, but if the price is right I am fine with giving him an extension.
I’m just thinking that even though there is money spend if you start adding up the $ spent on players that do not contribute to winning = poor management. The same could be said of other types of business….e.g.hypothetically if I were a stockholder in the Dodgers would I be happy on the profit in terms of wins for the money invested? I don’t think I would be. But I totally respect your point.
I totally get that. I think that the idea is that as a whole the team is winning, arguably despite the bad contracts. Consider to that the bad contracts came at a time of transition for the club. They wanted to make a splash and win now, without compromising their chances in the future. The trade with Boston is a perfect example. I think we need to wait another couple of years to see how good Ned and the Dodgers really are. Like I said, Hanley is going to be a real test.
I think that we are pretty much in agreement. It’s fun to be a fan (since about 1960) and do some second guessing. I’m really excited about some of our prospects. I’m also glad that we kept Kemp. Sure would help if we could possibly add a SP ideally if we could bring someone up….maybe Reed????? now Paco’s down
That was embarrassing yesterday. one of the most hyped games of the year for me and the bums pulled off a masterpiece. From hanleys errors to puigs idiocy. Ethier is done. I wish they could just release him, swallow the money and bring up joc and turn Crawford into an expensive pinch runner.
Hanley has DH written all over him. If only his lack of range were the only issue, then he could take over 3B, but everyone also holds their collective breaths whenever he makes a throw. The only issue I see with him moving to 3B is that’s where Seager eventually projects. He can handle playing SS now, but he’s going to outgrow the position soon.
I think his future could be in left. Remember the butcher that Ryan Braun was at the hot corner before they shifted him into the outfield?
I was thinking that too, but it wouldn’t be with the Dodgers.
His glove is not that bad. -0.9 DWAR, -11 DRS this season. Bad, but not outrageously bad, like Matt Kemp: -2.8 DWAR, -23 DRS. Ramirez has the 6th highest fWAR and bWAR in the MLB this season and had the 2nd highest fWAR and bWAR in the MLB last season in only 300 ABs.
Any word on the team(s) that claimed Hanley?
Probably will never know. Irrelevant anyway, as he’s not getting traded.
Could be multiple teams, the two I see making the most sense: Atheltics and Brewers
brewers dont need a 3rd or a SS though unless they move hanley to 2nd and A could use him if they DH him
A’s, Brewers, Mariners, Yankees are all possiblities. Given that Hanley is an impact bat with less than one year remaining I can see almost any contender putting in a claim.
perfect teams would be the yanks because of the bad IF play and mariners because they have no DH.
Hanley is actually terrible defensively himself. (Based on UZR)
i was just thinking that when i post that but i think yanks would welcome his bat even if he cant field
Yankees have loads of infielders. Doubt they were one of them. Though assuming he becomes a FA I can certainly see them going after him in the offseason.
They have loads of IF but very few that can hit like Hanley.
All of them can field better then him including Jeter.
Yeah but as bossman said, all can field better than him, even Jeter.
not surprise none of the OF got claim because of their price tag but i could see them added in a trade if dodgers eat like 60% of their contract
The fact that Kemp, Either, Carl Crawford and Beckett cleared wavers, shows you that they don’t have much trade value.
either that or no one want their contracts and kemp should have trade value have you seen what he done since the all star break
Contracts are part of a players trade value. If a player does not get claimed, they have zero trade value as is. A team can eat money to increase a players value to other teams.
well it’s more like they don’t want the player at their contract price but might be willing to give up a non roster player(s) or other waiver cleared players to exchange. So they still have trade value, just not the same value as a pre deadline trade,
Are you saying they are only tradeable if the Dodgers take a bad contract back? In that case, sure you could trade them, but there isn’t really any value. I’m sure the Phillies would trade Ryan Howard and his contract to the Dodgers for Ethier and his contract, but that really isn’t adding value to the Dodgers.
it shows you that they all have no trade value unless the dodgers kick some money in
Marlins probably claimed him
The Dodgers should trade all those expensive contracts to the Red Sox for Rubby, Allen Watson and spare parts in preparation for a run to the World Series with a bunch of bearded idiots in 2015.
I hear Allen Watson can really bring it
Blue-chip stud that Mr Watson.
I’m just hoping they can unload Ethier and Crawford for beans! Callup Joc and Guerrero. Have Joc and Van Slyke split time in the OF and have Guerrero give some competition to Hanley. They need a spark. Hope they snag an arm off waivers too.
I was at the game last night. So disappointing. Erisbel Arruebarruena can play great defensive SS but with little offense. Guerrero has no real range for SS and not sure he’d be an upgrade on defense from HanRam. I’d go with EA for the sure defense. Seager is not ready, and he’s our future 3B.
how about platoon Arruebarruena and guerrero the rest of the season and then in the off season figure out what spot they best fit
Sure, but only if we trade HanRam. No sense if having all that money sitting on the bench. He can also be a streaky hitter. If he gets on a hot streak like last year, you’ll want him in there and then do a defensive substitute in the later innings.
I think that either Crawford and or Eithier(s) days are numbered. Joc Pederson will be in the outfield he might be the spark they need.
dodgers right now need pitching and a SS who can make the easy out more then hitting right now.last night game would of been alot different if hanley didnt make those silly errors
Arruebarrena is a wizard with the glove. I wouldn’t mind him being a blackhole in the lineup if he can solidify the SS position. It would mean moving Hanley to 3B, but the move will need to be made eventually.
but that would take away from uribe and his good glove. hanley was making silly errors while uribe made some good plays.
It would, but Hanley is still a middle-of-the-order bat that’s needed in the lineup as often as possible.
Hanley is 23rd in the MLB in Fielding Percentage… And 24th in Innings played for a qualifying SS…
Call me crazy but if Hanley does leave, I’d like to have an experiment of Darwin Barney at SS. Even though he was really bad offensively this year, he can sometimes provide some offense and will consistently make good defensive plays. Plus Barney was a Gold Glove winner.
He’s playing SS for ALB, so the Dodgers are looking in that direction. I think they’re leaning towards Barney and Erisbel for late inning defense this year and if one can swing a decent bat they get the job.
dodgers have lost 3 pitchers this week. Seems to me if they need help anywhere its the pitching staff. Ramierez will probably DH in Anaheim with Turner at short. Or perhaps it’ll be Van Slyke at DH.
I would LOVE to see the Astros be a dark horse and pull Kemp away. They CAN afford him and he would be a bat that would catapult them into being contenders next year!