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Brewers Fire Ron Roenicke

By charliewilmoth | May 3, 2015 at 9:24pm CDT

The Brewers have announced that they’ve fired manager Ron Roenicke. The team says it will announce his replacement at a press conference at 10:30am Monday. The Brewers will not make any further changes to their coaching staff at present, Adam McCalvy of MLB.com tweets.

USATSI_8526874_154513410_lowresThe Brewers posted a solid 342-331 record in four-plus seasons with Roenicke at the helm, and he led the Brewers to an NL Central division championship in 2011. The team also had winning records in 2012 and 2014, although it collapsed badly down the stretch last season. It exercised its 2016 option on Roenicke in Spring Training, and GM Doug Melvin said less than two weeks ago that he and owner Mark Attanasio weren’t even considering firing Roenicke.

The Brewers were off to a dreadful 7-18 start this season, however, that led to plenty of reports and speculation about a major shakeup within the organization. The team began its year with four straight losses and hasn’t gotten back on track, dealing with an injury to star catcher Jonathan Lucroy and subpar performances from a number of key players. The Brewers did, however, win their last two games, perhaps suggesting (as the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s Tom Haudricourt tweets) that they had already decided to fire Roenicke before this weekend.

USA Today’s Bob Nightengale (via Twitter) and others have already speculated about the possibility that Craig Counsell, who has worked with the Brewers front office since retiring as a player, could be Roenicke’s replacement. There’s also been speculation about former Twins manager Ron Gardenhire, although SB Nation’s Chris Cotillo tweets that Gardenhire will not be replacing Roenicke.

“This has been a difficult start to the season, something that we certainly didn’t anticipate,” says Melvin. “We appreciate all that Ron has done for our organization, and he has handled his duties with great professionalism and dedication.”

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  1. John

    6 years ago

    Yikes, kind of saw that one coming…but stinks when anyone loses their job. Looks like Brewers are about to unload.

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    • NickinIthaca

      6 years ago

      Yeah – I mentioned two or three days ago that he seemed like he was looking to get fired. The writing was on the wall

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  2. Tommets

    6 years ago

    “relieved of his duties”

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  3. josh0909

    6 years ago

    I wonder how much they’ll take for Jean.

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    • Craig Jacobson

      6 years ago

      Considering he’s cheap and still under control, probably more than he’s worth.

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    • Brewblaz

      6 years ago

      No don’t move him, he’s part of the solution.

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  4. mypoint02

    6 years ago

    Probably trying to figure out if they need to blow the whole thing up and start over before the trade deadline rolls around. If that’s the case, Melvin needs to be shown the door too. He’s more responsible for the current state of affairs than anyone else.

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    • Wainwrights_Curveball

      6 years ago

      Maybe I’m one of the few but I’d have to disagree. He’s done a pretty good job with this team, especially since the NL Central has actually been a pretty tough division the last 4 years. Plus throughout his tenure, the moves he’s made have overall been good (the Sabathia Trade back in 08, signing Kyle Lohse, acquiring Carlos Gomez, etc). He needs help from a payroll perspective but he’s never going to get it. That’s why this team will make the playoffs once in a while.

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      • Hoosierdaddy92

        6 years ago

        Sabathia trade isn’t looking so good now. He sold high on Matt LaPorta yes, but very low on Michael Brantley it turns out

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        • Wainwrights_Curveball

          6 years ago

          Brantley wasn’t the centerpiece of that deal, LaPorta was. Given that LaPorta failed miserably and it took nearly 5-6 years for Brantley to develop into the hitter that he is today – and mind you he needs to put up a few more good seasons like last year to prove he’s for real – i’d still say the Brewers came out ahead there. They got what they wanted from Sabathia and in hindsight, the cost wasn’t too exorbitant. I’ll give Melvin an A for that trade. Risky, but it worked out.

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    • Brewblaz

      6 years ago

      Yes blow it up..Gomez,Garza,Lohse,K-Rod,Lind,Fiers,W.Smith
      Should get 2 high end prospects at least for Gomez

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  5. 24MountainCreeks

    6 years ago

    Ron Gardenhire

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    • Roger

      6 years ago

      The Brewers are in a bad spot. I doubt a guy like Gardenhire would take that position. Most managers know they can only do so much.

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      • yetipro

        6 years ago

        Many, if not most, coaches actually prefer to take on jobs where the team is rebuilding or has lowered expectations. They’re often given more time to develop the structure that they want, instead of needing to win right away.

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        • Roger

          6 years ago

          I’ve never found that to be true in pro football or baseball.

          Teams that are rebuilding have to hire first time coaches or 2nd tier coaches.

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          • yetipro

            6 years ago

            Never is a strong word! How about Rex Ryan going to the Bills? They’ve had one winning season in the last decade. Rex is widely considered a top coach in spite of his time in the New York circus.

            Or what about Joe Maddon, believed by numerous sources to be among the best managers in the game? He got out of his contract to sign with the Cubs. They haven’t had a winning season since 2009.

            Those are just two that instantly came to mind from the most recent offseasons.

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            • Roger

              6 years ago

              I don’t think either of those apply.

              Maddon signed with the Cubs after their rebuilding effort was already done with. The Cubs were considered likely to be strong contenders for the next several years.

              The BIlls were 9-7 last year.

              Anyway, I don’t know if Rex Ryan would be considered a top-tier guy who could choose exactly where he wanted to go (compared to guys like Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden).

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              • Jay fan since 77

                6 years ago

                You had me until you threw in Gruden! Man, overhyped coach!

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    • Warboss74

      6 years ago

      For the love god, no. Gardenhire is not a good manager.

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  6. cxz

    6 years ago

    Not a shocker, but still unfortunate to hear, I never like early season releases when it comes to managers. I hope this is just a starting point for them though, because clearly the issues they’re having run deeper than their manager.

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    • connfyoozed .

      6 years ago

      I’m a Pirates fan and can’t stand the Brewers… but I really can’t say anything negative about Roenicke. Seems like a straight shooter, and I hope he finds another gig again down the road.

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  7. connfyoozed .

    6 years ago

    Not a surprise, although the timing is a little strange: they won 2 out of 3 this weekend. It will be interesting to see if they go for a manager who is known for developing youngsters, and thus admit that they need to start over, or if Melvin is going to hire a veteran manager and try to turn them around.

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    • mypoint02

      6 years ago

      As long as Melvin is around the Brewers are never going to hire a veteran manager. Melvin is not averse to canning managers to save his own hide. Hard to get a veteran manager to agree to walk into this situation, a likely long rebuilding process, and be the scapegoat if things don’t work out. Knowing how this team operates, I’ll be shocked if it’s not Counsell. Great guy and he may be deserving, but he’s totally unproven as a manager or coach. Could be a rough few years…

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  8. Justin

    6 years ago

    8 months too late

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  9. johnsilver

    6 years ago

    David Clarke gets my vote as about anything for Milwaukee and most of the entire northeast for that matter.

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  10. Craig Jacobson

    6 years ago

    We’ve all forgotten those Garner/Lopes/Royster/Yost/Macha years pretty quickly, huh.

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  11. Light_tower_power

    6 years ago

    Hopefully Ventura joins him

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    • Jacob Leong

      6 years ago

      Along with Farrell.

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      • Light_tower_power

        6 years ago

        Farrell has won a World Series he has a better body of work then either of these two guys

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        • Jacob Leong

          6 years ago

          I know, but they defenitely didn’t win because of his managing

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          • johnsilver

            6 years ago

            I believe Farrell maybe too much of a player’s manager, like Francona. He’s better with pitching, but needs to put more of a wall up between players and the coaching staff than he learned from being under Francona all those years. Think it will be his eventual downfall, like it was for Francona.

            The buddy system doesn’t work.

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            • Michael

              6 years ago

              He’s better with pitching? Huh? I haven’t seen it.

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              • stl_cards16

                6 years ago

                Having a coach that’s good with pitching doesn’t mean you can throw a bunch of #4’s and expect him to turn them into a top rotation.

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                • Michael

                  6 years ago

                  Top rotation? No, of course not. But five major league starters who are getting hammered like it’s a game of whiffle ball night after night? Something’s amiss.

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  12. Lance

    6 years ago

    someone had to walk the plank

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    • ColoredPaper

      6 years ago

      The Brewers fired him, not the Pirates!

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      • Chiburgh

        6 years ago

        Arrr, Matey

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  13. Chiburgh

    6 years ago

    The Mets are playing winning baseball so someone had to replace Collins on the hot seat. Roenicke drew the short straw.

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  14. DaCubsDaBears

    6 years ago

    Craig Counsell maybe???

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    • Chiburgh

      6 years ago

      He’s the logical choice

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  15. Luckybrew

    6 years ago

    Hope Melvin is next.

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    • Lance

      6 years ago

      I think Melvin is a pretty good GM. He’s playing with a deck of 51, like those GM’s in Oakland, Tampa, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. They can get close from time to time by hitting on some draft picks and getting young talent from other organizations when it’s time to unload some soon-to-be FA’s. If Lohse & Garza could string together some strong starts in May, I’m sure he would love to turn them into some young talent and rebuild. Right now, they’re pretty much worthless.

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      • stl_cards16

        6 years ago

        The Brewers are middle of the pack in payroll. The Cardinals are usually $8-10MM higher than them in payroll. Sorry, that’s not an excuse in Milwaukee.

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        • Lance

          6 years ago

          the brewers did beef up the payroll last year because they thought they had a window to challenge and it looked good for a bit, getting Lohse, Garza. On june 28th, they were 19 games over .500 and have had a 38-60 record since that time. It’s time to rebuild but unfortunately, the guys with the big contracts are untradeable.

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    • Melvin McMurf

      6 years ago

      what did i do?

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  16. Michael

    6 years ago

    Guess Counsell got the call. Too bad. Bobby Valentine was brushing up on his signals.

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  17. Tyler Mueller

    6 years ago

    As much as I saw this
    coming, I am totally against this move for many different reasons. How about we
    put some talent out there for the guy to work with instead of guys who aren’t in
    their prime anymore! Everyone once said the same thing about Ned Yost, and now
    look where he has made it as a Major League manager. Yes Ron had some negatives
    in the way he decided to manage the game but every human has disadvantages, and
    the sad part is that’s what we judge people off of. I wish Ron the best of luck
    on whatever he has planned for his future, and thank him for having a positive
    impact on this ball club, and community as a whole. As for the Brewers they
    need to realize they need to rebuild because this club doesn’t have enough
    young talent to make a big run.

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    • wkkortas

      6 years ago

      If Melvin didn’t see this coming…well, that’s on him, not Roenicke.

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