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Orioles’ Offer To Chris Davis No Longer On The Table

By Steve Adams | December 10, 2015 at 10:07am CDT

10:07am: ESPN’s Buster Olney tweets that the Orioles didn’t raise their most recent offer to Davis — “not one nickel,” as his source put it. Not only that, but Baltimore’s offer to Davis is no longer on the table, according to Olney, though he adds that they’re willing to pick up the past thread of talks. MASNsports.com’s Roch Kubatko tweets that a club source denies their offer was increased as well.

DEC. 10, 8:40am: Baltimore has reportedly increased its offer to Davis, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, who hears they may be willing to go as high as $168MM over seven years — a $24MM average annual value. It’s uncertain whether or not the previously reported deferrals are still included in the revamped offer.

It was reported last night that Davis is seeking as much as $200MM over an eight-year term.

DEC. 9: Baltimore’s previously-reported offer of around $150MM was for seven years, Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports on Twitter. The O’s are “currently not willing” to exceed a $22MM average annual value to Davis, Eduardo Encina of the Baltimore Sun reports on Twitter. The Orioles’ offer may also have some deferred money involved, per Kubatko.

As was recently reported, the team may not be willing to wait forever for Davis to decide and is pursuing other options as well.

DEC. 8: Orioles owner Peter Angelos and executive VP Dan Duquette have made their desire to retain Chris Davis abundantly clear, and Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com sheds some light on just how serious they are in their quest to retain Davis, tweeting that the Orioles offered their former first baseman “in the neighborhood” of $150MM at today’s previously reported meeting with agent Scott Boras. Despite the sizable nature of that offer, talks between the two sides have yet to progress, Kubatko adds.

The reported offer is a staggering number from an Orioles organization that has never given out a contract larger than the six-year, $86.5MM contract signed by Adam Jones back in 2012. Of course, it’s not known how long the term of that contract is, and the differences between a six-year, $150MM offer and a seven- or eight-year $150MM offer are considerable from the perspective of Davis and Boras.

The 29-year-old Davis is the top power bat on the open market, as he leads the Majors in homers over the past three seasons. He’s also considered to be a plus defender at first base, and ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick recently wrote that some scouts consider him athletic enough to play a competent, albeit below-average corner outfield for a season or two should a team need to play him there in order to wait for a spot at first base to open up.

Given Boras’ history with top-tier free agents, it’s perhaps not surprising to see Davis pass on an early offer of that magnitude. Nevertheless, the offer does seem to demonstrate legitimate interest on Baltimore’s behalf, when at the onset of the 2015-16 offseason, most believed that the team did not possess the financial flexibility to keep Davis in Maryland. That line of thinking was strengthened when Matt Wieters accepted a qualifying offer and when the Orioles struck a four-year, $31MM agreement to retain setup ace Darren O’Day.

In spite of those costly contracts, the Orioles seem to be firmly in the thick of the still-developing market for Davis. The Cardinals have also been linked to Davis, and the Red Sox are said to have had internal discussions about him as well (though they’d first need to move Hanley Ramirez). ESPN’s Buster Olney also reported last month that the Giants have interest in Davis.

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87 Comments

  1. Kershawshank Redemption 2

    10 years ago

    I don’t want to imagine Davis playing a corner OF spot in ATT Park, but I can’t figure where else he would fit on the Giants.

    Reply
    • ray_derek

      10 years ago

      I can figure on him being at 1B instead of Belt….

      Reply
      • A'sfaninUK

        10 years ago

        lol

        Reply
      • gmenfan

        10 years ago

        Dear God, no.

        Reply
    • spooky

      10 years ago

      Not going to happen. Dont listen to anything reported by Olney.

      Reply
    • Anonymous 6

      10 years ago

      Belt can play left

      Reply
  2. joshb600

    10 years ago

    A lot of money for a player who’s had 3 inconsistent seasons. But that’s what happens when you’re one of the top free agents at your position, and a position high in demand… And a Boras client lol.

    Reply
    • basemonkey 2

      10 years ago

      Inconsistent? He’s won the HR crown in 2 of the last 3 years. I guess that’s inconsistent from a certain perspective?

      Reply
      • Lanidrac

        10 years ago

        He was terrible that other year, though.

        Reply
        • echoes

          10 years ago

          He hit 26 HRs and 72 RBIs in 127 games during his terrible year. Still reasonably productive for a terrible year.

          Reply
          • vwnut13

            10 years ago

            Was that the year he forgot to get his prescription for his PEDs?

            Reply
            • gorav114

              10 years ago

              The ped was adderall not steroids. Adderall does not help u bulken up or hit a baseball.

              Reply
              • Priggs89

                10 years ago

                Highly arguable. Concentration is a pretty huge part of hitting a baseball…

                Reply
          • adyo4552

            10 years ago

            He also strikes out like its his job.

            Reply
            • gmenfan

              10 years ago

              C’mon, if you break it down, its only like $100K a strikeout over the life of the deal.

              Reply
              • Priggs89

                10 years ago

                I’ll happily strike out for a heck of a lot less than that!

                Reply
        • OsFan106

          10 years ago

          He hit .270 with 33HRs and 85 RBI’s in 2012
          in 2013 he hit 280 with 53 HRs and 138 RBIs
          In 2014 he hit 1.96 with 25 HRs and 72 RBIs
          In 2015 he hit .262 with 47 HRs and 117 RBIs

          Other than 2014, his AVG has pretty much hovered around the same area since hes been in Baltimore. Had he played all of 2014, he would have hit 30+ Hrs for 4 straight years. He plays pretty good defense at both corner infield and outfield positions. How is he inconsistent?

          Reply
    • johnnya

      10 years ago

      Inconsistent???? Lmaooooo. Led league in home runs in 2 of them and was suspended for 40 games in the other season where he still hit 27 bombs. Hysterical

      Reply
  3. User 4245925809

    10 years ago

    Hate to see the O’s and Angelos end up signing this guy to such a massive deal after they gave Albert Bell that big one and got stuck with it, turned Angelos off on big deals for over a decade and might again when this one turns sour after a couple of years. I really hope someone else ups the offer really quick. Duquette is too smart to sign this guy IMO. He’s got to know this guy is a bust waiting to happen.

    Reply
    • jason19

      10 years ago

      insurance covered most of that belle contract

      Reply
  4. peterangelosisataintstain

    10 years ago

    If in fact that is true my hats off to PA for giving a more than reasonable offer.if he wants more let him walk

    Reply
  5. roob

    10 years ago

    Well, since the O’s are bidding against themselves they should just stop. That’s likely to be an overpay already.

    Reply
    • niched

      10 years ago

      If the O’s were bidding against themselves then Davis and Boras would have accepted the O’s offer by now.

      Reply
      • tuna411

        10 years ago

        Clearly you know nothing of the history of borass and his lies.

        Reply
        • captainballz

          10 years ago

          Agreed. Should’ve stopped at 7/$150M.

          Reply
        • niched

          10 years ago

          Looks like you may be right since it’s reported the O’s pulled their offer. Maybe they realized they were bidding against themselves.

          Reply
  6. bartoloshomie

    10 years ago

    What the h, he should have just accepted it. Thats prob more than what he deserves and also will be more than what Cespedes and Gordon will get. Hes not worth more than them.

    Reply
  7. greatd

    10 years ago

    There are the likes of Carter / Alvarez / Davis (Ike) out there.
    That won’t cost as much.
    I think it’d be wiser to wait things out since
    the Rangers seem willing to trade Price
    the Brewers seem willing to trade Lind
    There seems to be a surplus of first basemans out there.
    Let the other takers take their low cost options first.
    Low ball Boras if there aren’t enought takers for these guys.

    Reply
  8. Eric D.

    10 years ago

    150 million for a guy 1 season removed from hitting .196????

    Reply
    • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

      10 years ago

      Well, I still say let him go.
      Get Cueto or Gordon or Heyward.
      Let Boars and Davis enjoy each others company for awhile

      Reply
    • gmenfan

      10 years ago

      Its almost as silly as giving a pitcher $90M coming of a 4.97 era season. Oh wait …

      Reply
  9. The_Porcupine

    10 years ago

    I am skeptical that this is a serious offer on the O’s part. From a PR perspective, it’s probably the O’s trying to save face by showing the public an offer that they probably knew would not be accepted. I’ll believe that they’re serious about spending money, when they actually spend it. Not when they are talking about spending it. I mean, the O’day contract isn’t even final yet is it? Wouldn’t be surprised to see that get shot down for some reason..

    Reply
    • GRob78

      10 years ago

      I think its a serious offer, they’ve laid it on the table and now are waiting. They did trot Buck out over the past couple of days and, in at least one place, he’s said the clock is on for Davis. However, I completely agree that this is primarily a face saving procedure. Davis is looking for $25 million a year, someone will offer that to secure him…maybe more.

      Reply
      • captainballz

        10 years ago

        Nobody is giving Chris Davis $25M/per. You’re insane.

        Reply
  10. beyou02215

    10 years ago

    Davis is a huge gamble at that kind of money. I’d rather take my chances with a change-of-scenery Chris Carter or Pedro Alvarez.

    Reply
  11. Joe McMahon

    10 years ago

    The Orioles need to fix their disaster of a pitching staff. They can let Davis go, get a cheap replacement 1B and sign like 3 pitchers.

    Reply
  12. bradthebluefish

    10 years ago

    Red Sox don’t NEED to move Hanley Ramirez. Just throw him in LF… I’m kidding. Honestly, throw Chris Davis in the OF for a season and allow Hanley Ramirez time to work up his trade value. Better yet… Davis at 1B, Hanley at 3B, and Panda shipped out of Boston.

    Reply
  13. charles stevens

    10 years ago

    LOL…. Davis isn’t half the player Texieria was in his prime and look at what he has given the Yankees since signing that deal. This has epic fail written all over it.

    Reply
    • niched

      10 years ago

      Davis had led the league in home runs two out of the last three years. Teixeira has never come close to that. Teixeira was a very good player early in his career who has become an oft injured, very streaky player. Davis is more of a late bloomer.

      Reply
      • captainballz

        10 years ago

        Teixeria is a 25+ WAR player over the same period that Chris Davis has been in the bigs. That’s over a 10 WAR difference between them in the 2008-2015 timeframe.

        Bora$$ and Davis are nuts asking what they’re asking.

        Reply
        • niched

          10 years ago

          That’s a false way of looking at it. You should look at their recent history, not their whole history. Since 2012, Teixeira has had a WAR of 8.4. Over the same time period, Davis has had WAR of 15.1. That’s what is significant. Teixeira’s career is nearly over. Davis on the other hand appears to be a late bloomer. Not saying the O’s should sign him at that amount, but it’s hard to argue that if other players are getting crazy amounts of money that Davis shouldn’t also having led the league in home runs the past two out of three years, among other things.

          Reply
  14. 3Tavgreg

    10 years ago

    How many years? Without knowing the length you can’t tell if it’s a good deal. For 8 it would be a great deal. At 7 it would be fair given the deals given out this winter.

    Reply
    • Lanidrac

      10 years ago

      Either way, it’s a large overpay in my book. Either they’re offering him an undeserved AAV, or they’re offering to pay him top dollar into his late 30’s, which is almost always a big mistake. Most teams need to learn to cap the guaranteed years of these massive deals at age 36 or maybe 37 at the most if you want to stretch.

      Reply
  15. Johnny Shoe

    10 years ago

    Ryan Howard esque

    Reply
  16. misterb71

    10 years ago

    Anybody who thinks the Red Sox can simply ship away Sandoval or Ramirez to make room for Davis is an idiot. Dombrowski and the rest of the front office in Boston is stuck with both of those guys unless they can find somebody as st stupid as Cherrington was to sign both of them for big bucks over the long term. If they had takers for either one they’d already be gone. Nobody outside of New England is willing to foot the bill for either one.

    Reply
    • vtadave

      10 years ago

      Pablo to the Dodgers for Carl Crawford. Let’s do this!

      Reply
  17. Cletis

    10 years ago

    Well….. That put the Cheap skate Cardinals OUT !!! They are NOT SPENDING COMPETITIVE MONEY!!! Moz is out of touch with current price values of top notched players.

    Reply
    • Triteon

      10 years ago

      Good thing to…way too much to spend on a one-dimensional player.

      Reply
  18. Joe McMahon

    10 years ago

    7/150 won’t get it done, Baltimore. 6/150 probably would. You’re going to have to go over $22M a year to sign him.

    Reply
    • niched

      10 years ago

      If that’s so then they should probably let him walk. The Orioles have to be more careful about their spending, and there are other options than just Chris Davis.

      Reply
  19. dlevin11

    10 years ago

    Davis is inconsistent and strikes out a lot so O s need to explore other options.

    Reply
  20. Tyler 20

    10 years ago

    Does he not remind you of Ryan Howard a bit? I would pass so fast..spend a little more and go after Jason Heyward get a buy low option like Pedro Alvarez for first

    Reply
  21. jkos

    10 years ago

    Davis is a solid player but these contracts are out of control, perfect example of the players thinking more about the dollars they can shove in their pockets then the fan base and the fact that they are playing a kid’s game…greedy!

    Reply
  22. kiddhoff

    10 years ago

    No mention of the Rockies going after Davis. I know, I know. Rockies aren’t contenders. But how else are they gonna fill the stands?

    Disclaimer–‘not a Rockies fan

    Reply
  23. bradthebluefish

    10 years ago

    And where will their ace come from after spending all this money?

    Reply
  24. galihaaben 2

    10 years ago

    Please let Davis go. Chris Carter and Pedro Alvarez might do better with a change of scenery

    Reply
  25. peterangelosisataintstain

    10 years ago

    He wants 200 million…he done bumped his head.ill take 70000 a year and pretty sure i can hit .200 and play first base

    Reply
    • TheMichigan

      10 years ago

      Unless you have some collegiate experience in baseball (which maybe you do idk) I doubt you could hit .200 and get picks at first and other things considering

      Reply
      • baseballrat

        10 years ago

        You took the words right out my mouth, Michigan. THIS GUY!

        Reply
    • adyo4552

      10 years ago

      Well 355k is the ML minimim salary so its nice that hes willing to take a voluntary pay cut!

      But yeah hitting 200 against ML pitching would be as likely for me as growing a third buttcheek.

      Reply
  26. gojira15

    10 years ago

    This reminds me of The Most Dangerous Game.

    Reply
  27. picknasty21

    10 years ago

    These figures are staggering for someone who is 1 year removed from batting under the Mendoza line. Someone who also is among the league leaders is K’s. Telling Adam “dont call me pacman” Jones Chris Davis makes double his salary will probably piss him off, it would for me haha.. This has awful signing written all over it

    Reply
  28. gorav114

    10 years ago

    They are making a final push so they know if they should draft Balbino Fuenmayor as a platoon partner in the rule 5 instead.

    Reply
  29. gfn14

    10 years ago

    Take it Chris. You won’t see anymore anywhere else.

    Reply
  30. greatd

    10 years ago

    Sox / Yanks / Diamondbacks / Dodgers / Tigers

    He should take it since the big dogs seem tapped out or don’t want him.
    Don’t understand why the Orioles don’t down play this considering that the likes of

    Carter / Alvarez / Davis (Ike) / Fielder

    are out there.
    Why in the world do they think they can win the division with close to 0 pitching?
    Sign Carter or Alvarez for less and use the left over money to sign a pitcher or two..

    Reply
  31. GRob78

    10 years ago

    $200 million over 8 years?

    Somebody might pay it. I can think of a couple clubs that have the capacity, but I don’t see it happening. Orioles will probably take the offer off the table after next week. Scott Boras is bad for baseball.

    Reply
    • greatd

      10 years ago

      He’s good for his clients so he does have a place in baseball.

      Reply
  32. gorav114

    10 years ago

    Offer pulled. That could spell trouble as Boras does not appreciate defiance. I think the Os made an offer good enough for Davis and am with them on moving on. If Heyward, Upton, and Cespedes sign Davis will get more expensive. So forget Davis and sign Heyward, Upton, or Cespedes.

    Reply
  33. Bob Smiley

    10 years ago

    GOOD FOR THE O’S!!

    Reply
    • nixon07

      10 years ago

      How about it. The O’s are smart for walking away, use this money for something better.

      Chris Davis is a good player but a teams going to be crazy if they give him 200mil.

      Reply
  34. david_gr

    10 years ago

    he wants more per year than Miguel Cabrera?

    Reply
    • Priggs89

      10 years ago

      Didn’t Cabrera’s extension add 8 years for $248 mil? That’s $31 mil per…

      Reply
  35. bucknerforhall

    10 years ago

    IF Cardinals lose out on Heyward – I could see a fit with STL
    otherwise not sure what his market is?

    who has $24 mil available in their 2016 budget?

    Reply
    • Dan LeBlanc

      10 years ago

      Orioles fans say good-bye to Chris Davis, say hello to Justin Upton!!

      Reply
  36. ln13

    10 years ago

    He’s going to get 1 year, $15MM late in spring training.

    Reply
    • Cd360

      10 years ago

      Doubt it. If he doesn’t sign he will probably wait until after the draft to lose his compensation.

      Reply
  37. Mitch Augustyn

    10 years ago

    Makes you really appreciate a guy like Adam Jones much more. Both guys given a chance to play full time for the first time. Adam Jones gives back to the city. Now we do not have to hear the boos when he strikes out like I have heard about Arod from Yankee fans. We all know he will strike out about 30% of the time. Good luck finding that goose that lays golden eggs Chris Davis.

    Reply
  38. gilly

    10 years ago

    I would rather have Nick M. back. Atl is willing to trade everyone call them up! 33m/3 years a guy that is going to give you an .800 ops.

    Reply
    • citycat

      10 years ago

      I’m in for that, never should have let him go

      Reply
    • niched

      10 years ago

      Markakis hasn’t had an .800 OPS since 2012. Not even close really.

      Reply
  39. chesteraarthur

    10 years ago

    If this is true and they stick to it, good for them

    Reply
  40. bradb4ku

    10 years ago

    Way to dig your own grave Boras. Have fun accepting a 1 year offer now and doing this all again next year.

    Reply
  41. jjdunckley

    10 years ago

    I know he doesn’t put up the HR’s as Davis but I would like to see the Braves ship over Freeman and throw in Markakis and/or Teheran too. Finish tearing apart the big league club to work this rebuild and help fill some holes for Baltimore.

    Reply
    • niched

      10 years ago

      No way the Braves are trading Freeman. The O’s would have to give them Schoop, Gausman and Bundy for the Braves to trade just Freeman. Even that might not get it done.

      Reply
      • jjdunckley

        10 years ago

        Based on their logic for trading Simmons, there is no reason to hold on to Freeman. There is no reason to hide it just being a salary dump move either. I have no idea what the roster looks like on the MLb level and no clue to what their minor league system looks like but I would like to see Markakis spend his contract playing for a team with a chance and Freeman too.

        Reply
        • niched

          10 years ago

          The Braves have a very strong minor league system, especially in terms of pitching. They could be the next Royals, Mets or Astros in terms of all the young talent they have, even after the Simmons trade. I kind of agree they should trade Freeman strictly from a talent perspective, but there a few reasons they won’t imo: 1) Freeman is only 26, so he will likely still be in his prime when the Braves are ready to compete again. 2) The Braves have a lot of young pitching depth but they are a lot thinner in terms of hitting, even after acquiring Olivera from the Dodgers and Swanson from the DBacks. In fact, if they should trade anyone it should probably be Olivera, assuming he eventually starts to hit well. 3) Freeman is the face of the franchise now.

          Reply
  42. algionfriddo

    10 years ago

    Hope Davis can back w/Orioles. The offer is very reasonable & he kills in Camden Yards.

    Reply

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