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NL Notes: Greinke, Dodgers, Cardinals

By Connor Byrne | April 17, 2016 at 9:10am CDT

In a data-driven piece, Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic examines some of the reasons behind Diamondbacks ace Zack Greinke’s early season difficulties. Greinke’s ERA through three starts (6.75) is more than five runs worse than the league-best 1.66 he put up as a Dodger last season, and ERA estimators like FIP (4.52) and xFIP (4.30) also aren’t particularly bullish on his performance. Part of the reason, as Piecoro details, is that Greinke is finding too much of the plate. Only 111 of Greinke’s 3,239 pitches were center-cut (roughly belt-high over the middle) last season, while he has already thrown 14 such pitches this year, Piecoro found from Pitch-f/x data at BrooksBaseball.Net. Further, 11 of Greinke’s pitches have gone over the center of the plate and up in the zone, and 10 more have traveled over the plate and just above the strike zone. Greinke has therefore put himself in position to get hit harder than usual, which is exactly what has happened. In fact, 6.5 percent of balls hit off Greinke this year have carried exit velocities of at least 95 mph compared to 5.3 percent in 2015, per Statcast. Greinke is fresh off his best start as a Diamondback (seven innings, two earned runs, five strikeouts, one walk in San Diego), but Padres hitters swung at just 39 percent of his change-ups, the lowest rate in his last 18 starts, according to Piecoro. As a result, both the D-backs and Greinke wondered if he or someone else was tipping his pitches, manager Chip Hale said after the game.

More from the National League…

  • Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman doesn’t believe the major leagues have properly welcomed Cuban-born players  in the past. “We as an industry, in my opinion, have failed our Cuban players,” Friedman told Bleacher Report’s Scott Miller. “We sign them for big money and rush them to the big leagues.” Friedman certainly has a point about the league having failed Cubans, as it only began assigning Latin players translators this year, which Miller notes. On the other hand, pricey free agents who arrive from Japan have been given translators immediately. Considering Friedman’s thoughts, it’s no surprise that he and the Dodgers are putting forth an effort to help star Cuban outfielder Yasiel Puig fit in better in his fourth year. Friedman said earlier this spring that first-year manager Dave Roberts and his staff were doing “a great job creating a relationship” with Puig, who stated over the winter that he wanted to be a better teammate. “It showed a level of vulnerability to me,” commented Friedman. Puig had a down year in 2015, but his performance has been sensational early this season, as indicated by a scorching .357/.449/.548 line in 42 plate appearances.
  • Former Korean and Japanese league reliever Seung-hwan Oh has made a seamless transition to the Cardinals’ bullpen in his first year in the majors and is primed to earn more responsibility, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch writes. The South Korea native has allowed a mere one hit in 6 2/3 scoreless innings, adding a whopping 11 strikeouts against five walks. The righty threw two shutout frames Saturday and successfully retired one of the game’s premier left-handed hitters, the Reds’ Joey Votto. With first base open, Oh could’ve pitched around Votto, but he challenged the first baseman and ultimately retired him on a fly out. “We like his stuff against lefties,” manager Mike Matheny said. “We’re going to get more opportunities to see (it).” More Oh could mean less Seth Maness, who has an unimpressive K/BB (1.5) and bloated 8.31 ERA in 4 1/3 innings this year.
  • After beginning the season in a 1-for-15 funk with eight strikeouts and no walks, Cardinals center fielder Randal Grichuk has since gone 6 of 17 with four extra-base hits (two home runs, two doubles), eight walks and four K’s. Thanks in part to his work with a pitching machine called a Hack Attack, Grichuk is now seeing pitches better. Prior to his turnaround, Grichuk stood in the cage at Turner Field last week and watched nearly 50 sliders from the machine. “The first few, maybe five to 10, I just took. The last 30 to 40 I would call out if it was a ball or strike as soon as I could pick it up,” he told Goold. Said assistant hitting coach Derrick May, “Just seeing pitches and building the strength of their eyes with work. What better to do it than with a slider machine?”
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  1. BashBro

    9 years ago

    Everyone settle down. It’s only been two since opening day. It’s Marathon!

    Reply
  2. baseballrat

    9 years ago

    Better for Greinke to Struggle Early, as opposed to Late. He will figure it out.

    Reply
    • chesteraarthur

      9 years ago

      Why? A loss now is the same as a loss later

      Reply
      • baseballrat

        9 years ago

        Thanks for the Fact smart guy. I’m sure you were expecting him to go undefeated. Wish I was as smart as you are

        Reply
  3. dodgerdog

    9 years ago

    I can’t believe this Friedman guy. “Vulnerability” shouldn’t even be in the same sentence that references a guy making 7 mil a year to play a kid’s game. I’m beyond caring about Puig’s “vulnerability” at that (or any) price.

    Reply
    • BashBro

      9 years ago

      I guess, just b/c they make a lot of money they are “Robots” and inhuman. Sounds about right

      Reply
      • dodgerdog

        9 years ago

        Puig’s immaturity is legendary. I wonder, Bash, if your boss would long tolerate that level of immaturity or give a fig about your “vulnerability”?

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        • BashBro

          9 years ago

          I’m pretty sure he had NEW bosses (Freidman/Roberts) who came in and was willing to let the past be just that. Maybe that worked, but I’m sure you know all the happening inside the clubhouse better than anyone

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        • BlueSkyLA

          9 years ago

          The best way to remain sane as a Dodger fan is to ignore pretty much everything Friedman says. I would not call Puig’s immaturity “legendary” but it has certainly has been a factor in his development as a player, and yes, people in his situation can often use mentors to help them along. We’ve seen some real growth from Puig this year, so whatever is being done seems to be helping.

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        • BashBro

          9 years ago

          From what I’ve read I think Adrian Gonzales words are starting to sink in slowly but surely. He still has a ways to go, but it’s headed in a positive direction.

          Reply
      • tommyLA

        9 years ago

        Yes it’s a kids game, but the man is human. He wants to be liked and appreciated just like anyone else in any real life situation. Friedman has a deep concern for his players emotional investment in the game as it translates to production.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          9 years ago

          I was with you until the last part. Nothing that Friedman says conveys deep concern. His statements are always laced with bland corporate-speak, such as this beauty from the source article: “But there are certain constructs within the environment of a team that are important.”

          He understands investments all right, just not of the emotional kind.

          Reply
        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          9 years ago

          To try an compare job status to what they do isn’t in the same realm of possibility. I don’t think anybody on these boards were dropped in a different country guaranteed at the time they signed they couldn’t go back home with expectations to produce at jump street. As a fan you’re probably only looking for production. And Puig is producing and doing things right way so their shouldn’t be gripe unless you’re waiting for him to fail. I think what everyone doesn’t take into account is age. The kid was signed as a 21-22 year old. In a new country new language new everything. Knowing at the time he couldn’t go back home. This biggest aspect is the cultural difference. That is huge. Puig is starting to grow up. I agree with taking what Friedman says with at face value. But what GM do you know that’s going to tell you exactly what they know. Friedman was beloved bu Rays players so I’m going to hold judgement on what I don’t know in not caring for their emotional well being.

          Reply
    • A'sfaninUK

      9 years ago

      Yet another narrow-minded “all baseball players live the same life no matter what country they’re from” view from someone who’s so clueless about everything that isn’t their own view of the world.

      “Immature” or having fun the same way he had fun his entire life playing baseball? Bryce was right, and people like you really need to grow up, not the other way around.

      Reply
  4. cardfan2011

    9 years ago

    Im surprised by Oh’s seamless transition into the bullpen and here’s hoping he continues to pitch effectively. As for Grichuk, I like his bat, and his potential.

    Reply
  5. rocky7

    9 years ago

    Well, All I would say with respect to Puig is that $42 Million can offer lots of options when it comes to support or acclimating to new surroundings.
    Friedman states “we sign them for big money and rush them to the big leagues”….really.
    The players themselves insist on signing for the highest dollar amount available and pretty much don’t want anything to do with the minor leagues so who exactly is to blame here.
    Friedman and his contemporaries in management are to blame for throwing the amount of dollars at untested players who are thrown into big league games immediately. Trying to catch lightning in a bottle the easy way.
    Ask the Red Sox or Atlanta what they think of their investment in Cuban League ballplayers so far. And you better believe the Red Sox are saying prayers over Moncado as far as their investment in this young man and his future major league skills.

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    • davidcoonce74

      9 years ago

      Friedman didn’t sign Puig

      Reply
  6. A'sfaninUK

    9 years ago

    Americans from low income background who win the lottery often blow through the money within a few years. How is that different to a Cuban baseball player who came over on a raft? Freidman is 100% correct, MLB has not helped them other than give them money – need more than that.

    Reply
  7. Deke

    9 years ago

    Ozzie Guillen had been saying for years that teams would bring in translators for Japanese players but never for anyone who spoke Spanish and instead relied on a player to act as a translator.
    However Puig’s issues are not related to not having someone to translate to him, there’s plenty of people who can act as a go between and communicate with him to tell him to pull his head in. Puig’s issues are that he’s selfish, immature and basically about as intelligent as a bucket of hair. I can’t see that moron changing his attitude. He might reel it in a bit but once an idiot, always an idiot.

    Reply
    • BlueSkyLA

      9 years ago

      Charming. I bet you’re lots of fun at parties too.

      Reply
  8. lobretto1

    9 years ago

    Deke if you actually watched Puig at all this year he has made tremendous strides. He hasn’t been a problem at all from the outside looking in and just from watching him on camera you can see he has made an improvement on all aspects. For example he has been hustling hard on every ball out in play but you got to be so quick to judge from the past with a close minded attitude basically saying people can’t change. News flash….it happens everyday. He must be the life of the party BlueSkyLA

    Reply
  9. CASH_MONEY1

    9 years ago

    Grienke better shape up!! He is on my fantasy team

    Reply

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