In regards to Brewers left fielder Ryan Braun’s potential availability this summer, one American League executive told Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe, “That’s the name I’m waiting for.” Braun is in the first season of a five-year, $105MM extension, and both the money he’s owed and his PED history are roadblocks standing in the way of a possible deal, reports Cafardo. The writer adds that the quality of return in a hypothetical Braun trade will come down to how much of his contract Milwaukee eats. The 32-year-old has dealt with injuries this season, but he has still slashed an outstanding .316/.378/.541 with 11 home runs through 217 plate appearances.
More from the Boston-area insider:
- The fact that one of Braun’s teammates, Jonathan Lucroy, is still on the Brewers surprises some baseball executives. One National League exec thinks rebuilding Milwaukee has an unrealistic asking price for Lucroy. Nevertheless, the 29-year-old has made his case for a major return by serving as perhaps the majors’ best catcher this season; plus, he has a cheap club option for 2017 ($5.25MM).
- Opinions are split within the Braves organization as to whether they should trade 25-year-old right-hander Julio Teheran or build around him. The Braves have fielded inquiries on Teheran, but it would cost a significant haul to acquire him, notes Cafardo. In 82 innings this year, Teheran has recorded an excellent ERA (2.85) and put up strong strikeout and walk rates of 8.45 and 2.52, respectively. He’s also controllable through 2020 on an eminently reasonable contract.
- In not-so-shocking news, the Padres are hoping to move struggling outfielder Matt Kemp, a major league source told Cafardo. However, given Kemp’s contract (he’ll make $21.5MM per year through 2019) and lack of production, it’s going to be difficult to find a taker. With his combination of subpar defense and disappointing offense, the former MVP candidate has been among the majors’ least valuable players this year.
- Reliever Daniel Hudson, a pending free agent, could be a hot commodity around the trade deadline if the Diamondbacks decide to sell. The right-handed flame-thrower has tossed 24 2/3 innings this year and logged a 1.82 ERA, 8.03 K/9 and 2.19 BB/9, also inducing ground balls 49.2 percent of the time.
- Free agent outfielder Shane Victorino is still looking for a new team, his agent, John Boggs, told Cafardo. Victorino has been available since the Cubs released him May 23. The 35-year-old was a replacement-level player in 71 games last season, batting a weak .230/.308/.292 in 204 combined PAs with the Red Sox and Angels, so he might continue to have difficulty finding work.
Cafardo starts with an extended trashing of Carl Crawford, in case anyone is interested.
The Kemp deal will always be hung around Preller’s neck. The problem with that deal was there is no exit strategy; seemingly no consideration was given to, ‘What if this experiment (i.e. the 2015 Padres) does not work?’ Now the Pads are stuck with Kemp. Let’s face it, no one is picking up more than about $5 to $7 Million of that deal per year, and the market is limited exclusively to AL teams who need a DH. Winnow those potential suitors down to the AL teams that are in contention AND who are willing to spend on Kemp, and what are you left with? That’s right. The Pads are stuck.
To be fair, it’s not like he gave up a ton for Kemp. Yes, they gave up more than they got, but Wieland is a none factor, they traded Eflin immediately and Grandel is a good-not-grade player. The only thing that kills the Padres is money owed.
Grandal has a positive war this year. He is worth a full point more than Kemp at this point. Even on offense he is a more valuable player than Kemp with wOBA, wRC+, OPS+ and OBP being better than Kemp’s stats. When you consider how unlucky Grandal has been to be suffering through a .222 BABIP, it’s a given that he will get better as the year goes on. Last year Grandal put up a 2.3 WAR while Kemp put up a 0.4.
Eflin is dominating in AAA at age 22, the 2nd youngest pitcher in the International League. Those 2 alone make this a loss for the Padres. Add in the money and it’s one of the worst trades I have ever seen a Padre GM make.
just as a reminder – matt kemp has 13 homeruns
So does Brandon Moss. I don’t think anyone would think it’s a good idea to pay him $20MM a year through 2019.
Chris Carter has 17 home runs, he is on a 1 year deal for 2.5 mil.
Of the 31 guys that have 13 or more home runs, 14 of them make less than the $3.5 million the Dodgers are paying of Kemp’s ridiculous $21.5 million salary.
The Kemp deal should hang over Fowler and Dee’s neck not Prellers. They were talking about Kemp well before Preller got hired, it is obvious the deal was pushed with meddling owners.
Yeah I always figured that the kemp trade was pushed on by owners to try and make a splash by getting a “name brand” player. So much for that working out.
Eflin has only been terrific this season, while Kemp is a disaster and the Padres are starting guys like Colin Rea and Luis Perdomo.
I don’t really care much about Eflin, he has 2 redeeming qualities, he throws strikes and throws low 90s. Maybe he can stick as backend guy but he isn’t going strike enough guys out to be an average major league starter.
Big loss is Grandal, he’s good when he is healthy, sadly it’s an issue for him but he still brings value in his walking/solid power/ and most of all his great framing. Of course Kemp and his awful contract makes it even worse.
I’m glad Pedermo gets starts and experience before headed back to minors next year. I still think Rea has chance to be decent backend if he started to throw strikes like he did last year.
Eflin is now with the Phillies and will make his next start against the Jays in Toronto on Tuesday. Eflin had almost exactly the same scouting report as the guy we took with the #8 overall pick when he was a draft prospect. If I set them next to each other you wouldn’t know which is which. The big difference is Eflin didn’t go through TJ a year before the draft. Just because this years draft was lacking in impact prospects is no reason to believe that Eflin is not a heck of a good pitcher. He was considered a very polished and projectable middle of the rotation starter with 4 MLB average or above pitches and very little difference between his floor and his ceiling.
I have no idea what the draft means about Eflin and no he doesn’t have same scouting report of Quantrill who has a potential 70 changeup . Eflin has had a terrible strikeout rate in minors, and doesn’t miss bats at all. It’s really hard to see him being more than a below average starter, he doesn’t have a swing and miss out pitch and does not have 4 average or better pitches or else he’d be striking out more than 1 a inning.
i thought taking a chance on Matt Kemp was not a bad move. If he does well, you look great. He could be flipped or keep him if in contention. However, Matt Kemp is not a bad player. He would likely be hitting better anywhere outside S.
If the Yankees are in contention, they should go after 1B Joey Votto. Other 1B that are being shopped such as Prince Fielder and Ryan Howard are over-priced waiver wire trash at this point.
I didn’t think Votto was being shopped, that is a huge contract. Doubt they would go for Votto with Bird still close (barring recovery).
Kemp has hardly been a “disaster,.” He drove in 100 runs last year and this year he’s on target for 30-100 season again for a terrible offensive team. The Padres problems are NOT Kemp. He’s producing what you should expect.
RBIs are a TEAM stat, not individual. If you look at percentage of baserunners driven in, then you have a personal stat and that doesn’t look good for Kemp. He ranks 2nd to last among qualifying RF in the NL. Kemp has a negative WAR, -0.6. That means you can call up the average AAA outfielder and they would contribute more to the team winning than Kemp is right now. Both his defense AND his offense are on the negative side of what a replacement level player would provide. That is not just bad, its stupid bad.
Everyone counters RBI’s with it being a “team stat”.
Fine…..lets put Amarista in the four hole.
I don’t care what Stat you throw out there some guys excel with guys on base and some don’t.
I’m not saying Kemp earns his pay but he is one thing this team always lacks and always needs more of…..a run producer.
Because RBI’s are the sole determining factor when judging a hitter’s worth, right? Stay delusional hahaha.
the two stats that REALLY matter in baseball are runs scored and runs allowed. you need someone to produce runs and runs scored/RBI’s are THE most important stats for an everday player. Kemp HAS produced what you should expect him to produce. Whether he is worth the money he is getting is besides the point. the money is about the market at work. All you can ask of a player is to produce the type of numbers he had been producing when he signed the big contract.. And Kemp has done that….driving in a lot of runs for a LOUSY offensive team. Prince Fielder has not. Adrian Beltre has. Pablo Sandoval has not.
Well if every GM in baseball agrees with you then Kemp shouldn’t be hard to move at all.
I think most GM’s would LOVE to have someone on their team who could hit like Kemp or Albert Pujols! But the reality is, they make so much money not many teams can afford them. Again, Kemp has produced everything the Padres should have reasonably expected. The fact SD is a lousy team is NOT Kemp’s fault. In 1958=59, the Cubs finished in 5th place each year with losing records. Was that the fault of Ernie Banks, who was the league MVP in both those seasons?
Matt Kemp completely sucks at baseball now. Deal with it. He’s a bad hitter, horrific defender, and a bad baserunner. He can hit homers occasionally but his plate discipline has completely gone away, and he has a laughable OBP.
And Kemp is on his way to a 30-100+ season and may very will wind up on the all star team. Deal with it.
just a reminder – Grandal is an Allstar catcher now. they gave that up for kemp.
He gets ya 15 HR and 50 RBI a season while hitting .200. He might have been an all star last year but hardly the breakout that AJ bashers have predicted.
Grandal is a much better catcher than Kemp is a right fielder.
Grandal is a PED using injury prone cheat.
He’s not on the field enough to even concern ourselves with.
Again…..throw any stat out there you want but id rather have Norris!
I think we are going to end up missing Turner and Joe Ross….. But other than that?
And Myers is doing just fine as far as I’m concerned.
*Phew* …glad Cafardo clarified Braun’s PED history and contract are standing in the way of a deal, I mean, think of the millions of baseball fans who wouldn’t deduce that.
I really don’t think the PED issue is that big of a deal for Braun anymore. I think the league is proven that if you’re a good hitter or have potential they’re willing to overlook that
It just depends. I was in the stands at Wrigley in April and the boos and echo throughout the field.
Not sure how he’s treated in places like Seattle, Houston or Miami. It’s hard to tell on TV sometimes.
But from a team perspective, you’re right. As long as you produce – that’s all that matters.
The way things went down with his PED case is hard to forget. I think it’s an issue if your 32, been injured quite a bit, and haven’t produced quite as much, and owed 105 million, it’s called leverage.
I agree it looked bad how it all went down. He’s mashing now though and after this year he’s owed roughly 76 mil. So you would be getting Braun for 5.5 years for 76 mill if the Brewers agreed to pay the rest of his salary this year and traded him at the deadline, thats a steal. He would easily get that if he hit the free agent market after this year.
Completely agree. The only thing impacting his value is the injury.
I think if he was a free agent he would get 5/80, not much more if at all. He will be 33, is a value suck defensively and has character concerns beyond just the steroids. You are likely only paying for maybe 2 more good years before he is relegated to dhing.
What are the character concerns besides the steroids?
Padres just need to eat the money to make a kemp deal feasible hopefully ownership is willing to do it, realize it is complete sunk cost. Padres by far most interesting part of organization is OF’s that are ready or close to ready. Alex Dickerson at AAA has been incredible, yes he is old and that should be taken into account but even adjusting for PCL he’s been terrific. He needs a chance ASAP, Jankowski should take over for Jay when he is traded no need to rush Margot.
Jankowski himself is a hell of a defender and his defense looks good enough to make up for his below average bat (plus his base running value). And of course Renfroe has been terrific, but the lack of walks scare me a bit. Still he should be starting next year.
As for the Kemp trade, anyone paying close attention realizes it was mostly pushed on by ownership, Fowler and Dee are very meddling and hopefully by now they have learned their lesson. Still though Fowler is incredibly embarassing with his constant comments in the public, and rumor that Seidler is taking over after next year I hope is true. I still believe in Preller’s plan.
I don’t think Fowler has learned his lesson. He paid $31 million to run Shields out of town and got nothing in return. I don’t believe Preller has a plan. If he does, he is sure not showing it. At this point he is winging it and failing badly.
It’s easy to see Preller’s plan. And while I don’t like the shields deal it maybe a complete sunk cost. Of course Dee/Fowler’s meddling is the biggest issue
I agree. They never should have brought on Dee and Fowler has just been making himself look silly lately. Shields is gone, but if they can somehow find a way to get rid of kemp, it will be a miracle. Overall, I just wish they would stop being in denial and just admit that the team is rebuilding already.
Bad contract for bad contracts. For example:
Yanks trade Headley and Gardner and get Kemp and money. Gardner actually not a bad contract just need free up space.
Thing is Yanks will never do this nor should they unless they turn season around and can send Chapman to Texas for Gallo and a prospect and them trade Headley and Gardner for Kemp and money.
I’m pretty sure the Rangers wouldn’t trade Gallo for a reliever who’s only under contract for a half season no matter what prospect they throw in.
Exactly. Chapman is good but he has very little value in a trade because of his off-the-field stuff and the fact he’ll be a free agent in a few months (Chapman’s not taking a QO or signing an extension).
I don’t think the Padres would want Headley back.
Chase Headcase not coming back to SD. Fowler dictate to AJ on day 1: get rid of Grandal because of drugs and pitchers didn’t like throwing to him. Bad move. Maybe fowler will pay to move him….like shields deal. More likely to move jay and make room for Renfroe.
I have heard from Padres fans many times after the trade that Padres pitchers didn’t like throwing to Grandal, but I can’t find a single article or a single radio interview where anyone says that. No one even intimates that. Where did you get that info? I think it’s just Padres fans bashing the guy because he is a Dodger now.
Well there is this one article. Talks about how Grandal thought pitches should be thrown in the inside of the plate before working the outer half to record an out. The disagreement led to Rene Rivera working with Cashner, Ross, and Kennedy while Grandal only working with the 4/5 starters. Also, after being benched for most of the 2014 season, he (Grandal) texted many teammates (including Ross, Cashner, Kennedy) to see how they can improve their chemistry/relationship – only Ross replied. I’m guessing this is the article Pads fans talk about when they say “Pitchers didn’t like throwing to Grandal.”
Article (link): San Diego Union Tribune
Thank you for digging up the article. I heard an interview with nick Huntdley last year and he confirmed it. It was everyday chatter with Lexus club season tix holders who talk to mgmt and clubhouse. I like Grandal – switch hitting catcher/he was pads best hitter. We have a shortage of hitters. I would have told Ross and cashner to lump it. What have they done for us lately?
That explains this conundrum. I myself was confused about this too, but the article clears it up. I guess it makes sense why guys like Ross started wanting to throw to hedges and Rivera instead of Grandal.
With regards to Ryan Braun. The common theme seems to be that he has a fat contract and a PED history. Since when was that such a big deal. It didn’t seem to faze the Mariners when they signed Nelson Cruz. Other ped’ers found lucrative homes. The Brewers will never eat part of his contract. It will be all or nothing. If he goes, I predict it will be either to the Giants or Dodgers both of whom have the money to spend are teams Braun lists that he would play for. The best offer gets him. He does not fit into the club’s rebuilding plan.
If the best offer is Milwaukee pays some cash towards Braun’s salary, but the prospect return from that team goes from ok to really good, the Brewers probably would not let the dollars get in the way of a deal. Granted, their current and near future payrolls don’t look to be all that high, so even though Braun’s salary is a significant percentage of Milwaukee’s payroll, it’s not prohibitive in the least.
Braun has enough value currently to warrant Milwaukee not sending cash to get a solid deal, but there are legitimate injury concerns, and since he’s 32 now, and requires maintenance days off already, the acquiring team probably would be more comfortable making a trade a returning solid to good prospects with money coming back.
Brewers will have to eat some of Brauns contract or sell VERY low, taking scrap prospects.
Ha no they won’t. People act like he’s an average player now getting paid a lot of money. He’s a star and hitting like one of the best players in the league. His contract really isn’t that bad at all and if he keeps playing like he is playing he will be underpaid. I mean it’s not like he has a Votto contract where he’s due 190 some million for the next 7 years.
He’s a star on pace for a 3 war season… His defense erases a lot of his offense. The original poster was correct. Yes it’s not huge money compared to votto, but it is relatively close to what he would get in free agency,
WAR isn’t the end all be all evaluation of talent. I like WAR but it’s not perfect by any means even though I know some people think it is
Padres might as well keep Kemp around. They aren’t winning anytime soon, fans like Kemp for the most part, and no team will take him unless the Padres pay for most of his contract anyways. He is no star but still good for 25 HR and 100 RBIs and poor defense.
Could see if he can play 1st. I mean myers needs days off, kemp could try playing 1st which if hes halfway decent at 1st there goes the liability in the outfield cause he’d be at 1st which AL teams can switch him between DH and 1st. .250 avg, 25 HRs, 100 RBIs. Im sure some AL teams would love that kinda production from their 1st/DH player. Also, boston is gonna need a replacement for ortiz. Could just swap pablos contract a prospect or 2 and and cash for kemps contract. Pablo is coming off an injury so if the red sox chip in 2-3 mill off his price tag a year and toss in some low low prospects for kemp and his salary yeah theyre taking on more money but he’ll give you good production in fenway and yankee stadium. Pablo might benefit from a change of scenery.
Ugh, not this again.
For the last time, NO ONE IS TRADING FOR PABLO SANDOVAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You ARE persistent!
1st time i said trade for pablo. Hes coming off injury, could get the sox to throw in cash, take kemps salary just to rid themselves of pablo, and toss in a prospect or 2. Also, if healthy, pablo at 3rd, spangenberg at ss, solarte 2nd, myersat 1st. Youd be hoping for him to regain form but it’d be 10 mill less than kemps salary if they throw in money.
For one, Spangenberg isn’t a shortstop. For two, people in general (not just you) need to stop trying to make Sandoval to the Padres happen. He is a COMPLETE sunk cost.
Yep…. Joe Fan has heard of Kemp and while it’s not millions I’m sure he sells tickets and jerseys.
Trade him of course if at all possible….. But if you’re gonna eat tens of millions and you’re not contending…..what’s the hurry?
Kemp does almost make me wish we had the DH in the NL though!
Hi every one you all have been tell Braves fans that one julio Tehran is not number one and at best low 2 more like a 3 or 4 so I going to give you 2 stat list not putting the names but using letters to display different first what most people will say are career #2 pitchers and the second will be what most people would say are aces -Number 1 pitchers / y=year in majors= GS = games started .Cwar = total career war .contract total money in contract
Arb = year to arb ready and f.a = is when they will be free agents . I think you will be surprise when you find out the career numbers of 1 the #2 and 2 the ace around baseball compare to julio Tehran
List 1 is of number 2
B.- 27–03—28–13–3.08–56—-339–63—368.2—3.3—-1.020–3.48-4-67,0 million
D. 31—09—54–65–4.04–143—969–344—1072.2-8.3—-1.267–3.82-4-79,2. million
List 2 is of number 1 tips/ Cwar is career total war / cy= contact years/ Tcm Total contract money / arg = year of arg /Fa year they become free agents/
th mean thousand / mil- millions / Na mean not apparel
You can figure out the rest
Now see if you all can figure out who any one on either one on list are . I think you will be surprise who is who
I’m a Braves fan so I want to believe anything good about Teheran but your proof is really difficult to take because of how hard it is to read it
When you are cursed to watch Kemp play every day you know he is bad, but until you look at the stats you really don’t have an idea of how bad. A negative WAR, -0.6. That means that if we called up Dickerson or Renfroe they would contribute more to a winning team than Kemp, but Kemp has to stay a Padre because we owe him $67.5 million for the balance of 2016 and 2017-2019. The Dodgers are paying him another $12.5 million. That whole situation with Kemp makes me throw up in my mouth a bit.
The padres should look into giving kemp days at 1st base. I mean look at what its done for wil myers, although more athletic than kemp. He’s got 0 value at RF defensively, but i think a move to 1st would keep him from using his legs as much which hes had issues with could restore some value cause he’d probably be less of a liability at 1st then RF. Should be having him practice at 1st and work on it over next off season. You can move him to 1st i can see AL teams being more inclined.
Hahaha no other team is going to be interested in using Kemp anywhere except as a DH. And he’s gonna have to get his OBP up to even have value there.
Kemps had leg/feet issues since he was a dodger. Moving him to 1st spares him from having to run around out there. Also, if he proves himself capable of playing 1st why wouldnt a team use him there? Well, kemp can play 1st decently, but lets not use him there ever and keep his bat out of the line up in nl games. Lets not switch our 1st and dh ever to have days off and not their bats still.
Cause, you know, kemps .246/.256/.463 w/ 14 hrs and 42 rbis so far is so much worse than guys playing 1st in the AL-clearly every 1st in al is so much better than him despite majority have less HRs and only 2 have more Rbis….and thats w him playing for the padres. Seriously, if he could play 1st imagine his bat with the orioles with davis trumbo machado. Kemp cant be any worse at 1st then Pedro alvarez….
But, again, if he proves capable of playing 1st and can handle it adequately its better than saying hes horrific in RF.
Because MLB first base is just your average beer league softball position, right?
last week, the Rangers put Fielder on first base for a game . He was so bad the next game Texas went with rookie Jurickson Profar at first, a position he had never played before.
I’d love if my Sox brought back Daniel Hudson
Yep, exactly! I just gave him the link to the article.
Kemp trade would have been a good deal for the Padres if Kemp was making as much money as Grandal or Eflin but he’s making way more.
The people busting out old school stats to try and prove Kemp’s value just kill me.
“old school stats” like runs? LOL who needs runs when you have WHIP !
How could I ever have known Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, Stan Musial and Ted Williams were great players without WHIP?
Well WHIP is used for pitchers and all the players you mentioned are position players, so it makes sense that you couldn’t apply it to them.
Overall, I’m just saying that Kemp is bad no matter how to try to look at it, and the Padres are now stuck with him.
and I’m saying Kemp is still producing the numbers the Padres could have expected when they traded for him. 30+ hr….100+ rbis. Yes, SD is stuck with him because of the contract. But that’s the result of baseball economics. It could be worse: Fielder, Hamilton, Choo, Sandoval, And if you want to bring up WAR for pitchers, fine. I didn’t need WAR to tell me Koufax, Marichal, Gibson, Seaver, Spahn, Ryan, Carlton were great pitchers. W-L, ERA, K’s…..told me all I needed to know.