10:40pm: The Indians are the “distinct favorites” to acquire Lucroy from the Brewers, reports Yahoo’s Jeff Passan (on Twitter), who adds that the Mets and Rangers are “out” on Lucroy.
7:58pm: A mystery team remains in the mix for Lucroy, according to Heyman (Twitter link). The unknown team is not on Lucroy’s no-trade list, he adds. Rosenthal hears the same, tweeting that there’s a third team in play along with the Indians and Mets.
5:05pm: The Rangers are out on Lucroy and the Mets didn’t make any headway on talks with the Brewers today, per ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick (Twitter links). Cleveland is looking more and more like the favorite, he notes.
4:40pm: The Brewers are “getting close” to a Lucroy trade, and the Indians are still in the mix, tweets Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. Notably, Cleveland is on Lucroy’s no-trade list, though it’s not clear how much (if at all) that fact would impede talks. Lucroy has stated his desire to play for a winning club multiple times this year, and Cleveland has a 4.5 game lead on the AL Central.
4:34pm: Rosenthal tweets that a pair of rival general managers believe the Indians to be the front-runners for Lucroy. Rosenthal mentions Class-A catcher Francisco Mejia as a possible component in a Lucroy package.
3:43pm: Manager Craig Counsell tells reporters that GM David Stearns is “progressing” on a Lucroy trade (Twitter link via MLB.com’s Adam McCalvy). USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that there is a “strong sense” among some Brewers officials that Lucroy has played his final game for the team.
3:31pm: Lucroy isn’t in the lineup tonight, and Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel tweets that he is not playing because he is being discussed in trades.
2:00pm:Â The Mets have made a three-player offer to the Brewers in a bid to land catcher Jonathan Lucroy, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports on Twitter. That package would be centered around current Mets receiver Travis d’Arnaud, with outfielder Brandon Nimmo or a “comparable” player constituting the second player on offer.
Previous reports had suggested that New York fell shy in its initial bid for Lucroy, which reportedly also was built on the talented but fragile d’Arnaud. He comes with three years of arb control and has long been regarded as a top catching prospect, so Milwaukee would be swapping in a longer-term solution behind the plate — if it believes in him.
Though d’Arnaud has showed his talent at times, he has also already been shelved with injuries at times and hasn’t yet put it all together at the plate. After a strong showing in 2015, d’Arnaud has fallen back to a .238/.291/.323 batting line with a pair of home runs in his 141 plate appearances this season.
As for Nimmo, Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets that Milwaukee is “fond” of the 23-year-old, who has reached the majors for the first time this year. He hasn’t shown much in his brief action in the bigs, but has enjoyed something of a breakout year at Triple-A, where he owns a .336/.409/.517 slash that dwarfs his prior output while rising through the system.
There certainly appear to be many other teams still in pursuit of Lucroy. The Brewers reportedly asked interested teams to submit bids for the outstanding receiver, whose highly favorable contract includes another year of cheap control. Lucroy received plenty of attention in the rumor mill yesterday, with a range of teams — including those of the mysterious variety — said to be sniffing around.
It’s not yet clear, though, what kinds of offers Milwaukee has fielded from other organizations. The club has placed an understandably high asking price on a player who is one of the best in the majors at a premium defensive position. There may not be any single team that has a desperate need for him, but as the Mets’ interest shows, clubs looking for ways to make and succeed in the postseason always have cause to pursue upgrades, and Lucroy is the type of player who can push out even a perfectly solid regular.
So in other words. One good prospect then a bum of a so called catcher. It’s amazing teams still answer the mets phone calls
Make it happen Sandy. This offense needs Lucroy. Any minor leaguer excluding Rosario/Dom Smith.
I’m in no way saying either or both need to be included but when you approach the situation with “untouchable” or just some frame of excluding what’s needed in return, you may as well just not bothering to try. This isn’t the “we’ll trade our crap for your player b/c its how we want it” league.
Couldn’t disagree more. This is a player that makes the Mets better, and the Mets should approach the negotiation at least with Rosario off the table. I think we should bother to try because we’re chasing a pennant! But know your limits going in Sandy. Also, that’s by no means a crap package. The Brewers get a high potential catcher with more control than Lucroy, plus a potential middle of the lineup outfield bat and another prospect. That’s not crap.
It is with the injuries. He does the organization no good when he is on the bench. Also the Brewers are loaded with catching prospects.
Then you should keep it, imo. B/C I’m pretty sure the Brewers opinion is vastly different than yours!
That’s the problem. The Brewers aren’t required to obtain a catcher in return and we have 3 OF prospects in MLB’s top 100. While there is no doubt Nimmo is an asset, I don’t think the Brewers would value him as much as the Mets do.
Milwaukee should not except a trade without both Rosario and Dom smith included
Eat us, Brewer.
Well then keep him and enjoy the comp pick when he walks
I would actually rather have the comp pick than that package discussed above. Also the Brewers don’t have to trade him at the deadline. They can always wait until the offseason when there will be more teams looking for catching.
Or they can trade him somewhere else between now and the end of NEXT season. The Brewers have all the leverage in the world right now because they don’t have to trade Lucroy anywhere right now.
I don’t think a team has ever excepted a trade
Be fair your catcher and one of the top1 or2 minor leaguers and a A league Pitcher is fair for the third best catcher in the NL
I’m a cub fan
Nimmo is 3rd best and who is the second best catcher?
You wouldn’t get Rosario straight up for Lucroy. You are dreaming…..
I’m starting to think the Mets should consider becoming sellers. In this extreme sellers market it just seems like this isn’t the Mets year. If I was Alderson I would send out feelers on Walker-who is not living up to a QO lately, Cabrera, Granderson, Loney, De Aza, Colon, Bastardo, Blevins, Reed,Verrett and Flores. Obviously they would be selling low on a lot of these guys and may have to eat some money. I would even consider Cespedes if he agrees to wave his no trade clause, which he should as then he would not have a QO attached when he opts out this offseason. I’m sure at best they could only unload 2-3 of these guys in the less than 2 days left before the trade deadline. That way it isn’t a tear down but more of a revamp for next year when you can have Harvey and Wheeler back, and start over with a couple of more prospects.
I don’t want to see them trade away Nimmo, but it’ll probably take him and D’Arnaud…and then some
I hope this doesn’t happen!!
The Brewers don’t need a backup catcher that can’t stay healthy. I would rather get a pitching prospect and a third or first base prospect. Other teams match up better for the Brewers needs.
Well the Brewers do need to trade Lucroy for prospects if they want to build got the future but they would need d’Arnaud, Nimmo, Gavin Cecchini, Peter Alonso, David Thompson and Seth Lugo (or something like that). Brewers would need to surrender a lower level ‘spect or two but package similar to what was mentioned should be was the Brewers seek.
If the Brewers accepted that offer they officially got owned. Relievers have gotten better packages than that
not sure why the brew crew would even want d’Arnaud. was he hyped? yes but the injuries are piling up and for a catcher in the NL that’s not good. look at Mesoraco. great talent but unfortunately injuries catch up quickly to catchers. I would look at nimmo Lindsay and Thomas nido for smith and lucroy
Yanks02026 sounds like a Yankee fan who would not like any deal that might help the Mets
Exactly
Yankee fans are delusional, as well as ignorant.
You can say that about a lot of fan bases in these forums. Yankees, Red Sox, Braves, Cubs to name a few.
Come on Indians!! You’ve got a deep and talented farm system and you NEED Lucroy!! Open up the “trade wallet” and get the deal done before the Mets do!!! The Mets aren’t going anywhere anyway!!!
If they can do it without giving up Clint Frazier or Bradley Zimmer, then why not do a deal. And if they can find a way to get will smith in there too, that’s the cherry on top.
If they want both they still may be able to get it done without those 2. Bradley, Clevenger/Sheffield, Mejia, and a minor piece or two could do it.
Don’t count out the Red Sox, especially with Dombrowski at the helm now! He operates quick and with prospects. Remember what he did with Detroit
I would be satisfied with that offer. But I really would love to see either Frazier or Zimmer included. Just greedy I guess.
Seems like decent offer, would boost the Mets offense for sure.
I’m sure it seems decent from the prospective of a Mets fan but as a Brewers fan I am incredibly underwhelmed. If this catcher the Mets are offering was going to pan out he would have already. He might as well be Lucroy’s age with all the injuries he’s had. Nimmo is a nice player to be sure, but not the type of prospect the Brewers should require for Lucroy. So the Mets are offering an average at best catcher who has a history of injuries, a likely future average player at a position that the Brewers have depth at, and a likely lottery ticket for an all-star catcher with another year of control at a bargain salary. If that is truly the best the Brewers can get, I hold onto Lucroy if I am Stearns. It simply doesn’t make the Brewers better now or in the future, so why do it?
I hope the Brewers end up trading with Boston or Cleveland instead as their prospects are better and match up better with Milwaukee’s needs (pitching and corner infielders). If Stearns can get Devers from Boston in a trade for Lucroy I would be very pleased.
The Tribe could offer up Bobby Bradley and Clevinger/Sheffield/or other pitching prospect. Might take a little more, especially if they want to get one of their relievers too but that seems like a good start for both sides
Lucroy is coming to New York it’s facts
Lucroy goes to NY every year. It’s the schedule
I would upvote this comment if I could. I actually lol’d when I read it
Don’t think the Mets have what it will take to get Lecroy without being outbid by Boston and Cleveland. One of them will get LeCroy, depending who wants him more. Both teams have the farms to get what they want
It’s facts? Lol. Obviously – Its nots
Sounds like a decent offer if you’re a Mets fan, sure. Not so much on the cheesehead side, though.
Yeah, that does seem light for Lucroy. I think there are other teams that match-up better for Milwaukee
The Red Sox should offer the Brewers the following: let them choose one young catcher from the three they have in Christian Vazquez, Blake Swihart and Sandy Leon to lead the package of 1Base Sam Travis, LHP Brian Johnson, 3 Base Michael Chavis and RHP Travis Lakins.
Jose, I am in agreement with you. Red Sox should offer (my suggestion) Vasquez, B.Johnson , M.Chavis along with Travis Lakin. That would make sense for the Red Sox and Milwaukee. That combo is better then what the Mets can offer. Doesn’t make sense for the Mets to give up prospects from a thin farm system, and they are not spenders to be most likely able to resign him after next year
Sterns will be mainly looking at the Catcher in return and stud SP (Johnson or Owens). If they think those guys are low lever picks, you don’t know the farm systems of Boston or other teams
Slingin Stearns will not trade lucroy for a 4th outfielder, backup catcher, and low level lottery pick. Hang up the phone on these guys.
Travis d’Arnaud is no longer a “piece” for any trade package, he’s a PTBNL at this point – hyped and a proven bust. Looking back at the Halladay trade, Blue Jays got hosed.
Most teams that trade an ace get hosed. There are definitely a few exceptions (Erik Bedard, Zack Greinke 1), but usually the team acquiring the ace does best in the deal.
Mets hosed the Jays on the Dickey trade. They got Syndergaard(top 5 era nl) D’arnaud who may be exchanged for Lucroy and got Buerreca who could be a another fret piece in the trade and a decent catcher in buck who was a upgrade over the catchers they traded thole and nickeas
Agreed! Boston’s Vasquez is a better option then D’Arnaud. Put in Swihart and you have a stud of the future
Except Swihart isn’t catching lol.
he is a Catcher brought up. He wasn’t catching in Boston, due to having a need in the OF and Vasquez is a superior defensive catcher to Swihart. Swihart is going to be, as mentioned by numerous expert, stud hitter.
Whoever gets traded for Lucroy will suck. It’s in the Brewers DNA. If Willie Mays was a Brewer he’d be a “player to be named later.”
Lol
The Brewers can do better for Lucroy and if not, I’d rather seem them keep him, versus the weak “pass the trash” offer from the Mets. Would love to see a deal with Cleveland for one of their stud AAA Outfielder stars in the making.
That’s a slap in the face offer
Lucroy isn’t the most valuable trade chip on the market this year, and that offer is awful. He’s worthy of at least one top 25 prospect and another in the top 100.
What a awful trade for the Brewers. A injury prone catcher who can’t hit and a OF who’s not even in the top 100 and who the Brewers have better OF prospects already in the minors. The Brewers should laugh into the phone and say call us when you are going to make a real offer.
Dom Smith, Brandon Nimmo, Wilmer Flores and Rafael Montero for Lucroy and Wil Smith.
The Brewers obviously wanted Flores last year and probably still do, smith gives them a solid first base prospect, nimmo in the Of and a young pitcher In montero who has nowhere to go in NY.
Mets get the catcher they need and left handed relief in the pen that hey need because bastardo is not getting it done and Blevins can’t do it alone or keep it up.
I don’t know if you can assume that they obviously wanted Flores. He was a second piece in a deal where they wanted Wheeler. With the emergence of Villar he will be at 3B with Arcia at SS and Flores doesn’t even start.
I just can’t imagine another scenario where they turn him down or don’t ask for him. He could play third and villar moves to second or vice versa.
That’s a good proposal.
Not to mention the fact that it’s a completely different front office in Milwaukee so you can’t base any assumptions off last year.
Everybody w/ a pulse knows the crew has been trying to shop Lucroy since late in the 2015 season. His market must really suck hind tit, if this is one the best offers out there. Surely they have passed on better offers than this between 2015 and now. Wait until the offseason.
I’m wondering who the Indians are offering for him. They’ve been linked to him for awhile now.
Who said its one of the best offers? It’s just the only offer being reported, rumors were the Mets were not the top offer.
It’s amazing that relievers would get so much more than what lucroy may get..I wouldn’t want Nimmo or d’arnaud
As a Mets fan, I would have to agree that that package would be light for Lucroy. If they pulled that off the Brewers would be getting the short end of the stick. They’d have a decent OF prospect in Nimmo, which they already have a crowded field of them, and an average yet injury prone catcher in d’Arnaud.
The Mets low balling the value of Lucroy and high praise of an injury prone catcher that will never be much better than he is now is just a slap in the face. Brewers don’t need a catcher or a catching prospect!!! If the deal isn’t exciting for the Brewers then don’t deal him now and wait until the offseason or until next year. Hopefully Boston or Cleveland can get a nice package going for Lucroy and smith and we have another 3-4 players that will be on a very good young team in 3-5 years.
For his sake don’t trade him to the second rate organization Mets. I can’t remember a move they have made that hasn’t been botched.
I don’t view this as a must for the crew. He’s 30. Can play both catcher and 1st and won’t require 100mill to keep him, just show him love and a winning product. Accelerate the process of winning and keep him if you can get a commitment. And if not, stick to your guns and ask for the farm for him!
Ummm remember a trade that involved a guy named Mike Piazza?
I think Cespedes turned out decent last year. Maybe only mediocre Clippard, Reed, And Johnson were mediocre as well.
As a met fan u think Lucriy is overhyped, I personally don’t want him, he will not put us over the top. Relievers are getting more because they are more valuable than a decent catcher
That last sentence proves that you know nothing about baseball. Thanks for sharing now I know to take nothing you say seriously.
So according to your comment I am guessing you believe Lucroy is more valuable than chapman, don’t get me wrong Lucroy is good but he will not put the mets over the top. So I don’t wanna mortgage what little we have for a decent catcher that might make us a little better
I believe that 14 months of Lucroy and a possible QO next year is more valuable than 2 months of Chapman with no QO possible. Lucroy is not an absolute guarantee of a WS title, but then again neither is anyone else. You should know how valuable the Cespedes acquisition was last season and there were doubters when that trade happened as well.
don’t matter what we think! The trend is SP & RP are costing much much more then position players
I see your point, I just think chaan can put the Cubs over the top and Lucroy won’t for the mets
Lucroy is a top 2 catcher in the NL
Lucroy is hitting .300 this season compared to D’Arnaud’s .240
Lucroy is a valued catcher and is not overhyped. Mets have a true bust calling games for them now. Lucroy is a top 5 catcher.
Lucroy can put the Mets over, like Cepedes didn’t in 2015. That was a bad statement
Why are Yankee fans trolling this Mets post?
If Stearns excepts this I will have lost some trust in him. One prospect that isn’t even a sure thing and a vet catcher that is not an asset at this point? Ugh. Maybe it is the best offer out there but I find that hard to believe.
If that’s the best deal you don’t take that. One more reason to see he won’t demand a lot on the open market.
It could mean a Trade is going to happen today and don’t want him to get Injured today.
Also should cancel all Games on trade Deadline Day and move Deadline to midnight.
All the games on deadline day(August 1st) are well after the 3pm deadline.
Yes but more Trades would happen if it was at Midnight becuase some guys won’t make it thru Waviers.
Correct me if I’m wrong because I don’t pay attention to the Mets farm system, but isn’t Nimmo one of their top prospects?
He’s ranked 5th but the Mets farm system is bad. Brewers have better OF prospects in their minors then him already.
I don’t understand all the saltiness. Sure, it’s a cheap offer, but if the Brewers accept it, then that’s their fault. Nothing wrong with making an offer- some baseball fans here take trade offers too personal.
That said, I really don’t like the deal for the Brewers. I think I’d literally rather have a comp pick.
Coppy makes the trade for McCann. Then packages 7 players, 4 prospects for Mike Trout
Oh, so you want to make the baseball equivalent of the Herschel Walker trade then? You trade 11 players/prospects to the Angels and you have basically traded places with them. Newsflash, they have Trout and still suck. Good luck with that.
All you Brewer fans can SMD you guys suck and will forever suck that’s why Lucroy is coming to NY LMFAOOO
Popcorn muscles. It’s nice of your mom to leave the parental lock off the keyboard for you today Timmy.
Omg rekt
Lol
Stay classy!!! I’m glad that not all fans from NY are like you. We suck because of why??? As a fan I know that I don’t want a damaged goods sloppy seconds catcher. He sucks and that is all I have to say about him. The Mets don’t match up with the Brewers needs!!!!!
Stay classy Lmfaoo
What was it like being raised by CHUDs in NY, sportfeen?
I’m not even from NY LMFAOO
He could be out of the lineup for any reason. I don’t know why people are jumping to conclusions about his being traded.
For example, do we know what kind of jerseys they’re supposed to wear tonight?
As weak as these offers seem for Lucroy, I’m wonder if the Astros can over offer Gattis plus prospects?
I almost feel like the mets have to get him now. With d’Arnaud being included in all the offers, it’s basically FO telling him you’re not the guy.
The FO needs to do a better honey of keeping things quiet. You hear potential names back and forth on most speculated trades but not firmly that one guy is definitely who they want to move, especially when you have to trust him to be your starting catcher if he’s not traded. Can’t be good for his confidence if he does stay put.
Yeah, the mets FO leaks like a screen door on the Titanic
So I hope Lucroy goes to Cleveland. Better prospects would come back. Also then we would get to see Mets fans blow up saying Lucroy sucks we don’t want him all the players we would have traded were not worth him anyways.
Lucroy is coming to NY that’s it he’ll final win a ring with us
Yuck Nimmo is having a good year but he sucked the previous years. I think Lucroy is going to Texas or Cleveland
Hope if it’s the Indians it’s a deal like Lucroy and Will Smith for Mejia, Bradley, Clevinger, and Diaz.
I’d prefer a second pitcher to Diaz. Hillman, Morimando or Plutko maybe. Clevenger or Sheffield could be interchanged. Zimmer or Frazier over Bradley would be ideal, but I don’t see that happening.
I think he’s going to Cleveland or Boston
I’d be shocked if he went to the Mets. I think he’s going to Cleveland. Their prospects match up better than the trade the Mets are trying to piece together. (Mets fan btw)
Between Boston and Cleveland, I would say Cleveland 80% chance on acquiring him, Boston 20%. I think Boston is looking to make another splash with SP. If I was a betting man, I think they are quietly trying for Sale or Gray
Braves swap Markakis for Matt Kemp.
Then make this move to the Angels
Halos get: Albeis, Vizcaino, Kemp, Inciarte, Jenkins, Teheran, Sorako, and Banuelos
Braves Get: Mike Trout
Thanks for making everyone dumber
Smh
I’m much happier to hear it’s the Indians!!! They have a much better minor league system and have more to offer than the mets. Would be nice if Smith or another reliever will be dealt along with him. Lucroy is a great presence and will be greatly missed but this is what the Brewers need to do for the future.
This is a real missed opportunity for Boston. Lucroy would be a monster in that lineup and Boston has the farm depth to make this deal w/out it being noticed.
I agree norcalblue. Lucroy is a perfect fit in the Red Sox lineup, and will make that pitching staff better without adding another SP. His bat is made for Fenway. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are the mystery team, they have been very quiet and that is not normal with Dombrowski. Boston has been quietly linked to him the entire time. You can bet he is up to something. This would be cheaper for them instead of giving up top prospects to land Sale or Sonny Gray. Lucroy will also improve Boston’s pitching
I’m seeing anecdotal reports that Mets Single A pitcher PJ Conlon got pulled for non-injury reasons and was seen hugging teammates in the dugout. Not necessarily Lucroy related, but something may be coming together for the Mets.
Conlon’s peripherals look great, but he gets by on pretty fringe stuff (scouting reports have his fastball at 86-90 MPH). He might be enough to get Torres or Carter, but at this point, I really hope the Brewers wont even pick up the phone for the Mets… their offers for Lucroy have been beyond terrible.
I agree!!
Whatttttt? Red Sox have Leon who is a monster! They have 4 catchers that could catch for them and day! Hannigan, Swihart, Vazquez, Leon. Why would the Red Sox give up huge talent for a talented catcher when they have 3 talented catchers (not Hannigan)????? @norcalblue
I’m guessing because Lucroy is a stud now!! Boston is better off with an established catcher now rather than waiting for the development of the younger guys.
Not sure anyone confined the Red Sox are the mystery team so all speculation at this point
Is Boston on Lucroys list??? Are the Red Sox the third mystery team??? they have been linked to him the entire time
I’m still saying the Nationals are the “mystery” team. With the Melancon trade they held onto most of the top prospects and they could still use a bat, and also coincidently just lost a catcher to the DL. It’s the backup catcher, but Rizzo has known to pull stunning trades out of nowhere that nobody see’s coming and this could be one of them. Nobody is even talking about it.
but with Ramos having a career year, Lucroy wouldn’t make sense to get and give up prospects, ????
As a Mets fan, and absolutely nothing against Lucroy, because he’s awesome, but I think we’d be SO much better off keeping Nimmo and d’Arnaud.
I really think Nimmo will be a nice player and I still believe in d’Arnaud.
here is Jonathon Lucroy’s “no Trade List” in which he can block a trade too:
Twins, Angels, Athletics, Padres, Mariners, Nationals and, most interestingly, the Indians and Tigers.
Lucroy already said he wants to win. I’m sure with the best record in the al he’d wave it
I would agree, I think he would waive it to Cleveland. Lucroy would be a good fit for both teams
I’ve said this from the beginning and am sticking to it. He will go to either Cleveland or Boston! Could be wrong, we’ll see
Dodgers are the mystery team. Book it. Outside the teams already known to be involved (or to have dropped out of the running) no other contender has a need for catcher quite like they do. And given the sheer volume of prospects they acquired int he 2015 international signing period, they could easily find something that interests the Brewers.
Thank goddddd the mets are out. I’d like some of their bats but they have noooo pitching prospects in the minors besides wheeler who has barely pitched in the last two years. Cleveland and the mystery team which may exist just to push up the price from Cleveland
Lucroy Vetoes trade
Maybe NY will step in but will be a mistake. He is not a NY player if He didn’t take this deal. Who wouldn’t want a chance to win a WS and catch salazar and Klubber. What a weak move.
shocked Lucroy vetoed the trade. Thought he wanted to go to a contender, well Cleveland appears to be a shoe in to make the playoffs.
Who will he go to now???