12:57pm: The Marlins announced that Rea has indeed been traded back to San Diego in exchange for Castillo. In essence, then, last Friday’s swap boils down to Miami acquiring Cashner and Guerrero in exchange for Cosart, Naylor and Capps.
12:52pm: The Marlins will be getting Castillo back from the Padres, tweets Rosenthal.
12:49pm: In a fairly stunning bit of news, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports that the Marlins will send right-hander Colin Rea back to the Padres (links to Twitter). Rea left his Marlins debut with an elbow injury and was quickly placed on the 15-day disabled list with an elbow sprain. Yahoo’s Jeff Passan tweets that the Marlins were “absolutely livid” and felt as though they were traded damaged goods by the Padres. Rosenthal notes that the exact structuring of the deal isn’t exactly clear, but the Padres will effectively trade Rea back to San Diego in a separate deal and keep Andrew Cashner, who came to Miami along with Rea in Friday’s seven-player trade.
Rea fired off 3 1/3 shutout innings in his Marlins debut, allowing just a lone hit and no walks with four strikeouts before departing with the aforementioned elbow injury. It’s not clear precisely how Miami will be compensated in this instance, as the swap is virtually unprecedented in nature. The Marlins sent first base prospect Josh Naylor, hard-throwing Class-A righty Luis Castillo, injured reliever Carter Capps and right-hander Jarred Cosart to the Padres in that deal in exchange for Rea, Cashner and right-hander Tayron Guerrero.
What???
This tells me that Colin Rea was already hurt before the trade. Bad news for San Diego.
He threw 3.1 innings of 1 hit baseball for the Marlins (with I think 5 Ks and 1 bb, both better than his rate for the season), so I’m not sure he was damaged goods… Shit happens
Teams do physicals for players before approving deals. Doubt the marlins went into this not knowing this if the injury was pre existent. More like an injury happened, bad luck type of deal, and they’re blaming the padres so the marlins fan base doesn’t start chirping about it. Padres DIDNT have to trade castillo for rea unless the marlins could prove without a doubt the padres hid the medical information from the marlins…….doubt they could because it mostly likely didn’t happen that way.
It should be Rea and a prospect for Paddack.
Why would Padres give Paddack back? He had sub 1.00 era before and after the trade. His injury will cost him time in AA but shouldn’t change his ETA?
Already the best deadline in recent memory. For this alone
“In his Padres debut” – Marlins… Feel free to delete this…
lmao what!
Suck it up as a bad luck loss. No give backs. Wtf.
he was hurt when they sent him
You do realize that the Marlins gave him a physical including and MRI before the trade was finalized AND that he was lights out before being taken out of that game he pitched for the Marlins right? Then how could he be hurt before the trade? Sometimes the idiocy is astounding.
Do Padres when the give back trade too, Rea for their #15 prospect? Keep in mind Rea never gave up a run as a Marlin and looked dominant thru 3 innings. Preller originally said he didn’t want to add him but did to get Capps and Cosart added to the deal.
They’re getting Castillo back.
They should send them Paddack back.
It’s funny that the team that traded a guy recovering from TJ surgery, in THIS deal, is complaining about receiving damaged goods. Not to mention the fact that the prospect they traded to SD for Rodney went down with TJ surgery after the trade as well. But you just be livid. Only Jeffrey Loria. smh
Not to mention the guy the Padres received in the previous trade with Miami is already having Tommy John and only had a handful of starts for us. They should have sent Paddack back for Rea. Not Castillo. Just a couple of poorly ran organizations doing laughable things.
yea but the Padres had already known that. Rea was “healthy” but now proven to have had problems before the trade
Proven by whom? You? There’s absolutely no word of any trouble prior to the trade. The Marlins were unlucky, simple as that. Preller didn’t have to take Rea back, but he did to ease tensions (from a crybaby).
I think it’s more because it’s a good deal for the Padres. If the Marlins were trying to shaft them on the return, it may have become more contentious.
Sorry, I meant the Marlins were crying, so Preller played the good guy and agreed to take Rea back. He didn’t want the Marlins to be impossible to deal with in the future.
Rea was fine before the trade. He got hurt in his first start – unlucky. Cashner is an injury waiting to happen too. What happens when he goes down?
Correction: he got hurt after pitching for weeks with padres, Rea said he felt pain warming up before the start, one day after the trade. Obviously different circumstances.
The padres knew they were getting a guy that was recovering, the marlins thought they were getting a healthy pitcher that they could throw right into the rotation. I wish they hadnt done either trade, Rodney has been complete crap which anyone could have guessed. In my opinion cashner for cosart would have been a wash I dont know why anyone would ever give up any more for him.
*Marlins debut
Fingers crossed Capps returns!!
Looks like Rea for Castillio swap.
Hell, I didn’t know players came with a warranty?
The Rangers purchased 4 year extended warranty on Prince Fielder in the Ian Kinsler trade… we’d like to file a claim, lol
Is this even possible? They going to get pennies on the dollar for rea back?
Two dumb organziations
100%. Mediocre franchises, doing mediocre things. Nothing new here.
There is a return policy on trades? I didn’t know that lol
No, it’s a brand new trade, Padres trading for Rea on the cheap.
It’s like a mini trade-back.
Aren’t teams supposed to perform physicals prior to trades?
Isn’t this why they do physicals before a trade…… you know, medical clearance and whatnot. Pretty sure that’s what nixed the Gomez to NY trade last year and what Bruce is going through in his current trade as we speak. IMO Miami has no one to blame but themselves.
EDIT: And the medical issue holding up the Bruce deal isn’t about Bruce. It is about one of the minor leaguers they’ll receive in exchange for Bruce. So yeah, they apparently do physicals and medical checks even on lowly minor leaguers. Again, Miami has no one to blame but themselves and their crap job at medically evaluating the players they’re acquiring. Breaking News Miami, as a Cubs fan I can tell you that Cashner is a constant injury waiting to happen. Pads fans will likely agree. So don’t be shocked if he’s on the DL before the year wraps up.
Twice and neither time for his arm.
The prospect received from the Marlins for Rodney already needs TJ Surgery as well…
but that was already disclosed
they are talking about Paddack not Capps
Yeah…… but Rodney is sucking pretty hard in Miami so call it a draw, hahahaha.
Agreed. But give Rodney props for remembering to adjust his cap crookedly after every pitch
but the Padres knew that. Padres said Rea was healthy when he wasn’t…
You’re making that up. He seemed pretty healthy for the start of the game.
Marlins did a physical on him I’d guess. They’d have found any injuries in his elbow if he was already injured. It’s on them.
Sounds like bad luck to me. Paddock is having TJ so does that mean we (the Padres) can redo our trade with Rodney! They should have done a complete physical before they threw him out there. Who says that they knew he was sore and decided to pitch him anyways.
Isn’t this why teams have doctors, to perform physicals before completing a trade?
Yeah, I’m wondering the same thing — isn’t this something that would be worked out prior to finalizing the deal?
Reminds me of 2003 trade between Red Sox and Pirates involving Brandon Lyon. Traded to PIT 7-22-03. Traded back to BOS in 7-31-03 deal that netted PIT Freddy Sanchez.
Mike Gonzalez in that original deal as well i think…?
padres should be livid the marlins sent damaged goods Chris paddock over then
He pitched effectively for 3 innings right? And he had to pass a physical. Unless The Padres admitted to selling ” damaged goods” I wouldn’t recommend acquire him unless the league made me.
And if they did, this is the beginning of the end of Preller. If that hadnt already begun.
I just don’t see how this is allowed or why the Padres would agree to this
Padres didn’t want to trade Rea in the 1st place (he’s more valuable than Cashner). To get him back for their now #15 prospect isn’t that bad of a DL? Even if he does have TJ, everyone claims Padres aren’t competing in 2017. Rea eventually goes back into the rotation. Maybe by end of year if MRI comes back alright.
A #4-5 SP needing TJ surgery for the #15 prospect is not a good deal. Castillo might throw a MLB pitch before Rea is back on the mound, and unlike Rea, Castillo has a lot more upside than Rea’s “soaking up 150 IP with a 4.50 era”
Weird now flip Castillo and a random for Hellickson
Mike Sirotka for David Wells damaged goods trade 2001. Caveat emptor be damned?
Someone get this man an editor. Every damn post.
Really? Who knows how much sleep these guys have had in the past week, plus trying to keep up with everything going on.
I forgot, how much do you pay for this website/app…
Well that’s nice of SD…
so the cardinals should tell the marlins the need to forfeit the game rea pitched.
Why would the Padres agree to this?
Lol, Miami keeps being Preller’s b**ch! -I’m sure the Marlins had a physical for Rea and Cashner, why should the Padres take Rea back?? Marlins got burned and they know it, Padres should refuse to send back anything for Rea.
These comments are funny. What’s the big deal? Luis Castillo, a 23 year old who has not pitched above A ball (aka too old for the level) is being sent back for a player who has actual MLB experience. Yes Rea may be out for a while, but Castillo might never get out of the minors. Either way this is not significant. The Padres are doing it so they don’t carry the bad reputation of possibly trading known injured players. That’s it. No big loss to them. The Marlins will avoid having to potentially stash a player on the DL for a year+. Again, it’s Colin Rea. Obviously the big part of the deal was Cashner and the Padres aren’t taking him back (yet) so he is probably healthy. At least they didn’t do something stupid like send back Naylor.
There are precedents, though. In 1996 the Yankees acquired Graeme Lloyd, Pat Listach and a player to be named later in exchange for Bob Wickman and Gerald Williams.
Pat Listach was injured when he got to the Yankees, he had suffered a broken foot and the Brewers never sent him to the DL, later arguing they thought it was a bruise. As soon as the Yankees noticed that issue they notified MLB about what the comissioner’s team did. The Brewers sent Ricky Bones as the player-to-be-named-later BUT he was also injured, he only pitched two games before they noticed; both teams arraigned a deal to trade back Listach for a different player (Gabby Martínez), a trade made valid at the end of the season since MLB required for Listach to be on the DL or the Yankees already had put him on the DL to fill his spot in the roster.
Bones returned towards the end of the season to pitch two more games. Bones was let go at the end of the season while Listach’s trade back to the Brewers was made right before the beginning of the playoffs and immediately granted free agency by the Brewers.
The marlins traded 2 pitchers with Tommy John in Capps and Paddack stop barking Fish.. but still with Rea back and Cosart are way better than Cashner and Rea… plus we have their main prospect 1b Josh Naylor and next year Capps.. still SD Padres win the Deal.. :)
I am still a fan of the deal for the Padres and that gives us a little more SP depth next year especially if we move Ross in the offseason. Rea has good stuff when he is on and he has plenty of cheap years of control left.
Yeah there’s no way Rea was hurt before the trade. I think this is simply a class move by the young Preller, who just gained a good measure of respect from rival GMs. Probably not in the Pads best interests right now, but it’s possible that teams could be more willing to trade with Preller in the future, especially when it counts more. You’ll never see it on paper, but he may have just added a nice intangible to his resume.
Couldn’t have said it better. You don’t want to burn bridges, the Padres have done a lot of deals with the Marlins in recent history and you don’t want to create bad blood.
Trading them Rea and then him getting injured isn’t creating bad blood any more than the Marlins trading us Paddack and then him getting injured is.
I agree. Even though part of the trade was botched, Preller did a good thing, and overall it still looks good for the Padres. There’s no need to create tension with another organization.
So the Marlins gave up naylor, cosart an capps for a 2 month rental of cashner (fingers crossed he stays healthy) an guerrero who has an era over 4 in the minors.. Nice job Marlins front office u have depleted wat was left of an already weak farm system for a injury prone rental.. Nice job!!
Barring another trade of Rea this will be one heck of a career if he is a life long padre.
Remember that one time in 2016 when Rea made one start for the Marlins but then was shipped back to the Padres and finished his career there?
Be one hell of story to tell future kids.
The fact the Padres took Rea back almost makes it seem like they are admitting they knew he was damaged
Even though it was handled well and the trade still looks good for the Padres, it’s still pretty surprising that something like this would happen. Only the Padres would run into this kind of situation, haha.
So that idiot Preller gave back the only good piece in that trade because of what? There is no way to know that Rea would get hurt. What a crock of garbage.
Sorry for the rant. Forgot about Naylor.
I really wish you would change your handle. You must be a Dodgers fan in disguise.
Yeah, apparently you havent seen what rodney, miller, chapman, kimbrel, and giles have brought back in trades in recent years.
Capps posted a 3.10 xfip in 2014 and a 1.17 xfip in 2015. He comes back from tjs healthy and posts similar numbers padres could wind up with a HUGE haul considering the team trading for him will have 1.5 years if hes traded by the deadline next year.
And you’re upset about the return for… Andrew Cashner? You mean the guy who can’t stay healthy or good and is gone after this year anyway?
Wow this is a dangerous precedent being set. If I was the Padres I would tell the Marlins to pound sand.