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Trade Chatter: A’s, Giants, Yankees, McCutchen, Avila, Dodgers

By Steve Adams | June 29, 2017 at 9:02pm CDT

Though Sonny Gray has garnered most of the headlines in Athletics trade rumors, Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle writes that Jed Lowrie, Sean Doolittle and Ryan Madson are all drawing interest as well. The A’s are hoping to move Lowrie to clear a spot for prospect Franklin Barreto to play in the Majors on a full-time basis, she notes. Barreto is currently getting at-bats, but Oakland also has Marcus Semien on the mend and returning perhaps in a week or more. Doolittle and Madson are both in the midst of strong seasons, although the injury-prone Doolittle has been limited to 14 2/3 innings. Madson, meanwhile, looks even better than he did in his 2015 comeback; he’s averaging 9.8 K/9 against 1.9 BB/9 with a 54.4 percent ground-ball rate, leading to a 2.35 ERA. Of course, he’s also earning $7.5MM this year and next, and his contract calls for incentives for finishing games, which could make the price even more steep. The Rangers, Cubs, Blue Jays, Red Sox, Braves and Astros have all been scouting Oakland recently, according to Slusser.

Some more trade chatter from around the game…

  • The Giants aren’t looking to rebuild so much as they’re looking to reload, president Larry Baer tells Alex Pavlovic of CSN Bay Area. Baer acknowledged that the 2017 campaign hasn’t been anything close to what the organization had hoped, but he also indicated that even if the front office moves some veterans this summer, the ultimate goal will be to return to contention in 2018. “Directionally it’s, ‘How can we get right back there in 2018,” said Baer. “It’s not how can we get right back there in 2022 or 2021.” Pavlovic notes that it’s possible the Giants could try to trade Johnny Cueto and still re-sign him this winter if he exercises his opt-out clause with a new team, and Baer wouldn’t rule out that possibility, simply stating that it was “possible” but declining to speculate too heavily.
  • The Yankees are looking for bullpen help “right now,” writes FanRag’s Jon Heyman as part of his weekly American League Notes column. The duo of Aroldis Chapman and Dellin Betances is formidable in the late innings, but the recent struggles of Tyler Clippard and others have GM Brian Cashman on the lookout. Cashman told Heyman that the Yankees aren’t looking for a first baseman at the moment, though recent injury news regarding Tyler Austin and Greg Bird, of course, could change that line of thinking in a hurry.
  • There’s been no serious talk between the Pirates and other clubs regarding Andrew McCutchen just yet, reports MLB.com’s Jon Morosi. Part of the reason for that is the parity that exists in Wild Card races, as many teams that could eventually add some veteran pieces remain uncertain that they’ll be in the hunt a month from now.
  • Also via Morosi, Tigers catcher Alex Avila is “on the radar” of the Cubs and the Blue Jays. Avila has had a staggering turnaround in his return to Detroit, hitting a ridiculous .315/.431/.586 with 11 homers while earning just a $2MM salary on a one-year deal. While many fans are understandably skeptical of Avila’s turnaround, I’ll point out that Avila’s 57 percent hard-hit rate leads all players with at least 190 plate appearances, and he entered play Thursday tied with teammate J.D. Martinez for the third-highest average exit velocity in baseball (93.7 mph), trailing only Aaron Judge and Miguel Sano. Avila has always had a massive walk rate, as well, and that’s been the case once again in 2017 (16.4 percent). There’s some regression coming, of course, as even with his batted-ball profile he’s probably not going to sustain a .426 BABIP.
  • One more from Morosi, who notes that the Dodgers’ primary focus remains on starting pitching at this time. They’re considering controllable options rather than rental pieces, with Morosi linking Los Angeles to the the Tigers’ Justin Verlander, the Athletics’ Sonny Gray, the White Sox’ Jose Quintana and the Pirates’ Gerrit Cole.
  • For those still looking for more trade-related content to peruse, Heyman penned a column highlighting nearly 100 possible trade candidates, ranging from valuable-but-unlikely-to-move names (e.g. Josh Donaldson, Gerrit Cole) to bad contracts that current teams would like to escape in a potential salary dump (e.g. Junichi Tazawa, Matt Cain). There are some quotes from scouts, general managers and other league execs mixed in throughout.
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  1. MB923

    8 years ago

    A’s got a trio of guys the Yankees could use – Gray, Madson and Alonso. If your Cashman do you make a blockbuster deal. Wonder what the A’s would ask for in return. Frazier, Sheffield, + others?

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    • rycm131

      8 years ago

      Can’t Imagazine anything close
      To that unless you’re an A’s fan

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      • MB923

        8 years ago

        I’m a Yankee fan, but the A’s are going to ask a lot for Gray. Add in Alonso (even though he he’s only for a half year and Ryan Madison controlled for 1.5 years) and it may take something big. What would you suggest the Yankees give up?

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        • rycm131

          8 years ago

          Not sure, but the GM’s aren’t dumb. Alonso has been terrible for his career until this year and can’t be trusted.
          Madison can retire at anytime and no one would be surprised and Gray was a top prospect 2-3 years ago, but is now equivalent to when Jake Peavy was traded from the Padres.

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        • myaccount

          8 years ago

          This whole “Alonso could return to being bad at any moment” narrative is so overblown. Why doesn’t anyone look into *why* he’s having a turnaround? New mechanics and an upward bat plane. Just as his slugging is increasing so are his Ks. It’s a trade off consistent with these improvements and one that he’s probably content with.

          His likelihood of returning to mediocrity is about the same as any other player with a track record of success or one that’s having a career year.

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        • norcalblue

          8 years ago

          So, if Alonzo is going to return to being “terrible”, why would the Yankees want him? If the Yankees decide that they want him they will certainly have to pay for the player that he has become not the one that he was.

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        • rycm131

          8 years ago

          Of a stock has been awful for years, you don’t go all in as soon as it has a huge jump. The odds of it “correcting” itself and coming back down to earth are high

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        • vtadave

          8 years ago

          He’s already seen some regression, but given the change in approach and swing path, a return to being a gap hitter is unlikely. He didn’t just “luck into” 17 HR.

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        • rycm131

          8 years ago

          Terry Steinbach

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      • Breezy

        8 years ago

        No price on a player, prospect wise, is too steep anymore.

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    • JP8

      8 years ago

      I would look at Miami for trades since Loria is too cheap to pay arbitration contracts

      Reply
    • baberuthbomber8

      8 years ago

      Alonso in Yankee Stadium would be interesting.

      Gray could be somewhat costly but not at the level he was 1 or 2 years ago.

      Madison would be an interesting piece…

      Wonder if NY would try and deal Clippard back to Oakland, with some prospects.

      Don’t think they could get Frazier but they would ask.

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      • Strauss

        8 years ago

        Don’t do it Yanks. Gray is a bust.

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    • pplama

      8 years ago

      stop reading bleacher report

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      • MB923

        8 years ago

        I don’t read Bleacher Report.

        Reply
    • rkumar

      8 years ago

      The A’s would at least ask for Frazier+ in a deal for Gray ALONE, so it could take that and more for all 3

      Reply
      • AndyM

        8 years ago

        Well we’re not giving up Frazier

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        • A'sfaninUK

          8 years ago

          Good to know you run the Yankees. Got any other insider info you can pass along so the rest of us can tailor our trade proposals?

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        • hodor 3

          8 years ago

          Cashman raves about Frazier quite often. It’s not a stretch for anyone to realize that Clint is a pet favorite and won’t be part of trades.

          Besides, the Yankees were prepared to be losing this year, so anyone paying attention should understand they will be very reluctant to give up any prized farmhands for a possible fool’s gold season.

          Reply
        • stymeedone

          8 years ago

          Maybe Cashman raves about him solely to increase the trade value.

          Reply
    • AndyM

      8 years ago

      Yankees have no desire to pay that much for an inconsistent player and a rental bullpen piece when their real contention window starts in 2018-19

      Reply
    • A'sfaninUK

      8 years ago

      Torres has to be in that deal if all of those 3 are going to NYY. Those 3 turn the Yankees from pretty good to a juggernaut. Madson is having a lowkey career year and Gray is finally looking back to normal. Alonso is a million times better than any 1B option that NY has too. Torres, Frazier start that deal or there’s no point from Oaklands perspective – and I really wish people would view trades from both sides and know that deadline deals = your best prospects are gone.

      Reply
  2. angelsinthetroutfield

    8 years ago

    Yankees and Halos matchup for a trade? I know they say they aren’t looking for a 1B but Cron and Norris or Hernandez seem like decent value options for the Yanks. Not sure what the Halos could get but I’d expect a couple of 8-15 organizational prospect.

    Reply
    • angelsinthetroutfield

      8 years ago

      Maybe Wade or, more optimistically Adams OR Fowler, and some far off A ball guys

      Reply
      • bencole

        8 years ago

        For what? For one of those guys?

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        • angelsinthetroutfield

          8 years ago

          Both. Before you go crazy consider the deals for Clippard, Abad, and Duke last yr. All were for prospects in that range and none were accompanied by a solid controlled 1B option not were they closer options. Hell, look at that overpay for a Melancon rental. That’s nowhere as bad and you’re getting more for your buck. Another slightly less like comp is Beltran for Tate. Pure rental and he got a 10-15 org guy

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      • pplama

        8 years ago

        Not gonna be fowler. Ouch

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      • vtadave

        8 years ago

        Cron is junk. I think the Yankees are trying to upgrade, not downgrade.

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    • ryanw-2

      8 years ago

      What would the point of that be when the Angels are only 3 1/2 games behind the Yankees for the top WC spot? They’re only a game out of the second spot. If they trade Cron it’s going to have to be to a team out of the race, likely an NL team. And I don’t know what they’d get for Cron. They should’ve dealt him in the offseason for pitching when they had the chance. The Yankees need help as well and are probably better off keeping someone like Adams around to bolster their pitching staff without trading the farm. Trading with the Angels would almost be like trading within their own division.

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      • angelsinthetroutfield

        8 years ago

        I feel like our bullpen depth affords us the ability to get something for pending FA players who have been legitimately great. Always have to look towards the future.

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  3. scromer007

    8 years ago

    I know they usually don’t make trades within the division but I’m pretty sure Brad Brach is gonna get dealt from the Orioles he would fit well in that 7th inning slot for the Yankees. Yes I’m an O’s fan and from what I’ve read they say he will demand a pretty decent prospect because of the amount of team control he has left. Any Yankee fans have any suggestion on what they would give for a guy like brach if it became a reality?

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    • cxcx

      8 years ago

      What “amount of team control?” He has only one more season of arbitration remaining.

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      • scromer007

        8 years ago

        Yes my bad you are correct I looked at it wrong

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  4. cplovespie

    8 years ago

    Justin Verlander, Justin Wilson, J.D Martinez + cash (at least half of remaining contract) for Alex Verdugo, Willie Calhoun, Pedro Baez

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      Oh boy you must be a Dodgers fan. I’m a Dodgers fan and know that has no chance happening on either side. That’s so Dodgers centric and makes little sense.

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    • bencole

      8 years ago

      This is one of the silliest trade proposals I’ve ever seen. Verlander alone would probably cost this (although in fairness he’s not worth it). You want to add in Wilson and Martinez? You’re giving up twice that fircthst package at least.

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      • bencole

        8 years ago

        *for that package

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      • reneaguerra

        8 years ago

        If you think he’s not worth it, do you think Friedman & company are going weaken their team? 2 things that stand out here are they are not trading Baez & his era of close to 1 & Verlander is owed 56 million + 2 months of salary. I can see Verdugo & Calhoun (2 big time bats) for Verlander happening, as the Dodgers are one of the few teams not scared of that contract.

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        • norcalblue

          8 years ago

          I would agree that the contract is not a dealbreaker. What Friedman has shown he is “scared of” are pitchers on the downside of their careers. No question, Friedman is looking for starting pitching; but, I don’t think Verlander is one of his top three targets.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          8 years ago

          The problem with Vernander is not his salary, but that he doesn’t solve a problem the Dodgers actually have.

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    • TheGreatTwigog

      8 years ago

      Not gonna happen, especially if the tigers r paying half the contract

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    • Codybellingersgrandma

      8 years ago

      What about verlander for Cody bellinger?

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        8 years ago

        We’ve gone over this in the winter time Mrs. Bellinger’s grandma lol.

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        • biasisrelitive

          8 years ago

          oh let’s go back to the Bellinger for a 2b debate those comment sections are 500 comments long!!

          Reply
        • Codybellingersgrandma

          8 years ago

          What about Cody for Cabrera and verlander? I’m sure the tigers would eat the salary

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    • Wolf Hoffmann

      8 years ago

      Baez is more valuable to the Dodgers than any of those three Tigers. They don’t need Martinez and his offense. They don’t need Verlander and his declining skills and massive paycheck. And Baez > Wilson. Verdugo will be a cheap starting OF for them next year. So no thanks.

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        8 years ago

        The Dodgers have enough cheap starting OF depth, at the big league and minor league level ,that Verdugo isn’t a significant enough piece to hold up a get over the hump deal. Not at all.

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  5. Peter Banko

    8 years ago

    I wish the Pirates would get rid of Cutch. Nutting is a loser. I laid off 1000 people in the past month.

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  6. Donnie B

    8 years ago

    Phillies can trade Tommy Joseph, Hellickson, Andres Blanco, Benoit and Pat Neshek and Cash to the Yankees for Holder, Torreyes and Fowler.

    or with Trea turner out w/ a broken wrist – They can trade Galvis, Benoit, Blanco and Neshek to the NATS for Taylor, Goodwin and Difo.

    Or to make it really interesting….
    To the White Sox: Joseph / Herrera / Rupp / Neris / Eickhoff / Morgan
    To the Phillies: Quintana / Robertson and Frazier.w/ CWS eating ZERO dollars.

    Angels to go after WC hard… add Rupp, Hendrick, Hellickson and Benoit/Neshek.
    For what return? (One of Tropeano, Heaney or Richards) + Marte

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    • Priggs89

      8 years ago

      That trade makes absolutely 0 sense for the White Sox. Try starting with at least one of Crawford/Moniak/Alfaro and going from there…

      They aren’t looking for salary dumps. They’re willing to eat money to get better prospects back, so needing to eat ZERO dollars isn’t much of a benefit…

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      • Donnie B

        8 years ago

        The White Sox aren’t that far away from contending… they have a great farm system and will be looking to get MLB ready players back… CWS have no need for Crawford, they have Anderson… unless Anderson was included in the deal. Alfaro isn’t going anywhere.. Moniak is too far away for the ChiSox to want him included…

        Quintana is the only real player worth having, as Frazier is a pure 2-3 month rental (and an expensive bad one at that) – and Robertson is way overpaid and will be a FA after the 2018 season. And yeah. Money DOES count for the ChiSox to shed.

        The only reason Philly can even offer such a package is because they are the team that has all the $$ off the books, and will be spenders in the FA market this off-season and next. Adding Quintana and Robertson gives them 2 pieces needed for 2018 – plus they sign either one of Cueto/Arrieta/Cobb and OF JD Martinez and a couple relievers.. Then in 2019 they sign Machado and a big time closer (plus relievers if needed) to finish the rebuild.

        The White Sox can be looking at the same type of progress with less money spent.

        It makes all the sense in the world… No one else is willing to give up 6 starters for Quintana, Robertson and Frazier.. Because no one else can.

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        • Ilikesox

          8 years ago

          I honestly can’t believe you spent the time defending your first comment because now there is two of the dumbest comments I’ve seen in a while. The white sox started an all out rebuild 6 months ago they aren’t close to competing again otherwise they wouldn’t be pushing to trade Quintana as he’s controllable. They are trying to get the best prospects they possibly can from each of those guys listed.

          It’s poor business to deny and top prospect bc you have Someone in that position already things change players move positions. Imagine if the Red Sox didn’t draft Mookie bc he was a 2nd baseman and they already have pedroia that’s just dumb. You take best prospects you can

          Moniak is not the type of prospect that’s too far away and not many prospects are if their rebuild. I don’t think it will be a 6 year rebuild but it certainly won’t be a year or two. CWS is not worried about money Frazier will be a free agent. Quintana has the most team friendly deal in the league and Robertson making probably more than he should but it’s not terrible in terms of closers so that’s not their concern in a trade

          They want PROSPECTS PROSPECTS and more PROSPECTS. Not Rupp and Neris like what kind of drugs are you taking dude

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        • Priggs89

          8 years ago

          Just no. To all of it. You clearly have no idea what the White Sox are doing.

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    • vtadave

      8 years ago

      Why would the White Sox want all that junk? What a weird set of proposals.

      Reply
  7. xabial

    8 years ago

    Clippard has been a dumpster fire lately.

    What happened Clippard? You used to be one of our most consistent relievers

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  8. johnsonjack87

    8 years ago

    I Would Like To See The Steinbrenner Brothers & Brian Cashman Give The New York Yankees A Boost By Making Trades For Johnny Cueto,Nick Hundley,Addison Reed,Miguel Cabrera & Justin Wilson.

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    • capnfatback

      8 years ago

      Capital!

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    • Codybellingersgrandma

      8 years ago

      And Cody bellinger!

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      • Donnie B

        8 years ago

        and never forget Mike Trout too!

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  9. tarheels23

    8 years ago

    Dodgers not giving up cody

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  10. thunder12k

    8 years ago

    Yankees and Mets match up well right now. Reed or Blevins would fit nicely into the back end of the bullpen and Duda could fill the short term hole at 1B. I suppose Bruce could also be used at 1B too.

    If the Yankees make Andujar the centerpiece, I’m sure the Mets would be interested.

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    • hojostache

      8 years ago

      Interesting prospect. I haven’t followed yanke e prospects outside of the top 5-6, but he could work for the Mets in a package. Blevins has an option and Duda would murder in NYS; same with Bruce. They are .877 and .913 OPS (128+ & 138 OPS+) and piles of HRs w above avg and avg defense.

      The Mets would do best to split Reed out and get a bounty. I still have hope they Mets make a run, but cashing in on rentals needs to be a serious consideration.

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  11. GarryHarris

    8 years ago

    If the Yankees acquire a SP and if its a Tiger, I see them going after Ryan Zimmerman vs Justin Verlander. Zimmerman is back to health now. His stats, as are all Tiger SPs, are being adversely effected by the Tigers reprehensible game-time management of the entire pitching staff.

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      Trying Ryan Zimmerman out in the rotation is a ballsy move for a team in a playoff race

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      • aff10

        8 years ago

        To be fair, so is trying Jordan Zimmermann…

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    • El Tigres

      8 years ago

      Regarding Zimmerman, he has looked good his last 3 starts, I think he lost 2 of them but pitched good enough to win given a decent bullpen effort and normal run support. In particular, his slider is back and looking nasty. Zimmerman said he got in some bad habits rehabbing from injury and he finally realized he wasn’t gripping the Ball like he used to on his Slider. They looked at film and retooled his grip. Since then he’s back to business, but it’s a small sample size. I have to think the Tigers would unload his contract if someone was offering a couple of solid prospects. In general, he’s been a disappointment, and our window is almost closed. Keeping him would seem to represent more risk than potential reward. If they can move him, they will.

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      • stymeedone

        8 years ago

        The Tigers got Zimmermann for a reasonable rate at he time because he wanted to be close to home. He took less money to get a no trade clause. He’s not going anywhere.

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        • El Tigres

          8 years ago

          You’re right, Zimmerman has a full no trade through next season, so even in the unlikely event that someone wanted him he’d have to approve it. I forgot about that wrinkle. He’s not going anywhere. In any case, I can’t see anyone deciding that he’s the guy to target for the pennett race.

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  12. wkkortas

    8 years ago

    Being an A’s fan must be like experiencing coitus interruptus every night from April through September.

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  13. rangerfan23

    8 years ago

    I can see the rangers trading for Doolittle

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  14. El Tigres

    8 years ago

    When Mike Illitch was alive signing checks and Dave Dombrowski was regularly flipping prospects for All-Stars we in Detroit loved this time of year. Now that Al Avila (no Dave D) reports to Chris (The Balance Sheet) Illitch we are up here expecting disaster! But even the most cynical Tiger fan knows we won’t unload all of our tradeable guys in one fell swoop for a pile of Dodger dung, no matter how much money it clears from the cap.

    I would expect Alex Avila, JD Martinez, Alex Wilson, and maybe Justin to be sporting new uniforms before the deadline. If the Tigers can find anyone to take Iglesias, Castellanos, or Kinsler, I would be surprised, but I would expect them to be offered to anyone who calls.

    Look for Verlander to go to LA, but they will have to pick up his whole deal. The Tigers will take a bad contract back if he speaks Spanish and plays outfield. And then the Dodgers will have to throw in a couple or 3 prospects (just for appearances, otherwise the city will burn) who have big upside even if it’s highly unlikely they ever make The Show. Hard throwers, Fast runners, Big Swings, and long contracts with lots of options. This trade will please The Balance Sheet, Kate Upton, and no one else.

    Alex Wilson is likely to go to the Yankees for someone who can play now (likely an OF) and a pitching prospect.

    I think JD Martinez goes the highest bidder with the Tigers needing prospects at just about every position. The Tigers have a miserable pipeline to MLB right now and very little chance of getting a huge haul for JD. This one will hurt.

    Avila is the guy who will be a winnable trade piece. No one saw this coming. The Cubs are smart enough to give a couple decent prospects (so Al can feel good about trading his son) and deep enough for it not to matter one bit.

    Al Avila has such a weak hand that no one really expects much from him. He has no choice but to move JD, so that’s a certainty, but anything past that will have to appear good enough to keep the arsonists at bay. The Balance Sheet is terrified of an empty stadium and a ratings disaster right before a new TV deal, so that could prevent a fire sale. It’s going to be very uncomfortable in the Tigers clubhouse until the deadline passes.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      Damn I’m sorry man. You do sound a little cynical.

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  15. hojostache

    8 years ago

    Any idea if Verlander would waive his NTC for LAD? I’d hate it bc w Kershaw that is scary.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      Yeah there’s speculation he probably would.

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  16. El Tigres

    8 years ago

    He and Kate own a house in LA. I think it’s probably a decent possibility that he would waive his no-trade if the Dodgers tell him they are going all in for World Series Titles while the Tigers are planning to rebuild. The only thing he lacks is a World Series Championship.

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  17. spartan-i7

    8 years ago

    If the Dodgers actually offer Verdugo and Calhoun to the Tigers for Verlander and J. Wilson then Avila better accept that deal in a heartbeat.

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