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AL East Notes: Red Sox, Farrell, Orioles, Pitching, Rays

By Mark Polishuk | October 8, 2017 at 11:16am CDT

It was on this day in 1956 that Don Larsen made baseball history by tossing a perfect game in Game Five of the World Series.  The right-hander had posted a 3.19 ERA over 276 2/3 IP for the Yankees in 1955-56, though he hadn’t yet fully established himself in the rotation, starting only 33 of his 57 appearances for the Bronx Bombers.  Larsen also started Game Two of the 1956 Series but lasted only 1 2/3 innings thanks to four unearned runs allowed, making his dominance over the Dodgers just three days later even more unexpected.  Larsen’s masterpiece was the only no-hit game in postseason history until the Phillies’ Roy Halladay tossed a no-no against the Reds in the 2010 NL Division Series.

Here’s the latest from around the AL East…

  • “There is considerable curiosity within the industry about” how the Red Sox will handle another potential early exit in the ALDS, ESPN’s Scott Lauber writes, with John Farrell’s job security being a major topic.  A managerial change might be popular with Boston fans, though Lauber points out that some of the team’s larger issues (such as the lack of power on the roster) aren’t Farrell’s fault.  Farrell has a World Series championship, three AL East titles and a 432-378 record in five years as the Red Sox manager, though his contract only runs through the end of the 2018 season.
  • With the Orioles looking for pitching help this winter, MASNsports.com’s Roch Kubatko lists Jason Vargas, Doug Fister and Andrew Cashner as likely targets given that the team has been interested in all three in the past.  Former Oriole Miguel Gonzalez is also a good bet, since Baltimore tried to re-acquire the right-hander in August before the Rangers outbid the O’s in trade talks with the White Sox.  Since the Orioles have a stated need for left-handed starters, Jorge De La Rosa could be another option since the O’s were also interested in his services a few years ago, though Kubatko notes that de la Rosa worked exclusively out of the bullpen for the Diamondbacks in 2017.
  • “It was just time” for the Rays to shake up their coaching staff, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times writes, though this need manifested itself in a few different ways.  Pitching coach Jim Hickey, for instance, said he had a “difference of opinion” about the team’s plan to go to the bullpen earlier in the games.  Hickey already seemed likely to leave when his contract was up after the 2018 season, with an eye towards joining a more consistent contender.  The Mets and Cardinals have already been rumored to be after Hickey to fill their pitching coach vacancies this winter.  The Rays’ changes have resulted in just one coach (bullpen coach Stan Boroski) remaining from Joe Maddon’s staff, so manager Kevin Cash now has more of his own people in place.
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33 Comments

  1. LA Sam

    8 years ago

    Run-off another WS winning manager a la Francona, can’t blame it on the fried chicken and beer curse this time….

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    • jdgoat

      8 years ago

      Besides a World Series championship, there is nothing similar between Francona and Farrell

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    • gomerhodge71

      8 years ago

      Francona didn’t ruin his 2nd-best starting pitcher by foolishly using him as a pinch-runner , Francona could handle a bullpen and Francona didn’t get caught cheating. And that’s just a sample.

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      • qbass187

        8 years ago

        Yeah he did. Francona did the exact same thing. Using Buchholz as a pinch runner in a game in SF. And Buchholz got injured.
        You’re pretty clueless.

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        • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

          8 years ago

          Thank you. Some commenters type first and think second

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        • Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo

          8 years ago

          Wrong. Both quick to criticize but facts are off. Buchholz injured his knee after singling and trying to stretch it into a double. Not pinch hitting or running, just playing in a NL Park.

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        • jdodge22

          8 years ago

          Bucholz ran because he pitched

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      • jdgoat

        8 years ago

        Since when is Steven Wright Boston’s second best starter?

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        • Ken M.

          8 years ago

          Last year. He made the Allstar game. Was Boston’s second best starter.

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        • whosurpapa

          8 years ago

          Yup, at the time of the injury… Wright was the 2nd best pitcher for Sox and doing well. Since then he as not been the same pitcher. He should have never been a pinch runner.

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      • stewie 2

        8 years ago

        Ugh… this crap again

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  2. fred-3

    8 years ago

    Maybe the Orioles should try to do the opposite of what they’ve done in the past when it comes to acquiring starting pitching?

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    • LA Sam

      8 years ago

      Not sure that George Costanza reverse logic would apply for O’s here….? What’s opposite of grossly overpaying for the results Ubaldo and Miley produced….? Then again….couldn’t hurt…..

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      • User 4245925809

        8 years ago

        It’s just signing out and out scraps and then way over paying that annoys me so much. i can see signing Vargas, he actually has a career history of throwing innings and getting the job done. Cashner and Fister? Forget it. I could care less if both had half fair seasons. remember both had been blow up pitchers just a year ago and then give out contracts from there, lest the o’s take another huge chance.. Might end up with another ricky nolasco and everyone knows how that deal with the twins/angels just ended.

        Vargas at 3-50m or so, others at 1 and 10-12m or forget it if am Duquette.

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        • Jbigz12

          8 years ago

          Completely disagree with this. Vargas is 34 years old. The last thing I want is a 34 year old on a 3 year deal. 3 for 50 for Vargas would be a terrible overpay. I’d rather have fister for 2-22 if that was the case.

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        • soggycereal

          8 years ago

          Fister isn’t worth 2 years, he had a revival this year but before that he had never produced. He needed a change of scenery which came in the form of a waiver claim to Boston, and he turned his season around. I’m willing to bet the same thing will happen in 2018 as did 2017 to Fister.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Hilarious…never saw it coming.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Bubye…

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    • mstrchef13

      8 years ago

      By doing what exactly? Instead of taking a generic potshot at the Orioles, how about you actually stating something worth considering?

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      • fred-3

        8 years ago

        They keep trying for these 30-something reclamation projects that have not worked out. All I suggested was that they should try something else.

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    • gomerhodge71

      8 years ago

      That’s been my point for 3 years. Forget about stacking the team with homer hitters. The experiment failed. Use the money to get a coupld of good-to-very good starting pitchers.

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  3. Draven_X_23

    8 years ago

    For the Orioles… Don’t wait in Free Agency to go after pitching. Bargain hunting starters has yet to work out. Make a good offer to a starter or two with 15-20 QS last season.

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  4. SixGuns

    8 years ago

    Farrell gets canned and ends up as pitching coach for the Tribe. After his health scare I think the guy is going to shut it down. And Tito will lose guys after this postseason, for sure.

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  5. terry g

    8 years ago

    Baseball is moving away from the 7-8 inning starter to 5-6 inning starters and then the bullpen. In order for that to work you have to have bullpen pitchers that can go more than one inning. Some pitching coaches see a danger in that, others don’t. With the current 10 DL rule, teams are using their upper minors as extended bullpens. I expect this will continue until there is a rule change to stop it.
    Baltimore needs pitching what else is new? Maybe, they should look to ground ball pitchers instead of fly ball pitchers with their ball park.

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    • Jbigz12

      8 years ago

      I don’t think the orioles have been specifically targeting fly ball pitchers. Miley is a ground ball pitcher, that didn’t work out so well. Before this year Ubaldo Jimenez had a 49% GB percentage in Baltimore. That’s not bad. Groundball pitcher is great in theory but they have to be strike throwers. Tyler chatwood is a groundball pitcher but he has the same problem, he can’t throw strikes. So first and foremost we need a pitcher who throws strikes. If the pitcher happens to also get a large number of ground balls that’d be great too but strikes come first.

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  6. vinscully16

    8 years ago

    Fire John Farrell. The Sox, from the dugout, lack direction. Farrell is inconsistent with decision making, questionable in regards to leadership, and incapable of establishing accountability. Farrell’s Blue Jays teams suffered similarly. Fire John Farrell – enough.

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  7. mcase7187

    8 years ago

    I hope Fister stays I Boston he did pretty damn well in spot starts sure he wasn’t great but better than porcelblow I would say price but I’ll give him the “injured” excuse this yr

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    • jrwhite21

      8 years ago

      Did you even watch Price shut down the Astros yesterday?

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  8. AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

    8 years ago

    Shoulda traded for Brad Hand 😛

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  9. Solaris601

    8 years ago

    Where do the Red Sox go from here? They’re pretty solid across the board in terms of the lineup, starting pitchers should all be healthy and available for next year. The only thing hanging in the balance is Farrell. Does he stay or go? I don’t know – flip a coin.

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    • InPolesWeTrust

      8 years ago

      Cheaper option is firing Farrell and rolling with basically the same squad for 2018. Minor additions and loses but if they end up with the same result as previous seasons, not advancing to ALCS, its not the skipper, it’s the boys, and that option will get costly…

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  10. madjob33

    8 years ago

    Run BROCK HOLT out of town !!!

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  11. dlevin111

    8 years ago

    Nunez would be likely replacement for Holt if he resigns as free agent

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