The Yankees have utilized some of their newly found international funds (acquired in trades with the Cardinals and with the White Sox) to sign Cuban right-hander Osiel Rodriguez, as Jorge Ebro of El Nuevo Herald tweets. Rodriguez, the No. 5 international prospect on Baseball America’s rankings and No. 9 on MLB.com’s list, received a $600K signing bonus. MLB.com’s Jesse Sanchez first suggested (via Twitter) that the match was likely, adding that the Yankees are also expected to add a young shortstop by the name of Carlos Verdecia for another $325K. New York added $2.5MM (and first baseman Luke Voit) in trades that sent Chasen Shreve and Giovanny Gallegos to the Cardinals and left-handed pitching prospect Caleb Frare to the ChiSox.
Here’s more out of the Bronx…
- The Yankees are on the lookout for an additional outfielder with Aaron Judge, Gary Sanchez and Clint Frazier all sidelined in the short-term, tweets Fancred’s Jon Heyman. While they’d prefer a right-handed bat in order to replace some of the thump lost by that trio of righties, Heyman adds that former Yankee Curtis Granderson could also be in play as a target. The Blue Jays are known to be marketing the Grandy Man (among several others), who is hitting .233/.334/.419 with 10 homers, 15 doubles and a triple through 253 plate appearances in a part-time role with the Jays. Granderson is earning $5MM this season and is still owed $1.67MM of that sum through the end of the year. Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News tweets that the Yankees have also been scouting catchers with Sanchez on the shelf.
- In a full column, Ackert writes that the Yankees are still scouting rotation help even after acquiring J.A. Happ. The Yankees have been scouting Mets righty Zack Wheeler in recent weeks, she notes, and they’ve recently been in touch with the Rays on Chris Archer as well. Luis Severino has struggled over his past four outings, and while the Yankees obviously aren’t planning on replacing him in the rotation, his rough patch could create a desire to further deepen the starting mix. Separately, Heyman lists the Yankees as one of four teams to have “shown the most interest” in Wheeler, though it seems that no one has yet come close to meeting the Mets’ price (Twitter link). The New York Post’s Joel Sherman recently dubbed the Yankees a “long shot” on Archer, whose market is reportedly intensifying.
Would love to see a Granderson reunion
As a 4th outfielder who gets a few starts at YS, I’d be OK with it, but nothing more than that.
I don’t think there’s anyone suggesting he’d be anything more than that anyway
I wonder if the Yankees would be interested in Domingo Santana for something?
We’d happily take sheffield or Frazier off their hands 🙂
And we’ll take Acuna and Abules for them. Hahaha. Get lost.
Domingo Santana is on the Brewers, if you actually… idk.. pay attention to the comment?
And if you paid attention, the person he was responding to has the ‘braves’ in his handle.
I think you’re the one who needs to pay attention.
Thank you Padam!!! Fools on here can’t connect comments very well I guess. I was in fact talking to this Braves fan for suggesting a stupid trade. The Yankees won’t trade their best prospects to a team that plays in the second worst division in all of baseball. I love how Braves fans think they’re back because of two kids and Freddie Freeman. Lol
Why not make a larger trade with the Mets (if they can get past their fear of former mets becoming yankee stars) and swap: Wheeler, Mesoraco and Bautista for Frazier, Wade and Chance Adams?
lol. Yankees want no part in someone like bautista
Why would the Yanks overpay for that? Yankees won’t give up that much for those guys.
I like the idea of the Yankees getting those 3, but that’s a huge overpay. Wheeler, Meso and Bautista all seem like reasonable fits for the Yankees, with Bautista the least likely fit.
But of course your a Reds fan.
great trade if one of Adams or Frazier aren’t included. Otherwise way too much
Maybe a bit too much, not sure if it’s way too much. Wheeler has more upside than Archer, and while he has less control, he does have an additional year, and his contract is dirt-cheap. Mesoraco has been solid at a position of need for the Yankees, and Bautista is a versatile, playoff-tested bat. Meanwhile, Frazier has a lot of potential, but may be injury-prone; Adams’ value has been dropping this year; and Wade seems like a struggling utility guy whose ceiling is as a slightly better utility guy. So, not that crazy of a deal. Sticking point, not surprisingly, might be getting Mets to pay all of Mesoraco’s salary- especially given how close Yanks are to the tax threshold.
Wheeler has more upside than Archer???
Wheeler has been better this year. Wheeler’s numbers are trending up, not down. Wheeler is younger. To me, that is more upside- a stronger likelihood of better performance moving forward. Contract status is a different matter entirely- Wheeler is super cheap, but with less control- though you would likely have him for all of next year at less than $5 million after arbitration.
With Wheeler’s major injury history and only a small window of recent success, I simply and politely disagree that he measures up to a guy like Archer. Archer is the definition of a guy with untapped potential. His results have never matched his rather incredible peripheral stats. Wheeler hasn’t shown anywhere near the MLB success that Archer has. I do think Wheeler is underrated and has strong potential for future success, but there’s simply no evidence to speak of that he’s of a higher ceiling than Archer.
Archer is good, dependable, and on a very affordable longer-term contract. And’s he’s absolutely had better previous success than Wheeler. But, he’s pitched 1000+ innings and will be 30 in September; I respect his body of work, but it’s not often that a guy at that point in his career finds a new gear and gets even better. Wheeler is a guy who got hurt right after his second year, missed two years, and has been trying to find himself again for the past year and a half. He’s two years younger. Given that, and the fact that for two months he’s been pitching better than he ever has, it seems entirely possible that he has some of his best days ahead of him. And, he’s been better this year. So, if he’s better this year and he seems to be improving… I guess that’s my logic on that one. I appreciate that your disagreement was of the polite variety,
Looking ahead – Id take my chances with Wheeler. Archer has peaked IMO. Wheeler has not. Evidence? None. It’s speculation.
I understand and accept those arguments. I just find Wheeler to be a far riskier and more volatile commodity. Even if he has more of the ever-subjective marker of “potential,” which I think is statistically difficult to prove, his hypothetically marginally higher ceiling is trumped by quite a low floor. Part of my surprise at the comparison at all is that I’ve always thought Archer, a guy who pitches worse than his fip year after year, would benefit from a change of scenery and a sense of real competition. Nothing to suggest Archer’s stuff has gone anywhere. Anyways, interesting debate.
Out of curiosity, why do you see Wheeler as having a low floor? Before his injury, he pitched to an ERA in the mid 3s, and he was a top prospect. He’s pitching to a similar ERA lately, and his velocity is back up as high as it was before.
I suppose I’m lumping in injury history/concerns with my notion of his floor. At the very least, Archer has been a model of durability and healthiness. Until Wheeler can prove durability and a full return to form, that is a major red flag in my evaluation of him. While his velocity certainly is promising, it’s not in and of itself indicative of a full return to form. I feel odd railing against Wheeler; I’ve been defending and advocating for him recently. It’s just the comparison to Archer that I’m not so sure about.
But, regardless, I appreciate the respectful and articulate debate. So much more learned this way.
My personal list of guys I’d least want the Yankees to acquire:
Logan Morrison
Chris Davis
Jose Bautista
Joffrey Baratheon
I hope that’s not in order
Baratheon would be a nice pick-up. Bit of a douche but had highest exit velo in the seven realms.
Is joffrey dead?
Yikes on Chris Davis
The Yanks would do Frazier, Wade, and Adams…….. for Degrom. Come on man!
the mets wouldnt. the mets will make the yankees overpay. and is it really overpaying? Wade sucks, Frazier is always punch drunk and Adams hasn’t been called up over the last two years when the Yankees realy could have used a starter and now Sheffield has passed him. Not all prospects work out and we have to be prepared to trade some to get better. Bautista helps them immediately with Judge/Stanton out. Mesoraco is way better than Higashioka and Wheeler probably instantly becomes #3 starter. It’s not overpaying.
You gotta be a Sox or Mets fan…
What. specifically, do you disagree with in BJedi’s comment? The only thing questionable to me is the assertion that Frazier is “always punch drunk.” Not always, just often enough to be a concern.
It’s fascinating watching downvotes accumulate without comment when you say anything that could be construed as anti-Yankee! I would genuinely love some actual debate on the points Brad made above.
1. Wade sucks. (Harsh language, but seems defensible based on performance)
2. Frazier is always hurt- OK, not always, but recurring concussion symptoms are clearly a concern at this point.
3. Adams has been passed over and is underperforming at AAA, suggesting the team does not have a lot of confidence in him moving forward.
4. Prospects don’t work out, and they are a currency that can be exchange for guys who are known quantities at the MLB level.
5. Bautista and Mesoraco could contribute to the current roster, even if they aren’t long-term pieces.
I dont think that Wade sucks. Its an extremely small sample size on a very young player that hasnt had consistent ABs. It didnt help that his MLB stint in the beginning of the season was plagued by flu symptoms. Whether he is good or bad hasnt been found out yet, in my opinion. I see him a potential super utility guy and right now he is a decent utility guy with speed. Watching him live shows some encouraging signs, much more than his small sample size of numbers can show.
He doesn’t, just seems to be an easy target for some a few of these guys who read these posts and don’t watch the games. He is a really good defensive player, has good speed like you said, and seems to be somewhat coming around. Since Boone is the manager and former player who really likes Wade, I’ll take it from him rather than some traderumors posters. Gotta say I like what I’m seeing from Bird and the team stuck with him, so…
Do you think that he has much trade value, though, as a potential utility guy? I mean, most teams have a number of prospects whose ceiling is that of a utility guy. If he were on another team, would you be excited about your team acquiring him? Based on what he’s shown so far?
Applied Yankees fans defend Wade due to his extremely promising 2017 season in triple a. He posted an .842 ops, showing plus discipline, plus speed, and the ability to play all over the diamond. He’s certainly not a god, and, of course, a plethora of reactionary Yankees fans will compare him to Derek Jeter.
He is neither as good as the loud fans say or as bad as the Yankee haters say. But he could be a useful bat with plus tools who can fill in anywhere. I still think there’s value in Tyler Wade.
That’s my whole premise on him being valuable to this team, especially if you watch the games. I would never in my wildest dreams compare him to Derek, but at the same time I’m not gonna write off a guy who’s barely had a cup of coffee. He really just needs more time before anyone can call him anything at all…
I think there is a difference between being a potential utility guy and a potential S U P E R utility guy. I think Wade has high value because hes a player I would want to hold on to. To compare, Drury seemed like a potential utility guy, while Wade looks like he could become an above average starter at 2B that can also play SS, LF, and 3B (actually, has he played 3B much? maybe im mixing him up with the positions Drury could play but i know he at least plays SS, LF and 2B). There was a lot of high praise for the kid by internal sources (i know Brett Gardner was pretty high on him)
But to your final question (would you be exited about your team acquiring him based off what hes shown so far) I would say that yes i would be and just because he hasnt broken into the league like Soto or Gleyber in such a short span doesnt mean that he is worthless. Like i said, its a very small sample size and even though the numbers arent pretty there is a lot to like about this guy. You know, Judge had a very ugly 2016 in his small sample size and then he came back the next year blazing. With the amount of playtime Wade has had, i wouldnt write him off or have his value significantly drop. Its too early.
Haha wishful thinking but the Yankees would need to give up at least 2 of Andujar Sheffield florial for degrom and a lot more. Frazier adams and wade are all massive question marks and it’s actually a solid deal
Let the Muts keep their precious starters. They are in last place WITH them and considering the sorry state of their position players and “prospects,” could well finish last for years to come.
Bottom line: Degrom is 30 years old—32 when a FA in two years—has had TJ surgery and numerous hand, forearm, shoulder problems. Not to mention the hoof and mouth disease he decided to add to the list. Wheeler, too, has a lengthy list of injuries including TJ surgery.
All I can do is shake my head at the sorry desperation of Muts fans as they demand Torres, Andujar, Sheffield and more for their aging and too frequently injured starters. The fanboys seem to feel they are going to get back the kind of haul Cashman got for Miller and Chapman, several years ago. Still, they CAN dream. After all, about all Muts fans HAVE are dreams. That and a pitiful excuse for a team.
Not to nitpick, but, OK, to nitpick- deGrom and Syndergaard are two different pitchers. DeGrom had TJ surgery before his debut, and had ulnar transposition surgery a couple of years ago, but has been mostly healthy regardless. Syndergaard is the one who had a hand problem, and also hand, foot, and mouth disease. Wheeler has only had one major injury. Matz, who you didn’t mention, would have been a good example- you get a nice sampler platter of injuries with him. Elbow, shoulder, muscles, fries, mozzarella sticks….
Just because they’re bad doesn’t mean they have to give him to the Yankees without them giving up at the very least market value. The idea that they should take that proposal just because they’re awful doesn’t make any sense. Another team could easily beat a Yankee offer if some combination of Florial, Andujar, Sheffield aren’t apart of it.
You must be a Mets fan.
The trade he suggested probably helps the Yankees a lot more than the Mets- you know what you’re getting with all three of those guys, but Frazier and Adams are gambles trending towards longshots, and Wade just seems like filler. (No offense if his family is reading).
“”You know what you’re getting with all three of those guys” a catcher and pitcher who can’t stay on the field to save their life and a over-the-hill player who offers more attitude than contributions. So ridiculous it’s funny none the less.
Or, a pitcher who’s been healthy all year (and consistently good for most of it) and two former All-Star (both healthy and contributing, at positions of need for the Yankees) for three guys who have yet to prove themselves at the MLB level and possibly might not. That’s the nature of deals like this, proven contributors traded for lottery tickets with various odds.
Yankees would be insane to bring two of those three in and Judge isn’t out all year. If I was a Mets fan yea sure make that deal.
Wheeler unlike Frazier isn’t injury prone he only had one tj surgery and it just took him a while to get back. Obviously mesaraco and Bautista are essentially worthless but wheelers value by himself is worth Frazier (has a new injury every other week and a reoccurring concussion problem) who hasn’t reached his potential when he is healthy tho you could say he never really got a real opportunity and adams who is definitely not a top 100 prospect anymore and is the Yankees #13 prospect right now. His ceiling is a very good setup man. Wade is worthless regardless. The deal is essentially a 1yr and a half of wheeler (who would be the Yankees #2 starter right now) for 2 former top prospects who have big question marks. That’s pretty fair to me.
OH BOY!! Wheeler has been healthy ALL YEAR! Not exactly a strong rationale for why the Muts want multiple quality prospects in return. Ever hear: we finished last WITH you, we can finish last without you? Live it, Muts fans.
How on earth does Bautista bring “more attitude than contributions”? Has there ever been a bad thing said about him by a teammate?
The argument isn’t that he’s been healthy all year, it’s that he’s been healthy and also pitching as well as or better than most of the other pitchers available, and he has an additional cheap year of control, which gives him as much value as multiple quality prospects if the quality of those prospects isn’t as high as it used to be.
Also, I think that Keith could recommend something for that beard of yours.
Because Wheeler is the only one in that group worth acquiring.
I’m a Yanks fan and I actually think that’s not a bad trade. Wheeler has another year of control (2019), Mesoraco gives us more depth at the C position. Sanchez might be better served THIS SEASON ONLY splitting his time in between C and DH. Mesoraco can be the back up to Romine and send Higgy back to AAA. With Judge and Frazier out, Bautista can be a solid-ish DH. He still hits with some power and draws walks at a high rate (17%).
I don’t see Wade ever being a star caliber player and Cashman seems to have something against calling Adams up to fill a rotation spot and has instead used German, Loisaiga, Cessa, Happ, etc. Maybe the Yanks get a lower level guy back but I don’t see it as a a major overpay.
This is entirely reasonable and open-minded. Are you sure you’ve come to the right place?
They’ve been called up because they are on the 40-man. Sheffield and Adams are not.
Way more to do with protecting assets from the Rupe 5 and using what’s smartest long-term than bringing the best guy up
Mets don’t need Frazier – too many in the OF already. Sheffield would be the target if I’m the Mets, and moving Wheeler, Mesoraco and perhaps Bruce would be more in line. Couple of controllable players for the Yanks, Mets get the prospect they’ve been looking to acquire.
Mets DO NOT need a another left-hand hitting outfielder. Adams has a 4+ era. SO NO. This offer stinks. COL.ROCKIES r the only team that has a 3B & WE the METS can use.No team has a CF who hits right-hand that the METS can use.
Osiel will be the #1 prospect by the time he is 19. Book it.
Or sign with the Yankees which always raises a prospects value immensely.
Lol. Like Curtis is going to help this team. They need pitching, not a .220 hitter with 200 strikeouts a season to add to the outfield
Completely agree. He’s not gonna help. K machine with bad situational hitting and declined to almost non existent base running skills. Why bother.
The starting pitching market is terrible. You only really need 3 SPs in the postseason with the rest and travel days.
Under normal circumstances sure, but if the Yankees end up having to play a WC game, and assuming they win it– would you pick the Yankees in a 5-game series against the Red Sox with Tanaka/Happ/CC as your top 3?
Why not? After Sale the Sox pitching isn’t that great
Sure. The Sox OPS against lefties is awful
I doubt if the Yankees want to part with guys it would take to get Archer or Wheeler. I still believe Jose Martinez would be a great fit, especially with his power to right field. Cards have expendable arms but it would take a lot to get one of them. Want Wacha?
they wont part with the type of prospects for a trade for archer, but wheeler is a completely different story.
Jose Martinez would fit well….not sure about Wacha, and of course it depends what STL wants back in return….certainly worth a serious conversation though at least for Martinez.
Agree with no Grandy reunion…..the Yankees have Austin that can give that kind of production and it won’t cost anything.
Why is everybody acting like Judge won’t be back until next season, or Sanchez for that matter. Martinez is completely horrendous in the field.
Very true, but Martinez would give some veteran insurance in case Bird goes down at first.
Judge will be back before the end of the season!
Most of these people evidently don’t know the meaning of short term.
Syndergaard,mesoraco for gary sanchez,sheffield,frazier
Future hall of famers Sheffield and Frazier?
Lololololololololol
That enuff lols?
Too many for even a pre-teen.
WOW….LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Way overpay for Syndergaard…What do you Mets fans think your pitching is worth anyway!
Love these Mets trade proposals. Guess they have plenty of time on their hands since they can’t watch that train wreck of a team.
Wouldn’t surprise me to see the Empire make a serious run at Carlos Rodon. He’s young, very good, and undet team control for a few years. Chisox appear to be going nowhere for the forseeable future. They may want to cash in their most marketable chip.
Now that’s actually a great idea. Young controllable starter who won’t cost you a ton and isn’t overrated like archer.
Why would the White Sox trade Rodon? They have Kopech and Jimenez coming up within a year. They also have more solid players after that as well. White Sox will be contenders come 2020
Because he is under contract for 3 more years and Jimenez and kopech didn’t debut yet. Unless they plan on resigning him now his time with the team doesn’t align with the white Sox other young players
Well Juda you are wrong if you think you can trade for Rodon without it costing a ton. Why would the White Sox trade Rodon for anything less then a major haul.
The Chisox would demand and get a bounty of prospects for Rodon. In that sense, he wouldn’t be cheap. In terms of immediate payroll, however, the cost would not be significant. Carlos would answer a lot of questions for the Empire, while the young talent acquired by the Chisox could envigorate its shaky rebuild, with Giolito and Lopez looking lost, Hansen, Dunning, Burdi and Burger either down or struggling with injuries, and Moncada being graded so far as an ‘E-4’.
I still think ellsbury will be traded
How on earth is that even a possibility? The guy hasn’t set foot on the field this year. The only way that happens is in a massively horrible contract swap in which the ellsbury-receiving team has no interest in playing him. Just don’t see any way he can be moved.
Tulo and Morales For Ellsbury.
Add in Cespedes and you’ve got the ultimate millionaire foursome for the links.
Who???
Sorry I don’t want Granderson. Saw him with the Mets, and he is at the tail end of his career.
Agree, Grandy Man is been there, done that. Better internal options!
Who? Who are the better internal options considering we don’t know what’s up with Frazier returning.
Don’t forget the Yankees also asked about joey gallo and Adrian beltre so there could be something there wouldn’t mind picking up gallo
Gallo= a strikeout machine, that is a rally killer unto himself.
Giants are listening to offers for Andrew McCutchen.
If they really are, that’s not a bad idea at all.
Trade For Wilson Ramos and Carlos Gomez from the Rays. Gets them through the next month with two RH’ed bats, Ramos is having a great offensive year and could rotate between catcher and DH when Sanchez returns. Excellent insurance should Sanchez not heal fully. Gomez can play a solid RF and while his bat has dried up, he is a good clubhouse guy and can still get hit by a pitch with the best of them. Dump him when not needed.
I suspect it wouldn’t cost the Yanks much more than a mid prospect or two, perhaps a Chance Adams and/or Ryder Green.
Yanks aren’t getting Ramos for a bum like Chance Adams.
You do realize Ramos is a 2 month rental and owed 3 million dollars. Adams , at age 24, may be able to continue to recover from his bone spur operation and return to his form as their #2 ranking from a year ago. Maybe you see Garrett Whitlock as more reasonable along with another lower level guy?
Why would the Yankees ever want a stiff like Gomez? Thanks but no thanks.
He’s a throw in of an RH’ed hitting OF’er fill in until Judge gets back…nothing more.
The only way the Yankees should trade Sheffield is if Bumgartner or Degrom is the pitcher. That’s it. I would trade Frazier, Adams, Acevedo, Austin, or some one from the lower levels not named Florial. Archer, Fuller, etc. is not worth Andujar or Sheffield.
Just read an interesting article on CBS.com about what it would take to acquire Andrew McCutchen, it wouldn’t take a lot or they can wait till the waiver wire. Give me McCutchen any day over these Mets fans suggestions of Bautista, talk about bad chemistry. On the catching front how about checking in with the Reds on what it would take to get Tucker Barnhart.
If they acquire Mccutchen, that’d be the third fan favorite of another team in the past week. What are the Yanks trying to do, become likeable?
On a more serious note Cereal, how would Bautista lead to bad chemistry in the Yankees locker room. I’ll agree that he’s not a great fit due to the construction of their team, but to say he’d lead to bad chemistry is ridiculous. When has that ever happened before?
They’ve seen the way he acts on the field being in the same division, he comes across as selfish. This is a team mostly young that somewhat came up together, and his me mentality would disrupt the continuity. If it weren’t for the horrible organization that the Mets are giving this guy a shot he’d be sitting at home. Boone is a first year manager and doesn’t need the distraction cause lord knows he gets enough scrutiny from that media market on his own. By the way who are the other two fan favorites?
I disagree big time about Bautista. What’s his me mentality? When he argues with umps? I get why people might not like it, but he’s never really wrong when he argues.
And Happ and Britton were both fan favs in their respective cities
Oh I don’t know, maybe the needless bat flips, run-ins with other players, arrogant postgame interviews, for some.
I really don’t think McCutchen is that big a fan favorite in San Francisco, but I think the guy needs legit chance at a ring…seems to be a class act.
Cmon, batflips? There must be a lot of players you don’t like man. And the one he’s known for was literally a series winning homer after coming back 0-2.
It’s also not his fault Darren Oday couldn’t locate a pitch and Jose became the one player he couldn’t get out.
And finally, I don’t know which postgame interviews you’re talking about so I can’t debate that but I highly doubt they were very bad.
And even if any of this were true, how does it impact the Yankees chemistry? I’m sure they’ve bat flipped this year and O’day or Odor don’t play for them. I say this as respectful as possible cereal, but I think you’re getting your personal feelings mixed up with how a major league team would view a potential player
Mccutchens a fan favorite in Pittsburgh