The Orioles are expected to move on from longtime manager Buck Showalter following the 2018 season, tweets Bob Nightengale of USA Today. That meshes with yesterday’s report from Fancred’s Jon Heyman, which called Showalter “likely” to be replaced.
Nightengale adds that general manager Dan Duquette is expected to receive an extension. It seems ownership was impressed by his handling of the team’s trade-deadline sell-off, which launched a full-blown rebuilding effort that had been contemplated — but not ultimately pursued — over the winter.
If the reports prove accurate, Showalter would be at least the second manager not asked back for the coming season; the Rangers announced earlier this afternoon that they’ve fired Jeff Banister and will be searching for a replacement following the season. Showalter has been the Orioles’ skipper since taking over partway through the 2010 season, helping the team to three postseason berths — including an AL East division title in 2014. Baltimore steamrolled the Tigers in a clean sweep of the ALDS that season before being knocked out of the ALCS by the Royals.
As for Duquette, he’s been with the O’s since the 2011 season and helped to orchestrate those postseason appearances, though his fingerprints are also on this season’s all-time franchise-worst record. To be fair to Duquette, he has seemingly been hamstrung by ownership at times, as Peter Angelos reportedly had little interest in investing on the international amateur free agent market and was also said to be instrumental in bringing back Chris Davis on what could now be considered the worst contract in the sport.
Duquette, if extended, will be tasked with helping to oversee a rebuild not only of the club’s roster but also the team’s entire baseball operations department. Baltimore has lagged behind other teams in terms of international scouting, the implementation of analytics, the use of technology in player evaluation and more. Following this summer’s trade of franchise icon Manny Machado, Duquette vowed that the organization would invest in those areas as it embarked on its rebuilding process.
It’s worth emphasizing, of course, that nothing is yet set in stone. As Dan Connolly wrote yesterday at The Athletic (subscription link), “decisiveness has never been the strong suit at the top of the Orioles’ food chain.” The only aspect of the future that’s all but certain at this point, he wrote, is that Orioles VP Brady Anderson will continue to “remain in a position of influence.” Connolly ran through the possible permutations of outcomes involving Showalter and Duquette, guessing that both of those long-time leaders would end up on the move but noting the ongoing uncertainty.
Beyond that, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweets that the O’s have made a pair of additions to the pro scouting department, hiring veteran evaluators Doug Witt and Rich Amaral. Witt, the brother of former big league pitcher Bobby Witt, is also the uncle of Bobby Witt Jr. — a potential top selection in the 2019 draft. Amaral, a former teammate of Anderson’s, will be a special assignment scout on both the pro and amateur side as well as a baserunning instructor, tweets Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com. If those hires offer any clues as to the broader organizational direction, it’s not strictly clear just what they suggest.
No mention of Peter Angelos selling the team means no improvement for the O’s.
I would trade Buck for Goone, no typo, in a heart beat
lol. I meant I would swap Buck for Boone
Eileen…this was first game I went to. Look how it ended and who did it!
Boone sucks I would love buck. Wish we still had joe but cash needed a puppet
1000000000% Boone is awful. Baltimore can have him for free
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You sound like you know what you’re talking about.
Not happening. If they sell the Orioles, MASN money becomes less to the Orioles ownership. As long as an Angelos owns the team, they get the lions share of the money.
I’m not saying it’s right but that’s the agreement MLB did to put a team in the Orioles territory.
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!
Phillies plus Showalter. Make it happen!
I doubt whether they are interested in parting with Kapler considering the year they’ve had. Manager of the Year will go to Snitker or Shildt but Kapler will be a runner-up.
redrooster: The fans in Philly don’t quite share your enthusiasm about Gabe Kapler.. I’d be euphoric if the O’s ended up with Kapler and we signed Buck. Out of the box thinking is sometimes good, but Kapler took it to extremes. Sorry, I’m not a Kapler fan.
Phillies fans in ’76 we’re nuts!
Had full beers, sodas and garbage thrown at me during a visit from the Cardinals.
Guess I’m lucky it wasn’t batteries.
That’s because, in 1976, we still had never won a WS. One hundred years with no WS flags will do that. Come on back. We’re much more mellow now..
Regardless of what you think, that 3rd spot in the MOY race will probably go to Kapler.
I would like that.
Want the opposite honestly
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Sad day. I want Buck back.
Bet you also wish he brought in Britton
Why would you want buck back so he can captain another 45 win team? Duquette made some pretty decent deals at the deadline. If the younger angelos’ are going to let him sign IFA’s and run the team how he really wants to we’ll be alright. Any other manager would’ve motivated this team and squeezed out a few more wins. This is a terrible roster but we don’t play with any energy for buck. It happens. After years and years the managers point gets old and the team stops responding. Buck had his time here but we need a new voice in the clubhouse.
Dan has to go too. We should have let him go when he tried to rat out and leave for the Blue Jays. He lost a lot of support with that move. He handcuffed the team with Rule 5 players. And let’s wait on the evaluation of the trades. Remember, you thought the Orioles would contend this year with the additions of Cobb, Valencia and Cashner. Full sweep- Dan, Buck, Brady- need to start fresh.
Buck as Mets bench coach. Keep Mick the Thick out of trouble!
Please take him, it would shorten the goodbyes in Baltimore
Showalter back to Texas?
Rich Amaral is back in the game ya’ll! This is a great day!
Buck to the Angels….take it to the bank……(I want a cookie in October when it happens)…..
Shame. I liked Buck
Did anybody else just get an ESPN alert that the Orioles have fired showalter
Well he is at Yankees stadium
Dan is an idiot. Whatever else he did, he never makes any free agent moves until January, when everyone worth having is gone, and then overpays what remains.
He is a lousy evaluator of talent, his drafts have-so far-been mediocre at best, almost all of his trades, including all the sell-off trades this season, brought dreadful returns( waiting so long before admitting the need for the trades isn’t necessarily his fault, but a good GM should be able to influence ownership to do what’s best. Either Dan didn’t try,or he failed, and either way that’s bad.) he makes no plan, long or short-term, he isn’t proactive( he couldn’t even sign a worthwhile utility infielder, for pete’s sake) and he’s arrogant, condescending, and disingenuous.
Even if you subtract the ownership demands, what he did remains a terrible endorsement.
He needs to go too.
And take Brady with him.
It’s not Dan, it’s the Angeloses. Dan set the table for the Red Sox to win their first WS in over 90 years, yet Epstein got all the credit. Lately he’s had to endure the worst owner in sports and almost got the Os to the WS. Dan deserves the opportunity to lead the rebuild which is at least a year overdue
Duquette was also a major factor in the early-mid 90’s Montreal Expos teams.
People also forget how horribly run the O’s were prior to his arrival.
If the O’s get rid of Duquette there should be many teams lining up for his services. Buck too.
When dealing with relatives, the one named Jim seems like the one with least success. Example: John & Jim Belushi.
Dan Duquette has been successful while his cousin Jim Duquette has not.
You think ANY GM could influence Peter Angelos? He is the one responsible for all Mesothelioma settlements from Asbestos exposure.
You think anyone could pull a power card on him.
I don’t think we got a “dreadful return” in his deadline sell offs. The Gausman deal was the only one I was pissed about. The Braves had so many good pitching prospects I’m very disappointed we didn’t get any of them. The Schoop deal was a good one. We got a potential mid rotation arm and an 18 year old SS for a guy who’s OBP is nowhere near .300. In all honesty Villar has been the superior player this year. I’m not going to analyze every deal but we really won’t know what we have until 3-4 years from now.
You are exactly right, fomeols.
And I don’t know how…but for some reason everybody seems to really like Brady Anderson and his place in the decision-making process. I do not. Brady is part of the problem.
DD Brady and Buck gotta go.
Orioles left with nightmare Dan D.!
Did the best you could Buck with what you had.
No he didn’t. He had Britton.
Was Angelos also impressed with the way the Dexter Fowler non-signing in 2016 worked out?
I was thinking.. “longtime” manager, really? For some reason it felt to me like it was only a couple years ago they hired him.
Seems they forgot about Alex Cobb and Chris Davis pretty quickly…
Cobb was signed late, and had a terrible April as a result. Other than that, I don’t know what possible complaint you could have about his play.
Since May, he’s earned his salary, no reason to think he won’t keep doing that for the rest of the contract.
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At tines Cobb has looked terrific. I look forward to seeing what he can do next year.
I agree Cobb looked good later in the season. Signing late hurt him because he didn’t get much of a chance in Spring Training. I think next year will be a much better season for him. Bundy on the other hand needs serious work
I agree. I think due to the late signing, he was behind in training. If he does good early in the season, look to him as a trade candidate next year. No use in keeping him around for trash time on a rebuilding team.
Some UCL will tear on a contender and someone will get desperate.
The Davis contract is terrible and I’m no fan of Duquette’s, but wasn’t it reported at the time that it was ownership that insisted on increasing the offer (and overpaying) in order to keep Davis?
It was. Angelos is a cancer to the team.
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Angelos pushes for the deal. A mistake, but I think it was also his way of showing he’s willing to spend on the right kk d of player. Too bad the guy he chose has t worked out.
To me, one of the worst decisions in baseball history was the Orioles allowing Machado to move to short this year. Took two good defenders out of position, both played bad defense as a result.
And that’s a managerial decision…especially when you’re Buck Showalter, not some rookie manager who’s main responsibility is calling the occasional hit and run.
Still, not very classy, leaking the news before the end of the season.
Front office had to sign off on that. With Angelos being a factor in decisions as well, plenty of blame to go around.
Dan Connolly with The Athletic, not Don.
That was just a straight typo on my part. My bad, Dan!
How are they choosing Duquette over Showalter?
Unreal. Until you realize what else would Angelos do other than make the wrong decision
Sad day in B’more if Duquette stays and Showalter is shown the door.
So fire the manager that oversaw all the recent winning? Duquette didn’t make those teams. Andy McPhail did. Fire Dan’s a** before he gets us caught up in some type of bs. However, Ivan “Pudge” Rodriguez name has been brought up as a possible replacement. #KeepBuck
Spot on. Cruz was about the only good signing, and he didn’t resign him beyond that year as it turns out we should have. If Buck has to go, I want girardi. I don’t think he’d want baltimore unless he wants to face the Yankees
Andy MacPhail did not find Wei Yin Chen, Miguel Gonzalez, Darren O’Day or take a chance on Nelson Cruz. MacPhail was very good at trades, but made terrible free agent signings and did little to improve the minors. Duquette set the table for the Red Sox to be a WS winning team even though Theo gets all the credit. Makes sense for Showalter to leave in a certain sense. He did a great job until the playoff bullpen debacle against the Blue Jays. It just feels like Showalter’s time is up. Duquette on the other hand trading Machado and Schoop even though it should have happened in the off-season
Buck had to go. Dan D. should go also. Angelos can not be fired. Scapegoat or deserved? Even good coaches can loose their ability. Bobby V. was a decent Met manager, but 10 years later with the Red Sox he became the village idiot. The Os did well at the trade deadline. At least a two to three years rebuild is necessary. I think they have ignored their pitching issues for too long. Even when they had some decent positional players, their pitching staff was below average. Do not give up on Chris Archer. He has some talent. Chris Davis may have DFAed for nothing. He is an anchor.
Buck hasn’t had much to work with the past couple of years and you can’t really say the O’s are in a rebuild. I think that’s on ownership and the GM. That’s where the changes need to be made, not the manager.
No, you definitely can say they’re in a rebuild
Now, yes. Signing Cobb this offseason and not dealing Machado sooner said rebuild wasn’t in the cards.
The Orioles are and seem likely to continue to be an absolute dumpster fire. Just look at what they did to yusniel diaz. Easily the least competent franchise in the league.
Yusniel Diaz that’s been here for four months? Why don’t we wait a year or two before coming to any conclusions.
Exactly. I guess we have to wait a year or two to determine if they were good deals also, rather than promoting them as good deals already.
I smell a John Farrell future in Baltimore, although why teams like these don’t consider guys like Bo Porter is beyond me.
This team will never go anywhere with Duquette and Angelos still around. Get someone in there that wants to win
There’s lots of work to do in Baltimore at every level, from drafting to the MLB level club. It is going to take 5 years at least.
Tough times for Baltimore Oriloes fans.
They have a good broadcast crew though.
I hope that you are not talking about Joe “he’s no” Angel.
is it racism that makes angelos not like the international market? xenophobia? impatience (as many Latin American signings are very young? I’m not accusing I just honestly can’t think of a logical reason for it
Buck is going to the Marlins
Showwalter should have been gone three years ago. I would pick Rick Dempsey or Cal Jr. For the new coach.
Exaxctly, why is everyone so high on Brady? Big deal, he works guys out during the off season. How are those workouts working out? I know he likes taking batting practice and shagging flies before games. Does he have any interest in data and analytics? I guess the Angelos bros love hanging out with him.