The Padres, Cubs, Red Sox and Astros are reportedly among teams with interest in breakout Tigers left-hander Matthew Boyd as the July 31 trade deadline creeps closer. Add the Dodgers, Braves and Rays to the clubs involved in the derby, according to Chris McCosky of the Detroit News.
The 28-year-old Boyd has evolved from average starter to potential front-end arm since the season began, and with the Tigers in a rebuild, they may decide to cash him in this month. Boyd’s 3.87 ERA over 107 innings isn’t befitting of an ace, but he has managed a more impressive 3.56 FIP/3.34 xFIP while emerging as one of the majors’ preeminent strikeout artists. With a sky-high 11.94 K/9 against a measly 1.68 BB/9, Boyd ranks top 10 among starters in those categories and top five in K/BB ratio (1.68).
Home runs have recently haunted Boyd, who has allowed at least two in three straight outings and a total of 10 in six starts since the beginning of June. But Boyd’s sudden gopher balls issues don’t look as if they’ll be enough to dampen teams’ enthusiasm in the affordable, controllable hurler. His $2.6MM salary this season and three remaining years of arbitration eligibility would make him a long-term piece for an acquiring team, though they’ll also help drive up Detroit’s asking price. The Tigers are holding out for a lofty return for Boyd, as you’d expect, with McCosky reporting they initially sought a major league-ready hitter and one or more “top” prospects at or above the Double-A level.
For the Dodgers, Boyd would add to a team that already seems to have everything. The back-to-back National League pennant winners own the majors’ best record (60-32) thanks in part to their starting staff. Potential Cy Young candidate Hyun-Jin Ryu, Clayton Kershaw and Walker Buehler have all been good to brilliant, while Kenta Maeda and Ross Stripling have performed well in complementary roles. The same applies to Rich Hill, though he has been on the injured list since June 20 with a left flexor tendon strain and, having gone on the 60-day IL, won’t return until at least late August. It’s also worth noting this could be the last season in Los Angeles for Hill, a soon-to-be free agent who’s pushing 40, so Boyd would fit nicely in his spot in the team’s rotation in 2020.
The Braves are the NL’s second-ranked team at 54-37, and there’s an obvious connection between their front office and Boyd. General manager Alex Anthopoulos held the same position in Toronto when the Blue Jays spent a sixth-round pick on Boyd in 2013. Boyd debuted up north in 2015, Anthopoulos’ last year as Toronto’s GM, but the championship-contending club traded him that July to the Tigers to acquire ace David Price.
Anthopoulos fell short of his World Series goal four years ago, but his current employer has a realistic chance to vie for a title this season. The Braves, though, do have needs in their rotation even after signing Dallas Keuchel to a one-year, $13MM contract in June. Keuchel and rookie sensation Mike Soroka are locked into spots. After that, while Julio Teheran has logged a 3.75 ERA in 100 2/3 innings, it’s much harder to trust his shaky peripherals. Max Fried’s secondary numbers are better than Teheran’s, but he has been inconsistent of late. Meanwhile, 2018 No. 1 starter Mike Foltynewicz got off to a miserable start before the team demoted him to the minors June 23, and hasn’t come back since. Kevin Gausman, likewise, hasn’t taken the mound for the Braves in weeks – he went to the IL on June 11 with a plantar fasciitis in his right foot – and has joined Foltynewicz in struggling mightily when he has started this year.
Tampa Bay isn’t the mortal playoff lock LA and Atlanta appear to be in the NL, but the Rays are very much in the AL hunt. The club’s 52-39, a half-game up on its league’s No. 1 wild-card spot and 6 1/2 behind the AL East-leading Yankees. Boyd, who’s easily affordable for the low-budget Rays, would join Cy Young possibility Charlie Morton, reigning Cy Young winner Blake Snell and Yonny Chirinos to give the opener-using team four traditional starters. The team’s also continuing to await the return of Tyler Glasnow, who was enjoying what looked like a breakthrough campaign before forearm troubles forced him to the shelf May 10. Glasnow still believes he’ll factor in again this season even after having suffered setbacks, but the Rays may not be able to bank on that occurring.
Pache & Allard for Boyd & Greene
come again for big fudge?
Pache and Waters are nearly untouchable.
Since we drafted Langliers it has made Contreras expendable maybe put another 2 pitching prospects like Wilson and Wright and a couple of throw in players that should get it done.
steelerbravenation has spoken, if you dont like it – then too bad!
Contreras, Wilson, and Wright would be a nice haul for Detroit. They don’t really need multiple SP prospects though. They have nothing but pitching prospects in the minors. But that’s a problem I’d deal w later.
Those 3 for Boyd? Are you out of your mind! Lol 2 top 30 prospects at best. If one is a top 100 then we have a different conversation lol. Boyd isn’t elite by any nature, he’s not a farm system depletion type guy at all.
If you swapped Mueller for Wright, I think that would be a more accurate value for Boyd
I wasn’t suggesting they give that package up. I was just responding to the guy who said that. He suggested that plus some lotto tickets. I was just responding that those 3 alone would be a massive haul for Detroit. Boyd will be an interesting case to see. I just really hope he gets dealt so we don’t hear about the trade package speculation for another year.
No players are untouchable…
I’m so terrified of what may happen in this trade season….I think AA may go for it and I just hope he trades the right guys…
Boyd, and Greene from DET for Gausman, Ender, Camargo, Folty, and Wright
Not enough…
Gausman is 28 so Tigers would not have interest in him since when their rebuild bears fruit, he will be in his 30’s.
Any Braves deal would have to begin with Pache, Wright and Waters
Add in Camargo and you got a deal
Riley, Camargo and Pache are the kind of players they are looking for..
NO
Pache makes some sense here… Allard’s nearly worthless though, or at least nothing close to a top prospect.
Not enough for 2 All Star level pitchers: one of mlb’s top young starters and one of mlb’s top young closers coming off a scoreless inning in the all star game..
Greene is team controlled through 2020.
Boyd has 3 1/2 years team control left..
Bidding war will break out for their services..
Im sure teams value all star game ERA in trade talks.
All factors are taken into consideration by the smart GM’s and teams, ..
Allard and pache for Boyd and greene? Lol it hurts to think you are that dumb! It really hurts
Why do you say things like this. it doesnt help anyone and just make you seem pretty. Disagree all you want but dont be a pecker about it.
@Steelerbravenation
That is a horrible trade! The Braves need to stay completely away from Boyd! He is already regressing and not worth half of what Detroit will want for him.
Regressing at age 28? And in a month? Wow I didn’t realize someone who has had a very good season and a half can so quickly regress after one bad month. Boyd has definitely taken multiple steps forward and a small step back in June, however if he keeps getting better at the rate he is I don’t understand how he’s gonna regress like you say he is
@tigersfan1320
He hasn’t had a good season and a half…he was decent in 2018…4th starter decent..for 2 mo ths he pitched well…now he is showing signs of being the back of the rotation starter he has in the past. Hince regressing to his norm…April and May of this year were the outliers…not his June numbers.
He is a productive left handed with 3 years of team control. Those guys aren’t growing in trees.
I really expect the Braves to make a huge deadline splash.
Don’t. We expected them to improve the bullpen this offseason and they did nothing
thats funny because after starting out horrible they shuffled some folks around, brought in a few new faces and then went on to have the leagues best bullpen era
Not worth it
Really hope it’s not Boyd
I wouldn’t mind Greene but not Boyd
Gotta be Greinke or MadBum but either way hope AA makes his move soon
Boyd has more upside and a lot more team control than Grienke and MadBum.
And Boyd is better than MadBum now. AND Grienke is a better pitcher but he’s 35 and has that huge contract of 33 mil a season.
Lol he’s not better than bumgarner. Any GM in the game would take bumgarner over Boyd, especially in a playoff game.
No. They wouldn’t. Maybe the ones who are stuck in 90s thinking. Nostalgia doesn’t win games, and neither does a broken fastball.
Boyd’s 91 suddenly tops of the league? What’s this broken fastball you’re referencing?
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That is the point he is throwing up to 95mph now.
His average FB velo is 91.7. If he’s hitting 95 he’s doing it once every 3 starts.
last outting BOYD was throwing 94, there is a difference between a 2 seem fastball and 4 seem fastball. 91 would be the 2 seemer with cut action
His avg fb was 92 at the beginning of season it’s 91.7 now there fella.
Well luckily we have statcast that tells you the exact velocity all his pitches averages. His four seamer averages 91.8 and his cutter/sinker averages a couple ticks over 90. He must’ve really ticked his velocity up in his last outing if that’s true because statcast tells a completely different story.
link to baseballsavant.mlb.com
Apparently you dont know the difference between a 2 seem fastball and a 4 seem fastball.. The 4 seemer is faster. Depending on a line-up he could go with either.or based on control he has that night. Why ave fastball velocity is not accurate if you throw both FELLA!!
Like he said 91.8 statcast check it out fella. Get your facts straight before posting ya nerd
Some you crack me up. Kershaw FB avg velo is 90.5 this year. It’s about location. Not to mention Boyd’s slider is one of the best in the league.
lol u sure Kershaw isnt throwing 100???
And Kershaw also generates a ton of groundballs and infield flies. I’m not stating that you need Velocity to be a good pitcher by any means. I’m just using accurate numbers. We have the data at our fingertips there’s absolutely no reason to claim he’s consistently throwing 94-95 when you can look it up and see that is not true.
Bumgardner was good years ago and went on an incredible run. He is a shell of his former self now..
Boyd’s FBv is 92.3 this year. He can touch 95. I hope this clears it up and everyone can go to bed now.
How fast did Greg Maddux throw?!
93 in his very young years.
Barely 90 most of his career
Greinke
Boyd
Bumgarner
Umpires used to stretch the zone back then. They don’t anymore. Fans have a heart attack on this site when a pitch is two inches off the plate and called a strike. Maddux got a lot of calls. Quite frankly I’m ok with that. Walks are boring.
My initial point was the fact Boyd’s average fastball wasn’t as blazing as people thought. Now some are bringing fake facts about his heater. In Toronto he barely broke 90. I saw 91 point something yesterday. That ain’t early 90’s Randy Johnson.
@RMenzel
Boyd has started to show signs of regressing back to what he has been in the past. He has 1 quality start in his last 6 outings. That means his era is over 4.50 in that stretch. I’m not saying era is a great stat to go by…but if you cant get through 6 giving up 3 runs or less then you cant be called a frontline starter!
Boyd should come with a buyer beware sticker! Braves please stay away!
Seem and seam are also different.
He also has 54 k’s and 5 bb’s in his last six starts totaling 34.1 innings. That k/bb ratio is top tier. Needs to pitch deeper in games but everyone can see the appeal with him.
Thank you Chives. In his last start he was up to 95mph. That is all I said was he is up to 95mph because that is another improvement to his game.
Right on Chives those are Scherzer like numbers.
What this comes down to is Boyd was not a big time SP prospect so his season is a mystery to those who do not follow Boyd’s career so they think it is a mirage looking at past seasons. If he was a big prospect this season would be looked as “he finally broke through” and “He has it figured out so watch out”
This June Boyd has still dominated hitters for the most part but homers have caused his ERA to jump up. If his outliner numbers regressed in June then there would be reasons to worry but teams out there know those advanced stats he is still putting up show July and August could easily be dominant like April and June.
TB you have a great farm system but when it comes to trades for top assets leave it to the big boys (LA,NY,Astros).
Nothing about Matt Boyd should ever be compared to Max Scherzer.
Bobby Witt struck out some guys. Wow, he’s Angels Nolan Ryan.
Boyd’s road numbers should have every GM stop and think about what they are thinking.
Braves have at least 6 arms in the system that will be better than Boyd. Maybe more.
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It is easy to say that about arms in Atl farm, actually a lazy take really just to make a point imo.
As much as it pains you I’m sorry but Boyd is actually better than Max in K/BB ratio this year…In fact better than any pitcher.
I really hope he gets traded so I can stop seeing all this back and forth on Boyd. Definitely don’t want to see this for the next 2-3 years.
Rays say OK, But those teams you mentioned don’t have the talent we have! #2 farm system is baseball! you want guaranteed talent you have to go to the Rays!
Lazy? Let’s examine….
– I say Atlanta has a stockpile of prospects who were better than Boyd when he was a prospect (I’m a Jays fan, I remember him). One would think some would improve and exceed what Boyd has accomplished at this point for a longer period.
– You say Boyd is actually better than Max in….and then come up with a few months of work. Max is a future Hall of Famer, Boyd is a question mark.
Because you haven’t looked at overall body of work I’d say you’re being lazy. Then again Boyd can get lit up in his next start proving you wrong. My guess is the rest will help him, he will have a good start and then get ripped in Aug/Sept.
Hard pass on Boyd. Sorry kid. Not a chance in hell I’d hang my hat on some glorified #4 pitching in no-pressure games aided by better home numbers in a pitcher’s park. He’s a 5-era pitching in the AL East.
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I know about Atl and their SP prospects and I know Boyd was not ranked like they are currently but to say they will eventually be better than Boyd because they were higher ranked prospects is shortsighted and a lazy take. If that is the case Porcello should get better than Kluber any day now…
I never compared Boyd to Max as an overall pitcher at all. My comment was Boyd’s K/BB in June were Scherzer like. You then said do not mention Boyd and Scherzer in any comparison and I responded this year Boyd’s K/BB ratio does compare to Max and actually better than any pitcher in baseball??
I am not a kid btw I am 43yrs old and BTW I would take Boyd over Stroman including contract/control just like teams
Around baseball would
Imo.
so does Keuchel. this is the reason why I think Allard can make things work. he gets guys out in AAA for 2 years now. does it well. I think his added 2 mph this year puts him at 89-92. if his command comes through as expected he can be a reliable number 4/5 in our rotation.
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Sometimes you have to give up prospects to go all in for a championship. Do u remember John Smoltz???? Tigers traded him to Braves for Doyle Alexander. I hated that trade but I believe Alexander was like 12-0 with the Tigers. I hated that trade from day 1 but the Tigers had the balls to go for it!!
IMO if we were to go after Greinke make Arizona pay for a good portion of his contract and if we were to get Madbum I’d say make sure of a guaranteed contract extension is included in the deal, but don’t back the truck up either.
i Like this Greinke talk!, However the Rays would have to commit to about 12mill (of 34) per year left in his contract even with trading a prospect or 2.. Greinke and a 9th inning closer could win their division! Greinke is still an ace and overlooked in baseball!
As a depressed Tigers fan, my ideal trade scenario is Boyd & Greene to the Dodgers for Lux and May. I don’t think the Dodgers would do it, but let me dream.
Those 2 are untouchable for the Dodgers, unless it’s for a superstar in return.
Understandable. Again, just a dream. Besides those two and Ruiz, What prospects do they have to offer? I don’t know if I see trade path for the two sides for a Boyd deal.
I like Jeter Downs a lot but without Lux or May than no Boyd trade imo.
The Dodgers have prospects in the system. Gonsolin, Downs, Cartaya, Gray would all be solid pieces. I don’t necessarily think Boyd is the guy to deal from their catching depth (Smith and Ruiz) but you can only start one of them.
The dodgers won’t trade for Boyd so troll on bub
Boud isnt worth that much
Not enough…It would take at least Lux, May and a few other top prospects to get just Boyd….more for Greene
Those 2 players would be only part of the package for both Boyd and Greene
I hope the braves find a way to trade Touki. He is starting to remind me of Wisler and Sims.
How many times are you going to copy and paste this ridiculous comment to try and rattle cages? I am not Toukis biggest fan, but seeing his curveball just once would make the most amateur of baseball fans distinguish him from the waiver wire surfers that are Wisler and Sims.
Touki has tremendous movement on his pitches. He is not made for the pen but instead needs regular starts in the rotation.
There’s no question Boyd is having a terrific season… but to be honest I’m not really sold that it’s 100% legit, or more accurately that it’s entirely sustainable. I mean hey maybe he is really a breakout “late-bloomer” with Ace potential but I just feel like there’s an equal chance he’s having a career year and is bound to regress back more towards the pitcher he has been the past few years rather than continue on an upward trend. No matter what he’s definitely a solid trade chip for the Tigers and more than likely a legitimate SP for a contender down the stretch. I’m just really not ready to go all in on him and say he’s a ‘budding ace’ that a team should bet the farm on to acquire him with the assumption of him being a #1/2 SP for the next several seasons. Nothing against the guy I wish him well… i’m just not entirely sold that he’s all of a sudden one of the best SPs in baseball when just a year ago he was nothing more than a solid back of the rotation arm.
I agree. He has some excellent numbers, but quite frankly how do we know if his opposition is really bringing it after that -159 team run differential?
Wouldn’t that mean that the opposition is bringing it more often than not?
He’s not and never will be man. Your thinking right. He’s having one of those lucky years and will fade here soon , wait a minute he’s already starting to fade lol
Go read the analytic reports on line on Boyd from Astros and Astros fans…
Boyd is actually much better than his current numbers show…Trade him to a contender with much better defense, much better bullpen, better hitters and much better analytic approach than the Tigers (like Houston) and Boyd’s ERA is 1 point lower his wins are much higher..
See Verlander and Gerrit Cole for similar examples…
He’s pitching in the easiest division now, so it won’t go down a run from switching teams. And his numbers are better than who he actually is. Like I said he’s trending downward and will continue that trend weather he gets traded or not.
And stop comparing him to people who had success before and s track record. Boyd has no track record of being good. His 10/18 quality starts tells you how he has no track record
You have little or no baseball knowledge.
Every one of the top analytics teams are heavily scouting Boyd to make bids on him: Dodgers, Astros, Phillies, Red Sox, Yankees, Braves, Brewers and much more.
They see in Boyd what the average fan who applies the incorrect information and improper analysis techniques cannot see and understand.
Boyd leads the majors in K/BB ratio and is near the top in most other analytic categories.
Tigers used analytics to change Boyd’s pitch selections and to adjust his mechanics.
Analytics experts say the changes in Boyd are very real and sustainable longterm.
A Rays rotation of Morton, Boyd, Snell, Glasnow and chirinos would be real tough to beat in a playoff series.
Rays need to worry about the Yankees and Red Sox first, then you can talk playoffs
Red Sox LMAOOOOOO HA. Okayyyyyy. There single A pitching staff is scary
Their *
Rays have the talent and the farm system to pass and beat the Yankees.
Red Sox have too many holes…a stripped farm system and will finish behind both the Rays and the Yankees this year….
You can’t pass the Yanks in the standings if you get your bottoms handed to you by them in the way they have so far.
Yup. Bosox farm resembles Old MacDonald’s. DD decimated the Tigers farm too. E-I-E-I-O.
Rays are loaded with talent on the MLB roster and very deep in the farm system.
Rays have enough talent and can add pieces to pass the Yankees.
Red Sox are on the bubble of missing the playoffs.
Yankees, Indians. Twins. Astros, Rays will finish better than the Red Sox…
A Rays rotaton like that would pass the Yankees and win t he Division
I’m good buddies with AA. Comongo, Allard and Touks for Green is the buzz
For Greene? No Boyd? Sign me up!
You’re buzzed. Take away Comongo from a playoff depth and you just hurt the depth for a one-year wonder of a closer that could revert anytime now. Touks could have more value during the stretch run than Greene.
last outting BOYD was throwing 94, there is a difference between a 2 seem fastball and 4 seem fastball. 91 would be the 2 seemer with cut action
Greene is not a free agent so would be the rest of this year and all next season
Toussaint has more value than Greene? Well that’s not delusional at all…
I think the chives May have gone to your head. I’ll bet anything a lesser prospect goes back for Greene than Touki. Relievers like Greene don’t bring back guys like that.
That’s fine. As long as it’s not Touki. And yes the weed is good! :)
Buzz all you want….Tigers will take the highest bidders on Boyd, Greene and others…
More teams with deep farm systems are jumping in every day..
Anyone who is having a terrific season in the Majors is currently better than someone in the minors (if your goal is to make the playoffs and win a potential World Series). As a Tiger fan, I am not sure how good Boyd actually is, but prospects are prospects. If the Tigers aren’t blown away, they have no reason to trade him, so to think any team will get him for less than a top prospect plus is ludicrous.
No it isnt.
Boyd is worth multiple, young top prospects and players..Those who think otherwise will be left standing when the music stops and Boyd is donning the uniform of one of their competitor contenders for the next WS Championship..
He is not worth multiple top prospects. Just like with Fulmer, the Tigers will hold on to him because they ask for too much…He will then loss all trade value like Fulmer did. Just like over his last 6 starts where he has started showing signs of regression. 1 quality start in his last 6 starts. You dont get multiple top prospects for a guy that isn’t able to at least give you a quality start.
LMFAO..!
Yes Boyd is worth that much and more.
Obviously, you know little or nothing about analytics.
Boyd’s numbers would be even better on a pennant contending team with a great defense, an offense that supports his efforts and a more advanced analytics department that was not just set up over the past year or so…
Same thing they said about Verlander…He was not worth it…
Ditto Gerrit Cole..
No trading Renfroe or Reyes. Pads have enough assets but if either of those two are mentioned…hang up Preller.
No trading Renfroe or Reyes. Pads have enough assets but if either of those two are mentioned…hang up Preller.
And in other obvious news, the sun rose in the sky today again!
not that he isn’t having a decent year, but someone’s going to overpay for him. good on the tigers if they get someone who will. definitely not worth a huge haul in my opinion. reminds me of when bud norris was in big demand. a big asking price for an (in general) underwhelming pitcher.
I wouldn’t say underwhelming. I wouldn’t say overwhelming either. He’s a #3 with team control. You are right though, a team will overpay for him.
Best starter on the market with youth, team control, lhsp, low salary, on of baseball’s leaders in strikeouts to walks ratios and rates highly in most analytical categories..
You sound like his agent. You don’t need to sell him to me, I’m a Tigers fan.
Lol I’d take wheeler and Duffy over boyd
What analytic categories u talking about?
LMFAO
Cool story bro
Yep exactly
Reminds me of when a certain NYC team lowballed the Tigers on Verlander and lost out on a WS Title..
Ditto with Gerrit Cole…
A few teams keep on patching their rotation with bondo and bailing wire
and see where it gets you……a seat in your living room for the WS…
PIckles… it doesnt matter the Dodgers wont trade any of their top prospects why it cost them the World Series the last 2 years and it will cost them again this season. They had a chance to get Verlander and didnt. Where did he go??? oh the Astros, how did that work out for ya, lmao
I try to ignore him
You love spitting yourself fake narratives. The Dodgers traded for Machado last year and he was indisputably the best player available. Making that trade is what got them to the World Series. Verlander didn’t come at a crazy prospect cost because of his contract. They could have traded a similar package to what they gave up for Yu. It was the money not the prospects. Trt and have a little clue instead of making up stuff.
what top prospects did the Dodgers give up??? What pitchers did they pick up ?? They had to get Machado due to the fact Seager was hurt. He was a rental!!
Dodgers dropped the ball on Verlander, Gerrit Cole and others….
When is the last time the Dodgers won a WS?!
When Mike Scoscia and Kirk Gibson were playing on the team lmfao?!
Dodgers have a great core, but always come up a few players short..
Can’t understand why a team so close to multiple WS Championships can be so dumb. and cheap at acquiring and paying the player(s) who will put them over the top…
Wait the Dodgers dropped the ball on Verlander and Cole? Its almost like they would have beat Boston with those 2 in the rotation. Oh wait they lost in 5 just the same.
Lol I’m not a dodgers fan ya goof
Ditto with the Yankees who talked down Verlander and his value to try to drive his price down(typical NYY tactic and assisted by the NY Media),
Did Verlander win a WS for the Yankees?! NO.
Was Gerritt Cole traded to the Yankees?! NO AGAIN.
Will Boyd go to the Yankees?!
Probably Not!
Cashman and Hal Steinbrenner have been reading too many NYY press releases.
Tigers are not going to roll over and hand them Boyd for a few scrubs the NYY do not want.
Dodgers and NYY want something for nothing.
Either pay high market value for upgrades\
or watch the player upgrades go to other ballclubs that agree to pay high market value or overpay for players like Boyd and Greene.
Al Avila is not going to hand you those players when you are not dealing in “good faith”.
Putting a “lock box” on most of your top young players and prospects is not acting in “good faith”…
Dodgers and Yankees… LOL “But looky how many trophies we gots… (blows the dust off the display case) Players be beggin to be parts of dis legendary franchise”
Then why don’t they offer to take pay cuts in order to keep the team salary below the luxury tax like some good players do with other teams? Yanks and Dodgers are both destinations and part of it does have to do with winning a championship. However that is only the smallest part of it. They really want to play there for the paycheck. For most free agent signees of those two teams, that is the beginning of the thought and that is the end of the thought. Unfortunately the end result is a bunch of mercenaries that would be willing to trade that world championship for another couple of million a year. In the past thirty years I can’t think of a single good significant player that took a pay cut to sign with the Yanks. I can think of many that did so to play for other teams. What is it about the Yanks (even with their 27 championships) that makes other players require more financial compensation just to play there? It’s a well known fact around baseball: if a significant free agent is going to play for the Yanks then the Yanks are going to have to pay him more than any other team in baseball would ever be willing to pay them. I don’t have any personal foresight or insider knowledge on the situation, but if your team can only get good players to play for them by paying them more than everyone else, that has to say something about your team. I don’t know exactly what it says… but I do know it doesn’t say anything good.
That was then and this is now….
Parity has come to MLB….
NYY have not won anything in 10 years.
Most of those titles were from a different era ….grandpa’s, great grandpa’s eras where the rules favored the NYY..
With collective bargaining and every team owned by a billionaire owner or corporation, it is pushback time…..
Braves should stay away from this guy
Rays have no need for Boyd unless they can also acquire Greene in a reasonable multi player trade. The Rays have Chinros, Yarborough, Beeks and rookie McCay with Deleon and Bando healthy now. Next year Honeywell and McCay with Snell, Morton,and Glasnow are formidable. The Rays need 9th inning relief pitching! why complicate the search?
Boyd will be pitching Saturday night in front of a whole slew of scouts, would not be surprised to see him dealt after that start if he does well
No way Pache goes in a Boyd trade – he is by no means elite. A sixth round pick and before this year was awful.
If they want Boyd you should have them take Zimmerman too. Dumping Zimmerman’s contract would accelerate the rebuild.
Zimmerman has just one year left on contract not to mention he would limit the prospect talent coming back in the deal if he was included. So this idea would hurt the rebuilding process imo.
That was then and this is now….
Parity has come to MLB….
NYY have not won anything in 10 years.
Most of those titles were from a different era ….grandpa’s, great grandpa’s eras where the rules favored the NYY..
NYY fans sound like Michigan college football fans who still brag about how dominant their team was 50-100 years ago…
NOBODY CARES OUTSIDE OF NYC.
With collective bargaining and every team owned by a billionaire owner or corporation, it is pushback time…..
This prospect hugging is getting funny. If you are a team like Minnesota or Atlanta and have a chance to go for it then you go for it. Prospects are just that prospects until they prove they can do it on the big stage.
Boyd is a proven big league pitcher Greene is a proven big league reliever same is true of Strohman and Giles. Those types of guys are going to cost quite a bit. If you are a team that feels you are good enough to win it this year then go get the proven big leaguers to make it happen. Prospects come and go but flags fly forever.
If you are a rebuilding team such as Detroit then you should be prospect huggers they are the most important asset to any rebuilding team but the fact remains most prospects flame out. Go back over the last 20 years and look at the first round draft picks and how many flame out. Makes no sense to hug the prospects when you can win a championship.
Boyd is very good and while he might not be a true #1 ace where else are top level #2&3s available. Syndergaard and Boyd if traded will bring back a haul of at least 2 top 100 prospects because they’re the only options out there. Teams could wait for cole in free agency but that’s going to cost over 100 million while Boyd and Noah will have manageable salaries for the next couple year
Please God do not let Alvia mess this up!!!
As a tigers fan I actually hope they don’t trade him. I feel like he has grown a lot these last two seasons. He is a big time gamer and has made some big changes in his diet and training that seem to be paying off. Maybe it’s just the Homer in me but I feel like he will be more valuable here than what they will probably get in return.
Best thing for the Tigers would be to trade Boyd if the right offer comes along.
Tigers can fill 4-5 holes by trading Boyd: OF, INF, Rotation, bullpen etc…
The right trade will jumpstart and accelerate the Tigers rebuild…
The Braves can help in that department I like Greene more to go after but to help fill those spots. Camargo Inf, Gausman P, Ender Of, Kyle Wright Bullpen now then to Rotation
Gausman is what 28?!
Rebuilding teams don’t trade for 28 year old starters…
Pache may be of interest. OF
Camargo INF
Wright or Anderson RHSP
Contreras C