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Phillies Acquire Jason Vargas

By Jeff Todd | July 29, 2019 at 4:45pm CDT

4:46pm: The move is official. The Phillies designated righty Yacksel Rios to open a 40-man spot.

3:51pm: The Phillies have reportedly struck a deal to acquire veteran lefty Jason Vargas from the Mets. Catcher Austin Bossart is going to the New York organization in the swap. The Mets will cover the larger portion of the remaining contractual obligation to Vargas, ultimately saving $2MM.

This long-anticipated trade of Vargas clears a rotation spot for just-acquired righty Marcus Stroman. Though Vargas is far senior to Stroman in age and MLB service, they’re in similar contract situations. The former is earning $8MM this year with a $8MM club option. The latter is taking down a $7.4MM salary in 2019 and stands to earn a nice raise on that amount in the offseason, when he’ll go through the arbitration process for the final time. Viewed in the aggregate, the Mets will still end up taking on added salary (and giving up prospect capital), though they did get $1.5MM in salary relief as part of the Stroman swap. The New York org will remain on the hook for what’s left of Vargas’s remaining 2019 salary along with a $250K assignment bonus. The Phillies will be responsible for a $2MM buyout on the option.

It’s not surprising to see Vargas on the move. It’s mostly a salary-saving transaction, designed to help partially offset the new obligations to Stroman. The 26-year-old Bossart won’t really make up for the prospects sent to the Blue Jays. He’s in the midst of a rough campaign, his second at the Double-A level. In his 236 trips to the plate, he’s slashing just .195/.303/.335 with seven home runs.

The more interesting question for the Mets is whether any of the club’s other starters will end up following Vargas out the door. While there has never been any indication that the club is considering offers on Jacob deGrom, it is said to be interesting in moving Zack Wheeler and/or Noah Syndergaard. The latter two starters are indeed still on the block, Mike Puma of the New York Post tweets.

There are questions, too, from the Phillies’ perspective. It seems fair to assume that Vargas will step into the rotation, though it’s not clear where the opening will come from. And it remains to be seen whether the club will also pursue other pitching upgrades.

Vargas, 36, won’t exactly be a marquee addition for the Phils, but he ought to help hold firm up the staff down the stretch. The soft-tossing southpaw has somehow managed to keep opposing hitters off balance despite averaging less than 85 mph with his fastball. He has bounced back from a terrible start to the season and steadily delivered solid work. He carries a 4.01 ERA through 94 1/3 frames, with 7.7 K/9 against 3.7 BB/9.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

Andy Martino of SNY.tv first reported that a deal involving Vargas was close (via Twitter). ESPN.com’s Jeff Passan reported that the Phillies were the acquiring team (Twitter link). Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter) and Jon Heyman of MLB Network (in a tweet) reported on the return. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic tweeted that the Mets would be covering some of the remaining cost, with Sherman tweeting the financial details.

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  1. kaido24

    2 years ago

    Brewers?

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    • Alex

      2 years ago

      I would cry as a brewer fan if they actually did this

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    • Coach Him

      2 years ago

      Maybe Phillies should check in on Jamie Moyer while they are at it. Vargas…Seriously Vargas.

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      • BobbyVwannabe

        2 years ago

        Lol enjoy

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  2. Dankgesang

    2 years ago

    hahahahahahha the Crew gonna have Jason Dang Vargas on their squad. This is great.

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    • siddfinch1079

      2 years ago

      apparently not…

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  3. PapiElf

    2 years ago

    Minnesota?

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    • twinsfan77

      2 years ago

      I hope not…This would be no improvement, I’d rather have Smeltzer or Thorpe as a #5 and move Perez to the pen.

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    • Jeff Zanghi

      2 years ago

      Tampa? St Louis? Milwaukie? San Francisco? Toronto? Los Angelos? Oakland? Texas? Houston? Atlanta? Baltimore? New York? San Diego? Seattle? Miami? Cleveland? The Moon? Mars?

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      • khopper10

        2 years ago

        Haha still missed it

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      • nymetsking

        2 years ago

        Dantooine.

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      • Pickle_Britches

        2 years ago

        You picked every team but Philly lol

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    • Rezonator

      2 years ago

      The hell would Minnesota want with Vargas?

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      • nymetsking

        2 years ago

        Fill a vacancy in the PR dept?

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  4. francys08

    2 years ago

    Oh. Who could be the team? My guess is the Phillies or Yankees. No one can be ruled out.

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    • c ya

      2 years ago

      you are the winner, phillies

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    • francys08

      2 years ago

      Bingo. I was right. This is good for the Phillies. Two consecutive trades since last year. Last year, Asdrubal Cabrera was traded to the Phillies and now Vargas. Hopefully, he can continue pitching well for his new team now. Let’s go Phillies.

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      • Confortoismyspiritanimal

        2 years ago

        How you gonna root for Phillies while having the Cards picture?

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        • EndinStealth

          2 years ago

          Why does that matter?

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        • francys08

          2 years ago

          Me. Do you have a problem with that? Well, deal with it because let me tell you that my favorite teams are Cardinals, Phillies, Rangers and Rays. That is a simple explanation for you can understand that you can like more than one team.

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        • fox471

          2 years ago

          No…. you really can’t.

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        • southi

          2 years ago

          Why can’t someone like more than one team? Is the a written rule somewhere that forbids liking multiple teams?

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        • RootedInOakland

          2 years ago

          With all the haters talking about baseball dying I’m always supportive of good fans but yea u kinda have to pick one and then jus have the rest as teams to root for in the playoffs when ur favorite squad sucks, although I admit it’s hard to relate to people living in the boring/no pro-sports states if that’s ur case

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        • Woods Rider

          2 years ago

          No, but considering the history between STL and PHL (especially 2011), that pairing is odd.

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        • swissvale

          2 years ago

          Yeah, me too – my favorite teams last year were the Red Sox, Patriots, Raptors, and Blues.

          If anybody wants a good deal on 2017 Warriors or Capitals swag let me know

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        • parkdav

          2 years ago

          For a second I was just like, “OK Boston fan”. Legit LOL

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        • fantasticword-

          2 years ago

          Yes, I have a problem with that. It’s very cringy. I’ve seen a lot of your posts
          and I’m glad someone brought that up, because as a matter of fact, you compliment and sing the praises of the Phillies more so than you do your own team. Even the other teams you list I’ve never seen you more giddy over than Philly. You’re either incredibly young or very strange. Either way you do you, I guess.

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        • gronk

          2 years ago

          (Favorite : Preferred before ALL others of the same kind.) You can like 4 mlb teams but I’m afraid you can only have 1 favorite.

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        • Cat Mando

          2 years ago

          gronk……
          Then explain the often used word “favorites” such as “While I wait I will play some music, 20 of my favorites.

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        • Willy Mays

          2 years ago

          Rooting for 4 teams means you really don’t like anyone that much, Since these teams do play each other it is pretty silly to root for 4 teams.And having a Cardinal picture and then saying you root for 3 other teams is just stupid

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      • BartoloHRball

        2 years ago

        Vargas has been pitching really well (for him) this year. He has been a more than servicable #5 and on many teams he’d be a surprising #4. I thought he should have retired after last years showing, but he bounced back. No idea about the PHI prospect, but they are getting a perfectly serviceable back-end starter.

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        • DarkSide830

          2 years ago

          Bossart’s numbers up until this season weren’t too bad could just be a case of dissapointment due to the lack of a promotion. either way, he’s an ivy (U Penn) guy, so he could always end up in the FO.

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        • algionfriddo

          2 years ago

          BartoloHRball – Yep. Haters gotta hate.

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        • rgreen

          2 years ago

          He’s been a backup catcher in a system that hasn’t really developed any good catchers.

          But he’s going to the Mets,so he’ll probably be the 1 drafted Phillies catcher to become serviceable

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  5. krillin89

    2 years ago

    Twins

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  6. justin33broja

    2 years ago

    Twins if I were to guess

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    • jrad2007

      2 years ago

      I’d guess you are wrong

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  7. steelerbravenation

    2 years ago

    Yankees for Gleybar

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    • c ya

      2 years ago

      lol

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      2 years ago

      Everybody this year for Gleybar reminds me of the previous two years rumors regarding the return on Sweihart…

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      • spinach

        2 years ago

        Except Gleyber is extremely good.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          2 years ago

          My attempted point was only the ridiculousness of the number of comments.

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  8. PapiElf

    2 years ago

    Minnesota or Oakland?

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  9. Bobby K

    2 years ago

    And the Dam breaks….

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  10. ThePriceWasRight

    2 years ago

    Ray’s definitely

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    • jrad2007

      2 years ago

      Definitely not

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  11. Daver520

    2 years ago

    Reds are reported to be suitor … shipping Scooter Ginnett to Mets along with cash

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    • Ketch

      2 years ago

      Why would the Mets want a rental 2b?

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      • Confortoismyspiritanimal

        2 years ago

        Why would the reds want a rental pitcher? They aren’t a Vargas away from the WC.

        They are shopping Iglesias and possibly Castillo.

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        • bledrules

          2 years ago

          The Reds are not shopping Castillo the Yankees were rumored to be after him (rightfully so)

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        • JCM11

          2 years ago

          They are almost certainly not shopping Castillo.

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      • EndinStealth

        2 years ago

        Why would the Mets want a AA guy that is hitting under .200

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    • Matt Galvin

      2 years ago

      No way Reds Sellers. Cardinals? Astros? Dodgers? Twins? Yankees?

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  12. ChiSox_Fan

    2 years ago

    Nats

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  13. spinach

    2 years ago

    A’s.

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  14. cardsfan1988

    2 years ago

    this has St Louis written all over it

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    • baseballpun

      2 years ago

      Gotta match the big Lyles and Holland acquisitions at the top of the Central.

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    • CJ81

      2 years ago

      so happy it’s not!

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    • batty

      2 years ago

      Guess you’ll be needing an eraser.

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  15. Tigers2384

    2 years ago

    What the hell are the Mets doing? I am starting to believe they hired Matt Millen into their front office or something.

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    • snotrocket

      2 years ago

      Drugs. Hard drugs.

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      • Tigers2384

        2 years ago

        All the drugs. At the same time.

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    • jbigz12

      2 years ago

      Maybe they want to tee off against Vargas.

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      • DarkSide830

        2 years ago

        stonks

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    • nymetsking

      2 years ago

      No. Please God, no. Please tell me they didn’t just ship out perennial MVP Vargas.

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      • Boogaloo

        2 years ago

        And the Wilpon Apologists are out again.

        They traded a useful starter to save 2 million and you will defend it because you can’t get enough of licking wilpons boots

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      2 years ago

      Nice comparison. I actually liked yesterday’s trade with Toronto but in this market with so many teams looking for pitching, I’m shocked the team traded with a divisional rival for nothing but salary relief.

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    • BartoloHRball

      2 years ago

      Any move made by the Mets REQUIRES the blessing of Jeff Wilpon, the idiot son of the Mets patriarch and Madoff benefactor…Fred Wilpon.

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  16. beardedface_killah

    2 years ago

    Red Sox for JBJ.

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    • bdallen714

      2 years ago

      Hell no

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    • Jeff Zanghi

      2 years ago

      That’s a joke right? Like it makes no sense from any perspective… Why would the Red Sox want another #5 SP? Especially after just acquiring Cashner? And also like there’s 0 chance they deal JBJ – nevermind deal him for a rental #5 starter… I’ve just got to assume your kidding…

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      • dark vengeance

        2 years ago

        I’d actually say Jeff you are wrong. It would definitely make sense from a Mets perspective.

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  17. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    nice job klentak

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      oh snap i was just hoping. im very pleased

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  18. Daver520

    2 years ago

    ESPN reporting Mets receiving Scooter Ginnett and Sal Romano for Jason Vargas

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    • brewcrew08

      2 years ago

      That’s not true at all lol

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      • nymetsking

        2 years ago

        There’s a better chance they get Sal Monella.

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  19. of9376

    2 years ago

    Giants would be my guess

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  20. ElMagoN9ne

    2 years ago

    Yomiuri Giants

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  21. king beas

    2 years ago

    Wow the padres gave up gore

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  22. dray16

    2 years ago

    please be Milwaukee

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    • baseballpun

      2 years ago

      Cubs fan?

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  23. jbooth2367

    2 years ago

    Phillies got him

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    • fits65

      2 years ago

      Brody got 100 cheese steaks complete WITZ Whiz Cheese and mushrooms. It was a stroke of Genius!

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      • ElMagoN9ne

        2 years ago

        Replace the mushrooms with red bell peppers or jalapeno peppers. Mushrooms should be legal because how disgusting they are.

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        • batty

          2 years ago

          Most are legal…

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        • DarkSide830

          2 years ago

          dont say that in Philly. just about half the world’s supply are locally grown

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        • ElMagoN9ne

          2 years ago

          I would never order a philly cheesesteak in philly with mushrooms.

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  24. RyKlug19

    2 years ago

    Phillies

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  25. steelerbravenation

    2 years ago

    ESPN
    To Reds for Scooter Gennet & Sal Romano ?????
    May be fake
    Nope mlbnetwork says it’s official Phillied

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  26. twinsfan368

    2 years ago

    Phillies

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  27. jim stem

    2 years ago

    An A ball player in any team’s top 35 would be acceptable, preferable an outfielder.

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  28. Eric Olson

    2 years ago

    Gary Railcats for a Pretzel Dog and a Rusty the Railcat keychain.

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  29. MetsFanaticDanny

    2 years ago

    Phillies

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  30. jaddldmad

    2 years ago

    Phillies?

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  31. krillin89

    2 years ago

    Whoa, what a random move. I guess it makes sense. Phils know they have a shot at the WC and are going for it. Not a high cost move but does help their chances to make the post season.

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  32. GiantsX3

    2 years ago

    Giants? They need a cheap rental SP so I’m simply speculating.

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      he certianly isnt cheap, thats for sure

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      • Woods Rider

        2 years ago

        I wonder how much cash the Mets gave the Phillies. The article mentions cash but doesn’t say how much.

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        • DarkSide830

          2 years ago

          saving $2 million it says now, so presuming they use the buyout, Phils are only paying. for the buyout, while the Mets cover the rest of this year’s salery. (roughly $3 mil)

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        • Woods Rider

          2 years ago

          That’s about as cheap a rental you can get.

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        • jbigz12

          2 years ago

          And if he is successful the Phillies could keep him on a 1 year 8MM deal instead. That’s not very expensive.

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  33. metnoxious

    2 years ago

    For being deemed such a bum a lot of teams sound interested.

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  34. edcl54

    2 years ago

    You better get better pitching then Vargas ! You have a roster loaded with 5th and 6th starters, except Nola. Vargas is another mediocre addition, congrats Klentak in continuing your half a**ed job

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    • ckln88

      2 years ago

      I say he goes on a run of like 7 amazing games. Just to spite the Mets even more. You heard it here first.

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  35. snotrocket

    2 years ago

    See you tomorrow, Jason.

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  36. dtrainriotmaker

    2 years ago

    So wait they are trading with themselves , a catcher from the Mets double a is coming back in return ? Are the mets that disfunctional?

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    • baseballpun

      2 years ago

      Yes.

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  37. philsphan1979

    2 years ago

    Middle finger to you Klentek! Always signing these washed up pitchers in their late 30’s. They were better off calling up some help from the minors instead of giving the Mets any of our young players (no matter how good they aren’t)

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    • jbigz12

      2 years ago

      Philly has cycled through nearly every pitcher that’s ML ready in their minors and none of them have posted a 4.1 ERA like Vargas. Like it or not he’s an upgrade. Clearly not the one you wanted but this doesn’t preclude them for grabbing another starter. The rotation sucks.

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      • timpa

        2 years ago

        His FIP is closer to 5 than 4.

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        • jbigz12

          2 years ago

          Vargas isn’t particularly good that’s why you got him and some salary eaten for a complete non prospect. That 4.71 FIP would actually put him 2nd in the Phils rotation right now btw. He’s a #5. That’s about what you get. The Phillies have seen that none of their AAA arms can even give them that.

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        • DarkSide830

          2 years ago

          Vargas consistently outperforms his FIP anyway, and outside of last year has a solid track record. he certianly isnt a stud, but a lot better then, say, Eflin right now.

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      • Woods Rider

        2 years ago

        Agreed. Vargas isn’t sexy, but at least he can make it out of the 5th inning (he might even be able to do it without giving up 5 runs).

        Besides, who’s to say that Klentak still doesn’t go out and get Tanner Roark for peanuts. That too, would be an upgrade.

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      the help they have called upon have all fallen flat. idve given either EDLS or Irvin longer shots, but Vargas has been solid this year, and with the Mets paying some of his salery, its perfectly palatable.

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  38. fantasticword-

    2 years ago

    Looks like the Phillies got a new player to play Fortnite with..

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  39. itslonelyatthetrop

    2 years ago

    Puzzling.

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  40. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    getting Vargas for less then his full salery is an absolute win. he probably wolnt be as good as he was earlier in the season, and may fall off alltogether next year, but he can eat innings and should help take the strain off of Eflin of Arrieta (one is likely to hit the IL)

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    • Confortoismyspiritanimal

      2 years ago

      Has a 6.23 career ERA at Citizens.

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      • Woods Rider

        2 years ago

        Still better than any current starter not named Nola. Yes, that’s sad.

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      • mrnatewalter

        2 years ago

        *Against the Phillies.

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      • DarkSide830

        2 years ago

        that’s on the road, and a lot of those starts were fron last year when he struggled. im pretty sure i remember him torching us at home a few moths ago, so i cant imagine he can’t play at all here.

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    • BartoloHRball

      2 years ago

      I kept waiting for the wheels to fall off, but Vargas has been a legit #4/#5 for the Mets. A 4.1 ERA in the juiced ball era isn’t anything to sneeze at…..until you get to his FIP. He will eat some innings, though when he goes bad…he goes REALLY bad.

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      • DarkSide830

        2 years ago

        yeah, i remember first thinking about the idea of getting him a few weeks ago, and it looks like his ERA has gone up since then. i dont think he’ll be too great the rest of the way, but i dont imagine the wheels will fall off too much through the rest of the year, and there is a buyout, so the risk isnt terribly high.

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  41. Plakata45

    2 years ago

    Good Riddance!

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  42. baseballpun

    2 years ago

    When you get a chance to trade for a 26 year old still in Double A having a down year, you pull that trigger and don’t bother waiting until closer to the deadline when pitching-desperate contenders who missed out on their first or second (or eighth) choices come calling.

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    • ExileInLA

      2 years ago

      If you don’t have a catcher, you’re gonna have a lot of passed balls.

      That’s old Met wisdom!

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  43. bravesfan

    2 years ago

    What an odd string of events this offseason

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  44. Plakata45

    2 years ago

    “The 26-year-old is in the midst of a rough campaign, his second at the Double-A level. In his 236 trips to the plate, he’s slashing just .195/.303/.335 with seven home runs.”….pathetic…In the meantime the Dodgers crank out stud players like hotcakes LOL.

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  45. mrnatewalter

    2 years ago

    It’s been said that Austin Bossart played baseball with Jeff Wilpon’s son.

    This trade came from ownership, and nothing more.

    The Mets truly are dysfunctional at the highest order.

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    • BartoloHRball

      2 years ago

      That is 100% believable. The Mets are *that* dysfunctional.

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    • lgm32

      2 years ago

      yep, at Penn

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    • jbigz12

      2 years ago

      The Mets minor league catching depth is horrendous. So it was an area where they could’ve used a guy. If they were gonna deal Vargas anyway I guess he got himself a kid he liked. Whatever. Good for Bossart maybe he’ll hit the big leagues for a short period of time and get himself a pension.

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  46. bradthebluefish

    2 years ago

    Not a bad fetch for the Mets

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    • jbigz12

      2 years ago

      The organizational depth catcher? I mean Vargas was never going to bring back anything remotely interesting but I wouldn’t call this a good return. About what should’ve been expected but by no means good.

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  47. agentx

    2 years ago

    Precursor to a Devin Mesoraco trade?

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  48. metnoxious

    2 years ago

    The biggest question is, how the freak did a Wilpon get into college let alone Penn?? Must have used some of the Madoff cash that they made off with to bribe someone to get him in.

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    • baseballpun

      2 years ago

      I don’t think there’s any doubt about how some rich a-hole’s kid gets into a good college. Or any college.

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    • ExileInLA

      2 years ago

      Especially Penn. Wharton will admit anybody with a rich daddy…no matter how bigoted they are.

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  49. briansaglimben15

    2 years ago

    My Phillies are such a joke

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      How is this a bad move for Philly at all? The Mets are even eating some salary. The Phillies got a pitcher who is better than 4 of their current starters. Vargas isn’t great, but the Phillies are a better team and they lost a prospect that would’ve never made the team. Solid move here.

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      • Woods Rider

        2 years ago

        Some people just can’t handle Klentak being smart. I remember hearing the same complaints when the Segura trade happened.

        This is an absolute win-win for the Phillies right now. It’s just not the sexy name most Phils Phans want.

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        • ForestCobraAL

          2 years ago

          Hi Mrs. Klentak. Your son is a very nice boy, but running an MLB team is not the right career choice.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          I am baffled that any Phillies fan has a problem with this move. Have you not seen Eflin, Arrieta and Velazquez? Vargas is better than them and the Phils got Vargas for nothing

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        • Woods Rider

          2 years ago

          And they gave up nothing! They could still go after Roark and give up mostly nothing and have more stability. Additionally, nothing is stopping them from getting Boyd, MadBum, or any other pitcher out there.

          I’d love to see them go out and bring Giles home.

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        • Johhos

          2 years ago

          Woods Rider hit the nail on the head. Not the sexy name Phillies fans want. BUT, you can’t always get what you want…but if you try sometimes, you get what you need – Mick Jagger.
          I don’t need him to be Carlton or Cliff Lee….if he eats innings and keeps the Phillies in games and outta the bullpen before the end of the 4th, that’s great.
          Jamie Moyer won a WS in his 40’s without a 90 mph fastball.
          This is basically a free audition for 2020…Bossart is not going to be missed.

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  50. Coach Him

    2 years ago

    WTF kind of move is this for either side? Just release both guys now. Klentek is a joke! You can have a worse GM than these 2 teams have.

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    • ForestCobraAL

      2 years ago

      ROFLOL!

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  51. bobtillman

    2 years ago

    So it boils down to, with the 2M for the buyout of 2020, to about 3M and a non-prospect for Vargas….kinda “meh”, there’s worse pitchers out there than Vargas…..of course there’s a whole lot more better ones too……

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  52. ForestCobraAL

    2 years ago

    They left out some details. The Phillies sent the Mets some of their old desktop PC’s with Pentium III processors in exchange for an old pair of Mr. Met’s sneakers.

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  53. Halos2021WSChamps

    2 years ago

    Saw him as a great fit for the angels… can prevent runs, eat innings, and with the Angels +++ defense could have been a real solid rotation peace for this year and next year . That’s all it took to get him? Smh

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  54. theoepsteinhof

    2 years ago

    Wow, I guess Gabe Kapler figures he needed a bodyguard!

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  55. SoCalStuntman

    2 years ago

    The Mets are a mess!

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  56. lefty58

    2 years ago

    Are the Phillies trying to become the most unlikable team in baseball on purpose?

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  57. Jacked225

    2 years ago

    As a Braves fan, I approve this trade for the Phillies. We’ve lit this guy up against the Mets.

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  58. ericm25

    2 years ago

    stupid trade. why is phillies GM making dumb trades with the frickin mess I mean muts, I mean mets. didn’t be learned last yr. that trading for their players turns sour for us. duh. we got bums last yr and now we got another bum who will probably has health issues in his 3rd start with the phillies.

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  59. GarryHarris

    2 years ago

    What do the Mets see in Austin Bossart? He’s a backup catcher and moving slow through MiLB. The Phillies have a good catching prospect, Deivy Grullon.

    Even though this seems like a give away, I would think the Mets could’ve gotten more elsewhere.

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  60. jkoko

    2 years ago

    Mets get Stoman, Phillies get a washed up lefty. Phillies front office should be fired

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      2 years ago

      Mets gave up two solid prospects for Stroman. Phillies got Vargas for virtually nothing. Also Vargas fits right into the rotation. This is a good move. Vargas is not a sexy pitcher like Stromam, but he’s decent and a major upgrade over what the Phillies have been using.

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      • JoeBrady

        2 years ago

        jkoko should be banned for such a stupid comment. It’s like comparing the RS acquisition of Sale with their acquisition of Cashner. Two things so different they cannot be compared.

        Philly basically gave up nothing but cash for a #5, on a rotation that lacks any consistency past Nola. And did so without compromising their future whatsoever.

        Value-wise, the NYMs did okay, but I have no idea what their l/t plans are for Stroman.

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        • rgreen

          2 years ago

          You’re right that despite the deals being connected,they’re not really comparable.

          Stromans a major acquisition,and Vargas is basically a waiver pick up.And that’s why I agree with Koko,he’s basically the Phillies 1st free agent signing for this offseason.2m buyout on a 8m salary,so he’ll pretty much have to completely bomb out to be bought out.

          You like this deal if you believe in Vargas.Im with Koko,because i don’t.I laughed when the Mets signed him,and now they’ve successfully dumped him onto the Phillies.If it was just for the rest of the year,it wouldn’t really matter.But knowing the Phillies,he’ll be our 3 or 4 next year,and I’m not that thrilled about that.

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  61. goldenmisfit

    2 years ago

    Did the Mets seriously just traded one of their starting pitchers to a division rival? LMMFAO!

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  62. chemistrynut

    2 years ago

    I’m thinking this is a Wilpon trade, pure and simple…After that clubhouse incident a few weeks back with Vargas threatening a reporter, that sealed his fate with the Mets and ownership, who were reportedly livid that he did not apologize for the incident afterwords. They were going to peddle him for anything breathing (or not breathing) at the deadline. The fact that they’re taking some of the salary too tells me they were desperate to unload him and took the first deal available,
    Callaway, who was also front and center during that clubhouse altercation will be gone after the season, mostly because of his record but no small part also because of his role in that fiasco.

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  63. bummy

    2 years ago

    Vargas has rebounded very nicely this year; Phillies did well by obtaining him for nothing; guy has been 2nd best pitcher this year after degrom, now im not a big fan of his; but is a nice depth piece for phils

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  64. king beas

    2 years ago

    It’s been past three strikes on Brodie why isn’t he out?

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  65. phillyballers

    2 years ago

    So we can shutdown Jake now right? Vargas can step right in and be a Richard in post-game media interviews.

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  66. stroh

    2 years ago

    How exciting. Maybe the Phillies can bring Bartolo out of retirement. Between Vargas and Bartolo, their combined fastball could maybe fool someone.

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  67. Questionable_Source

    2 years ago

    This move fits the Phillies model. He was good in 2014. Their quest to build that 2014 all-star team continues.

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    • JoeBrady

      2 years ago

      His ERA+ in 2014 was 106. His ERA+ in 2019 is 103. Yup, that’s waaay different.

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