The Phillies are showing some interest in Reds righty Tanner Roark, according to Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link). It sounds as if a few other organizations are also looking into the veteran starter, whose trade availability is not really clear.
It wasn’t long ago that the Reds were putting out word that they intended to function as a buyer at the trade deadline. But the club’s position is increasingly grim, with eight games and three teams separating it from the NL Central lead.
If the Cincinnati organization does decide to sell a few players, Roark would be one of the clear pieces to move. He’s among the pending free agents who’d be of interest to contenders. Other rental candidates include Alex Wood, David Hernandez, Jared Hughes, Yasiel Puig, Scooter Gennett, and Jose Iglesias.
As for the Phillies, we’ve continued to see them connected to most of the available arms. The club is obviously looking far and wide for possible arms to buttress its rotation and pen. While the preference remains to acquire with control, as Heyman notes and the front office has made clear, there’s surely also room for rental pieces at the right price.
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Roark has been as solid as the Reds could have hoped for when they acquired him from the Nationals over the winter. He’s through 107 innings of 3.95 ERA pitching over twenty starts, with 8.9 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9. In terms of peripherals and pitch quality, it has been much of the same sturdy work that Roark has provided over the past several campaigns. He’s hardly an ace, but is about as dependable as any back-of-the-rotation starter and would surely represent a nice upgrade for the right contender.
He would be a nice pick up for the Phillies and sadly be their #2 starter unless they get someone to compliment Nola. Be nice to slide Roark in the 3 slot
How many right handers does this team want? Should have pushed harder for JA Happ or Corbin or Keuchel.
Indians have been doing pretty well for years going with an all-righties starting rotation. But yeah, it’d be nice to have a southpaw in the rotation.
Happ has not been all that good.
Drew Smyly! Haha
i was hoping they would. Roark and Greinke are two guys to get, even if both have their hurdles.
As a lifetime Reds fan, they need to retain Roark, Puig, Wood and Iglesias and resign then! They will have the core of the team back for next year! Tired of then always rebuilding! I feel the problem rest with the front off as They need to get read of the Williams brothers including Dick and also the generations of the Bells! David Bell has a shorter hook with SP than Sparky Anderson did! Time to trade Rasiel Iglesias!
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That core isn’t going to get you anywhere so why retain them? Iglesias is the only one of those names that is a top player; if your core is made up of mediocre players, you stay mediocre.
Iglesias (we are referring to Jose) is a below average hitter that plays great defense. Not a top player.
Additionally, Wood (when healthy) is among the best pitchers in the game, and Puig, though inconsistent, is also a top outfielder
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I was referring to R Iglesias as a top player.
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Additionally, Wood has made a total of zero starts this year and could be half the pitcher he was following his injury, you won’t know what you have until he pitches. If your core is built around what ifs and maybes, again, not a recipe for success.
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Additionally additionally, Puig is a slightly above average player in a position flooded with talent. He by no means a top outfielder.
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Additionally additionally additionally…that’s the last time I’m going to say additionally.
No he is not , he is playing in small stadium, he sucked in la
Jury is in. Puig is not a winner.
We need to keep Roark, Puig, Gennett, Iglesias & Huges, every year we gripe about Pitching and we finally have a decent group to build from and while it’s a down year offensively, Our Pitching has been an up year, Time to get rid of Turner Ward, I have seen No progression with having him here.
Lol at this statement
HUGHES?! He hasn’t been worth a crap all year! If they can’t trade him he should be a DFA candidate…
Well said sir!
Iglesias makes the most sense to lick up for a few years and I’d try to sign Puig but if they won’t sign now you gotta deal em
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Your thinking was what led them to not trade Cozart and Harvey. How’d that work out for them?
Use your M’s instead of N’s.
I’d roll with Lorenzen, Garrett and Romano/Stephenson and get rid of R. Iglesias. He’s extremely inconsistent. If Derek Johnson can’t improve him I don’t think he’s willing to get better.
As I lifelong Reds fan, please trade Roark, Jose Iglesias, Rasiel Iglesias, Scooter (if we can get anything more than a sack of baseballs), and Dietrich. The Reds have failed to trade players at their peak value in past years only to see them walk for nothing (looking at Cozart and Harvey). Roark will most likely regress next year and the Reds cannot afford to sink cost into a player with little chance of ROI. J Iglesias and Dietrich fall into this category as well. With Wood coming back, Peraza playing better, and Ervin looking like a first round pick, out with one year contracts and let the kids play!
Is Scooter just still not recovered and up to baseball speed or is he reverting back to bad? I don’t see many reds games but his line looks terrible, will someone take a chance on him?
Scooter is still recovering. Given much of the power used to swing is generated in the hips and upper legs, any type of groin injury will have an impact. However, he never had a decent glove anywhere on the field (.981 fielding % ly with poor range and a weak arm). All that points to the fact he should have been traded in 17 or 18. He is going to walk after the season and the Reds will get nothing. Poor asset management right there.
Poor asset management ? How could they have known he was going to get hurt ?
He will bounce back and they will have a chance to sign him for less now.
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Poor asset management is the Reds’ MO
Poor management last year and the year before. The Reds should not, and according to Tim D, will not sign him. They have not even had talks. He would be blocking some of the top prospects plus Senzel (although he is more valuable in center) in the Reds system. Scooter would be a great asset for an AL team and he will end up signing with one of them.
Getting hurt this year was bad luck and unfortunately makes last year’s poor decision to ride the win streak after the AS Break all the worse.
Keep Jose Iglesias. He’s a career .271 hitter so you can count on at least some production, unlike the wildly inconsistent Peraza. We should keep Roark as well. Even if he regresses, his stats are still better than the revolving door of young pitchers we’ve been trying the last 3 or 4 years., including Mahle. Roark isn’t sexy, but he’s the kind of veteran that solidifies the back end of the rotation.
If you want to keep Roark, sign him in the winter as a FA, which they will have to do anyway. No reason not to trade him now, unless he agrees to a team-friendly extension (which he just might given how the market is treating aging FAs right now).
Jose does provide value with the glove, but his .694 OPS scares me too much for a long term contract.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Why is that? Keeping these expiring contracts has led the Reds to the 20th ranked farm system and 9 games under at the MLB level. As hard as it is for me to take off my big red glasses, they are dangerously close to failing in the rebuild and having to go back through another 5 years of garage.
Roark is about as solid as they come. Decent stuff, knows how to pitch, and competes at the highest level. If he goes, somebody is getting a bargain.
I’d have to agree. As a Phillies fan I’ve seen him pitch quite a bit. He won’t light up the radar gun and nothing about him is particularly sexy. However, you can count on getting 6IP of 3ER ball every 5th day. If you’re the Phillies right now outside of Nola you will take that all day long.
I just wonder what the Reds are asking for in exchange? He’ll be a FA so he is a 2 month rental. I’m guessing a low level prospect and cash perhaps?
I thought the Reds strategy of bringing in rentals, at such a high volume, was flawed to begin with. It, imo, rested squarely on hope for many of them to have really good seasons and, depending on how the season played out, have them to parlay into the future with prospects in trades. I’m not sure any of them would bring back a lot in that area. Perhaps Puig can, but he’s such a mercurial type that he may make many teams hesitate in giving much up.
Agree on Puig. But Roark, Wood, and Gennett would probably each get a pretty good prospect. Wood has to look good in his next outing. Gennett might fit best in the AL.
There’s no way i’d give up anything for Wood. His “next start” will be his first and only start before the deadline. Any GM/POBO willing to bite on that 1 outing, good or bad, needs to be fired.
Roark is a 4/5 innings eater, at best. Gennett, despite his last 2 season’s numbers, is a wild card.
@batty, lol so scooters numbers make him a wildcard or has he finally arrived? Smh his numbers are pretty damn good and will probably be the standard for him going forward.
His average at best glove, weak arm, and poor range make him a liability on the field. His calling card is his bat and now that is questionable for at least the rest of this season as he tries to come back from the groin injury.
I would say that is the definition of a wild card.
He has just recently returned from major injury. He can’t really be counted on to deliver similar type numbers, pro-rated for the rest of this season, as he has the last 2.
Yes, a wild card.
20 starts and 107 innings .. 5 1/3 innings average… is that better than what we have ? What happened to guys who could get through the 6th and later?
I am all for solid pitching and innings eaters , but…..
Sadly it is better than what the Phillies have. Eflin is on a steady decline. Velazquez is anyone’s guess, and Pivetta rightfully doesn’t start any more.
Even though Pivetta doesn’t start, if he can come out of the bullpen like has has thus far, I’ll take that all day.
Agreed. Pen has been solid recently albeit against weaker teams.
It seems the standard now is just enough to be the Pitcher of Record. Anymore, it’s like going 6 innings makes you a workhorse.
Gone are the days of going to a game to watch two great starters square off and go 7 innings or more.
Good starters went 7; great starters went 8!
I can’t find the number, but he gets shelled the 3rd through a lineup. Hence, Bell pulls him after 5-6 innings.
Why not? Get it done.
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philles were scouting tigers players hard then the tigs came to town and they put live eyeballs on the players.imo I still think the Phil’s and Tigs match up good maybe make a package deal say a green and castellanos package.i don’t know the Philly’s farm system but I’m pretty sure there is a good mix of bats that the Tigers could use.im darn tired of seeing them draft catchers and pitchers in the early rounds EVERY YEAR/! finally got maybe a good impact bat with Riley green (hopefully).but they need at least 2-3 more propects they get to develop into a really solid player.
I thought they were buyers lol
The Reds should be buyers. Their 1-4 SP are already better than anyone’s in the division. With an pretty good run differential already, they could use a left fielder but for sure bullpen help. I still see them in play for Thor no matter what happens with Roark. If Wood comes back healthy with or without Thor it’s still a really good starting 5. BULLPEN BULLPEN BULLPEN then maybe LF, SP, MIF and bench C. They have a good mix of veterans and young guys to pull out the division . look back at the cubs a few years back, I believe they was something like 8.5 games back at the deadline and ended up winning the division. Take a shot and be buyers!!
Reds should keep Roark. At least get the draft pick for the QO if he walks.
Perhaps, the Reds are have a staggering -8 Pythagorean rating. Plus they don’t play much in the division going forward, which could be a plus or minus depending how one views their chances. As a Cards’ fan I sure as hell would rather face teams other than named Cincinnati or Pittsburgh. Tough to score against the Reds, with a decent lineup, and the Pirates with a killer offense.
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No way Roark declines a QO
Roark takes a QO straight to the bank.
Only reds fans in this section complain about Roark. Everybody else realizes he’s better than most pitchers the reds have had in recent memory and is pretty solid. Reds fans are awful.
Who is complaining? I like the guy and I love his quick-pitch style. But, Baseball has changed into a game of getting younger players on cheap contracts. Tanner is neither of those. However, he can be a good pathway to finding a player that meets those requirements.
The Reds don’t have the assets to give 4 years/60 million to a soon to be 33 yr old player.
We’ve done the “getting younger…on cheaper contracts” thing the last 4 years. That hasn’t worked. And yes we do have the assets to give that contract, but it’s not going to take that. A 3 years/30 mil like Sonny Gray got is what Roark’s worth.
Part of getting younger is giving players time to play and learn. I would rather lose 100 games with 22-26 year olds than win 81 with 32 year olds.
The Reds never fully committed to getting young. Signings and trades for Hughes and Harvey are not what a young team should do. For a good example, see the Houston Astros.
I think you should become a Marlins fan then. They’re always getting younger and almost always losing at the clip you enjoy. Reds fans actually want our club to get better.
Depends….what kind of Tanner’s do the Phillies have available to trade?
They don’t have enough of anything thanks to our man Johnny Almaraz.
Why bother . If you’re not going to add a starter, OR TWO, that are decent pitchers, dont waste the time. Roark isnt very good
Common sense says it all depends on the return..The Reds have been known to ask for crazy high prices for guys they don’t ‘realllly’ want to get rid of..I guess all it takes is somebody to get desperate due to injuries or something like that..other than Puig, I wouldn’t be too upset to see anyone on this list go..for the right price..I love Puig on this team..his energy just fits imo..
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“The Reds have been known to ask for crazy high prices for guys they don’t ‘realllly’ want to get rid of.”
Yeah. And then lose then for nothing in FA.
Hernandez + mid-range prospect for Greinke & 10M
Maikel Franco + Spencer Howard + Any other mid-range position player prospect for Bauer (Moniak?)