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Angels Notes: Boras, Moreno, Trades, First Base

By Mark Polishuk | November 14, 2019 at 3:28pm CDT

The latest on the Angels, who could be one of baseball’s busiest teams this winter…

  • There have long been rumors of animosity between Angels owner Arte Moreno and agent Scott Boras, stemming from the Angels’ fruitless pursuit of Mark Teixeira (a Boras client) in the 2008-09 offseason.  Any hard feelings seem to have either been exaggerated or a thing of the past, however, as Boras told the Los Angeles Times’ Maria Torres and other reporters that he had recently had lunch with Moreno, and has kept up a good working relationship with the owner.  “I sit down with the guy every year. I see him all the time. We have a common restaurant that we run into one another. So I wouldn’t read much into it,” Boras said.  With the Halos in need of pitching, keeping up relations with the agent would seemingly be a necessary step this winter, as such top arms as Gerrit Cole, Stephen Strasburg, Hyun-Jin Ryu, and Dallas Keuchel (not to mention position players like Anthony Rendon, Nicholas Castellanos, and Mike Moustakas) are all Boras Corporation clients.
  • Rather than free agents, Angels GM Billy Eppler also indicated that his team could be active on the trade front, noting the several young and controllable players both on the big league roster and in the upper levels of the farm system.  “We have probably the most valuable type of players you can trade,” Eppler told reporters, including the Orange County Register’s Jeff Fletcher.  “They are 0-to-3 (service time) players that we’ve stripped out a lot of the risk because they are pretty much there.…I think we can match up in deals, just about any deal.  If clubs are willing to engage, we can engage.”  As Fletcher notes, the odds of the team trading top prospect Jo Adell seems very unlikely, though players like Griffin Canning, Patrick Sandoval, Jose Suarez, Jaime Barria, Dillon Peters and Felix Pena, David Fletcher, Luis Rengifo, Taylor Ward, Matt Thaiss, or Jared Walsh could all be potential trade chips.
  • Of course, several of those same names could play important roles for Los Angeles in 2020.  For instance, since Albert Pujols will see more DH time on days that Shohei Ohtani is pitching, Eppler said Walsh or Thaiss could help fill the void at first base.  The rookie duo “had some pretty good moments and showed that they were taking that first step and competing…I’d like to see how those guys respond to more at-bats and see how they go from there,” Eppler said.  Thaiss, the 16th overall pick of the 2016 draft, has the higher pedigree of the two and also has spent a lot of time at third base, while Walsh has crushed minor league pitching over his five pro seasons.  Both are left-handed hitters, making either solid fits to partner with the right-handed hitting Pujols.  Of course, it could certainly be argued that the Angels should seek out a more established first baseman given how Thaiss and Walsh both lack experience, and Pujols is no longer a consistent offensive threat.
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59 Comments

  1. DarkSide830

    6 years ago

    well it’s official – Cole is/isnt going to LAA.

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    • angelsandcards

      6 years ago

      Now here’s a hot take.

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    • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

      6 years ago

      He was never gonna go to the Dodgers. Anaheim was the omly California team that was a possibilty

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  2. andrewgauldin

    6 years ago

    The only position outside of pitching I’d like to see the angels pursue is catching. Adding another first basemen doesn’t seem to make much sense. Thaiss, Walsh and Pujols. But also La Stella and potentially Cozart. Lots of versatile infielders on this team. Makes more sense to sign a 4th outfielder along with either Grandal, d’Arnaud, or Chirinos.

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    • angelsandcards

      6 years ago

      Jason Castro makes sense as well.

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    • bkbk

      6 years ago

      Trade for Hedges

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    • PopeMarley

      6 years ago

      You can have Gary Sanchez for Adell.

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      • angelsandcards

        6 years ago

        Hard pass

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        • PopeMarley

          6 years ago

          Do you actually believe Adell is worth more? I really can’t take you seriously with that username.

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        • Vizionaire

          6 years ago

          troll!

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Hard no on that trade. That was dumber than any Grichuk trade I’ve ever typed. That’s saying a lot.

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      • Ohtani-san

        6 years ago

        The hardest of passes and how dare you.

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    • MrNewYork24

      6 years ago

      There is an under the radar catcher who I think could be available, young and pretty good, Luis Torrens, I think he can be had on the cheap. Maybe he isn’t the quick fix but could be a catcher of the future for several years

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    • Mr.MikeyPants

      6 years ago

      Those catchers suck, or are to expensive… Maldo is a way better option, he lines up and catches Cole well, and he was Otani’s first and bestest friend until let go, plus he’s shown to handle the stick better as hes has aged. all that aside, no position players except this backstop, and get as much pitching as we can get.

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    • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

      6 years ago

      Anaheim really needs someone at 3rd. They havent had a decent 3B since Glaus and maybe Speizio

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      • Thurman8er

        6 years ago

        What does everyone have against David Fletcher? You can’t have an All-Star at every position, and Fletch has a good bat AND a good glove.

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        • prov356

          6 years ago

          I believe Fletch is a future all-star and hopefully a long term Angel.

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      • prov356

        6 years ago

        Wrek305: What was wrong with LaStella’s defense? He posted .980 fielding last year at third. Fletcher posted .974 at third.

        Glaus has a career .952 fielding at third over 13 seasons. Spiezio was worse with .945 fielding at third over 11 seasons.

        Wrek – Please do some research before posting stuff.

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      • hossmandu

        6 years ago

        Hilarious. Speizio? Really???? He was an awesome Angel 3rd baseman. 4 years. 85 games at 3b. .249avg, .735OPS 8hr and 46RBI. I’ll take Fletcher/LaStella over that every single day.

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      • Evan Siggson

        6 years ago

        Um figgins was amazing

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      • ryanw-2

        6 years ago

        You need to pay more attention.

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    • Shamanshawn

      6 years ago

      They have a good catcher named Taylor Ward.time to re- convert now that he can hit.

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  3. baseballfan1000

    6 years ago

    why would the angels trade Adell after turning down Colt Calhouns option?

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    • andrewgauldin

      6 years ago

      Did you read the article. It stated as the likelihood of him being traded is “very unlikely.”

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      • baseballfan1000

        6 years ago

        that’s my whole point. I’m saying that it’s unlikely so why would they even do that. Plus after turn down Calhoun’s option I’m saying it would make no sense basically

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    • prov356

      6 years ago

      Adell won’t be traded based on what I’ve read. BTW it’s “Kole” Calhoun, not Colt.

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      • baseballfan1000

        6 years ago

        yay. That’s what happens when I’m a horrible Taiper and have to use dictation.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          6 years ago

          Is Taiper a typist from Taipei?

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      • Ohtani-san

        6 years ago

        Yeah but colt sounds way cooler lol

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  4. HubcapDiamondStarHalo

    6 years ago

    With a roster like that, I bet Boras makes at LEAST a hundred dollars this offseason…

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    • loafrgoffr

      6 years ago

      No way! Definitely couldn’t pull in more than $75!

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  5. Mike's Trout

    6 years ago

    I would hate to see David Fletcher and Griffin Canning go. Keep the young core and sign pitching.

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  6. bkbk

    6 years ago

    I have a platoon idea.

    One of the Thaiss/Walsh combo plays first, while the other wrestles Pujols to the ground and handcuffs him to a radiator. I dont care which one does which. I hope Eppler reads these comments, its a joke that he is still getting meaningful playing time while the pitch that we are trying not waste Trout.

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  7. andrewgauldin

    6 years ago

    If the reds get Grandal, and the angels miss out on d’Arnaud and Chirinos. Barnhart to the Halos?

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  8. Thurman8er

    6 years ago

    I’ve always found the tales of the Moreno/Boras feud strange since I see Boras behind home plate at virtually every Angels game.

    In other news, it cracks me up how so many people have changed their minds about the Angels signing Cole. Based on, I guess, nothing.

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    • dirkg

      6 years ago

      Wait, I thought MLBTR commentors are in the rooms with the GMs and the player agents for first hand knowledge of each and every transaction… No??

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    • angels fan 3

      6 years ago

      He has a season seat box behind home plate. Moreno has not control over that

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  9. Philliesfan4life

    6 years ago

    I still think the angels do end up with Cole and somebody else

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  10. Mr.Ward14

    6 years ago

    Eppler needs to get creative.
    Yes, the rotation needs at least 3SP and Cole needs to be at the top of that list.
    But it’s imperative that Eppler and Moreno keep going instead of stopping at Cole, dumpster dive for remaining players and deluding themselves into thinking they have a contender. With this FA class, they need to go full throttle, NOW!

    Simmons/Heaney would be a realistic trade package for SP, it’ll also free up around 15mil. Maybe for Noah Syndergaard?

    Cole is a must
    Moustakas is a must
    And I think Eric Thames would be a nice signing for OF/1B depth.
    Julio Tehran would be nice too

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    • Philliesfan4life

      6 years ago

      I like the idea of Tehran , but not trading Simmons. Unless they make a move for Didi

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      • Mr.Ward14

        6 years ago

        I’d like that Didi move, at the right price. But you could put Fletcher at SS or Regnifo. Or maybe trade Simmons and Heaney to Chicago for Kris Bryant. There’s so many options, hopefully Eppler doesn’t crap the bed

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        • Philliesfan4life

          6 years ago

          Cubs will shoot that deal down so fast. Doesn’t simmons have 1 year left of control?

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    • dirkg

      6 years ago

      Ward, I think you’ll indeed see several moves from Billy esp considering this is *his* final year of his contract. He was on High Heat with Chris Russo and said the Halos have financial flexibility to sign big names, but also have MLB ready prospects to trade as well. I think he’ll do both.

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      • Philliesfan4life

        6 years ago

        Cole and Tehran or Wacha then add a bat.

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    • Alfred E Neuman

      6 years ago

      What are you smoking, Mr.Ward14? Read the news. The Mets aren’t trading Syndeegaard, especially for trash like that when they have a better SS in Amed Rosario.

      Reply
  11. Philliesfan4life

    6 years ago

    and Trout wins MVP , now Arte go out and spend the money on pitching for once. I really thought Bregman was going to get it

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  12. ChiSoxCity

    6 years ago

    Uh, the Angels aren’t the only team with money and looking to spend.

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    • Philliesfan4life

      6 years ago

      Angels need Cole the most imo, they haven’t had that ace for a long time, Arte has the money and the resources to do it.

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  13. jorge78

    6 years ago

    Walsh was a 39th round draft pick! And he made it to the show!

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  14. californiaangels

    6 years ago

    PLEASE dont trade Fletcher!PLEASE!just keep him and LaStella and put everything into pitching . our offense is at least average for sure , and if healthy will be a top 10

    trade: Thaiss, Walsh will never hit, ward will never hit, and get what ever you can

    I think Callaway can tinker with Suarez and get him back so i would hold him back

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    • andrewgauldin

      6 years ago

      Not going to get much for Walsh or Ward. Might as well hold on to them and hope they have a good season. Thaiss has some much needed versatility and should be the primary First basemen. I wouldn’t mess with the infield at all. Don’t trade or sign anybody. Catching and the Outfield is a different story

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    • Vizionaire

      6 years ago

      if mlb returns to normal balls angels are built very well to adapt. i would rather have an offense built with players hitting singles and doubles with high average and obp instead of hitters who hit home runs but strike out a lot. and fletcher will be a gold glover at 2b. don’t waste his time at 3b.

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  15. Evan Siggson

    6 years ago

    I could see Robbie Ray as a realistic target

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  16. loafrgoffr

    6 years ago

    If they could get Cole, Keuchel, and Grandal I think that’d be phenomenal.

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  17. Stat

    6 years ago

    Think it’s safe to say Canning won’t be one being traded from that list of trade chips. Angels can’t afford to lose any rotation depth

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  18. jehendri

    6 years ago

    I believe the “trade” referenced is for Wilson Contreras. Need a catcher, Cubs already saying he is available, Maddon, seems inevitable.

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  19. urnuts

    6 years ago

    The Angels need to be creative with the payroll.

    After Next season Cozart’s contact will be off the books and the following year Pujols. Maybe load a couple of deals on the back end. Go after 2 of the top 4 starters and 1 mid level starter. Sign Moustakas and Puig to two year 15 million deals.

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  20. Raiderplayer

    6 years ago

    Angel fans, dont get yourself worked up on the Angels. They not trading for anyone.. they are just a 500 team. Go Yanks

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  21. Perksy

    6 years ago

    Angels are like the Mets west. They play second fiddle and do everything wrong.

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