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How Good Was Dante Bichette?

By TC Zencka | April 11, 2020 at 10:01am CDT

Before he became the third-most-famous dad of a Toronto Blue Jays starting infielder, Dante Bichette held a similar title in a different barbershop quartet: the Blake Street Bombers. In both groups, Bichette fits comfortably in the George Harrison role as the love-able third cog, the character actor capable of carrying a film (say, as the 3-hole hitter), but nonetheless of tertiary relevance after two obviously-more-famous counterparts (Craig Biggio and Vlad Guerrero, Paul and John, Larry Walker and Andres Galarraga). Along with Vinny Castilla (who rightly-or-wrongly has fallen into the Ringo role in the Blake Street Bombers), Bichette helped the Rockies to their first playoff appearance in franchise history (1995) and became an indelible part of Colorado baseball history.

Bichette wasn’t destined for stardom, necessarily. He capitalized with a case of perfect time, perfect place (emphasis on place, as Coors Field in ’95 wasn’t a bad place to take your home hacks). 1995 wasn’t Bichette’s first season as a productive regular, nor was it his best by WAR, but it was his loudest: .340/.364/.620 while leading the league with 40 home runs and 128 RBIs.

It was a feel-good story for both Bichette and the Rockies, the former of whom had found belated stardom at the age of 31, and for the latter, as the organization enjoyed its first taste of success as an MLB franchise. Don Baylor’s club didn’t set the world aflame, but they did scratch out a 77-67 record, good enough to capture the newly instituted Wild Card slot to make the National League playoffs. The Rockies would fall to the Braves in four games and fail to reach the playoffs for a second time in the era of the Blake Street Bombers, however. They would not return to the playoffs until capturing the Wild Card in 2007, long after Bichette’s departure following the 1999 season.

As for Bichette, 1995 wasn’t all that anomalous. He would make the All-Star team and earn MVP votes in four out of five seasons from 1994 to 1999 (including a second-place finish in ’95). Over that five-year stretch, Bichette had an overall slash line of .320/.352/.542 while slugging 146 of his 274 career home runs. All of the above considering, and Bichette looks like a classic short-peak superstar, maybe even worthy of consideration for the colloquial hall-of-very-good.

But the story changes when you get a look at his Wins Above Replacement totals. For his career, Bichette amassed a surprisingly meager total of just 5.7 bWAR across 14 seasons. There were 18 position players with at least 5.7 bWAR in 2019 alone. By measure of fWAR, Bichette was slightly better, putting up a total 8.9 fWAR. In other words, he wasn’t very good?  Frankly, it’s difficult to view Bichette’s WAR totals in context. His era brings no measure of complications, but we’d normally worry about that era from an inflation standpoint. Looking at his fellow Bombers, Castilla managed 19.4 bWAR, which matches more closely to his standing in the baseball zeitgeist. Galarraga’s numbers are lower than what one might expect for the Big Cat (31.7 bWAR), but they still point to a solid career. Larry Walker was the best of the Colorado bunch, putting up a Hall-worthy 72.7 bWAR, for which he was finally inducted into the Hall of Fame this year.

Of course, nobody was looking at Wins Above Replacement when Bichette was a player. Given his offensive output, it’s still not surprising he made four All-Star teams. His career WAR numbers actually undersell his peak abilities as a player, largely because his overall numbers were hampered by three seasons of negative bWAR, including a disastrous -2.3 bWAR/-2.1 fWAR campaign in his final season with the Rockies in 1999. Bichette’s offensive output was down that season, but it still wasn’t bad: .298/.354/.541 with 34 home runs and 133 RBIs. That hardly looks like a -2.3 WAR season – and yet – it was (the MLB average slash line that season was .267/.338/.417).

Needless to say, Bichette was not a standout defender or baserunner. He was clocked for -34 runs from fielding that season along with -5 runs from baserunning per baseball-reference. He somehow made 13 errors as a left fielder that year (while also collecting 17 outfield assists). The last time an outfielder committed double-digit error totals was Ian Desmond in 2016 with the Rangers, his first season in the outfield as a converted shortstop. It’s not so surprising, then, that Bichette’s offensive numbers don’t buoy the other parts of his game to better bloat those WAR totals. Had Bichette played in the American League where he could have been utilized as a designated hitter, perhaps his career numbers would have a slightly different shape than they do now. Of course, the same could be said for if he’s played his peak seasons for a different franchise.

Regardless, Bichette found a time and a place to make an impact on the game. Plus, his contribution continues in the form of his son, Bo Bichette, who put up 2.3 bWAR as a 21-year-old for the Blue Jays last year. Bo looks astoundingly like his father even down to the haircut, but he brings a more well-rounded game to Toronto’s infield. At this rate, Bo will eclipse his dad’s bWAR total before the midpoint of his age-23 season.

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  1. dynamite drop in monty

    5 years ago

    One of the all time great oafs.

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  2. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    rightful 95 MVP

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    • Eatdust666

      5 years ago

      Yeah, he should’ve, but there were several other guys that were more deserving than Barry Larkin, even though he himself had a very good season and they include, Greg Maddux, Mike Piazza, Eric Karros, Reggie Sanders, Barry Bonds, Ron Gant, Craig Biggio, Vinny Castilla and Mark Grace, but that might not be it, though.

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      • Manfredsajoke

        5 years ago

        Pitchers should never be MVP. They have their own award Cy Young.

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        • lyle

          5 years ago

          So do hitters, it’s called the Hank Aaron Award.

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        • ryanw-2

          5 years ago

          The Cy Young Award is a position specific award. The value a top starting pitcher brings is equal to top position players. One way of looking at it is an MVP will likely have around 650 plate appearances or more. A top SP could face over 1,000 betters in one season.

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        • its_happening

          5 years ago

          When a pitcher dominates in a season they should be considered for the MVP. Every person on a roster is considered a “player”, thus every player should be considered for the award.

          1995 Greg Maddux was the most dominant player in the National League and his run support wasn’t exactly stellar. He was amazing and should have been the unanimous MVP. His season stacks up with other pitchers who’ve won the award.

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      • Brewers39

        5 years ago

        No way. He shouldn’t have even been second. He hit 31 of his 40 HR’s at home! Everyone who followed baseball back then knew that none of their hitters were really as good as their overall numbers looked. Look at any Rockies players’ home/road splits back then. In 1996, Galarraga had 32 HR and 103 RBI’s….at home! Eric Young hit .412 at home in 1996 but only .219 on the road.
        In 1999, Walker batted .461 at home, but only .286 on the road. The only reason that Walker won an MVP with Colorado is because his road numbers that year were on par with his home numbers. (29 of his 49 HR’s were away.)

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      • horrorluvr

        5 years ago

        How does a guy with those offensive numbers have a 1.2 WAR? That’s insane. Yes I realize defense is taken into account.

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    • Colorado Red

      5 years ago

      Nope, Berry had a better season.
      Dante was terrible in the outfield.

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    • its_happening

      5 years ago

      The 1995 MVP should have been Greg Maddux. You don’t give it to a Colorado Rockies hitter with 31 bombs at home and 9 on the road. The stat difference is massive. Giving him the MVP would have been a travesty.

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  3. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    5 years ago

    Speaking of George Harrison…

    Isn’t it time to admit that While My Guitar Gently Weeps was really the only good Beatles song?

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    • rct

      5 years ago

      Not a Beatles fan, but I especially dislike that one. Here Comes The Sun is a much better Harrison song, imo.

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      • parx

        5 years ago

        Beatles are like ronda rousey, nowhere near the best, just the first…there isn’t a song by that band that isn’t wildly overrated

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        • KingTiger

          5 years ago

          Clueless millennials…

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        • dimitrios in la

          5 years ago

          Most overrated band of all time—not even close—but also the most influential.

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        • rememberthecoop

          5 years ago

          Look at how they transformed so much over a 5 year period. From simple, 2 1/2 minute pop songs (great.r as they were) to crazy experimental music using sitars and backwards stuff. I mean, they changed so much and that, to me, what was the most impressive thing about the Beatles. You must not be a musician, because even millennial musicians I know respect the hell out of the Beatles.

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        • dynamite drop in monty

          5 years ago

          Millennials are almost 40 years old now you know.

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        • retire21

          5 years ago

          When it comes to music, you like what you like. I get it. There are no wrong opinions. Oh , except for one. The Beatles being overrated is that one.

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        • Manfredsajoke

          5 years ago

          Most people actually have the most issues with Generation Z which is considered birth years 1995-2010. There are a few decent ones but most have been brainwashed in public schools and colleges including all 3 of my kids…

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        • rct

          5 years ago

          @kingtiger: I’m nearly 40. I heard the Beatles ad nauseum growing up (my mother is/was a superfan). I’m technically a millennial, but I’m certainly not clueless. Just not a Beatles fan.

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        • TrueOutcomeFan

          5 years ago

          There isn’t a song your prepubescent ears have heard that doesn’t have a direct line to something the Beatles did. Yes, they were the first. They were also the first to perfect it.

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        • Peart of the game

          5 years ago

          Most Gen Z idiots I know like Justin Bieber and trap music. I prefer progressive metal music which actually requires talent to make.

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        • Arnold Ziffel

          5 years ago

          As an older person, I can say the Beatles were very over rated, the Moody Blues and others were much better musicians. Rubber Soul was where they peaked out. Much of their later music was a bunch of drug aided things that a lot of times made no sense.

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      • dugmet

        5 years ago

        the heck is wrong with you?

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      • Manbitesdog

        5 years ago

        Prince didn’t do the solo till long after George’s death.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      No.

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    • TrueOutcomeFan

      5 years ago

      That’s nonsense, but we should all be able to agree that George was the best Beatle.

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    • Ricky Adams

      5 years ago

      Beatles very well maybe overrated, but they’re still one of the greatest of alltime. Overrated in that they arent greatest of alltime, but one of greatest based off being 1 of first and their influence. But stones, zeppelin, eagles, skynyrd, steve miller are better.

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    • mafiabass

      5 years ago

      No, because the guitar solo was performed by Eric Clapton

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  4. Erik

    5 years ago

    I loved that 95’ run they had. Loved Bichette in that Rockies team. One of my favorite power hitters of the 90s

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      He sure was a hitter. Of teenage girls.

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  5. pmollan

    5 years ago

    Juicer, who benefitted from the thin CO air. Also hit his 19 y/o pregnant gf.

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  6. g4

    5 years ago

    Hard to fathom defense and baserunning accounting for a ~70 difference in WAR (Walker v Bichette). Something’s rotten in Denmark.

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    • DrDude

      5 years ago

      ’95 was definetly calculated wrong. How would one correct? I have been musing his Stat line for that year. He does not qualify as a Starter(per BR) yet had a monster year.

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  7. baseball99

    5 years ago

    Dante Bichette has 201 HRs as a Rockie, 274 for career

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  8. RunDMC

    5 years ago

    Would love to see an article of who would you take: the dads vs. the sons. Career numbers vs. comps.

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    • jdgoat

      5 years ago

      I love the young guys and all could be stars, but I think you have to go with the group that has two hall of famers aha

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  9. Longboarder

    5 years ago

    Meh. Another Angels also ran. I could hit 40 homers with steroids and at a mile high. Wasted article.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      No you couldn’t.

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    • Ry.the.Stunner

      5 years ago

      If we’re speaking realistically, I’d be surprised if you could even hit one in an actual game scenario. So no, you really couldn’t hit 40.

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    • Ironman_4life

      5 years ago

      I have not played since high school which was 1995 and i would strike you out.

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    • lannibal2000

      5 years ago

      Naive much?

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  10. cgallant

    5 years ago

    Good enough to get benched by Jimy Williams.

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  11. carlos15

    5 years ago

    How bad can a steroid era offensive player playing in Colorado be?

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  12. thorshair

    5 years ago

    Overrated as can be just like Larry Walker, Todd Helton and Ellis Burks, The thin Air boosted all their numbers

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    • Maurice Lock

      5 years ago

      You couldn’t be more wrong about Walker. So wrong. 5 tool player. Look at his numbers outside Colorado. He still carried an .865 OPS on the road, could steal bases, and throw your azz out at any base.

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      • Maurice Lock

        5 years ago

        Why?

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      Lol imagine still being this deluded

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      • jdgoat

        5 years ago

        I mean it did boost their numbers, but they’d be stars anywhere.

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      • thorshair

        5 years ago

        Larry Walker was an average player in Montreal and then all of a sudden he’s 40 home run guy? Give me a break same goes for Ellis Burks, and look at Heltons numbers before and after the used the humidifiers thing on the baseballs, but yeah I’m deluded wake up guy

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        • jdgoat

          5 years ago

          Larry Walker was not an average player in Montreal lol

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        • Maurice Lock

          5 years ago

          Walker was 28% over league average hitter in Montreal. It was a big park. If Larry Walker was playing in his prime today, he would be the best RF in the game.

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        • ellisburks

          5 years ago

          Have you seen Burks’ numbers in SF or Cleveland? He was well above average player wherever he went. 115 in Bos, 151 in Sf, 133 Cle and 114 in Chi. So yeah, not a product of Colorado.

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        • Doral Silverthorn

          5 years ago

          No, because in your if/then statement, I’ve added my own players who are playing in their prime and Hank Aaron is also playing and is the best Right Fielder in the game. I’ve also moved Mike Trout to RF so Walker would at best be third. Maybe fourth behind Gwynn.

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    • snake120

      5 years ago

      Speaking of thin air

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    • rememberthecoop

      5 years ago

      So true. Just like Arenado now. Look at his home/road splits over the past 3 years. He’s an above average hitter outside of Coors, but not by much. And you don’t pay 32M for that.

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    • DarkSide830

      5 years ago

      Ellis Burks deserves more credit then he got

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    • Jim in NC

      5 years ago

      Todd Helton was a great hitter and certainly Hall of Fame worthy. Why do we degrade guys who played their home games at Coors, but not guys whose home field was Yankee Stadium or the Polo Grounds?

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  13. bucketbrew35

    5 years ago

    Some truly negative dickheads in the comments section today.

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    • Badfinger

      5 years ago

      Just today?

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  14. n888

    5 years ago

    I hope you got paid 3x the usual rate for this fun piece of writing

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  15. Metsfan9

    5 years ago

    Member of the hall of very good

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  16. hiflew

    5 years ago

    Dante Bichette was truly my favorite player of all time. I still have his autographed bat hanging on my wall next to a framed autographed “Bichette Happens” t-shirt. My dog is named Dante after him. He was a fantastic player, but his skill set was not rewarded by the formula used to calculate WAR. Walks were not a big part of his game and WAR kills you for that. But defense is what killed his WAR numbers more than anything.

    He was not a good defender at all, but he was not as bad as WAR made him out t be either. The problem is that WAR does not take into account the size of the Coors Field outfield. The are needed to be covered by a Rockies outfielder is much larger than the area needed to be covered by an outfielder on many other teams, but that is not adjusted for in the formula for dWAR. No Rockies right fielder, including Larry Walker, has ever put up a positive d WAR. After 27 seasons, that tells me that the formula is flawed.

    As for anyone that thinks he was just a “Coors creation,” His OPS+ for the five years from 1997 to 2001 were 103, 108, 102, 105, 104. 3 of those years were his final seasons in Coors, the last two were elsewhere. His power numbers went down, but he was also 36 when he left too. Not everybody is Barry Bonds and has their home run total skyrocket after they hit 35.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      Guy assaulted a pregnant teenager. Yet you adore him.

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      • hiflew

        5 years ago

        Thanks for your opinion on who I should like. I’ll file it in the appropriate place.

        BTW, that woman married him after that incident. And is still married to him nearly 30 years later. So obviously it wasn’t that big of a deal to her.

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        • MWeller77

          5 years ago

          This is a disgusting comment. Folks who are abused often stay with their abusers—it does not mean their abuse is “no big deal.”

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        • hiflew

          5 years ago

          Yeah and it is possible for a human being to make a one time mistake 30 years ago and not have it dominate his life. I was 16 years old in 1992 and ran over a dog while driving (not on purpose). It doesn’t make me a sadistic animal abuser now.

          I understand “battered woman’s syndrome,” but that doesn’t apply in EVERY case. Staying with someone that makes a single mistake is not the same as staying with someone that regularly beats someone. I’m sorry if domestic violence impacted your life in a negative way, but your judgmental attitude is not really appreciated.

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        • RockHard

          5 years ago

          *fart noise*

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        • Brewers39

          5 years ago

          Seriously? You’re trying to compare ACCIDENTALLY running over a dog to PURPOSFULLY hitting someone? WTF?

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    • rememberthecoop

      5 years ago

      You do understand that it’s very likely he took steroids, don’t you? How can a player that cheated and hit his pregnant gf be your favorite player? You must not have any morals.

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      • hiflew

        5 years ago

        You do understand that I place ZERO value on your opinion of who my favorite player should be, don’t you? How can a person be so in love with their own judgmental attitude that they think it should alter someone’s else belief. You must not have any sense..

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        • MWeller77

          5 years ago

          Right, because opposing domestic violence makes us “judgmental.” *eyeroll*

          Making an argument that domestic abuse isn’t all that bad and then doubling down on that argument, though, does make you a horrible person.

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        • hiflew

          5 years ago

          Thank you for your unsolicited opinion about my character. Now go away.

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        • MWeller77

          5 years ago

          Lol at “unsolicited” and “judgmental”

          “Wah, I made a sexist comment that minimized abuse, and someone called me out. Such unsolicited judgment!”

          This is a public board. If you make a sexist comment, you may be called out. Deal with it

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        • hiflew

          5 years ago

          Learn what the word sexist means before you throw that term out. I truly believe you have no clue what it means.

          I also find it amusing that you choose to spend your finite time on Earth conversing with a “horrible person.”

          For me, I choose not to spend any more time on this foolishness. And to MLBTR, I apologize for sinking to this person’s level. It won’t happen again.

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        • DarkSide830

          5 years ago

          you clearly miss several points here. one, its his choice who hos favorite player is. two, its not your place to question his character for his choice.

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        • MWeller77

          5 years ago

          Regardless of what you say, dismissing domestic violence as “not a big deal”–in any context, regardless of whether or not the victim married her attacker–is sexist. And disgusting. And you doubled down on your disgusting comment instead of saying “Ok, I see how that might have been out of line.” So yeah, you’re a repugnant, revolting person.

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        • MWeller77

          5 years ago

          DarkSide830, when people make disgusting comments that minimize domestic violence, it’s everyone’s place to question their character. But thanks for jumping in and defending hiflew and his repugnant views!

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        • pinstripes17

          5 years ago

          there was nothing at all wrong with his comment, you need to get off your high horse and re-evaluate your own character is what it looks like to me.

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        • MWeller77

          5 years ago

          Thanks for weighing in, Pinstripes, but if you don’t see why dismissing an act of domestic violence as “not a big deal” is a problem, then I’m not terribly interested in your opinion. Perhaps you didn’t read the whole thread?

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        • RockHard

          5 years ago

          *eye roll to your eye roll*

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        • Brewers39

          5 years ago

          Disgusting? Yes.
          But how is it sexist? The attacker in domestic violence can be of either sex you know. Just ask Chuck Finley.

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        • Mrsuntan

          5 years ago

          Virtue signaling from mweller77. Must be a safe space bubble boy. People can like who they like ,no one cares what you think

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      • wordonthestreet

        5 years ago

        @rememberthecoop

        Because people choose their favorite player on their own terms – not yours – no one needs approval from rememberthecoop

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        • Mr.Sassypants

          5 years ago

          I bet MWeller is great at parties.

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  17. rct

    5 years ago

    That 1999 season has to be one of the craziest of all time. There’s such an enormous gulf between his standard/traditional numbers and his advanced stats.

    Every team in baseball would have taken a .300/34 HR/134 RBI season from their left fielder but the adjusted numbers have him as much worse than replacement level.

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  18. Ironman_4life

    5 years ago

    By todays HOF standards he should be in. Raines and baines and walker are hofers. Think about that when making a hof list

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      Do you guys even understand baseball

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      • Ironman_4life

        5 years ago

        Not at all. I just started watching last year.

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        • MWeller77

          5 years ago

          How do you make a touchdown?

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    • DarkSide830

      5 years ago

      Dante was good, but nowhere near as good as those guys

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      • MWeller77

        5 years ago

        I find that the Purgatorio drags a bit, and the Paradiso is just boring

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    • brucenewton

      5 years ago

      Raines and Walker were far superior players to Bichette and Baines.

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    • rct

      5 years ago

      Raines and Walker were orders of magnitude better than Harold Baines. And Baines was way, way better than Bichette. This comparison is bonkers.

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  19. Melchez

    5 years ago

    “Before he was became…”

    You guys need to hire a proof reader. 6 million people on the unemployment line.

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    • rememberthecoop

      5 years ago

      Tim: I would do it for free for you. I was an editor for Bleacher Report for 8 years. I just enjoy doing it to be honest.

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    • MWeller77

      5 years ago

      How about you fund the MBLTR proofreader position, so we can continue enjoying a free site?

      Go away, Grammar Guy

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  20. Le Grande Orangerie

    5 years ago

    The Beatles refs make this the best article ever written on MLBTR. To be George Harrison is damn good.

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  21. bennygb07

    5 years ago

    Another perfect Coors overrated candidate. OPS 200 points higher at home. Avg and obp was 60 points higher at Coors. WAR at least tells the truth. I guess Walker at least did enough other stuff to sort of justify his induction. Still, a shame Walker was voted in.

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    • Maurice Lock

      5 years ago

      Fool

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      • bennygb07

        5 years ago

        Truth ‍♂️

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        • jdgoat

          5 years ago

          Except you’re wrong

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    • brucenewton

      5 years ago

      Walkers road slash line is better better than many a HoF’ers career slash line.

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    • ryanw-2

      5 years ago

      Look up Dave Winfield’s WAR.

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      • its_happening

        5 years ago

        You just help rationalize why WAR should be ignored; Dave Winfield was a tremendous player and a great athlete. He played a huge part in the Blue Jays reaching and winning the 1992 World Series at over 40 years old. Sorry WARriors, I’ll take Padres/Yankees prime Winfield over Walker every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Can’t wait for your OPS+ comments…..

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  22. Strike Four

    5 years ago

    Pretty good hitter, one of the worst outfield defenders of all-time. Did one side cancel out the other in terms of his overall value? Probably.

    And no, Barry Bonds takes that ’95 MVP. Biggio, Sanders, Larkin and Piazza probably have a claim to it too. Bichette had a 1.2 WAR that year, he was atrocious in the field!

    Bichette was a total butcher, probably should have been a full-time DH and he’d have a better legacy.

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    • its_happening

      5 years ago

      Bonds….please. Maddux was far and away the most valuable player in 1995. Wake up.

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  23. Polish Hammer

    5 years ago

    Career 5.7 WAR? Wow! Never would’ve guessed it with some of this monster numbers.

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    • DarkSide830

      5 years ago

      really. odd thing is even his oWAR is low. shows just how flawed these metrics can be.

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  24. expos_back_by_2025

    5 years ago

    I’m confused here… As far as I know, Craig Biggio and Vlad never played together!

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  25. Jeff Zanghi

    5 years ago

    This is a perfect example of how every now and then WAR is a really backward statistic. It happens every now and then with modern players too – like a guy will hit .275 with 25 HRs and somehow have a 0 WAR or something similar. I understand how it works and get that his defense and baserunning were atrocious. But in the game of baseball he had legitimate value — hitting 30-40 HRs (and even getting 197 hits once) is a truly valuable thing/player. Like not only was he valuable himself — but that kind of offensive production definitely helped the guys around him as well. My basic point without going too far off the rails — is that teams need/can use big time power bats and that even if their WAR says they aren’t that valuable… they’re still driving in 100+ runs and scoring runs etc. etc. Like sometimes I think we get carried away looking at ‘advanced metrics’ and forget sometimes that what really matters is scoring runs — and a guy who consistently drove in 100+ is a valuable asset… even if advanced metrics don’t agree.

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    • ryanw-2

      5 years ago

      If a player has a 0 WAR with .275 BA and 25 HR’s it’s because they don’t walk, can’t run, and could have bad defense. WAR factors in all of those things. Although I do agree, WAR doesn’t give enough credit to driving in runs. The hosts of the Effectively Wild podcast even admitted that Albert Pujols’ WAR in recent years will and should likely be adjusted because they conceded his continuing ability to drive in runs. His numbers w/ RISP are far better than his numbers with no one on base. Plus, I believe it was 2016 or 2017 where his WAR was diluted by a ridiculously negative dWAR despite playing only a handful of games at 1B. The common excuse for Albert continuing to drive in runs is Trout hitting in front of him. Well, Justin Upton disproved that because he only managed 84 RBI in 2018 despite hitting behind Trout most of the season. It’s because his numbers w/ RISP weren’t very good. So yeah, that needs to be added to the WAR equation. It’s constantly being worked on to improve its validity, so I wouldn’t just dismiss it.

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      • its_happening

        5 years ago

        Then they better start adjusting it yesterday, because the BBWAA are voting in very good baseball players into the Hall of Fame based on today’s current WAR standing.

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  26. Dorothy_Mantooth

    5 years ago

    There has to be an error in this article. How does a season of .298/.354/.541 with 34 home runs and 133 RBIs equate to a -2.3 WAR? I don’t care about the Coors field adjustment or how bad his defense was, those are excellent numbers and it makes no sense that this would come out to -2.3. The league average that year was 267/.338/.417, so Dante’s offensive numbers beat the league average by a wide margin. This is another example of how some of these advances metrics don’t really capture the contributions of a player to his team IMO.

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    • ryanw-2

      5 years ago

      His defense was that bad. If a player can’t catch or throw to save their life, they’re going to cost their team wins.

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  27. Sky14

    5 years ago

    14 years and 5.7 career WAR, how is that even possible?

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  28. Rsox

    5 years ago

    Bichette was purely a product of Coors Field. To his credit he didn’t strike out a lot and made solid contact but take him away from Denver and he had no power (ask the Angels/Brewers/Reds/Red Sox).
    One could wonder how well the player he was traded for (Kevin Reimer) would have faired in Denver as he had one more career Home Run than Bichette at the time of the trade.

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    • its_happening

      5 years ago

      Reimer would have broke 30 bombs no problem.

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  29. Rsox

    5 years ago

    Its also interesting that the Rockies traded away Reimer-a left handed hitter for Bichette-a right handed hitter leaving only Alex Cole as the only LH hitting regular in the Rockies lineup in ’93.

    Bichette’s career probably would have ended prematurely without Coors Field or steroids.

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  30. Mrsuntan

    5 years ago

    Virtue signaling from mweller77. Must be a safe space bubble boy. People can like who they like ,no one cares what you think

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