The Blue Jays have announced that free agent left-hander Robbie Ray has been re-signed. ESPN.com’s Jeff Passan (Twitter link) was the first to report that the southpaw will receive a one-year contract worth $8MM.
It was a tough season overall for Ray, who posted a 6.62 ERA, 11.8 K/9, 2.3 HR/9, and a 7.8 BB/9 (highest of any pitcher in baseball with at least 50 innings pitched) over 51 2/3 combined innings for the Diamondbacks and Blue Jays. If there is a silver lining, Ray’s numbers over his 20 2/3 innings with the Jays were better than his numbers with the D’Backs, though even a 4.79 ERA, 6.1 BB/9, and 1.7 HR/9 with Toronto is nothing to write home about.
Still, the Jays clearly saw enough to welcome Ray back into the fold and line him up for a spot in Toronto’s rotation. Passan notes that the Blue Jays intend to use Ray as a starting pitcher, adding him to a rotation mix that includes Hyun Jin Ryu, Nate Pearson, Tanner Roark, and Ross Stripling. It’s safe to assume that the Jays aren’t done exploring the pitching market, given how Ray, Roark, and Stripling all didn’t pitch well in 2020 and Pearson also struggled (and had some injury problems) in his first MLB season.
Home runs have always been an issue for Ray over his seven-year career, though his control went from being a concern to a full-on problem in 2020. The one constant, however, has been strikeouts, as Ray has an 11.1 career K/9 and even led the league in that category in 2017 (12.1). That season was Ray’s peak, as he finished seventh in NL Cy Young Award voting and seemed to be blossoming as a front-of-the-rotation starter. However, Ray was more okay than spectacular in 2018-19, as his walk totals crept upwards, his ground-ball numbers declined, and batters began to generate more hard contact against his arsenal.
Ray’s fastball velocity also dropped by almost two miles an hour, from a 94.3mph average in 2017 to a 92.4 average in 2019. His velocity clicked back up to 93.7mph last season, and while there wasn’t much to like about Ray’s Statcast metrics in 2020, he still finished in the 80th percentile in fastball spin rate.
Ray is still only 29, and the one-year commitment gives the Blue Jays a chance to take a longer look at Ray without sacrificing any flexibility in future payrolls. Toronto is thought to be one of the few teams who has some spending capacity this offseason, and this early strike to re-sign Ray (when most clubs reportedly have yet to even figure out their 2021 budget situations) indicates that the Jays could be aggressive players as they look to build on their wild card berth from the past year. MLBTR ranked Ray 36th on our list of the winter’s top 50 free agents, correctly predicting him for a one-year contract but for only $6MM.
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I had Robbie Ray going to SEA and James Paxton going to TOR. So far, I’m 0-1. Some years I don’t guess any right.
Technically that’s 0-2.
No, it isn’t Paxton can still sign with TOR.
Right now he’s a FA. So which team is he on? Not Toronto. 0-2, technically.
There’s nothing “technically” about it. Free agency isn’t a team, which would make him 0-1.
He is predicting where he will end up and you’re crazier than the Orioles when they signed Davis to that extension if you think he goes unsigned.
I didn’t say he would go unsigned. I was pointing out that Garry said “so far, I’m 0-1” but really both of his two predictions are not correct so far. Ray is not on Sea. Paxton is not on TOR.
Anyway, this is dumb, so apologies for upsetting your feelings. I’m moving on.
He isn’t 2-0 till Paxton signs elsewhere I am incredibly bored and I should have just ignored it but technically he is 1-0 till Paxton signs somewhere else.
He’s “technically” 0-1. You can’t get an L without playing
That a …… interesting take lol
Then everyone is either 0-50 or 1-50 in predicting the top 50 free agents. Paxton isn’t in Toronto yet, but he isn’t with another team yet. He’s very correct. He guessed that Ray would go to Seattle, which he didn’t, making him 0-1. He’s predicting that Pax goes to Toronto, which if he signed with another team that isn’t the Blue Jays would make him 0-2 since free agency isn’t a team. That’s like saying the Pittsburgh Pirates won the 2021 World Series because they haven’t lost it yet.
I’ve got Paxton going to the Mets.
Contest open?
I think there’s still time to change that Ray pick and start out 1-0 Garry
Good signing for the Jays. More than a few teams could use this guy.
Phew, one garbage out of the list of obvious Braves wishlist.
8 million for a guy who’s probably slated to be 5-6th seems steep
It’s buying low actually, if Ray had been a free agent last off-season he likely would’ve commanded a 3-4 year deal and MLBTR predicted him to be one of the top 3 free agent starting pitchers last off-season as well. He has 1 rough year in a truncated season in the last 5 years and all of a sudden everyone thinks he’s a bum. This guy could easily rack up 180 innings of around 4 ERA ball with about 12k/9 if he bounces back, he’s also been fairly durable throughout his career. So it’s not a bad bet.
It’s high risk high reward though because they’re shelling out $8M for him. I usually think of “buy low” deals as being cheaper than that, but I guess you’re technically right.
If you get 2017 Ray there’s a ton of upside to be had, but it’s not like a reclamation project or bargain bin million dollar signing where there’s little to no risk. If he’s 2020 Ray again next year then this is a bust. It’s a one year deal though so at least there’s no long term risk.
Not huge risk but agree it could and should have been cheaper. Not just based on his season but bc of covid too
Is a 1 year deal really ever high risk though? Maybe if you’re the Rays or Indians and only have 10 million to spend that offseason. Bluejays ownership makes billions of dollars a year off cable and cell phone contracts with over priced data plans, if Ray bombs again this year, it’s not the end of the world. He’s got some good upside, always racks up K’s, he’s durable, still young and is still eligible for a Q.O.
Yea, you’re right. MLBTR predicted 1/6. But just remember Bluejays had to give Roark 2/24, Toronto seems to have a tough time attracting free agents especially when they don’t know if they’ll be playing in Toronto or a AAA facility. It’s why I think they need to be more aggressive in Asia, would be nice to see Toronto sign their own version of Maeda, Darvish, Ryu (originally) or Tanaka one of these years. I heard there’s a really good young middle infielder I think named Something Kim available this year. Could be a good 3-b option and backup SS. Although Semien is another solid option.
Ha-Seong Kim, SS out of S.Korea.
Unless some other team has connections to BTS or some other kpop, then the Jays could have the inside track using the Ryu wooing power.
Kim walks more than strikes out, plays infield, has speed, has power.
Thames and Ruf have been recent players that adapted fine from KBO to MLB.
This guy could be a great add for someone.
That’s the guy! Having a Ryu definitely can’t hurt.
It’s buying stupid, not low. BigDaddy is being very nice with his assertion.
It appears the Jays are operating on the idea that 2020 was too short to base any decisions on. 8 million for Ray last offseason would’ve seemed smart.
And if 2020 had been a normal season, who knows, Ray’s bad start could’ve been forgotten and his season could’ve turned out well.
The Jays are operating on a bad scout and a gut decision. Ray has never been all that good and the signing should not be justified if this organization has a desire to compete for the division.
2017 was 7th in CYA voting.
When will you tone down on the extremes?!
Gary Sanchez was good in 2017. Want to overpay for him? Bringing up 2017 helps my argument. There is nothing to tone down.
Would I take Gary Sanchez on a 1 year, $8 M contract? In a heartbeat.
You said “Ray has never been all that good.”
Response cited a season where Ray was very good.
You got your arguments all tied up in a knot if you think Gary Sanchez has anything to do with the response I gave.
Next time try saying, “Ray hasn’t been good since 2017”.
I can’t say I fully agree with that one, but it would be a lot more difficult to rebut.
No I stand by the statement that Ray has her been all that good. Exact words. Placing 7th in Cy Young is good? Since when? Grabbing a 3rd place vote from one guy? Sorry, make an argument that he’s good. I’ll wait.
Makes one of us Smuz. You can find better catchers for much less. Sanchez would take 8-mil for 1 year if non-tendered in a heartbeat too. Only you would offer that much.
Your feet are dug in way too deep here, but I’ll give it a whirl.
You realize that speaking in absolutes only detracts from your points?
And you realize that Ray got a 4th and four 5th place votes in 2017?
This isn’t Jimmy Nelson or Alex Wood getting props from the local sportswriter. Or Tanner Roark lol.
Exaggerating and using misinformation to try to prove your points is a very bad look. You are on the internet, so you don’t have any excuse to not be looking these things up before making your wild claims.
The only thing about Ray’s 2017 season that wasn’t fantastic was the control.
Even if you said he has never been all that great, I could almost get on board with that.
But you just gotta be the blowhard that digs his feet even deeper instead of admitting that there is a sliver of chance that you might be wrong and missed a key factor.
Nobody forcing you to change, keep doing you all you wish. Just pointing out that you’d likely end up having more enjoyable exchanges with fellow baseball fans if you weren’t so rude most of the time.
A better argument to toss dirt on the Ray signing would be compare to Porcello. CY Winner in 2016. Signed for $10m three years later in what seemed like a bad signing. Turned out worse than bad. This could be Ray. Nobody seems to be denying that.
If the $8m was going to tie the teams hands, I might be up in arms, but this feels like the first move of many.
Teams that don’t develop arms like Cleveland or Tampa etc, tend to be stuck picking through the wart filled pile.
Relative to the rest of the pile, Ray signing seems slightly high, but not a gross overpay by any means.
Once Porcello and Lester end up signing, the cost for Ray won’t seem so bad is my prediction.
I could be wrong, but there is zero evidence available for anybody to be speaking in absolutes when speculating on how things will turn out.
You realize guys like Sonny Gray, Lance Lynn and Anibal Sanchez have had career resurrections in recent memory right?
Drew Pomeranz is another that I’ll bring up because he feels like a perfect comparison to Ray.
Sometimes guys reinvent themselves, or they get over nagging injuries, or they overcome mental health obstacles that rejuvenates their desire.
Change of scenery sometimes magic.
Now I’ll wait for you to ignore my points and bring up Gary Sanchez again.
Maybe you’ll act adult and respond sincerely.
Not holding my breath. Surprise me!
Other thoughts on pitching adds this offseason.
Lefthanded starting options, pretty easy comparisons for Ray-
Paxton, Hamels, Smyly, Quintana, Wood, Hill, Minor, Lester, Happ coming to mind from lists I’ve been browsing.
All should end up with multiple offers, mainly because I think that teams still value lefty arms. Also because the RHP smorgasbord offers a similar mixture of what ifs.
I’d expect Paxton and Hamels to make more than Ray based mainly on previous contracts, but also because I think they have higher odds of performing better than Ray.
Very far from expert prediction:
Paxton 1 year, $12m plus heavy incentive/ option/ buyout. .
Hamels 1 year, $10m
Smyly 1 year, $6m
Quintana 1 year, $8m
Minor 1 year, $8m
Wood 1 year, $5m
Hill 1 year, $4m
Lester 1 year, $6m
Happ 1 year, $6m
Wide open for nitpicking, fire away if you wish.
Feel free to try some predictions out as well, this is more for future self than anything.
Some I’m likely way out to lunch on, just havin some fun, ballparkin it while we wait for the action to really ramp up.
Some teams still gotta bring in a couple innings eaters (aka keep prospects downers) is a main factor in why I feel that some of my predictions may end up reasonably close to target.
Sorry it’s not along the lines of “none of these players belong on a team that plans on winning, they will all sign for minor league deals, I’m cranky, need a nap and miss Xmas music, where’s my clean diapey, arggg” but I hope there is some joy to be found among my ramblings for somebody more than just future self.
And in the current economic climate. During normal times, fine, but in 2020? Yeah, seems steep.
Nice low-risk signing, if he can bounce back he will be a a good trade chip or qualifying offer candidate.
You sir, have an incredible username.
At first thought I didn’t like it.
Then once I start thinking about it, it’s ok.
I would rather have Ray at 8 then Anderson at 10.
What if Anderson signs somewhere at 4m?
I’d still take Ray at 8 vs Anderson at 4.
The Anderson at 10 was imaginary and no good for comparison.
Lester at 25 or Happ at 17 are other imaginary option numbers that were declined.
What if the alternate is Ray at 8 vs Lester at 8 or Happ at 8?
Somewhere in that range.
I don’t really like any, but there’s only really a few arms available that are appealing.
Ray can get out elite bats, but can also walk the whole team. I don’t mind that he is one of the options for filling these innings for 2021.
if teams are actually going to cry poor id doubt it to be reasonable after this
Definitely speaks to the scarcity of starting pitching.
Ya know, @darkside – eschew capital letters! – you & the Phillies fans here (personal opinion: the NL East have the best comments…you guys do MLBTR right, man) have kinda grown on me.
But man, I’m already more than sick of the whole “cry poor” saying. Every thread has a variation of this. For one, it’s inaccurate. Secondly its way overdone, man.
The Cardinals are the only team that deserve the “cry poor” mocking.
im not writing an English essay here. ill use capitals when i feel like it.
I’m fine with the lack of caps despite my using of it. I just love the irony in what you said, and you still capitalized English lol.
Autocorrect did that likely
ill use of caps yo
Ray is a good signing at that figure. Watched him for years in AZ. His only problem was in played in Az and got little attention. Nice job in Toronto to get him early at that price and just a year.
Now does anybody want a slightly used Tanner Roark so we can slot Ray in that spot?
We’ll throw in some Grade A Canadian maple syrup to sweeten the deal.
JD, if Ray is worth $8m, maybe I’m underestimating Roark’s value. Maybe someone would actually take him if the Jays retained $8-$9m of it?
As a Jay’s fan, happy with this signing. I peg him as a 4th, and if his ERA is around 4, it is fine.
And as a Jays fan that’s all the matters
Lower salary than in 2020? A sign of things to come?
He also lead the league in walk and had a terrible season though
Like I said before, Charlie Morton is going to get way more than the 8 million predicted. This backs up my case. Though if Ray was to be had for 8, than why didn’t Hand get picked off the waiver wire? This is going to be a weird (2020) offseason.
8 mil is probably his floor but likely will be a number TB can get to if they haven’t already.
MLBTR predicted 8 to the Mets, which seems absurd that Morton would have to go to NY market to get 8 million. I’m not sure how well thought out that prediction was.
Charlie Morton to Houston.
Yeah, the Rays look kind of out of touch with the market for declining that option. He is easily worth $15 million on a one year deal if this Ray signing is any sort of indication for how the free agent pitching market will play out.
I don’t understand why the Rays are out of touch. They don’t set the market, and they operate with the lowest payroll or close to it every year.
The Rays decision should have no impact on forecasts league wide as they’re such an outlier with payroll.
This signing signals the Blue Jays aren’t looking to win in 2021. An overpay for a 6th man in the rotation who cannot throw strikes. Ray was not getting $8-mil in this market from anyone. Premature signing for a mediocre at-best arm.
This is last years version of Travis Shaw; an overpay for a guy who won’t move the needle. Blue Jays fans should be disappointed. Paxton, Lester and many others are rejoicing that an inferior pitcher got that much.
You must be high bro. Robbie ray had one bad season and you bad mouth him this bad. You must be the same guy that was pissed when they resigned JA Happ. If ray even pitches a 4 ERA he’s worth 8 mil, just saying
@franx How in gods name do you warrant giving a guy 8 million who just pitched to a 6era and played on two different teams? 8 million? I think the one who was high was Atkins when he offered 8 million to Ray.
Franx the Blue Jays want to make a move in the standings. They want to contend. You do not sign Robbie Ray if you want to contend. Watch the market start to dip. This is an overpay and an overshot by the Blue Jays. Better pitchers will sign for equal or less. Mark it down.
I think this is an analytical move. They like the pitch metrics and think they can do better than Arizona at helping him utilize his arsenal effectively. I think there’s some evidence of that potential given he looked much better in some of his outings after the trade. I don’t love it for a team that specifically identified “strike throwing” as a focus for the off season. He was really hard to watch at times.
Did you try watching him with the sound off? The team values his tennis grunts more than the average fan.
Robbie Ray isn’t coming back to be good. He is what he is. When the ball leaves his hand he has no idea where it is going. He is a max effort guy and that velo is starting to dip.
Simply put, Robbie Ray is not on a championship team roster. An overpay.
Lord help the BlueJays.
werealljustguestshere. You’re 100% right. Ignore these uneducated fans. You’re right all the way. This is a joke of 8 million dollars spent.
That’s a bit of an overpay. There will be much better starters who will sign for less.
Zero sass, I swear, curious who you think these starters will be?
If the market is ice cold, there are a few that come to mind for me.
The much better part is a bit of stretch on some of these guys admittedly.
Smyly, Arrieta, Leake, Fiers, Hill. Minor, Richards, Desclafani, Shoemaker, Walker, Happ, Hamels could be in the neighbourhood. Few of these will get multi year. Few will see some bid ups. Few are done.
Expecting to see Bauer, Odorizzi, Stroman, Gausman, Paxton, Tanaka, Morton, Kluber earn more than an $8m commitment even in a cold market.
Wainwright probably the only pitcher that I can feel strong about saying fits the description of much better starter that will sign for less.
Might have missed or written off some gems.
Sincerely curious who you like?
I guess it could possibly work out for the Jays. Sign Ray to a deal for 1 year and if he sucks they can just not resign him. If he’s doing great then they could keep him for the year or flip him at the Deadline for some prospects.
For 1 year they will get prospects? No chance.
Didn’t expect him to get that much even for a one year deal. I guess the pitching market isn’t going to be as down as we initially thought?
Blue Jays out here purposefully inflating market numbers to scare off those “poor teams” from going after other players the Jays may have their eyes on
how is that a poor business tactic?
Its not what the BlueJays are doing and it is not a good business tactic to overpay Robbie Ray on purpose.
@jimmertee Lmao, couldn’t have said it better my self.
@jimmertee Hiilarious comment, lol. So true though. They act like it’s some special plan from Atkins, no it’s just a bad signing. Lmao.
I had Robbie Ray on my Brewer wish list. Every time I saw him pitch in Miller Park, he flourished. Would have liked to see a full season as a Brewer. Jays got him for about what I thought.
As a longtime Brewer fan, I’m glad they didn’t sign him. The guy is simply incapable of throwing strikes. It’s difficult watching games where the starter has thrown 100 pitches through 4 innings. To the extent he flourished in Miller Park, that says more about the Brewers offense than it does about Ray.
Nobody else getting Kendrys Morales vibes here?
The early signing before the market flops and bargains are had all around…
There are currently many more rotation openings than there are free agent starting options. Even if it’s that 4IP 4BB kind of outing. Sometimes those are 5 runs, sometimes they are 0. Two times through the lineup has some value.
Perhaps bulk guys will be in demand this offseason.
Don’t understand the rush. Perhaps the SP market will dry up fast, but they clearly don’t like to wait for other teams to set the market.
I”m a bit surprised. Thought the Jays would be aiming higher.
Well, a move on November 7th especially a one year deal doesn’t mean a team is done for the winter.
They will definitely bring in more pitching, both in the bullpen and rotation. This is just a rebound candidate/depth move.
They just wasted $8-mil on Anthony Kay Sr. Jays fans want guys like Bauer and Springer. No, they are aiming low and focused on 4th place.
“Anthony Kay Sr” lol. had to laugh at that name. accurate too.
So much for the Brewers big signing this winter…
Bring back walker now
Ummm…………………………………. 8 million for Robbie Ray? Why?…………. Sick and tired of these garbage signings.
Tanner Roark, Robbie Ray, these guys are borderline useless. “innings eaters” as the “experts say. Yeah.. Of 5-6 era’s. Way to be an innings eater.
I’m already looking at the brightside that Ray’s deal expires at the end of the year. That’s the brightside, both Roark and Ray are gone at seasons end. Other then that, you might as well walk over to the garbage and throw 8 million in there, cause this is a completely pointless signing.
Also, before you say, it’s just 8 million dollars, it’s 8 million dollars that can go towards an actual useful player.
Well said. Jays signed him on upside similar to trading for Fisher for upside.
It’s easy to call Roark useless and a bad signing after the year he had but he was ranked 20th on last year’s top 50 free agents list here. The Blue Jays were stung in ’19 with a pitching staff that struggled to get through 9 innings every game so signing one of the most durable pitchers in the game wasn’t the stupidest thing. I didn’t like it then because they had already picked up Anderson who is similarly durable, but they hadn’t yet signed Ryu and weren’t sure they would at that point. I’m not confident in Ray at all, but it’s not like this free agent class is full of guys who are sure to perform well. An upside play is fine as long as they don’t stop here.
Kam people were saying it was an overpay for Roark a year ago. People felt he was a #4 or #5. Some thought Roark was a 1-yr plus option guy. Let’s not pretend Roark was a good signing a year ago when most felt he wasn’t. Overpaying for borderline starting pitchers does not boost your team. Jays better pray Pearson contends for a Cy Young to get them off the hook for these thoughtless transactions.
Almost every free agent is an overpay. That’s how the system works. Create a shortage and the prices go up. This website had a prediction of Roark for 2 years $18m. The Jays went over that. He is a #4 or 5. It’s one reason I didn’t like it because I see the Jays as having a bunch of those already but with some upside. But his value is in the durability. If you are getting average production from a run prevention standpoint, it’s easy to find that. It’s not quite so easy to find that in a guy who can give you 30+ starts reliably. That’s huge for a team that had so many issues the year before. Over a 162 game schedule, it gives you something reliable and allows you to put your young guys in better positions to succeed. I moaned at the Roark addition but I understood it. I’m moaning a bit too at the Ray signing, but I’ll wait to see what the rest of the off season looks like. It’s only early November.
Then what is your actual point? Basically you are running in circles. So let’s break this down:
Jays needed two SP and the signed Ray who might not crack the rotation for Pomeranz-type money for 1 year.
Roark was an overpay. 30 starts. Wow. How many quality starts? That is what matters. Especially in today’s game where bullpen games are becoming the norm. With the potential of 28 man rosters it will definitely be utilized.
Shoemaker at half the cost would’ve been money better spent, injuries included.
Upside is a word used by fans with reasonable doubt over their squad. Ray signing brings reasonable doubt.
I’m happy he is back but based on both his poor season and the current economic reality I think the jays could and should have signed him significantly cheaper.
I have hope he can turn it around but definitely not convinced. Why not spend that much money toward a proven player with recent success.
At 4-5 million I’d say good deal
Agreed on the 4-5 part. Blue Jays should not be settling for Ray. That is a poor signal to Jays fans. Ray is the type of signing a non-contender makes as a placeholder.
Probably have to see how the remainder of the market plays out, and if giving him $8M instead of $4-5 in anyway restricts the Jays elsewhere.
That’s a poor move to start off with, You don’t overpay for the lower guys 1st, should have signed Walker 1st or another established starter to be the number 2, most other teams are cutting 10 mill contracts, Walker sees Ray get 8mill He’s going to want more, Jays could have let Ray sit, I doubt any other team was looking to rush out & sign him. Sign the priority players 1st, then u know how much money u have left.
Walker was always going to look for a Roark type contract(2 years 24 Mil) and the 8 Mil to Ray has no bearing on that what so ever! All this signing does is say to the other FA’s Jays are open for business, we have Dollars and want to spend it!
He’s never lived up to the hype / potential that the big K rate teases. He had a terrible season and he’s the first guy thrir FO signs for top dollar ??? SMH.. No one was signing RR for more than $8MM. In this market he’s worth $4MM. If you see something no one else does and need to entice him then make it a $2MM signing bonus (covid protection fora truncated season), $2MM salary and $1MM in incentives.
I’ve said it before, but Ray just screams like a guy who would thrive if you gave him a two inning role in the bullpen, like 7-8 inning guy. Opponents hit just .222/.314/.357 in their first go around vs the lefty, but that OPS rises to .706 in the second time around and then .905 the third time around.
With the addition of Ray @8 Mil the Jays projected active payroll now sits at 70,836,904.00 (per Spotrac) that is before a decision on Shaw’s projected 4.8 Mil salary, there is plenty of payroll wiggle room to make major additions to the team. All the Jays did was use the money saved by not picking up Anderson’s option and give it to Ray.
I really don’t see an issue with this signing… you take away last year… any team would jump on him for 8 million… if he didn’t have the season he did last year he would be signing a multi year deal worth somewhere around 4yrs/80mil
The set up and closer combo of Ray Romano would be funny!
Had a 112 ERA+ over five seasons, 2015-19. Above league average in both 2018 and 2019. A lefty, only 29, high K rate, velocity uptick. Probably was heading towards a 3/45 before the season of Covid. An $8M one year deal seems quite reasonable for a guy you can slot in at the backend, but has legitimate #3 upside.
They need guys contending for #1, not long shot #3.
Ray looked good in his last 20 innings pitched besides 2-3plus walks a game. His location was a lot better, and was throwing 93.5 i think. We need to have depth with multiple guys, hes a lefty, was hoping hed resign.
11 earned runs and 4 bombs in 20 innings looks good to you? 14 walks during the 20 innings also. Are you sure?
He was great in the post season gotta give him that!!
This is win win win for Toronto
Win 1, no such thing as a bad one year deal
Win 2, announces to the league when a vet comes to the jays org at the deadline, given their choice they want to resign (Tijuan Walker and Matt Shoemaker on record they want to come back)
Win 3, hard to imagine they don’t get at least 20 second half Ray making the offer safe, but if they get <18 Ray…..for 8mill….their laughing
ohhhh, 8 mil Canadian.