JUNE 13: Severino will undergo an MRI this afternoon and go for further examination on Monday, per Bryan Hoch of MLB.com.
JUNE 12, 5:24PM: Early indications are that Severino has suffered a groin injury, according to Kristie Ackert of the New York Daily News (via Twitter).
JUNE 12, 4:57PM: Luis Severino’s recovery from Tommy John surgery hit an apparent setback today, as the right-hander left his minor league rehab outing due to a lower-body injury. Reporter G.T. Julian Guilarte (Twitter link) has footage of the aftermath, as a clearly pained Severino had to be helped off the field.
While perhaps the only consolation is that Severino didn’t suffer another arm injury, it certainly looks like the right-hander will now have to work his way back from another serious-seeming problem. Since Severino wasn’t expected to be an option for the Yankees until at least the start of July and likely closer to the All-Star break, it is possible that his latest injury could threaten his entire season.
Such a scenario would make it essentially three lost seasons in a row for Severino. Shoulder and lat injuries limited him to 20 1/3 combined innings in the 2019 regular season and postseason, while the 2020 season was a total writeoff after Severino underwent Tommy John surgery in February of that year.
New York was eyeing Severino as a midseason rotation boost, adding depth to a starting five that has been generally solid thanks to Gerrit Cole, Domingo German, and Jordan Montgomery. Corey Kluber had also been pitching well before a rotator cuff injury sent him to the 60-day IL until at least late July, while Jameson Taillon has struggled — a nightmarish outing against the Phillies today boosted Taillon’s ERA to 5.74 over 53 1/3 innings. Michael King has been filling in for Kluber, and if Severino is unavailable, Deivi Garcia and Nick Nelson are now the top depth options if Taillon can’t get on track or if another injury surfaces.
Another gut punch for baseball fans in a season filled with them. Realistically, what do the Yankees do? Can they afford to wait until the deadline to acquire a starting pitcher? If scores hold up, they will be 7.5 games back by the end of the day
The Yankees may be falling into the same category as the Cardinals. If your team isn’t playing as well as expected, or is beset by injuries, this may not be the year to double down and trade the future for quick fixes. The market is going to be steep for pitchers who can actually be difference makers. Teams that think outside the box and avoid (or shed) bad contracts are going to be glad they did in a few years.
DonOsbourne. That’s how see it. While a quick-fix trade for a starting pitcher might seem like a good idea, the wave of injuries would have me leery of doing it. This might be an opportunity for the Yankees to do what you say. Fans will hate it now. But in a couple of years, it might seem like a masterstroke. Except for the other night against the Twins, Chapman has been fantastic and has another year left on his deal. He might be a good place to start.
Chapman is good idea. I was also thinking about Taillon. Maybe he’s one of those guys who can’t handle New York. But he’s young and cheap enough to bring something in return.
Ed Whitson aside, I’ve never bought into the can’t handle New York thing. The Yankees’ mistake with Taillon was jumping the gun before taking an actual look at him, post-surgery. If they trade him, they’ll get less back than the four prospects it took to acquire him. Dangle Chapman with the intent of getting a very live prospect.
You’re probably right about about Taillon, but Randy Johnson and Kevin Brown both struggled in New York. Age was a factor for both but I remember Johnson getting into a beef with a paparazzi guy as soon as he got to New York. I believe the media scrutiny played a part in his struggles. Joe Torre described Brown as a fragile personality who didn’t handle negative feedback well.
Sonny Gray? Kenny Rodgers?
Players often struggle going from one team to another. It’s not just New York. What pressures have there been in 2021? Hardly anyone is at the ballpark.
Go big. Max Scherzer.
A.J. Burnett was another pitcher who couldn’t handle NY. The ridiculous short porch in RF certainly didn’t help.
Chapman is a horrible unlikable player. I dislike him for a few reasons, besides his sick smirk. He AND Germain, as long as they are on the team they will never win..
You stick a pin in my voodoo doll, it’s just how i feel.
But he pitched in the al East which is a hitter friendly division
Because of the domestic violence charges? Why not Jose Reyes on that list or marcell ozuna while you complain on that topic.
Thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.
Did the Cubs win with Chapman?
To be fair; if there was ever a team who’s signature has been sell the future for right now it’s the New York Yankees
Well said. The Yankees seem to be made of glass this year. Get Kluber healthy and trade him since he has proven to be valuable when healthy. Severino was always too small to be a starter. They need to move him into the bullpen where he can lessen his load and perhaps stay healthy. They have a very valuable bullpen and can easily get out of some of those contracts with some good trades. Their youth movement was a great idea but unfortunately all but a couple of them can’t stay healthy. Time for another reboot and they can get some very very good prospects for their oft injured younger guys. Think of the return they can get for Judge. Frazier should bring a decent return as well. Keep the young guys that mostly stay on the field like Gio and Torres. Get as many almost ready prospects as possible and let them finish the year in New York. Let them have at it next year and get the missing pieces in FA after next season.
Probably just wait until they know what the actual injury is before making any decisions. Pitching is not really their biggest issue right now, anyway.
Letting the other teams score more runs is just as much a pitching problem as anything else.
Trade Frazier and Andujar to LAA for Ohtani. Or trade those two to CLE for Bieber, Plesac & J Ramirez.
Wake up! Cost way more than those two!
This is a joke right?
I really think yankee fans are delusional. they swear their prospects( Andujar and frazier who are no longer prospects) are barely solid contributors to the ball clubs are actually pieces worth trading someone wants? Yankees don’t have enough pieces for an otani
I think he was probably joking/trolling. Those names are who you always see Yankees’ fans try to trade
Yup. Some in here are sarc-challenged. Folks still having fun from when the NYY fans wanted to trade Frazier & Andujar for Trout.
The Yankees chances at top value for those 2 were 3 years ago. The Yankees need much more than Ohtani for a WS shot this year. They need to be smart and sell at the deadline. They do have several pieces that would bring back nice returns. They need young OF with a strong pedigree that can stay healthy. That Hicks contract makes that a necessity.
Wow he’s become Pavanino.
Pavanino?
Was that the guy with the dogs, the bell, conditioned response, etc?
No.
I think that’s the opera guy.
Luisiano Pavanino.
Now that we’ve covered psychology’s forefathers & opera greats, @Joe, what do you think?
I’m not all that convinced the Yanks thought we’d get much of anything out of Sevy. Still sucks though. We just had a positive update about him too. He’s a fun kid to watch throw. Guess I’m hoping we can see him at some point in some capacity this year yet.
But it’s another double whammy injury situation for Severino. Lot to come back over a few months.
Yeah Ducky, I agree. It’s wishful thinking to expect Sevy to be back to his dominant self this year. I doubt Cashman and Co. were really counting on him though I believe they would spin it that way.
I saw the clip when he suffered his injury. He looked like he was in a lot of pain. I’m willing to bet, he tore something rather than just a strain. (I’m not a doctor but I do play one on the internet. )
It’s definitely a tear, @Joe.
(Using my recently acquired online medical degree for the first time.)
Man.
We look all discombobulated at the plate again.
Fire Thames.
Something has to change here.
That was Pavlov I believe
Oh, sure.
I do get my opera guys mixed up.
Uh oh NYY
i think he might just be broken at this point. move him to the pen at least for this year?
Why do bullpen pitchers not suffer injuries? Where did this narrative come from that the pen is easier/safer for pitchers than starting. John Smoltz said it was much harder on his arm pitching out of the pen.
He won’t do any good in the pen on the DL either.
IL…
guilarte is not a reporter lol
Severino is turning out to be a Lemon. No warranty or lemon laws are going to help this situation
RIP, Jim “Mudcat” Grant, whose 145 career wins included 21 for the AL champion Twins in 1965. In addition to being a solid pitcher, he was also a fantastic singer who performed regularly with his band Mudcat and the Kittens for a number of years.
Here he is in 2011 singing “What a Wonderful” at a memorial ceremony for the late Harmon Killebrew, He’s accompanied on guitar by Rico Oliva, son of Twins great Tony Oliva.
youtube.com/watch?v=vu8iu4xTDMU
TRIVIA QUESTION: Which former Major Leaguer sang backup on the original version of “Louie Louie”? (It was not Mudcat Grant, and remember I said original version).
Was it Robin Roberts?
This guy.
spectropop.com/ArthurLeeMaye/
You just locked up the most interesting post of the day.
But Mudcat Grant still outranks him because he has the best sports nickname in history.
Who sang on a record with Bucky Pizzarelli playing guitar?
Luis Severino sings “Take the money and run” on his way to the bank every payday
The irony of a Mets fan saying that
12 IP in 3 years since talking to the media about degroms contract situation…
Boone-doggle went back to how old is chap man and he dry heaved another game away. Nothing like a 10 inning game when you let your starter get one whole out, then yank him. At least the great britton got to toss an inning for his $13,000,000.
whyhayzee
Nothing like a 10 inning game when you let your starter get one whole out, then yank him.
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I the idea of letting German hit in the 3rd was weak as well. He was pitching poorly, and wasn’t going to go deep. One out and one on, with the top of the lineup coming up, and down 4 runs, I’d have made a move.
dang it
this year has been a drag but it’s hard to complain when the other new york team is kicking butt despite a tsunami of injuries
The Yankees are supposed to be built for runs scored not their pitching. So I think the problem is their hitting more than pitching. Not looking for negative responses just gave my opinion
It’s situational hitting. They’re about dead last in scoring RISP. A small part of that is being unlucky. Then comes defensive and base-running mistakes. Fundamental things. I make no excuses for them.
Yankees lineup has more holes than swiss cheese. Yankees also very boring and predictable.
Man, I’m not sure about that, @BleacherCreature.
Since this core first took the field in ’17 they have been a prolific scoring club. ’17-’19 Yanks were first or second in runs/game. Topping out – with basically the same guys – at 5.77 in ’19.
Finished 4th last year.
Indeed, this team scored more runs than any other club in MLB from 2017-20.
But right now we are: 24th.
24th!
Bro. There are NL clubs scoring more than us. & it’s the same guys(!).
I’m generally not in favor of in-season firings but…what are Thames & Pilittere doing? Why have Clint, Gary, Gleyber, Miggy, all taken steps backwards at the plate? Those were supposed to have been “his” guys.
I’m in favor of making a change there.
Everything Bleacher Creature and Mlbnyy said is spot on about this team.
Sure they were a well oiled machine and prolific scoring club ‘from 17-’19 but since the ’18 season key players have struggled with injuries and regression. And in ’21 with the exception of Judge the whole team has regressed. DJ was lights out for the Yankees until this season has regressed along with Sanchez, Clint, Torres and whomever else who has tried to play 1st base. The lost of Hicks and Voit hasn’t helped the situation and the almost all righty lineup has hurt as well.
Which Stanton are you going to get this year? The Stanton that owned ’18 or the ’19-’20 Stanton that can’t stay healthy. So far he is a little of both. We all know he can still hit mistakes out of the park as we witness in the Minn series. But can he stay healthy enough to help carry the team and what happens to this team if Judge gets in a slump? The team will get better but they won’t come close to last years production, the team just has too many holes and plays station to station.
Sanchez and Miggy are raking. Too young to count them out as a legit resurgence.
Yes Miggy is raking, but it is a small sample right now. And Sanchez has been better of late. I’m not counting either player or the Yankees out. I was just pointing out how Sanchez and others have regressed overall.
Bring in the prospects and call it a season!
What prospects?
“The Prospects are a good time, danceable rock n’ roll band based in the SE Metro area of the Twin Cities. We play fun, dance-rock songs from the 70’s through today! Our motto is simple: Rock. Dance. Repeat.”
How could it hurt?
Ah, Badfinger…..The Yankees are middle of the pack according to most of the minor league rating systems (about 18th) so your comment about their prospects not being desirable isn’t quite accurate…….we have no clue as to what/how teams willing to trade look and value somebody else’s minor league players so there’s no sense in debating whether a minor league player on the Yankees is less desirable than somebody else until you have a trading partner and evaluate their team needs against what the Yankees have to offer.
“We suck but not for long.” – Cashman
If he had Severino’s return in mind when he sent that cryptic text to Jim Bowden, Brian might have to revise the suckage prognosis.
The New York Yankees are going to clean house this upcoming off season. Cashman and his team are going to be fired or he’s gonna “step away from the game for a while to spend time with his family”. I don’t think Cashman is horrible, he’s made some good moves but that Stanton trade was so awful. $20 million a year for another 64 years. That contract is like one of those dreams where the hallway keeps getting longer as you walk except when we wake up the contract is still there. I still scratch my head. They should move some pieces at the deadline if things keep on like this. I’d trade anyone not named Gerrit Cole, Jordan Montegomery, or Domingo German. I think that for the next good chunk of years those three are going to be an excellent 1-2-3. As a Yankee fan I’m excited about both of the younger guys. Cole’s just a beast and you need that type of guy on any staff regardless of the price tag. Obviously some teams can’t pay it but the Yankees can so let them. How about a table setter at the top of the lineup as well?
Honest question, who is tradeable>? The team is stuck with Stanton, what team would take a struggling Sanchez (he’s gotten better) at the plate and behind the plate, are they really gonna trade Torres and Judge?
Honest answer, really don’t know as it all rests in Hal’s hands as far as moves.
Yes, they need to explore trades and the only tradable guys probably include Chapman, Torres, and maybe even Judge….with Sanchez an addition since he’s starting to hit a bit, he’s definitely raised his value. Their farm system isn’t bad (middle of the pack) but the Yankees need to stop over-valuing their farmhands and sell high when they are doing well, pretty much as the Rays do.
Everyone is tradable…even Stanton, but he’s got to go West due to his no-trade clause, the Yankees would have to pay down a ton of money to move him, and your probably going to get a bad contract back in return…..but at least you’d rid yourself of that salary and the limited amount of production that is coming from it and the clouded team situation that is dictated by it.
Lamar Smith
Honest question, who is tradeable>?
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This is always my favorite part.
1-Not everyone will agree, but the #1 is absolutely Torres. Unless either Voit or DJLM are traded, then you either accept Torres as your SS, or you trade him. Right now, I think he still has a ton of value. Either a team will think his hitting will recover if they switch him to 2B, or a team will talk themselves into thinking he can be a SS, or that defense doesn’t count.
2-Chapman. He is still really good, but once your payroll cap issues are over, he can be replaced with a FA.
3-Maybe Sanchez. Cashman just has to make an early decision on whether they will offer him arbitration. If the answer is no, and that will still be a difficult decision, then they have to move him.
I could see them letting Boone go but Cashman isn’t going anywhere. He’s the GM for as long as he wants to be, for better or worse. Judge, Torres and the relievers are their valuable pieces. Montgomery is just another pitcher and German is a ticking time bomb. Stanton is an albatross and DJ is proving to be a mistake. But this season is all about staying under the threshold. Winning is secondary.
I guess your not taking into consideration of salaries. Several veterans: Stanton, Lemahieu, Cole, Hicks are very expensive and will be for some time. If history is correct, their contributions will gradually diminish. Also there are several players that will get expensive in arbitration: Judge, Sanchez, Voit, Torres. And then they will hit FA relatively soon.. Meaning they will be expensive to resign or costly to let go.
All in all they are looking at a numbers crunch by 2023, and going over the Cap, creates a new set of problems. They are the Red Sox of 2018, just replace a few names (Mookie with Aaron, etc.)..
NY’ers love Cashman, but I’ll never understand why. He took on an enormous amount in salary for Stanton, and gave up prospects, to boot. That move alone should put him on the fence. But he’s made several other questionable moves. Without being able to outspend everyone, he doesn’t appear to be a very good talent evaluator.
dennyd….why do you say NY’ers like Cashman….obviously you’re not a NY’er making that comment….NY Yankee fans like a winner that has the opportunity to go all the way for a WS victory…..and while Cash has delivered a “winner” on a pretty regular basis, his teams haven’t been able to finish going on 12 years (2009) which both frustrates and angers the fan base.
If getting rid of Cashman or Boone, is the answer then so be it……frankly, I think the Yankee talent evaluators are very much the problem because they seem to keep putting together a team that is dysfunctionally becoming a team that is neither a “winner” nor certainly won’t be in a position to “finish”.
Also, as far as being able to “outspend everyone”…unless you do it, and the Yankee ownership has shown a distain for that tactic, there’s no reason to even talk about that.
Maybe I give GMs too much of a pass, but when a deal like the Stanton trade happens, I have a hard time believing that wasn’t an ownership decision. That’s such a large commitment, ownership has to be involved, right?
Ownership probably has to give the okay, but it would have to be the GM recommending it.
When you go through the list, there are more holes than can possibly be filled this year. It’s time to start looking to 2022 or 2023.
Chapman is a good place to start. Anyone notice that Chapman has come “unglued” since grip enhancement jumped to the front page?
How many Yankees are going to strikeout before they figure out how to hit breaking balls away?
I enjoy reading Yankee fans comments about the Yankees. No holes barred, hold back nothing, tell it like it is. I was a Yankees fan back in the 50’s and 60’s, primarily because when we got a TV set, stations broadcast the “Game of the Week” and it always seemed to me that the Yankees were playing. I can still remember hearing Pee Wee
Fat fingered that one…. Pee Wee Reese and Dizzy Dean. “Sut back with a cold Falstaff and enjoy the Game of the Week.
Maybe the yankee players are fragile because they are treated like babies all through the system. They should just call Dominguez up now before they ruin him at 21-22.
Cashman needs to just punt at this point and start selling. Knowing him tho he’ll insist on being competitive and resort to dumpster diving for players so he can stay below Hal Steinbrenner’s beloved luxury tax.
Sounds like 6 to 8 weeks. If so, could be done for the season, yet again.
Four more weeks and then we’ll have a solid idea of what the season is worth. Only problem with selling is that Chapman is the only solid asset that will bring back something of impact potential. Everyone else is either playing so badly that they are not going to get much return or are needed for next year.
Bigger questions will need to be addressed after the season. You’re not going to fix SS, CF and C in season. Hopefully Andujar, Frazier, Torres and Voit finish strong so NY has some options in the off season.
The Yankees could use a new manager and management for that matter. They need to learn small ball and not rely so much on the home run. They would get a better pitch selection for better hits
I read some of these posts and have to laugh. Like the Yankees are one or two pitchers away of winning it all. They are home run happy, plodding on the basepaths, pitching hasn’t been there for years as far as starters. Injury prone and they still talk about Gary Sanchez like it is still his first 4 months in the league and Aaron Judge like it is 2017. Memo to Yankee fans, just because your team plays in NY and gets all the attention from ESPN and Mad Dog Radio doesn’t mean you are contenders. Laughable probably 90% still think Cashman is a great GM. Keep living the dream
Hasn’t been a bad dream. Can’t lie about that.
I’m not one for all that, “27 rings, beyotches” stuff, or whatever.
But.
I have seen two dynasties, a spare title, & several “extra” AL pennants for good measure.
The Yanks haven’t had a losing season in a quarter century, virtually always play in the postseason & even on the rare occasions they don’t make it, they play meaningful games late into the year.
Something I have also seen a lot of are takes forecasting the Yanks demise. When we prove difficult to kill this year, per usual, I will look forward to the same forecasts…next year.
People talk about the Yanks because – high payroll, mystique, high profile players, or whatever other various reasons – *they are always relevant*. We’re certainly showing our flaws & scuffling right now, but it’s a long season.
I guess go ahead & get it in.
& we’ll be looking forward to more of the same from you next year.
Happy Sunday though. For real.
Well said Ducky!
where are all those cashman supporters now? like fits65?
Cash is really a genius GM isn’t he? can really build and develop a SP staff, right? wins every trade right? builds his offense with diversity too. Truly assembles the best defensive pieces too, so everyone plays their position.
cashman is awful. Hal is guilty of keeping him, and boone is the puppet.
Not everyone will agree, but I think Cashman is carrying some scars. For about a decade, he was regularly castigated for not being able to develop any minor leaguers. And now he does. But now I think he is going overboard on keeping the prospects. Unless you are TB or CL, etc., it can’t be all one or all the other.
There comes a point where you need to dump some prospects for a #1 SP. Cole alone, imho, won’t do it.
DFA this walking sheet of glass already
No surprise! Dude isn’t even good as a post season pitcher, not a difference maker