The Cubs were one of the busiest teams of deadline season, moving many of their veteran players in a series of trades that officially closed the curse-breaking era of Wrigleyville baseball. However, president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer feels the next window of contention will open sooner rather than later thanks to these deals, telling The Chicago Tribune’s Meghan Montemurro and other reporters that “we did everything we could today and over the last week to try to reset this organization and to try to make the best decisions possible.”
Citing the recent examples of the Phillies, Tigers, and Giants, Hoyer wanted to avoid a scenario that would’ve seen the Cubs perhaps wait too long to make that “reset,” as Hoyer said those other clubs “basically ran to the end of the cliff and they fell off and they had to rebuild.” While Hoyer said that the organization was “willing to go to that point if this was a winning team this year,” the team’s 11-game losing streak from June 25 to July 6 essentially ended the Cubs’ chances of competing in the NL Central, especially since the Brewers got hot and broke out to a big lead.
Rather than seeing impending free agents like Kris Bryant, Javier Baez, or Anthony Rizzo all potentially leave for nothing this winter, the decision was made to move them at the deadline. “We were able to, in my mind, speed that process up dramatically because we’re able to acquire a lot of young talent, some on the major-league team, some that’ll be in the minors,” Hoyer said.
Of course, there was no shortage of “real emotion” that went into trading some of the iconic Cubs figures of recent years, and Hoyer didn’t rule out pursuing reunions with any of these now-former stars in free agency this winter. As Montemurro notes, however, such re-signings are perhaps a little unlikely, given how the Cubs had extension talks with several of their top players dating back to 2020, yet couldn’t come to terms on a long-term deal.
There don’t appear to be any hard feelings on at least Baez’s side, as the newly-minted Mets infielder told Russell Dorsey of The Chicago Sun-Times that “I think the communication here has been really good between the players in the [Cubs’] front office. They talked to us straight up told us what the chances were. We understand the business side. It happens. Hopefully happens for the best for the organization.”
Catcher Willson Contreras (controlled through the 2022 season) is one of the few notable stars remaining on the roster, and it stands to reason that the Cubs might explore trading Contreras this winter, after discussing some potential deals with teams last offseason. For Contreras’ part, however, he would “love to stay here….This is the only team I’ve played for, and if they want to rebuild around me, I’m happy to talk.”
I’m sad… 🙁
I know it doesn’t mean much from a Yankees fan but sorry dude. Tough bullet to bite on. Hoyer had a plan and executed remarkably. The Cubs were honest and transparent. No doubt they’ll be on top of the hill again soon.
At least hoyer got to decide and not Epstein and dip that would have to hurt worse.
Yeah very tough decisions but that what he gets paid to do. I think he did the right thing for the team. Ricketts let Theo spend freely as long as they were WS contenders, so I’m hoping he’ll open his wallet for Jed too.
Yeah just give it another 108 years or so lol
That the Cubs…the Cubs…can have a fire sale, and not even a great one…is a tragedy.
Take care of Rizzo. IMO, there isn’t a more likeable player than. New age Jim Thome. Not a single bad thing can be said about him. Wish he could be eligible to win another gold glove. Not sure how it works with kid season trades.
Rizzo 2hr as a Yankee so far. Not too shabby
Well, I know I said before the trade deadline the Cubs were not going to make any significant moves, and it seems I was mistaken, so I apologize. I did not realize the Cubs owners do not care about winning and only care about money. They got their one world series win and Ricketts shrugged his shoulders said “huh, that’s good enough for me” then figured out he could make more money by trading away players starting with Yu Darvish. First, Marquee Sports Network, now they trade all their good players. Well, Ricketts, you can say this to my chances of buying Cubs tickets now: “Goodbye, adios, toodaloo, sayonara, see you later, cheerio mate, hasta la vista baby”
You make absolutely no sense.
Reason number 234 to never visit Tik tok……..
Creating a new regional sports network and negotiating distribution rights are two very complicated things. Having one when all the kinks are worked out enables the franchise to have further national/global outreach aka monetization aka lining the pockets of Ricketts himself and increasing franchise value. There is nothing pointing towards him unwilling to spend when the timing is proper.
Is this your first trade deadline?
How did this get 6 upvotes? This is a terrible take.
All white Sox fans I bet
Cubs have have gone over the luxury tax three times in the past six years. No team is willingly exceeding the luxury tax every single year. If Steinbrenner is not letting Cashman exceed the luxury tax every year and the Guggenheim Group is not letting Friedman spend freely every year, then it’s obviously a league wide trend to be calculated when deciding to splurge and not a Ricketts problem. Guarantee Ricketts will allow Hoyer to spend freely when they are ready again.
It’s always tough to see a favorite player leave. Worse when most of the teams recognizable faces turn over.
As a Sox fan, I’ve been seeing boom/bust cycles a ton, especially the past decade. Think of all the worst to first cycles, that, winning world series has helped some of the pain on. But one thing we haven’t seen is several years in a row of tanking like other clubs. Give Us a year or two and we’re back to beating up on the rays and Yankees.
Point is, trust the process. Honestly I don’t have anyone on our current club I’m really attached to… maybe bogey and sale. But it seemed like every couple years a favorite was gone.
Here’s hoping the future is bright for y’all.
I hope Kyle Schwarber gets healthy put some dents into the green monster. Maybe hit one out to right field. Hit one so hard he dents pesky’s pile.
I dont know. This year was a wash and trading rentals for future players was good move. They retooled the farm and never afraid to spend so a year or two they will be back up there.
Looks like Hoyer won the Darvish trade let’s see how the rest work . The player they got from baez trade was one they debated before getting Ed Howard . Now they have both . Go Cubs ! Jed Hoyer goat
The Cubs did wait too long
Scrambling to answer the phones the last 48 hrs isn’t a plan
After the Yu trade they should have kept on pushing.
I hope they use money as a tool moving forward-
Ex- This offseason offer Hendriks w 2 yrs at 14 per for Justin Uptons disgusting 1/28
Contreras 1 yr left est 9 mill for Will Meyers disgusting 1/22
If they do bring 1 or two of them back this winter, it’ll be a stroke of genius considering the quality of prospect they got for 2 months of playing time.
Or bring in different guys. Or wait a year or 2 then spend even more. They have a plan for sure.
Kris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo, Javy Baez, Craig Kimbrel, Andrew Chafin, Ryan Tepera, Joc Pederson, Jake Marisnick and Trevor Williams
for
Nick Madrigal, Codi Huer, Pete Crow-Armstrong, Alexander Canario, Caleb Kilian, Anderson Espinoza, Kevin Alcantara, Alexander Vizcaino, Bailey Horn, Daniel Palencia, Greg Deichmann and Bryce Ball
Going to need some time to digest this, needed to see it written like this to help process it as a whole deal.
The Rockies should send their upper management team over to learn how to speed up a rebuild. Now Cubs can focus on spending money this off season while watching their return on the trades and newly drafted guys develop.
I think the Rockies have already shown that they don’t have any interest in learning how to rebuild. Even if it means being competitive sooner. The Orioles will have a better shot at the playoffs before the Rockies will.
The Rockies owner has been in complete denial for awhile now Always touting the “we’re a playoff team” delusion. If they had traded Story even just last offseason, the return would’ve been strong.
Was a decent return. Some of the trades were better than others. Think they should have insisted on Bart. The fact that Bryant on a QO would not have netted the Cubs a first rounder along with the Cubs not eating any money made the Bryant return lower than expected. Somehow the Yankees got the former teams to eat the final two months on Rizzo and other players. Loophole that needs to be closed in the next agreement.
As a baseball fan, I agree with the loophole.
Bart is the replacement for Posey. I don’t think the Giants are trading Bart.
They could have insisted on Bart, but then no trade would have been made. People might see the quantity as low, but the quality was high. Killian is no joke, and his 96/9 K/BB ratio this season shows that he’s much higher than the #30 ranking he received at the beginning of the year.
Killian is the guy I am most curious about in this haul. If he was doing this at low-A, whatever, there are always guys doing that because they are more polished. However, his success is now at AA.
Was disappointed to see Killlian go but could be worth it, he’s shot up the system well, might take a year or two but I can see him making an impact
Hoyer restocked the cupboards but some of those are going to take some time to ripen
As a Cardinal fan I like what the Cubs did. Bryant deal was light but all the other deals made sense to me. Kimbrel got quite a bit back. Team has a plan unlike the Cardinals. Gotta stay or go. They went…..
I don’t believe StL doesn’t have a plan. Plan was derailed a bit with the injuries. They’ve got a good young OF, IF corners are locked down. Tons of money coming off the books. Flaherty,Hudson & Mikolas will be back. Yes, Hudson next year
What’s the plan in 2021? Get healthy maybe somehow get into the playoffs and definitely not be good enough if that happens?
Lots of teams had injuries. Teams with good depth, the kind of good depth Mozeliak traded away, were able to manage.
The cleanup hitter on the team who BTW is the best player on the team was sitting on the bench for all 3 playoff games LAST YEAR!
Mo must go.
Agreed. Lots of teams had injuries. Brewers have fought through a ton. Yelich and Cain have been on and off the IL. Same with Wong. Teams just have to hope that what they have as replacement options can come through and help the team thrive.
The difference is that the Brewers have a killer top 3 in their starting rotation which covered a multitude of gaps this season. But…if any of those guys go down…
Far too quick to call for the GMs head in STL… they got Arenado, they’ve been crushed by injuries, and it sounds like you have unreasonable expectations. It would have been foolish for any middling team to trade away the farm on a long shot chance to the wildcard game… you go with what you’ve got then tweak in the off-season.
Oh they’ve got a plan. It’s bringing in young arms like Jon Lester.
Cubs had a fantastic deadline. Crow-Armstrong and Canario are solid pickups for rental players and both more valuable than a comp pick. Getting Madrigal for Kimbrel was insanely good (not bad for the White Sox either). Much better deadline than the Rockies
Killian is the sleeper prospect of the bunch. He’s having an absolutely insane year between AA/A
Cubs put themselves in a position to rebound quickly. They have one horrible contract but it won’t really matter with a 40-50 million dollar payroll next season. They just need to make a couple smart impactful free agent signings the next two years and hopefully will have a stream of prospects coming to the bigs starting with Brennen Davis.
dangit Jed, why isnt Davies in Philly right now!
Hoyer did a great job getting prospects and the next three years might be lean years for the Cubs but they will get back into playoff contention by 2025 or 2026.
During the winter the Cubs need to shop Kyle and Wilson for the best offer and should have moved Kyle at this deadline seeing teams we’re buying but they didn’t.
The team they have now is still better than the Pirates and could surprise and finish ahead of the Red Birds, but no way they will make the playoffs this year at all.
So my grade for Hoyer at this deadline is a Solid B and felt they could have gotten a better deal for Bryant but then again maybe no one was truly buying…
Dude no team with that payroll has to wait 4 years for a rebuild. You could punt 2022 that’s what I would do. But come 2023 the team should be good and ready to compete again.
Why should I trust a Hoyer rebuild when he was a bust as a GM in San Diego? This is basically the same front office sans Epstein with the deck chairs rearranged, that drafted and developed poorly over 10 years with no pitching. They made mostly awful free agent signings and could not extend the stars while at the same time failed to recognize the shortcomings and move those players earlier when their value was higher.
They won a WS title and 5 playoffs trips… Get over it… Or would you rather have another 100 plus year drought?
This, wildly successful. Failed in areas, but still any team or fan should hope for 4 to 5 years of contention. 2015 2016 2017, they were in the game right up until the end. 2018 was a playoff year too. Only the dodgers did as well in that time frame.
As a fan, I’m sad, but the team they put out there was some of the best baseball I’ve ever watched in my life. Those memories are priceless.
Why should I trust a Hoyer rebuild when he was a bust as a GM in San Diego? This is basically the same front office sans Epstein with the deck chairs rearranged, that drafted and developed poorly over 10 years with no pitching. They made mostly awful free agent signings and could not extend the stars while at the same time failed to recognize the shortcomings and move those players earlier when their value was higher.
So craven.
This guy is the one who sat next to Lincoln at the play and complained about the plot.
The only move the cubs made that i sincerely didnt get was Rizzo to the Yankees, a team out of contention who, at best will get the 1 game play in, Cole will pitch, loose cause he cant pitch in a big game and that will be it. Why bother getting him for 2 months and not make the playoffs? they are not gonna jump 2 teams, on that note, it would have made so much sense him going to the red sox, a POWER hitting first baseman, what position do we need? a POWER hitting first baseman, its also where his career began years ago, oh well, enjoy him and gallo untill September 30th, but make no mistake about it, my team was just as bad, they got 2 AWFUL relievers and an injured outfielder that they dont need at a position they dont need filled, no idea why they made the moves, its like Chaim made the deals at 3 53 pm knowing the deadline was at 4 so fans watching could see the MLB network say the words ‘ red sox’ and get excited.
It’s not the Cubs’ problem if the Yankees make the playoffs this year or not. They just take the best offer they get.
Really sour grapes troll regarding the Yankees…..let’s see how the rest of the season plays out…..”out of contention”…”Cole can’t pitch in a big game”? KM Yankee A beatch!
Think of where the Cubs organization would be had they done these trades 2-3 years ago.
They’d mostly have gotten more for Bryant and Baez, established a new core of talent, more money to spend, and been buyers instead of sellers this summer.
There are simply no practical reasons (excuses) why the Cubs should have waited this long to trade players they clearly had no intention of resigning.
They won the division last year. You don’t gut teams when you are making the playoffs every year. The Cubs did this in the right way. They were out of it and got what they could for all the upcoming free agents.
So that is your expectation… winning divisions? Seems to me a team like the Cubs, with their roster, should be focused on winning championships. They clearly weren’t good enough to get to a WS, let alone win one, last year. The entire baseball world expected them to make trends and spend more money on BETTER players to stay in contention. They didn’t do it, to the shock of everyone, including Cubs fans who don’t normally have the heart (or spine) to question the front office or criticize the team.
*make trades…
They had the best 6 year stretch in Chicago (both teams) baseball history. I’d say he met my expectations. I enjoy watching competitive baseball and it’s been a fun 6 years. They just completely restocked the farm and can re-sign nearly every player they traded in a couple months. I guess the white Sox should start trading off assets because there are multiple teams better than them right now. No, you make the playoffs and hope to get hot and make a run. They gave themselves that chance in 2015, 16, 17, 18, 20. 19 I think they missed by a game.
Brewers have made the playoffs three years in a row. Current team looks nothing like the past. Stearns is always tweaking that team.
Agree if referring to 2017. Arrieta and Wade Davis would have gotten a haul. Of course how mad would cub fans be after winning World Series and selling ?
Could you imagine a world where the day after the world series win, they trade away half the team. Yeah, That would make so much sense! Hilarious
Who said anything about trading “half the team the day after the world series”? Your reading comprehension stinks, go back to the 3rd grade.
I was just wondering aloud the look of trading big pieces after a championship.
Relevant but in no way a direct response to you. I don’t think I targeted you in any way. Relax
Dude, you’re the most bitter, disingenuous person on this website. Why would they burn the team down in a year where they won the division, made the playoffs, and had some of the best pitchers in baseball? If they had done exactly what you prescribe here, I am 100% certain that you would be mocking and guffawing that decision right here.
I think a lot of baseball fans are still living in the 90s or early 2000s where you could trade a rental star for multiple elite prospects and an average closer for a top 50 guy. Analytics have changed all that.
Not to mention, scouting is more accurate now, so teams value their top prospects a lot more.
Aroldis Chapman rental brought back Gleyber Torres (stupidly so) in ‘16. Several other instances of this have happened in the 2010s and 2020. But logic dictates you trade guys you can’t or won’t resign while they still have control on the contract. Keeping them until the last possible minute only helps the coastal team they eventually get traded to (give up less in said trade).
Gleyber got them a World Series. In reality is he really that good? I don’t get all the fawning over Torres. In 4 season he’s barely pushing 7 WAR. He’s a solid player hardly some superstar
If Chapman was so crucial to their WS win, why didn’t the Cubs resign him.
They gave up their best prospect plus Chapman for three months of relief pitching. That’s not smart.
They probably should have re-signed him but the Yankees outbid them, it happens. Gleyber was exactly that a prospect not going to help them win a World Series. He’s been fine for the Yankees, nothing spectacular. Nico and Madrigal seem like fine options going forward.
Chapman was the only reason they won the World Series. Without him they would have been out during the playoffs. Madden rode him all the way to the ring.
I think they were afraid those players would accept qualifying offers
I’m content with these trades. It was difficult to make the moves during an earlier season,as our Cubs were still competitive then. Rizzo actually was a surprise. Baez; I’m glad he went. Good ball player. Too much narcissistic grandstanding and a propensity to swing at breaking pitches three feet outside the strike zone. Bryant; he will be a good addition for the Giants. Ross; sorry fans, I think he must go. I’m looking forward to a grand rebuild. Perhaps our Cubs will be competitive by 2023.
“Too much narcissistic grandstanding” What? lol gtfo
Ross made the playoffs in his first season and has made very few moves that I or anyone I’ve seen takes issue with. Certainly less than Maddon. They had one bad losing streak this season and then Jed burned it all down. There’s no reason to get rid of Ross and he isn’t going anywhere.
This isn’t very inciteful. Cubs traded their players coz the didn’t want to compete. Duh. How about the pitcher the cubs got from sf can be a 2-3 starter.
The Cubs traded their players because they were in 4th place with them, they all wanted to be overpaid, and the Cubs want to rebuild with players who make more contact.
Third highest revenues in the MLB + fanbase with low expectations = $$$$$$ for the Ricketts family.
See. Nobody cares what you have to say. No matter what the Cubs do either way, your hate for the Cubs may never allow you to say anything that favors them, therefore everybody ignores you, senile old man. THIS WILL BE MY FIRST AND LAST statement regarding you.
agrorolm – who are you writing about?
Tom Ricketts and Bob Nutting are best friends.
People act like they were the ’27 Yankees. Madden rode Chapman to a WS ring. Without him they would have been out early on.. They have not done much since the WS win. Yes, they did win a weak division and got bounced out of playoffs early. Theo left Boston after the owners wanted to cut payroll. Theo did the same thing when Ricketts decided to cut payroll. Ross was a feelings hire. He was the glory boy for the WS. Now the Cubs fans are paying for it.