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Examining A Potential Juan Soto Extension

By Darragh McDonald | October 10, 2021 at 8:02am CDT

It’s a new era for the Washington Nationals. In a major deadline selloff in July, the club traded Max Scherzer, Trea Turner, Kyle Schwarber, Yan Gomes, Jon Lester, Daniel Hudson, Brad Hand and Josh Harrison. Anyone who was healthy and productive was shipped out of town. Well, almost anyone. Juan Soto stayed.

Even though the team is clearly stripping things down for the short-term, it always made sense to hang onto an incredible talent like Soto since he still has three years of team control remaining after 2021. The club targeted MLB-ready prospects in their deadline deals such as Josiah Gray and Keibert Ruiz, specifically to get back into contention while Soto is still on the club. But why not keep him around past 2024 and get rid of that ticking clock scenario?

Back in August, Soto said he wanted to go year by year, which would seem to indicate he’s not terribly motivated to put pen to paper. After all, he’s already banked some money, having reached Super Two status last offseason. He and the club avoided arbitration and agreed to a salary of $8.5MM for this season. But players have often made similar statements and still gone on to sign extensions when the numbers were big enough. For example, Mookie Betts and Francisco Lindor had extension rumors swirling around them for years, rumors that they consistently shrugged off until they finally got what they wanted. In both cases, they were just one season away from free agency.

So, what would it take to lock up someone like Soto and keep him away from the open market? Let’s look at some numbers. Soto is going to finish this season with three years and 134 days’ service time. The largest extension ever given out for a player between three and four years’ service time is Freddie Freeman’s eight-year, $135MM contract, signed at the start of the 2014 season. But Soto now has more earning power than Freeman did then. First of all, Freeman didn’t reach Super Two status as Soto did. Soto has also accomplished much more in his career so far, compared to Freeman at that time. In 471 games up to that point, Freddie had a career slash of .285/.358/.466 for a wRC+ of 127 and 7.1 fWAR. In 464 games, Soto’s career slash is .301/.432/.550, for a wRC+ of 156 and 17.7 fWAR.

Fernando Tatis Jr. makes for a closer comparison, though with a slightly smaller track record. When he signed his extension in February of this year, he had two years’ service time, with one of those years being the shortened 2020 season. Through 143 games, he had a line of .301/.374/.582, for a wRC+ of 150 and 6.6 fWAR. It took 14 years and $340MM to get his signature. That’s an average annual value of over $24MM.

Mookie Betts also makes for an interesting comparison, but unlike Tatis, he was much closer to free agency than Soto at the time of his extension. He had between five and six years’ service time and was just one year away from hitting the open market. In the three years leading up to that contract, Betts played in 439 games, slashed .299/.389/.535, for a wRC+ of 140 and 22.4 fWAR. His extension was 12 years, $365MM, average annual value of just over $30MM, the largest extension ever given out in MLB history.

Soto’s skill level is very similar to both Tatis and Betts, but he falls between the two when it comes to service time and proximity to free agency. Therefore, it seems fair to think that he could reasonably ask for an average annual value in between the two, where his salary escalates over his remaining arbitration years and into the free agent years. (Tatis’s contract for instance, escalates from $1MM in 2021 to $5MM in 2022, $7MM in 2023, $11MM in 2024, $20MM apiece in 2025 and 2026, $25MM in 2027 and 2028 and then settles at $36MM for each of the last six years of the deal.)

If Soto could get a contract of 14 years, just as Tatis did, that would take him into his age-36 season. That’s not unreasonable, given that other recent extensions for superstars have gone to a similar range. Betts’ extension goes to his age-39 season, Mike Trout’s to his age-38 season, Lindor to age-37 and Tatis to age-35. If that contract had an average annual value of $28.6MM, that would eclipse $400MM, nudging over a symbolic barrier and surpassing Mookie Betts for the largest extension in history.

That’s a lot of money, and probably too much money for the Nationals, without some creative manoeuvring to go along with it. They have Stephen Strasburg’s contract on the books through 2026, paying him $35MM in each of the next five years. There’s also Patrick Corbin’s deal, which pays him $23MM next year, $24MM in 2023 and $35MM in 2024. Add on that theoretical Soto money and they’re in the range of $100MM to just three players in 2024.

That’s probably too rich for a club that’s never had a payroll higher than about $205MM, according to Cot’s Baseball Contracts. But then again, Soto’s contract figures to be quite high by 2024 anyway. Mookie Betts used the arbitration process to get his salary as high as $27MM in his final year of control, and he wasn’t even a Super Two player. So, extension or not, the club is still facing a scenario where Strasburg, Corbin and Soto take up about half the budget in 2024.

The question then is if they want to commit to a Soto-Strasburg duo earning around $70MM for 2025 and 2026, with Soto being the primary line item for about a decade after that. If the answer to that is yes, then baseball could have its first 400-million-dollar man.

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  1. MetsFan22

    1 year ago

    Future Met

    Reply
    • Steve Nebraska

      1 year ago

      At 38 on a bad contract with a old knee that makes him a DH only.

      Reply
      • Fever Pitch Guy

        1 year ago

        Tatis had a “slightly smaller track record”?

        Since when is 143 games “slightly smaller” than 464 games?

        Reply
      • Dunk Dunkington

        1 year ago

        Lmao!!!

        Reply
    • LADBlue

      1 year ago

      MetsFan22 you are insufferable. You realize no one wants to play for your dysfunctional franchise, right? No executive wants to touch it with a 100 foot pole, even if your clown ass owner throws equity and money at them. Soto will be tormenting mediocre, underperforming Mets pitchers for years to come.

      Reply
      • thunderlips

        1 year ago

        By no one, you mean all the superstars that are currently on their roster?

        Reply
        • LADBlue

          1 year ago

          Superstars? As in just DeGrom who is reportedly upset at the organization for how his injury was handled in the media?

          You surely don’t mean Lindor who is just a grossly overpaid above average SS but no longer a superstar.

          The Mets are at least 5-8 games behind the Braves and Phils in true talent now. Stevie ain’t catching that with your FA departures (especially Baez and Stroman) no matter how much money he throws around.

          Not to mention how dysfunctional the entire organization is… even Mets fans can’t bury their heads in the sand for that.

        • Pkindaclub

          1 year ago

          All the superstars last time I looked the only 4 they had where degrom Lindor Diaz n Baez so do elaborate how by your statement you think there loaded

        • 48-team MLB

          1 year ago

          Fortunately for Mets fans, the Mets will be able to get out of Atlanta’s division whenever the league expands to 32 teams and realigns.

          Colorado and Tampa Bay will switch leagues for geographic alignment purposes. It will look like this…

          Baltimore, Boston, New York (Yankees), Toronto

          Chicago (White Sox), Cleveland, Detroit, Minnesota

          Colorado, Houston, Kansas City, Texas

          Los Angeles (Angels), Oakland, Seattle, Expansion (Portland/Las Vegas)

          New York (Mets), Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington

          Chicago (Cubs), Cincinnati, Milwaukee, St. Louis

          Atlanta, Miami, Tampa Bay, Expansion (Nashville/Charlotte)

          Arizona, Los Angeles (Dodgers), San Diego, San Francisco

        • tstats

          1 year ago

          I don’t like this NL West but otherwise I’m down

        • MetsFan22

          1 year ago

          Find me one repot that say Degrom is frustrated.

        • sdbaseballguy

          1 year ago

          Tampa ain’t staying in their present location and Oakland and Vegas are mutually exclusive.

        • LADBlue

          1 year ago

          There are several. He even is quoted “I am frustrated”

          Check the Mets message boards too- did you not see how Alderson came out about Degrom’s ligament and then next day DeGrom openly contradicted Alderson saying “my ligament is fine” and insinuating that Alderson doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

          You think it’s normal for the organization and it’s superstar player to be contradicting each other in the press? Openly? You really believe DeGrom is happy when he literally was quoted in 2018 saying he is “sick” of losing and the Mets have continued to suck since then?

          MetsFan22 you are deluded. Your team is never going to win anything. Switch allegiances and save your sanity for a team that may actually have a chance.

        • Panic in Detroit

          1 year ago

          Nashville and Cincinnati should be flip flopped to match geography and time zones

        • miltpappas

          1 year ago

          Don’t need expansion. Move the Marlins to Las Vegas or Nashville. Move the Orioles to Montreal. Done.

        • frankt

          1 year ago

          So let me guess baseball insider, the Mets will trade deGrom to the Dodgers. You know nothing and stop making a fool out of yourself.

        • The Mets "Missed WAR"

          1 year ago

          @48-team. I like that alignment. Once they incorporate the universal DH though why wait until expansion? Just go ahead and do it. Make the AL teams all western US + Toronto. Have Braves, Marlins, Nationals, Rays and Orioles in NL South. NL North could be Pirates, Phillies, Red Sox, Mets and Yankees. AL West could be all the California teams. AL Central Could be Astros, Rangers, Diamondbacks, Rockies and Mariners. Get the White Sox, Cubs, Cardinals and Royals in the same division and get the Guardians and Reds in the same division. All the state rivalries will actually mean something. The only team that will really have to travel at all is Toronto but it will still be easier on them than traveling all the way to Tampa. Plus the Jays really represent Canada as a whole in MLB. A long with the Jays, The Brewers, Twins, and Tigers could join the divisions that have the White Sox, Cubs, Cardinals, Royals, Guardians and Reds. No reason to make Tampa Bay and Miami both travel all the way to New York when they could just be facing each other. You also get to keep the Yankees/Red Sox, Cubs/Cardinals, Dodgers/Giants and Rangers/Astros rivalries alive that way while creating a Mets/Yankees, Pirates/Phillies, Rays/Marlins, Cubs/White Sox, Cardinals/Royals, Guardians/Reds and even mid Atlantic Orioles/Nationals division rivalries. Not to mention the entire AL West would be one giant California rivalry.

        • LADBlue

          1 year ago

          This wasn’t directed at me was it? Because everything I said is reported in the press- I’m not prognosticating at all. Meanwhile Mets fans continue to delude themselves into thinking they have even a remote chance of competing for a WS title much less even beating the better teams in their own division..,

        • Noel1982

          1 year ago

          Baez or Diaz aren’t superstars they aren’t even perennial all stars

        • Tatsumaki

          1 year ago

          Why do you guys keep responding if he triggers you that bad lmao?

        • GoRav114

          1 year ago

          How can u have that screen name and want the Orioles to move? Orioles r never leaving Maryland, like ever

        • Mjm117

          1 year ago

          Neither team will be moving, so…..

        • Tiger_diesel92

          1 year ago

          Need to stay out of football divisions when they have no sense of what’s north or south is. Or even East to west.

        • abcrazy4dodgers

          1 year ago

          “Portland” lol

      • VonPurpleHayes

        1 year ago

        MetsFan22 won’t go away if we keep feeding him. I’m guilty of this myself, but by now if we don’t realize MetsFan22 isn’t real, the jokes on us. They aren’t even a Mets fan.

        Reply
        • MetsFan22

          1 year ago

          I’m a huge Mets fan.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 year ago

          And I’m Shirley Temple.

        • LADBlue

          1 year ago

          You are probably right. No one could actually believe half the stuff that comes out of MetsFan22 spouts

        • Oldschoolandthemets1980

          1 year ago

          Lfgm

        • bhambrave

          1 year ago

          “I’m a huge Mets fan.”

          You might think about going on a diet then.

        • kodiak920

          1 year ago

          Shirley, you are probably right. He is so ridiculous, that we can’t help but feed him. Metsfan22 has a unique talent, though, he can turn any article’s comments into a referendum on him and the Mets. All it took was 1 post in a Juan Soto article.

        • giantsphan12

          1 year ago

          I am Juan Soto! Where’s my extension??

      • Lee Mazzilli for HOF

        1 year ago

        Sad but true. Sandy has to go. You are not getting a Beane or Epstein while Alderson is their “advisor”. From their it trickles into the dugout so no one is eager to play there unless you overpay them. The future is bleak because the farm is horrible. Smith and nimmo are not your future outfield. Tired of fans looking at players through rose colored glasses. I want a championship in Queens and it’s not happening with this team or front office.

        Reply
        • Oldschoolandthemets1980

          1 year ago

          Nimmo is so damn overhyped, tired of hearing well he gets on base, I would love to see someone like Buxton and stay healthy in cf for us.

        • Lee Mazzilli for HOF

          1 year ago

          Glad I am not the only one. Yes he gets on base but socks at everything else. To win you need well rounded players not one dimensional. Neither him nor Buxton are ever healthy but Buxton is a complete player when he is.

        • Cosmo2

          1 year ago

          You want well rounded? Check out his OPS+. Getting on base is the MOST IMPORTANT thing an offensive player can do. Nimmo is very good. You need to research what actual experts think and leave the talk radio alone.

        • Lee Mazzilli for HOF

          1 year ago

          Rounded is not one Stat. Defense, rbis, war, homeruns, stolen bases, total bases, runs. That is a complete rounded player. He will never make an all star team he will never sniff an mvp vote. What experts think? I proclaim myself watching 10000 games in my life over 30 years seeing what makes a player good and what doesn’t. I was trying to make a point not all Mets fans are bafoons but you ruined it. Find me a non Mets fan who wants nimmo on their team?

        • bestpaboxer

          1 year ago

          Would be glad to have him in Filthadelphia

      • Cosmo2

        1 year ago

        Plenty of players want to play for the Mets. Lindor recently signed. I get the frustration one feels when reading MetsFan22’s absurdist takes, but your hyperbolic response is almost as ridiculous. Players don’t buy into “lol Mets” the way fans do. Plenty of players would gladly sign with the Mets.

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        • BeforeMcCourt

          1 year ago

          No one wants to play for the Mets cosmo. No one wants to manage the Mets. No one wants to build the Mets. The stars that are there can’t wait to leave. Your team is a joke

        • Cosmo2

          1 year ago

          Once again, McCourt, you talk out your butt. Nothing to back up your nonsense, just pure dribble. Lindor JUST SIGNED. Your hyperbolic idiocy is just dumb.

        • Noel1982

          1 year ago

          Find common ground nobody wants to play for Mets is inaccurate! So to is the idea everyone wants to play for the Mets ! That’s not true but either

        • dodger1958

          1 year ago

          Which are these “plenty of players”? I haven’t kept up. I did read an article (I believe in the Atlantic) which stated that during the last offseason deGrom (‘s “people”) tried to work out an extension and were rebuffed and he wasn’t happy. Feeling is that deGrom, if healthy, will opt out after next season and become a free agent and leave. All speculation of course.

        • LADBlue

          1 year ago

          Lol. Lindor signed because he was given an above market deal. You think one single club would give Lindor the deal he got now? Not a single one. That deal is already upside down and his peak years are already behind him.

          No player wants to sign for the Mets- unless they severely overpay, of course. And there’s a limit to what even Stevie will do since you are looking at 100m+ for Stroman, 175m+ for Baez and at least QOs for Thor and Conforto. That’s before you even touch a single external FA.

        • BeforeMcCourt

          1 year ago

          What does lindor prove? If you massively overpay for a guy who had a career year ago 3 years ago, he’ll sign? That’s a win?

          Do you believe Lindor gets 300M this offseason? 250? 200? I don’t even think 200 is a safe bet. The Mets gave him ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION MORE than what he’d get this year, and I’m being generous saying he’s a 200M player. What a win

          That contract is an albatross and it hasn’t even started yet. That doesn’t help your case buddy. Your owner felt the need to out-Preller Preller and you pretend it’s a good thing

        • kodiak920

          1 year ago

          If Stevie Cohen’s beautiful money is the most, 99/100 players will take it. Doesn’t matter what team it comes from. Like any of us, we get the most money we can.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 year ago

          Big market. Willing to spend. Huge fanbase. Plenty of players would be happy playing for the Mets. The LOLMets stuff has more to do with their front office hijinks than the players on the field. I don’t think they land Soto, but they’ll certainly be signing some big FAs in the years to come.

        • Leopold Stotch

          1 year ago

          Cos,
          The term is ‘pure drivel’. You gotta tighten it up if you’re gonna accuse others of stupidity.

          drivel
          drĭv′əl
          intransitive verb
          1. to slobber; drool.
          2. to flow like spittle or saliva.
          3. to talk stupidly or childishly.

        • Dunk Dunkington

          1 year ago

          Plenty of broken down aging players would love to get a overpaid long term deal from the Mets

    • 8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH

      1 year ago

      mets suck, so no

      Reply
    • Bright Side

      1 year ago

      If he makes it to FA, he’ll use the Mets to leverage a better deal with the Dodgers or Giants.

      Reply
      • RobM

        1 year ago

        …or the Yankees.

        If you’re going to play in NY, not to mention being a lefty hitter, there’s really only one uniform he’ll want to wear. That’s not a knock on the Mets. It’s simply reality.

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        • Yankee Clipper

          1 year ago

          Rob, I’ve been hoping he goes to FA, and Yankees target him. That would be incredible! Plus, #22 is available! Greg Allen, I know, but he’s not going to be here. He wasn’t even here when he was.

          Or, he can take 20MM/year with the Nats that’ll be backloaded until 2099.

    • Mario93

      1 year ago

      Would like nice in the Mets jersey.. but I’d be scared he’d start batting .200 somehow. It’s the Mets franchise after all. Seems like they’re cursed, not even kidding.

      Reply
  2. bucsfan0004

    1 year ago

    If Soto said he wants to go year to year for now, let’s take him at his word and not speculate on a potential contract signed today

    Reply
    • JOHNSmith2778

      1 year ago

      I agree. Probably not going to save much money, if any, by locking him up early unless he wants to do something like Trout and do a 6 year deal.

      Reply
    • Orangejedi23

      1 year ago

      Half of sports writing is speculation.

      Reply
      • Steve Nebraska

        1 year ago

        The other half is top ten lists and clickbait.

        Reply
      • Barkerboy

        1 year ago

        Half? 90% plus.

        Reply
      • SammytheBull

        1 year ago

        You are literally commenting on a website called “MLB Trade Rumors”, and then asking them not to speculate? What do you think we do here my man?

        Reply
        • bucsfan0004

          1 year ago

          Perhaps we could speculate on a player who hasn’t shot the notion down of signing an extension? You could literally throw out any name. Bo Bichette. There’s one.

        • Joeypower

          1 year ago

          Hahahaha exactly!

        • raisinsss

          1 year ago

          Perhaps you could refer to the provided list of players who also claimed they wanted to test free agency but instead, contrary to their word, signed extensions.

        • Leopold Stotch

          1 year ago

          bucsfan0004,
          How’s about Lars Nootbaar?

  3. prov356

    1 year ago

    I like what appears to be the beginning of a trend to get back to one team player careers. I like the loyalty by both sides.

    Reply
    • Yankee Clipper

      1 year ago

      I absolutely love it! Great for fans and community too!

      Reply
  4. 8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH

    1 year ago

    Nats let Turner get away. You don’t trade away that type of talent, but I guess when you sign guys like Strasburg and Corbin to terrible contracts, you reap what you sow. Soto won’t be a Nat for much longer either.

    Reply
    • Steve Nebraska

      1 year ago

      Well, he has 3 more years of team control and there is no trade on the planet that will match his value at his age so he will at least be a Nat until July 2024.

      Reply
    • Camden453

      1 year ago

      Actually it was highly intelligent. They sold everything, tanked completely, and ended up with the 5th pick

      Reply
      • Armaments216

        1 year ago

        The Nationals have almost the same roster heading into the offseason that they’d have had anyway. Plus the trade returns and a better draft position. Everyone but Turner was a free agent anyway. As to dealing Turner, they’re looking ahead at a deep FA market at SS if they want to go that route.

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        • BeforeMcCourt

          1 year ago

          Almost the same roster? Cmon man, that’s laughable. They subtracted their best SP and their best position player, who was under contract for next year

          Stras+Corbin is going to cost the National fans Mad Max, Turner and possibly Soto. Wow

        • Steve Nebraska

          1 year ago

          “that they’d have had anyway”

          Other than Turner, they have a better roster next year than they would have had if they had not made those trade. Finish reading sentences before you criticize people.

        • BeforeMcCourt

          1 year ago

          I can read thanks. Before the deadline, I had zero qualms that max was re-signing in Washington. Maybe they pull the rare trade then re-sign, but really, he’s gone. I consider that part of the equation

          Gray is a nice young pitcher but he’s a #3 at best. Ruiz may be a beast but he’s also a 21 year old catcher. Expecting him to magically be the player he could one day be is folly

          And nice job pushing Turner to the side. He just won the batting title and can play elite defense at multiple middle infield positions. That’s exactly the guy you want in front of Soto. Who’s replacing that production? Unless they spend another 200M+ on one of the big shortstops?

    • kodiak920

      1 year ago

      No Corbin, no 2019 World Series. I will eat the bad contract, it was worth it, to win it all, which is the reason we play the games.

      Reply
  5. lordd99

    1 year ago

    If the Nats can’t afford a $28.6MM AAV for Soto, then they probably should trade him now.

    Reply
  6. Rsox

    1 year ago

    The Nats definitely aren’t getting the “Acuna special” with Soto and i expect him to want to test free agency when the time comes. The Nationals haven’t really been into locking up players longterm with the exceptions. of Ryan Zimmerman and Strasburg. Even going all the way back to their Expos days very few players stayed beyond the end of their service time

    Reply
  7. yanks_aaronx3

    1 year ago

    Soto wants to see how the next 3 yrs pan out with some of the players they got back. Smart of him. Why commit to a long term deal now? He even knows he’s going to get paid.

    If he does become a free agent look for the Yankees to get their first $400mm man

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    • 8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH

      1 year ago

      yankee fans think you’re going to sign everyone. maybe try making the postseason with your mammoth payroll first, rather than getting owned by a division rival with a third of said payroll

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      • Ducky Buckin Fent

        1 year ago

        I don’t mean to shock you, @…noDH.

        But: the Yanks played in the postseason this year, the last 5 in a row, & 21 of the last 24. Sincerely hope this information does not ruin your Sunday there, bud.

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        • 8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH

          1 year ago

          enjoy the postseason from your couch. how many years since your last title? cant even buy one properly, like the dodgers. also noticed how you have nothing to say about being owned by the rays, who laugh at your payroll and results

        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          1 year ago

          Watching “the postseason from my couch” is not really my style, bro.

          For one I’m a pretty shallow fan. When the Yanks are done – well – so am I. I’ve watched 2 or 3 innings since the play-in game. Same with the Giants in football.
          & October is the best month for grouse & mixed bag waterfowl hunting. & the Coho & Pinks run up by my hunting shack. So. I do other stuff instead.

          Since you may struggle with some basic math stuff: it has been a “whopping” 12 years. Crazy that us Yankee fans consider that to be some kind of eternity, uh?

          I’ve had a great Sunday thus far.
          Hope yours is the same there, bud.

        • kodiak920

          1 year ago

          A lot of us are “shallow fans”. Baseball is primarily a regional sport.

        • Yankee Clipper

          1 year ago

          Tell that to Cole, about whom everyone said the same; but guess what? Yankees signed him! You were probably one of those saying there’s no way he will cut his hair, he’s going west, etc. Wrong! Time will tell – If the Yankees want him, they’ll get him. Don’t be jealous, it’s unbecoming.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 year ago

          @Ducky It’s tough watching the playoffs when your team gets eliminated from them. I hate the 1-game playoff. It’s brutal to end an entire season on 1 bad game. I’m with you there. If I was a Yankees fan, I would be taking a break right now. Unfortunately, I’ve been watching a lot of playoff baseball for the last decade because my team hasn’t even made the playoffs. So there’s no real heartbreak.

        • Ducky Buckin Fent

          1 year ago

          I think a big part of it is that the season is 162 games, @Hayes. That’s a commitment! & when it ends, it always seems so…jarring to me. *Especially* losing the play-in game.

          I’m primarily watching football or the fights as opposed to baseball these days. But, man, it’s not even Halloween & the Jints season is on life support. Iggles off to a rough start too, uh?

          Good thing we have the hot stove, man.

          Off topic: I’ve thoroughly enjoyed our interactions this season. Hat tip for being a classy dude.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 year ago

          “Off topic: I’ve thoroughly enjoyed our interactions this season. Hat tip for being a classy dude.”

          Likewise, Ducky. You’ve given me a lot of laughs on these boards. Quite frankly, anyone who’s endured my posts and rants deserves an award.

      • RobM

        1 year ago

        Nah. Yankee fans don’t think they’ll sign everyone, but they do know their team has the resources to sign pretty much any player they target. Most of the time they pass, even on the top players. Believe it or not (but you can look it up!), their payroll hasn’t budged much in 16 years, so they do operate within a budget.

        Also, Yankee “down” years are still successful. Just higher expectations.

        Beyond that, totally agree with your name. If MLB was invented today, they’d simply have an eight-man lineup. No DH and no pitcher hitting.

        Reply
    • Lee Mazzilli for HOF

      1 year ago

      Not sure if you heard but George steinbrenner has passed away. The days of loading up and overpaying as many high priced free agents has ended. Getting tired of everyday reading “the Yankees will overpay him a billion dollars” when that ended years ago.

      Reply
      • Yankee Clipper

        1 year ago

        He’s very different. Top-tier player and he will be very young. He’s one of maybe 5 players like that.

        Reply
  8. jvent

    1 year ago

    Soto won’t sign an extension, the Nat’s suck, just do your year to year that you want to do, than come to the Mets.

    Reply
    • 8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH

      1 year ago

      so the nats suck, but he’ll go to the mutts? lol

      Reply
  9. Angels86ed

    1 year ago

    Why is a lifetime extension the only type that’s explored in this piece? It seems a shorter extension similar to the one Trout first signed that allows Soto to become a FA at age 29 would benefit both the team (greater control) and Soto (guaranteed life changing money).

    Reply
  10. mlb1225

    1 year ago

    I feel Soto’s skillset will age very well. He’s such an advanced hitter with a fantastic approach at the plate. He had a 16% walk rate in his age-19 season, and that’s only increased as he’s grown and matured. This year, he had a 22.2% BB%. His strikeouts have moved in the right direction as well. Even once he slows down physically, he’d be a fantatsic DH/LF.

    Reply
    • coolstorybra

      1 year ago

      coolstorybra

      Reply
  11. dshires4

    1 year ago

    *opens Scrooge McDuck’s vault*

    Reply
  12. halloffamernobodycares

    1 year ago

    Gotta admit it was cool to see Soto at Dodger Stadium showing love for Scherzer and Turner. With Bauer’s contract possibly…fades off into LaLa land.

    Reply
    • mlbnyyfan

      1 year ago

      The Yankees should of signed another former National player. Harper wanted to be a Yankee but decided to trade for Stanton the year before. Ohtani refusing Yankees money forced the Yankees to overreact and trade for Stanton. The Yankees are still regretting that choice even if they refuse to admit it today

      Reply
      • Bright Side

        1 year ago

        You’re correct. That said, if the Angels give Ohtani a long extention, they will have similar regrets.

        Reply
    • dodger1958

      1 year ago

      hall not only did Soto show up but he “participated” in the after game celebration. Soto to the Dodgers. Mookie to Center.

      Reply
  13. geg42

    1 year ago

    Soto signs for something like the GDP of Tonga

    Reply
  14. Bright Side

    1 year ago

    Poor comps in this article. Betts, Freeman, and Tatis are inferior to Soto – an OPB beast. Most importantly, none of these “comps” are represented by Scott Boras. The only logical comp is Bryce Harper. IMO, Soto is the best player in MLB. Any extension from the Nats will likely be a year longer and higher AAV than Harper’s contract from the Phillies. If the Nats disagree, then get what you can for him now. Anything else would be stupid.

    Reply
    • Lee Mazzilli for HOF

      1 year ago

      I agree. Soto is going to market as best player in baseball. See where teams are at in 3 years. Hard to speculate now.

      Reply
      • kodiak920

        1 year ago

        Best hitter, at least.

        Reply
  15. Camden453

    1 year ago

    Rays or Dodgers only two real trade spots for Soto

    Reply
    • mlbnyyfan

      1 year ago

      I understand the Rays but do the Dodgers have any top prospects left

      Reply
      • halloffamernobodycares

        1 year ago

        Valid. Ruiz, Gray, Verdugo and Liz have been replaced by Bruns, Busch, Pepiot and Cartaya and Pages. Instead of banging down the door to LA, most of these guys are at AA or lower and still hold that can’t miss status.

        Reply
      • BeforeMcCourt

        1 year ago

        Lux, Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin get the phone started at least, yes. It would basically have to take mlb talent though.

        Reply
        • dodger1958

          1 year ago

          Los Angeles Dodgers named Miguel Vargas the 2021 Branch Rickey Minor League Player of the Year, and Hyun-il Choi as the organization’s 2021 Pitcher of the Year. Add those two to the list of minor league talent.

  16. Metsin7

    1 year ago

    Mets trade Ginn, Mauricio, Baty, David Peterson, JD Davis, and Dom Smith for Juan Soto and then offer Juan soto a 10 year 380 extentsion

    Reply
    • bhambrave

      1 year ago

      @Metsin7: And then you woke up.

      Reply
      • 8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH

        1 year ago

        NY fans (mutts and yanks alike) are the worst. think they’re getting everyone. dodgers close behind

        Reply
        • dodger1958

          1 year ago

          8Man the Dodgers do get just about “everyone” they want. Scherzer, Betts, Turner and Bauer as recent examples (that didn’t work, but not for on field performance).

          My thinking is that Seager is given a QO and if he leaves he leaves, Trea Turner back to SS and Lux or Muncy at second. Taylor is hopefully retained.

        • Yankee Clipper

          1 year ago

          8Man: Where will he go; what’s your prediction?

      • dodger1958

        1 year ago

        bham Mersin7 sounds like Mets22.

        Reply
    • Cosmo2

      1 year ago

      You can’t overwhelm a team with an overdose of quantity. They’ll want quality.

      Reply
    • Lee Mazzilli for HOF

      1 year ago

      I can’t imagine any package the Mets could put together to even get the Nats to answer the phone and he will not accept that contract. If he was being shopped teams would empty their farms and roster with superior package that isn’t headlined by jd davis.

      Reply
  17. BobGibsonFan

    1 year ago

    Soto is a player in another league… in an age where players strike out twice as much as they walk, he had 145 walks to 93 strike outs! .400 OBP every year in the majors. And… he’s 22 years old. UNREAL!!!

    Reply
    • RemovePitcherWinsFromTheRecordBooks

      1 year ago

      LOL

      Reply
  18. dclivejazz

    1 year ago

    Funny, I thought this article was about Soto, not the Mets.

    Reply
    • Cosmo2

      1 year ago

      I dunno what’s worse. The delusional Met fans or those obsessed with hating the team.

      Reply
      • BeforeMcCourt

        1 year ago

        It’s the first and it’s not hard

        Reply
        • Cosmo2

          1 year ago

          Few are as delusional as you, McCourt.

  19. BeforeMcCourt

    1 year ago

    Tatis is a bad comp. Soto is already making decent money in arbitration. Tatis’s first 3 years are less than Soto’s current salary.

    It’s taking a helluva lot more than a 28M aav to sign Soto to a mega deal. Stars are getting 36M a year for their FA years. He’s going to aim to top that

    Reply
  20. CalcetinesBlancos

    1 year ago

    What is the benefit to signing him now? He wants insane money, period. If you thought he’d give you a discount, that’s one thing. Also, the second you sign him to a huge deal he no longer has as much trade value.

    Reply
  21. tstats

    1 year ago

    The intro to this article is amazing

    Reply
  22. Tiger_diesel92

    1 year ago

    Soto going to make an 300-400 million contract, but if he’s smart he’ll take the betts move and make more money in arbitration then collect in free agency to the highest bidder.

    This whole other making division is stupid , it’s east vs west top 5 records from each league makes the postseason this whole divisional play is stupid when you have teams with a higher record in the wild card spot play against a division winner who’s record shows they belong lower.

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