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Pair Of Pirates’ Relievers Should Attract Trade Interest Once The Transactions Freeze Is Lifted

By Anthony Franco | December 8, 2021 at 10:24pm CDT

Coming off their third consecutive last-place season, the Pirates remain mired in a massive rebuild. Contending in 2022 looks far-fetched, and it remains to be seen if there’s enough internal talent to be competitive by 2023. Aside from perhaps Bryan Reynolds and Ke’Bryan Hayes, Pittsburgh figures to at least be willing to entertain offers for anyone on the current big league club. Once the lockout concludes, it seems likely they’ll draw calls from rivals on a pair of their top relievers: David Bednar and Chris Stratton.

Bednar’s a fairly recent trade acquisition, one of five young players Pittsburgh added last offseason in the deal that sent Joe Musgrove to the Padres. That proved to be an adept pickup for general manager Ben Cherington and his staff, as Bednar was rather quietly one of the league’s better relievers in 2021.

Over 60 2/3 innings, the now 27-year-old Bednar pitched to a 2.23 ERA. That was buoyed a bit by both a strand rate (84.9%) and opponents’ batting average on balls in play (.259) that might be tough to maintain. Yet it’s not as if Bednar’s success was a complete fluke. He struck out 32.5% of batters faced while walking only 8%. That’s a strong combination of punch outs and control, as the 24.5 point gap between his strikeout and walk percentages ranked 15th among the 138 relievers with 50+ innings pitched. His ERA checked in 17th among that group, while his 2.92 SIERA ranked 19th.

In addition to those strong results, Bednar boasts the kind of power stuff teams love in the late innings. His fastball averaged just shy of 97 MPH, according to Statcast, a personal high over his three MLB seasons. He backed that up with a solid splitter and a curveball against which batters made contact only a bit more than half the time they swung. Behind that three-pitch arsenal, Bednar generated whiffs on 15.5% of his offerings. That’s nearly four points higher than the 11.7% league average for bullpen arms, ranking 18th among those with 50 or more frames.

The Pirates certainly don’t have to trade Bednar this winter. The 2021 campaign was his first full season as a big leaguer, and he remains under team control through 2026. That includes the next two seasons at pre-arbitration salaries, making the right-hander an affordable option for the Bucs’ relief corps. (Alterations to the service time structure in the next collective bargaining agreement could affect that timeline, of course, although he’d come with at least two years of remaining control under any system that has thus far been reported to be under consideration in CBA talks).

That said, relief pitching can be volatile. Because Bednar didn’t settle into a big league bullpen until he was already 26, he’ll likely be 28 or 29 years old by the time the Pirates can reasonably expect to contend. Even if they don’t need to actively shop Bednar, the front office could be willing to pull the trigger on a deal if another team put enough young talent on the table.

There’s comparatively more urgency for the Bucs to trade Stratton. The righty is already 31 years old and has four-plus years of service under his belt. Without changes to the service time setup, he’d be controllable another two seasons via arbitration. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects Stratton for a salary in the $2.2MM range for the upcoming season.

Stratton wouldn’t bring back as strong a return as Bednar could. Not only does he come with less remaining club control, he’s not as dominant. Yet Stratton is coming off a nice season of his own, his second straight solid year. He absorbed 79 1/3 innings of 3.63 ERA ball in 2021, posting capable strikeout and walk numbers (25.5% and 9.8%, respectively). That came on the back of a 12.4% swinging strike rate, his second consecutive season with better than average swing-and-miss numbers.

Going back to the start of 2020, Stratton owns a 3.70 ERA/3.61 FIP over 109 1/3 frames of relief. That’s come with above-average strikeout and swinging strike rates and roughly league average control. Opposing hitters own a .232/.306/.363 line against him in that time. Stratton isn’t an impact piece, but he’s a solid reliever who’d upgrade the middle or late innings for plenty of more immediate contenders around the league. Pittsburgh wouldn’t bring back a franchise-altering return, but his solid two-year run should allow the front office to recoup a mid-tier prospect on the trade market.

Stratton looks likelier of the Pirates’ top two relievers to wind up elsewhere over the next few months, but a Bednar move would involve a more significant return. It stands to reason teams will call the Pirates to gauge the asking price on both hurlers. Moving one or both of Bednar and Stratton could serve as the Bucs’ next step in their continued efforts to strengthen the farm system in anticipation of a contention window a few years down the road.

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  1. bmcferren

    4 years ago

    Stratton for Alejandro Kirk

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    • bigdaddyt

      4 years ago

      Sorry a reliever isn’t worth a really good prospect catcher

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      • mlb1225

        4 years ago

        A high-end reliever? Yes, but definitley not Stratton. He’s not bad, but he’s definitley not worth anything near Kirk.

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        • tstats

          4 years ago

          Bednar and Stratton for Kirk

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        • kodion

          4 years ago

          If Cherington would think of taking Kirk for Bednar, would that be fair?

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          Could be fair but I don’t see him thinking of doing it. They have a catcher for this season. BC right now wants pitcher development and framing over offense. After that some prospects should be getting close. My guess is he would prefer high upside non mlb ready talent. If Toronto thinks Kirk is of equal value as Bednar then he will be their starting catcher.

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  2. mlb1225

    4 years ago

    Hell nah. Bednar isn’t going anywhere. He isn’t even arbitration eligible and he was a rookie last year. Stratton on the other hand, yeah I could see it. He’s an okay reliever, but nothing phenominal.

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    • User 1471943197

      4 years ago

      Yes bednar is the closer for years to come…the writer of this article is out of date

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      • bucsfan0004

        4 years ago

        Cederline is the future closer.

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        • Robertowannabe

          4 years ago

          Cederlind has to show that he is healthy and consistently get guys out at the higher levels before we assume that he will be a future closer. Had the ability prior to his TJ surgery but not near the experience. Only 55.2 innings at AA or higher since 2019. (only 6 in AAA in 2019 and 4 in the bigs in 2020)
          Bednar is not going anywhere any time soon.

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    • ElGaupo77

      4 years ago

      Relievers break

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    • Treehouse22

      4 years ago

      Trading Bednar would constitute criminal negligence on the part of Pirates ownership/management, given that Bednar is under team control thru 2023 and arbitration eligible 2024 thru 2026. Surely the team figures to start being competitive prior to that. This guy gives the Bucs a quality 8th/9th inning guy. Let’s keep him, please.

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      • JohhnyBets67

        4 years ago

        The thought is that relievers are volatile. Cherington knows this. Look at what guys like Kimbrel brought back. He went to Chicago and wasn’t very effective. 3 months of Kendall Graveman landed the Mariners 4 years of Abraham Toro.

        Few relievers are dominant year after year. Bednar has the skills to be one of those guys but Cherington could cash him out if there’s some interesting prospects coming back. The Pirates need a lot of pitching to return to contention.

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        • Treehouse22

          4 years ago

          The Bucs do need a lot of pitching to return to contention, but trading away pitching is not the best way to get there, IMO. If they trade him and get a quality starter, I’d say go for it. With the staff the Bucs now have, however; a quality reliever is a valuable commodity

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  3. YourDreamGM

    4 years ago

    Reynolds and Hayes are available. Just no team is willing to pay the price. Bednar would have similar problem. Stratton was available at deadline and nobody offered enough. Unlikely they would offer more now. He will be moved at deadline if healthy.

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    • Cosmo2

      4 years ago

      Would be really dumb to trade either one. Can’t rebuild forever, can’t concede to losing forever.

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      • poppopts

        4 years ago

        You’re talking about the Pirates here. Yeah, they can, and will rebuild forever!

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        • Cosmo2

          4 years ago

          Heh, well maybe I should’ve said “shouldn’t”. But I think they are finally moving forward.

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      • JoeBrady

        4 years ago

        can’t concede to losing forever.
        ===========================
        I agree. I think small market teams almost have to occasionally tank, but if handled properly, that should be a 3-year job. After, three years, if your GM hasn’t accumulated enough talent via high draft choices, and trading off whatever was left from their previous run, then get a new GM.

        But sometimes, like Detroit and Seattle this year, you have to make a move.

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        • JohhnyBets67

          4 years ago

          @Joe

          I think that a blanket 3 year statement is a little crazy. All rebuild jobs aren’t created equal. Cherington inherited a mess. He’s done a great job of acquiring talent but that team does not have enough to compete in the next 2 years. A lot of his acquisitions have been guys further away.

          2024 I could see the Pirates competing in the central and I don’t think that means Cherington did poorly.

          When the previous GM gives away Glasnow, Meadows, and Baz—you certainly are starting way behind the 8 ball.

          His trades have been great thus far. Marte/Musgrove/Taillon deals have the potential to be very good. Bednar has already come through.

          Id rather have my GM take another year or two to get it right vs. saying “oh man we’ve been bad for 3 years we need to be competitive right now” and you wind up with the Texas Rangers. Or the Cincinnati Reds. If the Reds hadn’t tried to compete too early I really think that team could’ve made a solid run.

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        • JohhnyBets67

          4 years ago

          I think the Tigers and the Mariners took big steps last year and have their prospects coming. That situation is far different than that of the Pirates, Rangers, Orioles.

          Tigers haven’t really thrown a ton of money out there long term either. E-Rod and Javy are LT deals but they have 2 year opt outs. Which I don’t love for that team. If it goes well—those are ST deals. Even if not that’s about 40MM on the payroll LT. Not that crazy.

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    • User 1471943197

      4 years ago

      Reynolds isnt going anywhere..period..case closed

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    • joew

      4 years ago

      Everyone on every team is available if anyone wants to over pay.

      You give the pirates a handful of top prospects for either one no doubt they would listen. No way they should be actively shopped.

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  4. JerryBird

    4 years ago

    Reynolds and Hayes will be traded. Pittsburgh is in an endless loop of trading their blossoming prospects for other teams possible prospects. Once a proud franchise, now a decades long bottom feeder. Very sad.

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    • I speak the truth

      4 years ago

      I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. But have your opinion.

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      • JerryBird

        4 years ago

        Hey Truth, so exactly what have the Pirates done in the past 25 years to make a winning effort? Not an opinion, just telling it like it is.

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        • Skeptical

          4 years ago

          Do you even follow baseball? The Pirates had their window in 2013 to 2015 when they made the playoffs Unfortunately for them during that period, the Cards were exceptionally strong. Second best record for MLB in 2015. They tried to extend that window with foolish trades which delayed a real rebuild. They’ve restocked the farm system and, if they have improved their played development (especially the development of pitchers were they were real weak), they have another window roughly in 2023-2025.

          Sad, how many posters spew a narrative not connected to the evidence.

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        • Cosmo2

          4 years ago

          To be fair, I myself was baffled by the Pirates inaction in those off seasons during that window. They were good, but did very little signing/transaction-wise in order to improve.

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    • mlb1225

      4 years ago

      The only player I can think of that was considered a core part of the Pirates when there was actual hope they could be good was Gerrit Cole.

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      • joew

        4 years ago

        if we are talking play off runs… AJ and Russell. IMO those two are what made the team. no disrespect to Cutch or others but they are/were leaders. Thats why I would love to see them on the coaching staff.

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    • User 1471943197

      4 years ago

      Jerry bird..just another troll pirate basher…your an idiot

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      • JerryBird

        4 years ago

        Hey Ghost, so exactly what have the Pirates done in the past 25 years to make a winning effort? Not a basher, just an idiot telling it like it is.

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        • bucsfan0004

          4 years ago

          You nailed the idiot part. I’m sure both said players will be traded, Reynolds maybe in the next 1-2 yrs, Hayes maybe in 4 yrs. What’s your point? Other than trolling. Just go away.

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        • JerryBird

          4 years ago

          At least you agree in all areas. Articles like this are unnecessary because everyone already knows the fate of all young Pirates’ players. The author should sign “Reported by Captain Obvious”.

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        • Cosmo2

          4 years ago

          JerryBird, I think you’re wrong, and you are stating your incorrect opinion not only as fact, but then calling the article unnecessary… kind of over the top… you’re making a flawed prediction as if you’re psychic

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    • bucincharlotte

      4 years ago

      The only thing this team can do as long as teams have 250 mil plus payrolls is shoot god .500 unless you tank and gather prospects and try for a 2-3 year lottery ticket run.
      Similar to KC, Houston and Tampa

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      • Cosmo2

        4 years ago

        Or follow the Rays’ model of success. Tanking doesn’t help you draft in this sport anyway as draft position means very little

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      • JohhnyBets67

        4 years ago

        Houston has been in the ALDS at least for the last 5 years?

        Wouldn’t include them in that 2 year run. They also run out a pretty decent payroll but not quite of a huge market team. They definitely aren’t running a small market club payroll.

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  5. rhswanzey

    4 years ago

    Pittsburgh would be nuts to move a late inning reliever with that much control left after this past year’s trade deadline. That is, what is the upside to doing it in December instead of July 29th?

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    • ElGaupo77

      4 years ago

      Relievers break

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  6. HalosHeavenJJ

    4 years ago

    Stratton. Yet another guy who got better after leaving the Angels.

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    • mlb1225

      4 years ago

      Angles could afford him back. Doubt the Pirates have that high of a price tag on him. He’s a solid reliever who can give 60-80 innings out of the pen and a 3.50-3.70 ERA. By no means is he lights out dominant, but a solid 6th-to-7th inning arm.

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      • bucsfan0004

        4 years ago

        Stratton is a guy who had a good run to end the year last year. If anyone was mildly interested in him, he’d already be gone.

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        • mlb1225

          4 years ago

          Stratton didn’t really end the year on a high note. 4.74 ERA in the final two months of the season. Still, I doubt there was much interest, if any. Even if there was mild interest, the Pirates really had no reason to hold on to see if they could get more. If they trade him, they trade him. If they don’t, they don’t. He’s not a bullpen-changing arm. Just a solid RHP that you can rely on for many innings a season.

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        • bucsfan0004

          4 years ago

          Be careful with those stats…., he had two bad outings where he was pitching mop-up games in blowouts, which skews your ERA stat. His numbers were superb otherwise, especially when used as 8th inning guy/closer.

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  7. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    The idea is to trade for a Pirates reliever at the deadline and then leave him off all of your postseason rosters. The Braves executed this to perfection.

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  8. Baseball 1600

    4 years ago

    Strattons curveball always impressed me when he was a Giant

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    • biffpocoroba

      4 years ago

      It does make you wonder what the Giants’ current coaching regime could do with him.

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  9. awawra

    4 years ago

    Particularly Bednar, if the Pirates are going to move him, 2-3 months as the closer should increase his value. Silly to sell now, controllable and the value should only go up. I think they should keep him but if you’re he’ll bent on selling him, let his value go up first.

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  10. sch1989 2

    4 years ago

    Bednar will not be moved. Stratton very well can be moved. I think he could bring in a decent piece. Similar to the RichRod trade.

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    • 48-team MLB

      4 years ago

      @sch1989 2 It remains to be seen whether or not Ricky Devito is going to become something or not but Bryse Wilson is garbage.

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      • User 1471943197

        4 years ago

        48 team idiot….what are your facts about Wilson being garbage…I don’t think you have any…it’s obvious that you haven’ a clue..just another trolling garbage man

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        • 48-team MLB

          4 years ago

          I’m a Braves fan. I watched Bryse Wilson pitch like absolute garbage over and over again aside from that one fluke game during the NLCS in the fake 2020 season with 25 percent capacity at a neutral site.

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  11. ronnsnow

    4 years ago

    Pirates acquired Bednar in the Musgrove trade. There’s no way Cherington is looking to move him already. Hes part of the rebuild.

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    • ElGaupo77

      4 years ago

      Relievers break. Don’t get attached. Trade high, buy low

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  12. DonOsbourne

    4 years ago

    Pittsburg should trade Stratton to the Cardinals. His numbers would improve by virtue of being able to face the Pirates several times a year. The Cardinals would probably consider moving Knizner.

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    • User 1471943197

      4 years ago

      Hey Osbourne it’s Pittsburgh with an h you irrelevant idiot

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  13. Never Remember

    4 years ago

    Failure to trade Bednar will be looked upon as a failure once his one good season is recognized as a fluke. Should never get attached to to relievers unless they are top line dominant as the rest are too volatile and easily replaced.

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    • jtkuch

      4 years ago

      Please elaborate how you know for a fact he’s a fluke after one year? Or are you just blowing it out your you-know-what trying to sound like the smartest guy in the room?

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  14. jtkuch

    4 years ago

    Not worth moving Bednar at this point, at least for what they’d likely get back. 5 years of a potential stud closer, who’s a local kid that comes out of the pen to Renegade, is worth more to the team than the jumble of prospects he’d net at this point.

    Stratton should absolutely be moved, though. I wanted him moved at this past deadline. Any team could find good use in a reliable middle reliever.

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    • RunDMC

      4 years ago

      Depends on how much you trust Cherington and his scouts to ID the right prospects needed for a rebuild. Tough for a young RP to showcase while playing from behind in non-save situations all the time. I’m not saying trade him, but every year there’s a rush for bullpen help and premium prices are set with young guys with control that can make instant impacts for playoff teams — so why not set a lofty price and see who bites, not unlike Reynolds (i.e. receiving “big-time offers” from ATL/MIL in July ’21, according to reports)?

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      • jtkuch

        4 years ago

        Because the rebuild needs to stop at some point. If I was confident in Cherington’s ability to scout prospect talent, I’d be more than confident in the state of the farm system given the massive hoard of prospects he’s added the past ~2 years.

        Bednar is under team control for 5 more years, Reynolds 4, Hayes 5. Just keep those guys as your building blocks.

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  15. PutPeteinthehall

    4 years ago

    They were in the 2015 wildcard game. However it does appear it will be a very long time before ever making the playoffs again.

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    • PiratesFan1981

      4 years ago

      By 2025 they will be playoff contenders again. The system is catching up quickly enough and should start seeing some more AAA prospects over the summer. Mason Martin, O’Neil, Swaggerty (reminds me of Andy VanSlyke), Henry, and more should be in the majors sometime this year. Henry maybe the likeliest option to be up next summer though. The 2022 season will definitely show where this system is at. Pirates lost 3-4 players in the Rule V draft this year. They lost 2 pitchers and a OF/DH hitter (but can’t make it past AA ball) Jonah Davis (now Cardinal). Last year or even two years ago, no one would touch the system. The Pirates are close to Top 10 system throughout the league. After Huntington departure, the system was 28th overall. That is one heck of an achievement in 2 years the with new GM. He’s only drafted twice and did a lot of dealing to many dislikes. Ben Cherington rebuilt and continues to rebuild the system. I really expect by 2025 a playoff run. Only thing the Pirates haven’t done yet is, getting a future Ace through draft or trade. Keller will be at best #2 pitcher. I see him in mid-rotation starter. I look forward to baseball resuming and what Ben does going into the summer. I do see Stratton, Newman, and maybe another pitcher being moved before the season starts (if it does) on time.

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      • rond-2

        4 years ago

        I believe the Pirates see ’23 as a possible playoff contender.

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        • bucsfan0004

          4 years ago

          Not without pitching/starting pitching, which they still need a ton of. I’ll split the difference between you and PF1981 and say 2024.

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        • rond-2

          4 years ago

          Sounds good. I’m liking what Ben is doing, Pirate fans should get ready for some good teams ahead. I would like to see Sonny Gray come to the Bucs, but I doubt that will happen being the Reds are in the same division.

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      • 48-team MLB

        4 years ago

        As long as my Braves win more titles, I’d be okay with a Pirates title thrown in somewhere.

        Honestly I have no issue with any of the NL Central teams winning a title except for St. Louis. They have enough titles already.

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      • YourDreamGM

        4 years ago

        2022 isn’t going to show much. The real talent is in A ball and AA. They think so much of Martin they didn’t add him to 40 man. If Contreras doesn’t end up having TJ and they have 3 other starters almost, as good, or better then they will be a playoff team. I don’t see those starters on the 40 man. I don’t see them buying them in free agency. 2024 at the earliest.

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        • PiratesFan1981

          4 years ago

          How can you say most of their top talent is in AA or lower? Are you going on pre-rankings? New talent is always rated higher than consistently growing prospects within the system. Mason Martin will be up no later than next year if not this year. Oneil Cruz, Gonzales, Swaggerty, Marcano, Bae, and Mlodzinksi will all be up with the Pirates this year. Newman is traded to make room for Cruz, Gonzales, and Bae to play the middle infield. Bae or Cruz could see playing time in RF as well. The next wave to show up next year, is not as exciting as what’s sitting down in AAA this past year. Some saw MLB time this year. Swaggerty reminds me of Andy VanSlyke in the OF. I feel real good about Reynolds and Swaggerty (potential gold glove) out there. You add Hayes 3B with Cruz/Bae at SS and Gonzales/Bae at 2nd, defense look good for any young pitching arm coming up. Contreras and Mlodzinksi should appreciate those guys behind them. Add Mason Martin when the Tsutsuga (whatever his name is) experiment is over. There is a reason why they signed him for one year. Martin is coming and quickly

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          Because it is. Was Gonzales Mlodzinksi not at A ball and probably AA this year? Cruz has potential. Rest of the players you mentioned I don’t expect anything special. Maybe Swaggertys bat develops. Marcano looks like a utility player. Bae needs to get the ball off the ground. Martin needs a lot better bat to ball. They think so little of Martin they didn’t even protect him. The reason they signed Yoshi for just 1 year has absolutely nothing to do with Martin. Any prospect has a chance and I hope they improve. I don’t think Cherington is considering these guys top talent.

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  16. tiredolddude

    4 years ago

    Bednar is a local boy and already a fan favorite. Given his obvious talent, you’d think he was in the same category as Reynolds and Hayes. At least I’d hope so. That said, it’s funny that some want to lay this all at the feet of the previous management. These were the people who built a nice team around Cutch and company for three years. Somehow, they suddenly lost the touch and alternately destroyed the minor league system, brought in subpar scouts and instructors, and allowed the vets who were here during that time to leave or traded them away? Hard to fathom that the ownership group didn’t play a role in all of that. And that’s my only problem with where we are now. Cherington has done marvelous work in stocking the minor leagues and enhancing the abilities of those kids. He’s gotten value for the few MLB players via trades. But the disturbing fact is that the same ownership remains. The idea that they have reversed course to embracing the construction of a competitive team that has a pipeline in place over the idea of profits and more profits, that they have yielded to both fan and media outrage when they never cared before, is well, almost unbelievable. Guess we shall see. But if the scattershot idea to trade Reynolds, or Hayes, or even Bednar ever comes to fruition, then all of the efforts Cherington has put in can be seen for what it is; a never ending rebuild

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    • DonOsbourne

      4 years ago

      This seems like a pretty fair assessment to an outsider like myself. I have said before that I don’t buy the small market blues in regard to the Pirates. Pittsburgh is a passionate sports town. They will support a winner. They have a great stadium, a successful history, and natural regional rivalries. The Pirates should be able to compete the way the Cardinals compete if they had a owner who was interested in trying.

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      • YourDreamGM

        4 years ago

        Cardinals don’t have NFL team in City. Double the local tv revenue. And a million extra tickets sold per year.

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        • DonOsbourne

          4 years ago

          They had an NFL team pretty recently. Are your figures exact or just estimates? I doubt the Rams cost the Cardinals a million tickets a year even during the Greatest Show on Turf years.

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        • Cosmo2

          4 years ago

          Double local TV revenue because no NFL team? Umm, it doesn’t remotely work like that

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          Never said it did.

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          All that information is easy to find for anyone interested.

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    • Samuel

      4 years ago

      Like where the Blue Jays are?

      Cherington was instrumental in finding and developing their young core.

      He got screwed in Boston – ownership and execs were making the big moves which he was blamed for. He did extremely well in Toronto as farm director. He’s been working with the Pirates staff. Might as well give him a chance…….ownership is.

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  17. 48-team MLB

    4 years ago

    Pirates over SPIDERS in 2035

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    • Robertowannabe

      4 years ago

      Did you happen to take the DeLorean for a spin to get that info?? 🙂

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      • 48-team MLB

        4 years ago

        Next 10 years…

        2022: Giants over Blue Jays

        2023: Dodgers over Rays

        2024: Braves over White Sox

        2025: Red Sox over Padres

        2026: White Sox over Marlins

        2027: Yankees over Brewers

        2028: Cubs over Athletics

        2029: Yankees over Giants

        2030: Braves over Angels

        2031: Cardinals over Orioles

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        • dsett75

          4 years ago

          You must’ve went to an alternate timeline, like the one where Biff ruled because the Tigers should be in those results at least twice.

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        • bucsfan0004

          4 years ago

          Boring predictions. What year does Nashville make the WS? Charlotte? Montreal? Las Vegas? You have 48 teams to choose from

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        • 48-team MLB

          4 years ago

          I have the Nationals defeating the Oklahoma City Red Wolves in 2054.

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        • User 1471943197

          4 years ago

          You need to get out of the basement and get o air

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  18. dsett75

    4 years ago

    Stratton to Detroit for Joe Jimenez & maybe another lower minor leaguer.

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    • YourDreamGM

      4 years ago

      Why would the Pirates want Joe Jimenez for Stratton?

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      • dsett75

        4 years ago

        Leave me alone and let me dream, lol. I just wish Detroit would get rid of him and besides, I said throw in another minor leaguer. RP’s are fickle. Stratton won’t fetch a top prospect, imho. Jimenez is still young and was supposed to be the closer of the future not too long ago, but is too inconsistent. Maybe a change of scenery will help?

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        • YourDreamGM

          4 years ago

          You said maybe another prospect. Would definitely need a prospect. Wouldn’t even need JJ. Just a upside prospect. JJ just needs someone to figure out his control. If he was pre arb the pirates would have more interest.

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  19. joblo

    4 years ago

    Trade Bernard to San Francisco for his brother.

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    • joblo

      4 years ago

      Bednar, not Bernard.

      Reply
  20. JR513

    4 years ago

    Pirates won’t have enough talent until 2027 if even then they need to trade Reynolds and Hayes too it’s not like the pirates can afford them . They need more prospects not major league talent

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    • PiratesFan1981

      4 years ago

      They have plenty of talent within the system right now. It’s eye opening if you just do it. I am going by 2025 playoff run, but an earlier push can happen. I say 2025 the latest. Pirates need a Ace similar to what Cole was set to be. The wave of talent coming to the majors during 2022 season, is just the first layer. Then 2023 is the final layer to be competitive. Henry and Preister should be up in 2023. Playoff contention we’ll be pieces coming up after 2024 season. I think the Pirates move Reynolds by then and gives the Pirates pieces they need to send them in the playoffs in 2025.

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      • JohhnyBets67

        4 years ago

        You’re a realistic man Piratesfan.

        Not everyone is around here. It’s mostly homers who think their rebuild will take no time at all or haters who will tell you the organization is just garbage.

        Nice to see something realistic.

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    • User 1471943197

      4 years ago

      JR is just what his name says..a JR moron..they have one of the best farm systems..you shouldn’t post what you don’t know anything about… idiotic post by a irrelevant moron

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    • Treehouse22

      4 years ago

      Great strategy. Trade everyone who begins to demonstrate major league talent for more prospects, then when they show signs of being talented, trade them for more prospects, and as soon as some of those guys start looking like the real deal, trade them for some prospects. After that, trade the best of those guys for some prospects and when some of those guys pan out, trade them…….

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    • Cosmo2

      4 years ago

      JR, you are dead wrong, way off. Just no.

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