TODAY: Story has “multiple new suitors” as of this morning, per Jon Heyman of the MLB Network (via Twitter). The Twins’ signing of Carlos Correa last night could certainly prompt some new conversations now that Story is the last of the big names on the market. Along with the Giants and Red Sox, Heyman names the Rangers, Astros, and Yankees as teams who have potentially opened up conversations with Story.
Heyman adds a few other notes, saying that Story still prefers to play shortstop, though he’s said to be open to a position change. He is also open to a short-term deal in the vein of the one signed by Correa, tweets Heyman.
5:37pm: Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic tweets that the Red Sox are indeed “firmly” involved in the running for Story.
1:05pm: Free-agent shortstop Trevor Story is mulling opportunities with four teams and expects to make a decision relatively soon, tweets MLB Network’s Jon Heyman. Both the Giants and Red Sox are in the mix for Story, per Heyman, who notes that the longtime Rockies shortstop is now open to a “short-term” position change, if necessary. That’s a departure from earlier in the winter, when his strong preference was to remain at shortstop. Heyman adds that Story is prioritizing signing with a win-now team.
It’s not clear which other clubs remain in the market, though the Twins and Mariners are among the clubs that have expressed interest throughout the offseason. Minnesota’s interest came to light earlier in the week, after the Twins succeeded in unloading the remainder of Josh Donaldson’s contract in a trade with the Yankees (another rumored Story suitor earlier this winter). The Twins could offer a clear everyday role at shortstop, but if Story is prioritizing a winning club, it’s a bit of a tougher sell for a 73-win Twins club — even if they’ve acquired Sonny Gray and made some other moves signaling a desire to contend in 2022.
The Mariners, meanwhile, hoped to sign Story to play second base earlier in the winter. With Story then apparently set on sticking at shortstop, the M’s acquired Eugenio Suarez alongside Jesse Winker in a deal with the Reds. Suarez and fellow offseason trade acquisition Adam Frazier appear set to man third base and second base, respectively, though ever-active Mariners president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto could always look for some further dealings to create more opportunity if he indeed covets Story.
It should be noted that while the words “short-term” don’t necessarily mean that Story is open to a short-term deal just yet. For instance, the general expectation is that Red Sox shortstop Xander Bogaerts will opt out of the final three years of his contract following the 2022 season. Story could technically sign a long-term deal in Boston, play second base for one season, and then slide over as the everyday shortstop if an when Bogaerts departs. That’s an entirely speculative scenario, to be clear, but one that is fairly easy to envision.
As for the Giants, they’ve generally shown an aversion to long-term, nine-figure contracts. Any deal with Story, then, would either require him to take a short-term pact of require an exception to the Farhan Zaidi-led front office’s philosophy on long-term commitments. Were Story willing to change positions, he could slide in at second base in San Francisco and push Tommy La Stella into a versatile utility role. Depending on Evan Longoria’s health, Story could also conceivably spend some time at the hot corner, teaming with Brandon Crawford to form a dynamic left-side defense.
Heard Correa to Baltimore
Just for the day or the weekend?
@ForLoveoftheGame I laughed pretty hard at that one. Thanks for brightening my day.
Just long enough to get pointers from Chris Davis on how to ink a one sided contract
On March 1, the FanSided Orioles blog floated a Correa signing. The blog has published zero articles since. I assume the blogger was committed against his will to a room without internet access — or windows.
Chros Davis lives on in Matt Carpenter
Chris is home in Texas counting his $$⚾️
Just long enough to get mugged and carjacked … twice! Jajajaja!!!
Nobody on right mind would visit Baltimore ⚾️
If they’re willing to pay the most and all you care about is money, you’ll make the visit.
@Lady1959: People used to say that about the Nationals, until Jayson Werth signed.
Unless you’re talking about the city, not the team.
I loved Baltimore the few times I visited in the early 2000’s. It’s a great and historic city. Good food, good entertainment, and a stylish and fun ballpark.
Not even for an hour.
At least that would make more sense than Bryant to Colorado, but that’s a low bar
I don’t even think Colorado knows what they’re doing smh…
Four Stories & his 7th year, wait….. this speech is starting to sound familiar. Someone needs to warn Trevor not to go to the theatre or sit in a Booth
I have been saying this since before the lockout: Story to the Giants makes so much sense in every way, just as posted in this article. He will move to SS in two years, but in the meantime, he will play plenty of SS, 2b (mostly) and quite a bit of 3b.
The Giants should pay him handsomely for 4-5 years, with an opt out in year 4, 5 or 6. He’ll be a monster in SF. Joc Pederson CANNOT be the only addition to that offense. Sign Story, please!
.689 career OPS in SF. Not exactly screaming for a handsome reward.
He’ll be fine in SF. Like most Rockies players, it takes time to re-acclimate, but most of them do.
Yeah that’s been reported everywhere. If the O’s are actually serious about ending their rebuild, then it makes some sense.
I heard Pittsburgh.
There was a story that the Orioles offered 10 years and $300 million to Correa. Not sure the legitimacy of it but he’s still a free agent so there may not be enough money in the world to get him to go to Baltimore
I heard Tampa Bay.
Not a chance. Story only willing to move off SS “short term” and their best 3 prospects are SSs with one of them projected to be the opening day starter. Nick Gonzales (likely moving to 2B) and Liover Peguero coming on strong right behind Oneil Cruz.
If price is low enough apparently, whatever that means. Still not getting my hopes up, but oh boy would I be excited
Nobody should go to Baltimore unless you gotta do time there.
I love Baltimore’s Inner Harbor, Fells Point, and Little Italy. I hang out there a lot. Isabella’s is the best pizza around.
Yeah, Baltimore isn’t a bad town. Folks who bash it likely haven’t ever left the town they grew up in.
Pizza isn’t worth the risk of getting shot.
i carry a gun so i can shoot back.
“Baltimore isn’t a bad town.”
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I was looking for an apartment there, and asked the real estate how far away the closest bus station was. She said “I don’t know. Nobody ever made it that far”.
I got three sources that says that you’re wrong.
Metsfan22, NoNLCSwithoutbumgarner, and that guy who sits in front of Walmart.
Correa to Baltimore. Sounds like the name of a jazz album.
So much for rumors.
Quite the story there…That will open the market a bit more for him.
Story can go straight to short stop with the Angels.
Angels make the most sense!! Sign Trevor and trade for 1 top of rotation arm. Already built the strongest bullpen in the division/league. Equals win now
I think so too. It’s only one year of salary pain for Moreno with Upton falling off the books at the end of this season. Story and Fletcher up the middle with Rendon at the corner would be one of the best infields in MLB.
Except they have to sign Ohtani to some ungodly long and expensive contract shortly. I doubt they can afford Trout, Rendon, Ohtani and Story
Walsh isn’t no slouch at 1st
I like the additions the Angels have made to the bullpen but they are still behind the ChiSox and M’s in that regard. Seattle had one of the top BP last year and will now have Giles returning and a full season of Munoz..
I suddenly like the BP we have as of this week. It comes down to the rotation. I don’t think we’re there yet but we’re close. The other issues I see are as follows:
LF – Upton is lazy on D and lost at the plate with an occasional dinger that keeps some people thinking he’s great.
SS – Obviously
RF – If Adell is our starter, I think we will have issues there. Hopefully he isn’t.
Rotation – Obviously again.
“RF – If Adell is our starter, I think we will have issues there. Hopefully he isn’t.”
Whatever.
Halo11 – Don’t “whatever” me! Adell was horrible in his debut. He then went back to AAA and had a ridiculous strike out rate among other issues. Did he make improvements that you know of to suggest he is now MLB ready? I don’t know the answer so it’s a legit question.
Upton’s lazy? He basically suffered a season ending injury crashing into a wall in a SPRING TRAINING GAME!
Adell? Just about everyone who evaluates talent loves him. Just for example, the people who draft players in fantasy have Adell going 100 picks higher than Marsh. You think those people don’t break down players? They have forgotten more about player evaluations than you or I will ever know.
He’s drastically cut down his strike out rate. It’s constantly improving as the year progresses, which speaks volumes to the kind of player he is. He’s not going to be good because of his strikeoute rate? Whatever.
Last year Marsh’s K rate 35%. Adel’s dropped throughout the year and ended up at 22%
Halo – Based on my eyes, Upton is lazy on defense, lazy running to first and lost at the plate with an occasional dinger. Dude is a .262 career hitter and hasn’t hit above .215 for us since 2018. He’s been out injured a lot too. You can’t blame his low numbers on that because he wasn’t playing injured. For some reason he has been way overhyped and that’s why we are paying him $28m to stink up our LF position.
As for Adell, you didn’t address my question at all. I don’t care what the evaluators say because what they say about a prospect often does not translate to MLB. I trust my own eyes, and what I saw in his debut 2 years ago was embarrassing. Again, if he made improvements in AAA to suggest he has turned a corner and is now MLB ready, great. I know we had this debate last year and you mentioned his homeruns shot up in AAA. Great. His AAA numbers at a glance looked good just now. But again, is he MLB ready? We will see.
(I hit submit before I saw your edits.)
Prov-With the Angels lineup they can afford to have Adell in RF and take some lumps. Gotta see what he can do. Might as well be now.
I’d go with that Leach. But if he can bring us a good starter in a trade, I’d be good with that too.
He can also learn from Trout, Rendon, et al. So I’m not saying he’s a lost cause. We need what we need and we have to give to get.
Halo, you’re probably the worst homer on here. If you don’t think Upton is lazy, you don’t watch him. He’s been lazy since he was in Atlanta. He drove me crazy out there. He’s also lazy on the bases.
Because I don’t think a player is lazy I’m a homer? I remember defending GA. He got the same lazy comments. I think very very very few players who have played this game 10 years and have 300 Home Runs are lazy.
I think your analysis is lazy.
Trout was also atrocious in his debut. If Adell ends up being half the player Trout is (and I believe he is much better than that) consider yourself very lucky.
Not that it matters much, but Adell started the scoring for the game today with a home run…
I agree but I would wait to trade for a rotation arm until mid season to see how everything shakes out.
Hopefully that trade includes Upton.
Unless it’s a pillow contract, just say no to Story. I think the opportunities to grab a useful shortstop are almost over.
I know people love spending other people’s money, but the Angels are going to get killed in arbitration next year and they have to secure Ohtani.
Upton’s contract is already spent.
Not that this is accurate, but baseball reference has them spending 30 million more on arbitration next year than this year. That’s a good rough estimate.
Nobody will take Upton’s contract right now. He will either rebound (10% shot) or be the next high salaried player released by the Angels (90% shot).
What top rotation arm is available for the Angels usual suspects of Adel/Marsh?
These people who want to trade Adell are crazy.
Call me crazy but I would trade Adell. I wouldn’t trade Marsh.
I will call you crazy !!!!
You talk Adell’s strikeout rate.
Last year, Marsh 35%, Ohani 26.9, Trout 28.1, Adell 22.9%
You blow my mind. Adell is intelligent, immensely talented and coachable.
Ha! Adell was in the minors. Those other three are MLB players. I’m not saying I don’t like the kid. What I’m saying now and have always said is he is not MLB ready so he is not ready to contribute now. We need pitching now. I believe one path to get there is to trade Adell to a team who can be patient in the outfield for a pitcher who can help us now.
That’s at the major league level.
Feel foolish yet? I hope you do. Someone who is embarrassed learns more quickly than the proud. My guess is you are going to take the proud route. I hope I’m wrong.
To not like Adell because you think he strikes out too much is ignorant. 1) It’s not that big of a deal. 2) Out of the 17 Angels with 100 plate appearances, Adell ranked 10th. Marsh 1st, Ohtani 3rd, Trout 5th.
I think we are darn lucky no one in this organization traded Adell. It may be Perry’s best move. Enjoy him over the next five years, he’s going to get a huge contract, after that, and is most likely gone. Will you hate him more or less in a Dodger or Yankee uniform?
I like you Halo11. Your arrogance and condescending comments are always a pleasure.
To answer your high school level question, no, I don’t feel foolish. I enjoy the debate. However, I avoid personal attacks and respect the fact that you have a different opinion.
2021:
Adell – 140 plate appearances in the majors with 32 strike outs
339 plate appearances in the minors with 99 strike outs
That’s a 27.3% strike out rate in total for 2021 with most of his plate appearances in the minors at 29.2%.
Ohtani – 639 plate appearances with 189 strike outs
Trout – 146 plate appearances with 41 strike outs
Marsh – 260 plate appearances with 91 strike outs
Of course, as you say, strike out rate is not the only stat on which to rate a player. As I said, I hope he has turned the corner and can contribute.
“Will you hate him more or less in a Dodger or Yankee uniform?” Remember when I said that one time just now that I’m not saying I don’t like the kid?
I didn’t think you would feel foolish for making a claim that was absurd.
Why would you?
Nice HR by Adell, don’t you think.
Cincinnati’s Castillo and Mahle. Reds are obviously tearing down. Angels need SP more than a SS.
Halo11Fan7 hours ago
These people who want to trade Adell are crazy.
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Since I’ve been harsh on the Angels for their inept handling of Adell, it is only fair to acknowledge that he has been playing better, The move two years ago should’ve been to keep him on the minors until he learned to hit AAA pitching. The move now is to tell him he and Marsh are playing all 162 games.
2020 was a weird year. Had there been a AAA year, he either would have developed, or they would have kept him there.
It’s unfair to pay too much attention to 2020. He clearly was not close.
Makes sense. Signing another player who will be paid for previous work somewhere else is exactly what the Angels are good at.
prov356:
While I think the Angels have improved, I don’t think they’re in that “win now” category that Story has as a criterium.
tad – I get it. There are differing opinions about that. I believe they can contend in 2021 so I have a different perspective.
Actually, I agree, I think they can contend, but just that. I don’t see them going very far even if they do make it to the PS. I’m not an Angels fan, but I do have a soft spot for them.
@Billwood mentioned trading for a TOR arm. If they did that first, then I could see Story signing with the Angels. But as currently constructed, especially the rotation, I think Story will want to shoot higher.
Angels aren’t successful until I see it. Their approach is similar to the Mets only they aren’t nearly as rich.
Amogus
How did you pass the age verification
Story is sus?
Did he vent?
Have a hunch it’s the mariners but based on my FA predictions that’s probably not a good thing
I have a funky feeling it’s the angels
Moreno has a serious aversion to the payroll cap.. I doubt he’ll sign Trevor..
2B for SF? Let’s go!
BlueJays’ new 2B-man??
He’s made it clear he still wants to play SS
can’t do that with Boston until at least ’23 so obviously he’s ok with playing 2B for a bit
“He’s made it clear he still wants to play SS”
Did you read the article? It says Story has revised his stance to being open to a short-term position change.
More likely for leverage. But we’ll see
If Story is willing to take a big one year contract from the Jays (similar to Semien last year), I could definitely see it happening. But I don’t think they’re going to commit long term to another infielder, especially after snagging Matt Chapman. The Jays have tons of infield talent both at the major league level and in the minors still. What they really need, in my opinion, is one more good starting pitcher. If they’re willing to take on Moustakas, they may be able to get Mahle or Castillo at a discounted rate. The Reds are clearly prioritizing saving money over anything else, after all.
A short-term position change sounds like the Red Sox situation. We shall see.
I dont know that I buy that. If he is dead set on ending up at SS, is he going to Boston absolutely counting on them not bring back Bogaerts?
And doesn’t that make for a bit of an awkward clubhouse this season?
Yeah, if Boston is so sure they’re going to lose Xander, why not trade him now and sign Story as the replacement?
Because trading Xander would only hurt their chances this season. Story would help push them into legitimate contention. If you just swap out Xander for story they’re in no better of a position
If you swap out Xander for Story you’re in the same position with more assets, and maybe you can get an MLB player back in the trade.
But my real point is, why would they be giving up on the possibility of keeping Xander already? If Story signs there with the expectation of playing 2B for only one year…that just seems odd
If they sign him, I think the message to him would be you’re coming here to play 2nd. If Xander leaves, that could change, but no guarantees. If he signs the contract, his leverage is gone. I think it will come down to whether or not the Sox offer him enough money to not care about a position change.
baseballpun: they would still need a 2B
We still do have Christian Arroyo and Dalbec is training for 2b this spring.
There’s other teams competing for Story, which means the Sox have no chance of getting him. Bloom and company have been feeding BS to the media about “having interest” in virtually every big name player since last year’s trade deadline, but unless the player is injured or cheap he will simply not get acquired by Bloom. Like Tim said, Bloom was hired to run the team with as low a payroll as possible. That’s exactly what he’s been doing for nearly three years now.
Why would you post something like that? Everyone in here knows that the Red Sox have spent to the cap the past two years. Is this some sore of weird propaganda operation or something?
Do you think you are going to convince even one single person that the Red Sox are a low-budget team?
Oh to be a poor red sox fan complaining about pay roll constraints
There is no guarantee that Xander will opt out after this season. Story should realize that and I doubt he will sign with Boston for that reason.
@Fever Pitch Guy I think Story might be the one guy out of the BS we land. Bloom and Cora made it adamant that we need another bat. Story is more affordable than others.
Not positive Bogaerts returns after the season, especially if boras can talk him into going for some kind of market deal instead of another home town discount like Bogey did the last time.
Let’s not forget Devers is a FA after ’23 also. I don’t see both staying long term and 2 of the best prospects are middle infielders in Mayer and Yorke. 2-3y and both SS/2b should be solved for years anyway.
I’d rather have Devers costing 30m AAV over 7y than Bogaerts to tell the truth. Neither is much with the glove, Devers bat is better and he’s 3y younger. If they can hang onto Bogey by just bumping his salary to 22-23m and extending him another cpl years? Sure, but Boras is going to want one of those 200m contracts after this season and Bogey will be a 30yo defensive SS liability to begin with.
Bloom has yet to make any attempt to extend Xander or Raffy, that’s all you need to know. If Xander doesn’t get extended prior to this season, he’s going free agent which means he’s gone. No different than ERod, who was never offered anything more than a QO that everyone knew he would decline.
2023 is the year for Boston. Right now, they have less than $100M committed in payroll for 2023 and I believe that includes the $20M to Xander. The real question is whether or not Boston is willing to exceed the CBT for 2022, knowing they can easily reset in 2023. Given the way ownership has squeezed the payroll lately, it seems unlikely they’ll be willing to do so, but there is a chance they do because 2023 gets them out of CBT jail. I’d give Boston a 50% chance of signing Story this year.
Dorothy, what is your prediction about what the Red Sox will ultimately end up doing with Devers and Bogaerts? I don’t see Bloom spending what it would take to keep them both. Maybe even neither. Devers would obviously bring back a massive package, but I think Sox fans would be pretty pissed if they did that. Most of them are still trying to accept the Mookie trade (even though in my opinion, they ended up making the right move there. Just wish they had gotten a bit better of a return). You usually have solid takes, so I’m interested to hear what you think.
Also I went to the game in Fort Myers today and Bobby Dalbec hit a moon shot. I really hope they hang on to him, he’s my pick for the Sox big breakout player this season. He’ll only be that much more valuable if he learns to play a decent 2B.
Dotty – I can understand putting a stop on the spending in 2020, and I can somewhat understand in 2021 … but three consecutive years under Bloom where they have yet to sign a free agent for more than $14M total contract and have yet to extend anyone for more than $19M total contract?
If their goal is simply to get into the postseason most years like Bloom’s former team has been doing, that’s not gonna fly in Boston … not with the prices they’ve been charging for tickets.
And with Mayer coming by 2024 and Xander not wanting to switch positions, I don’t think Story will be happy playing SS just in 2023.
If the Rangers snag him out of nowhere and stick him at 3B I’d piss myself.
I read yesterday that they offered Seager 3b to come out retirement and play beside his brother.
That would have been pretty cool but apparently his kids are better behaved than Brady’s and hes sticking to retirement
That would be great, who does TX add to rotation, Means, Manaea, Lopez, E Hernandez, or FA in Davies, Pineda, Archer, or T Anderson. What would you think about a trade to Mets for Davis and/or Smith.
I have sources – shh – that tell me the Rangers are pretty much done on offense this off-season, and are now turning their focus to pitching, specifically starting pitching.
Some names I’d throw out would be Pineda, Elieser, and maybe Kaprelian. Not that those guys are rumored to come here, but I really don’t see a big SP acquisition coming soon.
If I am Story and I am fully aware my market is being depressed by worries that my Colorado stats aren’t going to translate, I am avoiding poor offensive environments like Seattle, SF and MN. Short term high AAV deal in Boston makes sense.
Oracle plays different after the dimension changes.
It also plays pretty neutral for right handed hitters.
Oracle is also different due to closed arcade viewing area. That one may disappear. I’d hope they put in plexiglass to keep the carry to right. Dont we all need more splash hits in our life?
That’s a great point
SF won 107 games with a “poor offensive environment “ last year
The Giants will be good but they’re not winning 107 games again. They won’t even win 100. They’re in the 90-95 win range.
48, gfans point did not include a win total prediction. Read better please
78-84
Oddball Hererra:
That’s kind of a fan-perspective take. FOs are looking much more deeply into Story, than just Coors-based counting stats. They know what Story can do and can’t, and they have a value attached to him that isn’t going to change much no matter where he plays.
SF is not a “poor offensive environment.” You’re living in the past:
2021 NATIONAL LEAGUE
Second in Runs per Game (only to Dodgers. 6th in the Majors.)
First in BA. (6th in Majors)
First in HRs. (2nd in Majors)
Second in OBP (to Dodgers. 6th in Majors).
First in Slugging. (4th in Majors)
Oracle may suppress some HRs, but since the fences have been moved, it’s just fine. And, because it has such a large outfield, lots of hits drop in.
@Pete’sView;
You make great points.
Thanks.
Pete:
Besides the bullpens in CF/RC, they closed off of the arcade. The wind doesn’t blow in through the arches anymore. It has changed the wind patterns significantly. IMO that has a bigger impact than the pens.
In 2019 before the changes, Statcast had Oracle with a park factor of 91. In 2020 it was 102, and last season it was 99. With 2020 a short season, we probably need 2 more seasons for a really accurate picture. but clearly Oracle plays much differently.
Minnesota is great for right handed power hitters
Mariners make alot of sense to me, they are on the rise with young talent coming. Story is an upgrade at SS, and they would have no problem moving Crawford.
Trader Jerry, has already said, they have no plans to move Crawford away from SS. Story has made it clear, he wants to be a SS. Besides that, no one will sign with Trader Jerry as the teams GM. Unless he over pays them. Like he over pays like he did with Rey.
How was Ray an overpay? Guy is literally coming off a CY year and 18M less a year than Scherzer
No one expected him to even get 100 million over the length of the contract. The Seattle gives him over 100 million.
MLB Trade Rumors projected Robbie Ray with a five-year, $130 million contract. FanGraphs columnist Ben Clemens projected Ray with a four-year, $112 million contract.
With his five-year, $115 million contract, Ray was among the few free agents to come in under projections.
Please Jerry, Please. We need Story Time in Seattle. He can play 3B this season and then you can worry about who plays SS next year. Story, Crawford or Marte.
Mets to play 3rd. Trade cano to the trash
2B in Boston, move to SS when X opts out next fall
National League
1. Dodgers
2. Braves
3. Brewers
4. Giants
5. Cardinals
6. Padres
American League
1. Blue Jays
2. White Sox
3. Astros
4. Red Sox
5. Rays
6. Yankees
Brewers will absolutely not make it. Youre wrong
Rays are still the team to beat in the AL, Astros stay up there if they keep Correa
Still the team to beat implies the Rays won the AL last year. They did not.
Only 100 win team in the AL while playing 50% of their games vs the AL east.
I’d prefer using that as my measuring stick vs one 7 game series.
Nobody is scared of the White Sox. They aren’t on Houston’s level (or the Blue Jays’ level) – they need to be dropped to the bottom.
@jjdoo2
This is about playoff seeding. The AL Central is awful. Besides, all division winners get a higher seed than the Wild Card teams regardless of record.
Lol 4 teams from AL East all making the playoffs? You must be hiiiiigh
@Marshallx89
The other two AL divisions are pretty weak. Seattle will compete but I don’t think they’re better than any of those teams.
I don’t think the Yankees, Red Sox or even the Rays are going to beat up on the rest of the league that badly.
4 teams in the AL east last year had 90+ wins
Plus this year they will play eachother less and other divisions more. So it’s possible, however improvements from the Tigers, mariners and Angels will def provide more of a challenge to that
Last year the New York Yankees were the only AL East team to have a winning record against AL West teams. AL East teams played NL East teams in interleague play while AL West clubs played the far tougher NL West.
Doesn’t that more-balanced schedule begin in 2023?
The balanced schedule doesn’t start until next year just for the record.
@Marshallx89 Not really. Almost happened last year and it’s doubtful anyone other than division winners elsewhere will make it to the postseason. I can tell you one thing: unless the Guardians click and rake, no one in the Central will go to the postseason except the division winner. Similar out west too- who besides the Astros is good enough to make it? Maybe A’s if they surprise. Mariners got lucky last year… point is, 4 teams from the East is certainly feasible.
I think you’re wrong about the M’s. Luck evens out, at least somewhat, over 162. Plus they definitely improved the roster.
Maybe the A’s? After this off-season? Stevie Wonder has a better chance of winning the Indy 500.
Mrs had a huge negative run differential. They’ve made a few changes but hard to say they right the ship for -100 runs or whatever it was.
Mets and Seattle should be in there
In theory I like the fit with the Red Sox but I have two concerns. One is the Coors Field effect. Story has one of the worst home/road splits among recent Rockies players. Fenway and the AL East in general are very hitter friendly parks, but other former Rockies guys have had issues transferring to other teams. The other concern is I don’t understand why the Sox appear to be planning for life without Bogaerts. He’s one of the most consistent star players in the league and it doesn’t make any sense to me to let him walk and not try to lock him down long term at short. Defensive metrics be damned, I do not buy all the negative reviews of him as a shortstop. Even if he’s an average or slightly below average defender I’m more than comfortable with that if it means keeping that excellent bat in the middle of the order.
Don’t read too much into home/road splits for former Rockies. The ball spins a bit differently at elevation and guys eventually adjust one they get out of Colorado. Look at Arenado, his rate stats were down but his OPS+ and WRC+ were right in line with his career averages. Matt Holliday was Bonds-like at home and a .750-.850 OPS guy on the road when he was a Rockie. Story will be fine as long as he isn’t dealing with the nagging injuries from last year
Bogaerts is not an “average or slightly below average defender”. No matter what defensive metric you look at, he’s clearly a bad defender.
Since 2016, Bogaerts ranked 41st out of 42 at SS with -39 OAA. Only Didi was worse. Fangraphs has him at -55 DRS. That’s not anywhere close to average.
soxsam32 — Certainly worked for the Yankees with Jeter, who was no Ozzie Smith or Omar Vizquel.
Jeter knew what it takes to win that don’t show up in the stats. While his physical talents were not elite, his baseball IQ and determination were beyond anyone else in his era. What impressed me most was when he saw an opportunity to help the team win during a game, he carried it through not trying to do too much. He had faith in his teammates and that set the example for the others to do the same.
There was stories about Story going to St Louis after they got Dickerson.
Saint Louis needs a better shortstop and that lineup with story goldy Arrenado and the up and comers they have in the outfield would be a pretty dang good lineup in a very winnable NL central
Well, there has always been interest on my part as an Orioles fan and a few other fans, but I never heard the Orioles name mentioned once concerning Trevor’s Story heading to Charm City
Although, there have been some rumblings about Carlos Correa, but I think that is ‘Fake’ News!
Would be awesome for the O’s to land Correa.
I won”t cry if it happens, but I can’t believe it will
It’s actually a great idea for Baltimore and Correa to team up. A lot of talent coming through the pipeline. Correa would be able to slide right in and mentor them.
He’s going back to Houston.
@ Pete’sView;
I’ve felt that for at least 2 months now. Believe that’s the best place for him and that’s where he wants to go.
Think he signed Boras to save face. Problem is that Click is an experienced GM and knows the leverage is on his side. It will be interesting how this works out.
Along those lines – I admire Scott Boras’ work. For over 35 years he’s always found leverage. But I think that FO’s have now gotten smarter. They’re not giving in to these silly long-term contracts with the one-way optouts if the player is doing well (so he has to get more money to stay) but gets a handsome salary for years if he’s not. MLB FO’s are not in the insurance business. Star players have been walking out on their fans for decades. The fans have learned to accept that. Consequently, the leverage Boras and others use to box the FO / owner in to resign the star player to unworkable contracts is going away. We saw that in Freddie Freeman this year and Correa. We see the Yankees going in circles due to the bad contracts they gave out. We’ll see it in Bogarts (and others) next year.
Sea change is upon us.
P.S. Steve Cohen is not going to continue the outrageous spending Mets fans believe he will. He’s too smart for that.
I’m not high on him but it’d be an upgrade end of story
Rangers i know do not fit win now mode, but wouldn’t hurt for them check years and price. Ranger fans out there do you think Rangers should pursue trade with Mets for DSmith, and JD Davis or would you rather see them trade for AMeadows from the Jays and either Means from Balt or Manaea from As?
Come on, Giants!
Did Elias draft Correa ? A relationship there ? I’d look it up but busy.
Could be selling “the we built a team from scratch before “.
Correa is a historian. Might like the idea with 10 for 350 lol
Correa in 2 years would join all their top kids, Hays, Mullins, Mountcastle, etc. he fits their puzzle very well
Yes he did. That exactly why I think Baltimore is a real possibility. Offer him a ton of money and to be one of the stars when the prospects start coming up (like Machado when he signed with SD).
come on Cardinals, do something
Headline: After observing Paul DeYong in todays game, they re-evaluate their position and swoop in and sign Story to a lengthy contract to play along side Arenado……. Lol People can wish can’t they? Let PD go!!!
If he signs for around what mlbtr predicted, I hope like crazy Boston goes after him hard. I love Xander but if hes gonna try for something like 28-30m after this year, Boston is probably gonna walk on that.
I would not be shocked if he takes a short term deal
Seems the positional change in sf would be shorter than Boston. Bogaerts may opt out but the Red Sox will resign. Crawford meanwhile is around for two years max and Luciano may not stick at short. I don’t see Farhan giving Story big money though.
I agree with most of what you said, but in this case I think Farhan knows he needs Story’s RH bat.
If precedent holds up, the Giants are going to come up just short on Story and Zaidi will exclaim he gave it the old college try.
I know right. Worst 108 win run team in history
Agreed – I’m sure the SF marketing department is the leak on the Giants being interested.
They always just miss on free agents – let’s be honest I like Zahdi but he was hired to get them to be “competitive” but ultimately get into that 70-80 million dollar a year range for payroll
Look at what’s on the books – after 2023 they are basically at almost zero dollars committed.
Which is why Farhan may “go for it.” Story is a great fit in SF.
I agree Pete. And, I still get to root for Story. If he goes to the Sawx, I’ll have to put him on my “I hope you bat .149 in a good year” grouping. I don’t want to do that.
Exactly. Being a Giants fan during the off season is like being a kid who has super rich parents but takes them back to school shopping at the Goodwill.
Jays should offer a massive 1 year deal and semien this Story guy
Story was worth 3.5 WAR last year, a nice player but far from the 5-6 WAR player he was 3 and 4 years ago.
Jays would be better off using that money on one more high leverage arm for the pen (kimbrel, Jansen) and letting Biggio and espinal split 2b. I’d expect they would both contribute at that same performance level (combined).
If they were going to go after a 1 year deal with a player I’d prefer conforto, opening up the door to trade an OF.
The sleeper teams would be the Cards and Angels. He might sign with higher AAV and opt out after 2 years.
To the Angels 4 year 120mil with opt outs every year.
Getting Twins to up their offer? I hope they take the bait!! Do it!!! Do it do it do it do it !!!!
Angels been quiet … that’s their MO before a deal like this …
At this point the Sox should take Story if they can get him. Lots of money coming off next winter and Bogaerts probably opts out. We need a big bat to helo replace Renfroe/Schwarber
Come on Giants !!
Belt at First
Story at Second
Crawford at Shortstop
Longoria at Third
The defense would be awesome !!!!!
talking baseball — And the Giants wouldn’t lose any defense the days Story takes over for a resting Crawford or Longoria.
Pete,
EXACTLY !!
That defense, plus 3 speedy
guys in the outfield. Yaz, Dugger, Wade, Slater, Jocstrap !!
we would all sh#t green pine tar if he went to Baltimore, but it does make sense for a horrendous team to need something people care about, remember when robinson cano went to Seattle? that never ever made sense nor did it work, esp after 2 failed steroids tests, but in their eyes they were bringing a superstar to a bad smaller market team, they sold jerseys, tickets and knew full well they werent gonna win, they just had to smile and pretend they were good, it ended up being 1 of the worst deals you will ever see, but its good to have that imagination, props to Baltimore, but hey, hes STILL not signed so who knows.
oh and im talking about carlos correa, just an fyi:)
Angels have an obvious need. Story’s bat isn’t great on the road, but his combination of good glove and slightly higher than average bat would be nice here. Can’t count on any of the guys in camp to provide 4 WAR.
A long term contract for Story… I vote no. Not that I have a vote in the process.
I’m probably more worried about the annual value than the length of the contract. He’s young enough to sign for 5 years. However, he’s not worth $30 million per year.
@ the 2 Halos
What max yrs/aav would you guys offer Story – if you would?
3-4 WAR guy should net $20 million per year. That would be my upper limit.
One year in the high 20s. Two years with a player option around 50
Story to SF; play 2nd, SS for off days and tough lefties for Crawford, probably hits righties better than Longoria…the AB’s are there, it all depends on if he wants the challenge of multiple positions.
If it mean making them a stronger team, I’d back Crawford to willingly move.
meant
foppert — Giants would not ask Crawford to move, But Story is a great fit in SF.
Maybe not, but I’d back him to volunteer. He is the new leader.
Great post Kozmos. I was thinking the exact same thing. Heck, at 29, he would likely play more than either Crawford/Longoria–like maybe everyday. Plus, with those 2 getting older, they would benefit from days off. They really don’t have a backup for SS or 3rd. My only issue is Story’s numbers have been awful at Oracle. Giants hitting coaches are pretty successful though. Ruf, Wade, etc have seemingly benefited from that coaching.
Giants will not sign him. SF ownership are the new A’s ownership. I think they let it float that they are in on free agents just to make the fans feel good.
They never even made an offer to Gausman, or Bryant. They don’t want any more contracts on the books. There clear after 2023 of just about everything – their goal is to get into that 40-60 million a year range – that’s why they hire Zahdi
So Pete, neither Gausman nor Bryant contributed enough down the stretch to earn what they signed for. Not offering them enough to sign them makes no sense because 5 years for Gausman wasn’t happening and Bryant’s contract is comical. Explain to me who in their right mind thinks the more we spend the more will win WHEN what you did last year worked. 107 wins? Yeah, difficult to repeat. But it worked so there’s no reason to spend to just spend. The Mets and Rangers and Jay’s and many others have reasons to spend. So they spend. When you concluded your post bashing Zaidi you pretty much proved you’ve been sleeping for 3 years. At least you missed the pandemic
Petefrompp:
So, just because the Giants won’t overpay for a player, they’re cheap? This is the same ownership group that signed Barry Bonds away from the Pirates, and paid him well for the rest of his career. Same one that gave Posey, Crawford, and Belt generous extensions. If anything they’ve been too generous. look at Aubrey Huff.
They were willing to pay Harper $300M. And don’t say their interest was fake. Teams can’t operate like that and then expect players to trust them. Those that claim the interest wasn’t real only say that because it doesn’t fit their argument.
Clearly What Gausman and Bryant got was more than Zaidi felt was their value. If you want to criticize Zaidi, question the signing of Peterson. But, to say it’s all about getting the payroll as low as you say, is off the mark.
petefrompp — This is just wrong in every possible way. A simply ridiculous post.
Giants are in the top 10 of spenders this off season. They just spread the love.
I wouldn’t mind the Braves upgrading at shortstop. Swanson would be a good trade chip to a team that needs a starting SS.
Come on STL. He could be reunited on that left side with Arenado. Let Delong and Dickerson platoon at the DH and give rest to both infield and outfield.
*DeJong
Really hope Blue Jays could get him. Then I’d have 100% trust in our infield. Not sure if it’s one of the teams. Don’t know if he’d play 2B. Sure hope though.
Even with Biggio/Espinal platoon it’s one of the best infields in the league.
If BO can continue his defensive improvements from the second half, it can also be an extremely strong defensive infield as well.
Prioritizing signing with a win-now team?!?
That leaves the Twins out. I’m glad Minnesota freed up all that money and didn’t spend it, though. And nice that they downgraded at every position player in the process.
Makes you wonder why they traded for Sonny Gray, though. I guess just to crush the hopes of their fans and to have a pitcher to trade in July.
I still think the Yankees should’ve signed him. He is exactly the type of player they need with speed/power, defensive acumen, & wants to win. Rotate IKF to UTL and figure out the younger guys IF they come up to the majors. His cost isn’t going to be prohibitive, neither is his contract. And, he wanted to play for them to boot.
If Trevor Story is now “open to a “short-term” position change” and is ” prioritizing signing with a win-now team” the White Sox have no excuse to not be among the four teams interested in him. Reportedly, the White Sox were targeting him at last summer’s trade deadline to replace injured 2B Nick Madrigal but the Rockies ultimately and inexplicably decided to hang on to Story. A report also surfaced recently that Story had a multiyear offer in hand but it was with a team who wanted him to play another position other than SS. That offer and team should now be back in play.
I hope not 865 ks to 266bb not worth the big bucks.
Is that all you’ve got for an argument against Story? He provides plenty of offensive upside to any MLB batting order including a solid White Sox lineup that should have had Nick Madrigal but instead will feature either Josh Harrison or Leury Garcia as we post. That is to so nothing of the defense Story would provide, something that even GM Rick Hahn has said is a priority with the White Sox as they finalize their opening day roster. More pitching and better defense, including any further upgrades at 2B, in RF and perhaps at the backup C position should be pursued if the White Sox want to solidify their stated goal of being 2022 World Series champs.
@ AaronSapoznik;
Story playing 2B for the White Sox would be good for them. No question.
A few points to consider…….
o The White Sox are currently just about maxed out on money they can devote to salaries in 2022. If Story signs a short make-good contract to play a position other than SS, he’ll want a nice contract – well over $10m.
The White Sox are pretty much out of ML ready prospects in the high minors. Their ML roster is top heavy with power-hitters – neither athletic nor deep. What do they do if they have a major injury or a key player counted on (including pitchers) is having an awful year in in 2022? What flexibility do they have?
o The Red Sox have the money to give Story a make good contract. He’ll be playing in a hitters park. If he does well there and likes it, there’s a good chance that he can re-sign and move over to SS in 2023 – whether Bogarts leaves as a FA or moves over to 2B for the Sox. If Bogarts gets hurt in 2022 Story moves to SS.
o Story waited 6 years to be a FA. He feels comfortable at SS and prefers to play there. A contending team may well be able to give him that opportunity.
There you go. That should have Madrigal! I wish we would have never made that trade! I think Collins is a good hitter. Upgrading at 2B seems like the best idea since Tony who loves to keep the bench busy will benefit from both Garcia and Harrison. Story not the answer.Mercedes could be a dark horse and our hidden weapon.
You’re really going to let 2 stats determine a guy’s worth? Plus, a little context with your point would help. Yes, he strikes out a lot, more than league average. But his BB% is exactly league average.
His HR% is way above average, as is his XBH%. His AB/HR is almost 10 at-bats better than league average.
These days, FOs believe that SOs aren’t a huge negative, if a guy is still able to get on base. Story gets on base as his career .340 OBP shows.
Plus there’s more to the game than just batting. He’s an excellent base-runner and one of the better defensive SSs in the game.
In fact, judging on a combination of 16 different statistical values, he ranks #7 out of all SS in MLB coming off of a “down season.” So, realistically, he’s top-5 SS in MLB.
We are talking 100 mil. No way would i pay that much for a k guy. Yes there are other aspects to the game but his k to walk is brutal enough not to pay 100 mil. Id rather trade for a Gavin Lux or Fletcher. The only guy I wanted the Sox to pay for was Schwarber.
FYI: Kyle Schwarber is much more of a “k guy” than Trevor Story. Unlike ‘Schwarbs’ he also plays excellent defense at a premium position and would likely be even better at 2B with his age, arm and diminishing range. I also like what Schwarber might have brought to the White Sox batting order with his high OPS lefty bat but he also happens to be best suited for LF/DH/1B, positions the ChiSox have a an abundance of solid bat options at with Eloy Jimenez, Andrew Vaughn, Jose Abreu and Gavin Sheets among others.
Oh come on tigers please sign him I hope they end up being a surprise team that wasn’t even mentioned to be a possibility or interested that ends up signing him because I got a feeling Avila is going to sign at least one of corea or story to put the cherry on top of what I think is a pretty decent offseason for the tigers so far.
Some of these comments are pretty hysterical; Baltimore? C’mon, man! Angels? White Sox? No & no. Boston? HIGHLY unlikely. GIANTS? Noope! Too expensive. Angels? Ain’t happnin’! The Rays?! Uh ah. It’s TAMPA, people! Trevor Story is signing with either the Twins or St. Louis. My money would be on Minny, but the Cards are making a push..
Nice bit of satire.
Wow hard to be so wrong so quickly.
Man I swear if Avila signs one of Carlos Correa or Trevor story and then throws in the reported interest trade of one or both of the a’s pitchers Shane manea or the other one I can’t remember the name at the moment we would definitely be contenders to win the central for sure and he’s definitely got the ammo to pull those off easily.
Montas?
he wont sign with the twins if he wants to win soon, they are at best a 70 win team
Yah but with him maybe 75
By the time Story and Correa sign they will be weeks behind which could drop their performance.
You know these guys practice in the offseason, right?
Derek Falvey….if you don’t get this done…YOU GONE
Jim Polhad is happy with what he does.
What Happened to the Astros owner getting involved? I’m thinking Corrrea wants to play somewhere else.
Unless he becomes a SP the Red Sox will waste his talents. We need some pitching, the offense is fine. Yes, Xander will likely opt out for a bigger deal, but 2022 this isn’t the Red Sox issue.
We still need upgrades on offense.
It’s looking more and more like Verdugo in left, Kike in center and JBJ in right with Duran and JDM backing up. That’s a really good defensive starting 3 but offensively not great. The Red Sox could really use Story’s bat.
I’m not sure, if I were Story, I would want to sign with Boston on the assumption that Bogaerts will opt out. Sure he probably will, but I wouldn’t feel comfortable in that situation.
It’s not like they couldn’t promise him that he’ll be their SS in 2023 at the latest, is it?
They could, sure. But wouldn’t that guarantee that Bogaerts does move on? Maybe they’re good with that, but it seems like much of the benefit of signing Story lasts only one year if Bogaerts opts out, and they get nothing for him
I would love the Sox to sign Story. He would be a great fit for us.
If I’m Story I go to the Red Sox.
A playoff contender in 2022. A good park to hit in. The opportunity to prove that the offensive splits out of Coors will not translate. A bright FO that has quality young players in the pipeline ready to come up, and a commitment to be a sustainable contender for years with large market revenue to add salary as needed.
If Bogarts get hurt in 2022 Story can take over SS. While there are no guarantees, there is a very good chance Bogarts doesn’t play SS for the Sox in 2023 and beyond. He either leaves as a FA or the Sox move him to 2B. Which leaves Story playing SS for a contending team provided he plays decently in 2022….and if he does play decently but doesn’t like the situation, he’s a FA next year and can try again.
Much of what you say also applies to the Giants.
Bogaerts is entering his age 29 season while for Crawford it’s age 35.
The Sox were a playoff contender, but the Giants won 107 games and a division title.
The Giants have a lot more salary space than the Sox.
@ tad2b13;
Not really.
The Giants top prospect – Marco Luciano – is being groomed to replace Crawford. Crawford’s extension was timed to him handing the SS position over to Luciano.
I don’t see the Giants paying a FA’s salary to a guy when they’ll have a player with 6 years of control manning the position.
First of all, teams don’t let what kind of player a prospect might be stop them from signing someone with a track record.
Luciano was projected by some to move off the position. His scouting report says he has a chance to remain at SS, but that doesn’t sound to me like a true SS that needs to stay there.
Neither you nor I know if Crawford’s extension was timed for Luciano. That was conjecture. It made sense at the time, but Zaidi never said that.
Teams can, and will, change their plans to make their team better. And with Longoria on the last year of his deal, a Story signing, with Luciano at 3B next season, makes sense for them.
Tab: “ First of all, teams don’t let what kind of player a prospect might be stop them from signing someone with a track record.”
Yes, the Yankees keep doing just that every offseason with SS. But, that’s a terrible way to operate for a contender. Hopefully SF will be smarter than that. Story is a great fit for SF. Luciano is a great prospect, and until he is a good major league player, he’s simply a prospect, you’re right. He’s also got positional flexibility & as Story’s ability wanes in years to come, he may shift positions as well. They can figure it out.
Come on, Nats, get in on this action!
Don’t like it for Boston. Sends the message to Xander that they’re preparing to move on. Sets up a sour clubhouse and alienates a home grown team leader who already gave us a hometown discount the last time around.
I want Xander with the Sox until he retires. Obviously not at any cost, but I would like them to pay him enough that he’ll happily move to a more suitable position, even if it’s a bit of an overpay.
If that’s in the works, then I’d be happy to see a new SS signed. But not if it’s going to mean Xander has one foot out the door.
Bunch of nonsense.
Boras will have Xander walk out on you if he can get more money from another team in 2023.
Loyalty is a two-way street. MLB players long ago did the “I want to do what’s best for my family” song and dance – that they don’t bother with anymore. Fans in just about every market were burned. Now they’re used to it.
Players will do what’s best for them, FO’s will do what’s best for the franchise.
Xander already gave the Sox a hometown discount, so no, not all of them are as you describe.
But regardless, if you read what I wrote, I didn’t say he’d do it again. I said I want the Sox to overpay, if necessary, to keep him.
If I were Bloom, I’d offer Bogaerts a 6-year deal for maybe $165M. That covers him through age 35 @$27,5M. If accepts, then he’s our SS, and an all-time RS player. If not, then we sign Story. I like Bogaerts, and unlike Betts, I think he genuinely interested in Boston.
But like you said, it cannot be “at any cost:.
That sounds about right to me. But I’d add that these conversations aren’t just about dollars and years. They’re about vision, goals, aspirations and character too.
So if I’m Bloom, I’m telling Xander, “look, our vision for you is as the face of this franchise, the next Pedroia, Ortiz or Varitek. But to make that happen we hope you can see yourself in a variety of roles, not just at short stop, but perhaps elsewhere on the diamond, and perhaps taking on some mentorship responsibilities in the clubhouse.” Etc. etc. And if I like what I hear in that conversation, I can imagine going higher than what you propose.
Xander Bogaerts already acknowledged that he wants Story on the team.
Which shows he’s a team player. He has to know if Story is on the roster then next season he has less bargaining power with Boston. So he’s saying the right thing, and hopefully he means it. And maybe he’s already talked with Bloom about their long-term plans and feels confident he can be a part of them. But if not, it’s hard to see how this doesn’t harden his resolve to hit the market and go to the highest bidder.
Fantasy World. Writers creating stories and trying to sell them to the public. Who’s next?
If Story comes to Boston the ONLY position he should be considered for is 3B since they don’t have one right now unless they stick Dalbec there because Cora plans to use him all over like he did Chavis on his way out the door.
Why would Story want to play for an organization in such Chaos? It makes no sense. SF is a great place to play and since Bloom and Cora arrived Boston is not.
Would you go to a place where a horrendous 3B has so much power that he hurts the team 5 years running and the front office can’t pull the trigger on moving him to help the pitching staff and the overall team to win? NOPE.
Story will be an interesting case study in how players from Colorado transition to a more normal ball park. Arenado in 2022 can be considered adjusted enough to see if playing at home in a non-Colorado environment really produces different numbers than his Colorado numbers. If he jumps back up to his normal numbers after a one year adjustment it would speak volumes to the theory that numbers are PADDED in Colorado because home numbers are better than away numbers.
Frankly, I think the great players will prove that Colorado does not inflate a players numbers. They improve the home numbers and hurt the away numbers but in the end the averages are the same once a player settles in to playing 81 games in a normal ball park.
Why are the RS in such “Chaos”? In fact, they brought Cora back for stability in spite of negative media backlash. Teams are shifting to interchangeable position players (see Dodgers and Yankees). Story has already mentioned he’s willing to play another position.
Another ridiculous take From KD. There is no chaos this is part of his quest burry Devers. The team is coming off 92 wins and trip to the ALCS. Story will go to the highest bidder with the best chance to win.
Yankee – Seriously? The talent level has dropped dramatically. The plan is to remove all players making over $12MM a year. No long term contracts so no superstars. The idiot GM is spending more on active roster than DD and the replacements resemble the movie of the same name!!
Chaos. Minimal spending but on twice as many players resulting in less talent while the quality players go to the teams that want to win.. Owners spending their huge profits on teams in other sports. A manager whose best skill is he’s fluent in two languages and a selfish 3B whose fielding percentage is .935 after five seasons but refuses to move off the position or he’ll cry. Fortunately, they hired a cheating manager to wipe his tears.
If you believe the interchangeable position bull crap then I have some swamp land in Florida for you!! Let me guess, you don’t realize that you have as many championships as the Tampa Bay Rays so you believe in the revolving door of mediocre players that can play multiple positions but none well?
As a Yankee fan you should be happy with the demise of the Red Sox. I guess your own demise has distracted you from realizing how bad it is in Boston.
you’re trying to set a record for worst takes in a day aren’t you? More unsubstantiated claims and cherry picked stats. Notice how you don’t call the SS selfish for not wanting to switch positions when he publicly said he doesn’t want to while the 3B has said nothing of the sort yet he is being selfish. News flash hypocrite…neither player is being selfish!. …don’t forget to whine about the muting again because the only reason feel the need to mute anyone is because your points like your are weak and pathetic..
Yup, I beat him like a drum, so he had to mute me. Not like he’d be able to defend his prediction of 65 wins, or his nonsense about Robles true cost, or a dozen other bad takes.
Since when do the Sox not a have 3rd Baseman.
he can’t stand Devers. tat’s all there is to this take
What were your feelings on the Giants’ organization 12 months ago? Be honest
Lol. Jon Heyman confirms red Sox in on story. Hours later breaking news. Rosenthal confirms red Sox indeed engaged with story. Wowza!
Taco – Isn’t it great when a GM leaks false stories to multiple sources to build credibility for a false story? After Deshaun Watson picked the Browns today after it was guaranteed that he was choosing between Atlanta and New Orleans is there ANY information that is reported accurately? It’s a joke .
There is a new false rumor about the Red Sox every day. In the end, Bloom will pick-up a player for under $12MM and the team will be steam rolled by their AL East opponents, Even Baltimore at this point.
The team needs a closer, a starter and an outfielder yet all the rumors are about infielders especially 1Bs where Boston is deepest. The only reason people have to consider the rumors is that the bone head GM got a DH that was injured at the deadline when they needed a SP. Anything is possible with Bloom as long as it’s cheap.
Visionary predictions, Nostradamus.
Hope everybody gets the chance to watch the moonshot Julio Rodriguez just hit
Absolutely obliterated the ball
I hope the Twins pass on Story.
It’ll be weird seeing him in a (insert name of team that ISN’T the Red Sox) uniform!
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Oof!
Boston signing Story for more than 4 years tops is a longshot at best. No long term deals.They are not going to block Mayer and Yorke that are probably 3 years away.
Of course they’ll “block” prospect that are still 3 years away, for the right player. You don’t plan on something as uncertain as that. In three years if there”s a logjam, they’ll move someone.
Prospects that can’t be “blocked” are the ones who have an established track record and trajectory that’s putting them in The Show in 6-18 months. If they’re 24-36 months away, the uncertainty is too high. You don’t plan today’s roster around fantasies about three years from now.
Even at that, the only way he blocks anyone is if Bogaerts stays. If Bogaerts leaves, even if Mayers and Yorke are successful, Story just moves to 3B.
I’m not persuaded this is a good move for the Sox. But Meyer and Yorke are not a significant factor in that. They’re too far away.
Come on Farhan, give me a reason to buy tickets/jerseys for the family! I know I’m not the only fan thinking the same way…
Stadium is paid off, low payroll, come on!
If 107 wins isn’t enough to get you to buy tickets, then you ae hopeless.
I was only referring to this year. Last year, for a team that won 107 games, they had difficulty filling the stands. Hopefully Covid was the driving factor in folks not wanting to go to the park, not sure.
The Dodgers however did not have that problem.
I don’t see how Boston and SF make sense. He wants to play SS. Bogaerts and Crawford aren’t moving from those positions. If the Twins are serious about Story, they could possibly be a fit. Not sure who the fourth team could be. Maybe the Angels? Either way, I’m sure wherever he signs it won’t be BOS or SF.
As to SF, Crawford is entering his age 35 season, and is signed for only this year and next. They could use a good hitting 2B, so they can move La Stella to a more suited utility role. 2022 is Longoria’s last year.
Sure, for 2022 the fit isn’t perfect, but a lot signings aren’t. Kapler is a big believer in giving guys rest, so it’s not that difficult for the Giants to make it work. It’s a good problem to have.
It only has to be only a reasonable fit on a team with a possibility to win now. In that regard, SF is a better fit than Minnie.
Story could have SS for twins but why would he want to? Team has no pitching and wont compete for a sniff of any playoffs.
He’ll end up in STL next to Arenado again…I believe the Cardinals are history mysTORY team.
Your comment rings the truest of those I’ve read. St. Louis landing him would be huge if they can afford it. Great comment!!
See the Red Dox (too many unvaccinated players) are sort of trying to win…..
Evan Grant (Dallas) is suggesting Story and Texas are talking again. Rumors suggest he would be playing LF. What a story (no pun intended) that would be.
I wonder what the twins had offered him.
Oh, you, Jon Heyman.
Can’t fool Fent. Naming the Yankees as “potential” suitors. That’s MLB agenting 101: “leak” Yankee involvement.
Hal & Cash are perfectly content with our new little shortstop. Who cares if he can’t hit. Amirite?
Give him the Correa contract. Make IKF the catcher!
Heyman’s first tweet fails to mention Yankees, who obviously have no interest. Story’s agent, annoyed, calls back “suggesting” new tweet that mentions the Yankees as potentially having interest.
“potentially”
He’s doubling and tripling down now on the Yankees, with qualifiers flying all about. How does he go from not mentioning the Yankees initially, to then minutes later focusing on the Yankees? The agent.
Yeah, for sure;
Jon Heyman = Shill for MLB agents
Glad I know. I’d be getting excited if I didn’t.
It’s time for JD to whip out the money peniss.
I think the Mets need one more bat and the longer this goes, the possibility of Mr. Cohen swooping in only increases. 2B, 3B, LF & RF could all be opened up for him (depending on where he’d prefer to play). A deal molded after Correa’s (albeit at a lower AAV) could make sense, allowing him to opt-out and reach the market again a year from now. Add in a trade for a reliever and it would be a story-book ending to the offseason for the new-look Mets.
This story is becoming a novel.
Nice!
I don’t know if it would even be a good idea for the Giants to sign him, but I still want them to just to know Farhan is capable of making moves other than bargain hunting for injury prone players.
Fat ham is holding out on any big deals in order to make a monster offer to Soto in the 2024 offseason.
I know that is definitely on their mind.
Hope Bloom doesn’t get in too deep. I’d rather give the money to Bogaerts, and bring in some solid starting pitching.
SPs wont come to Boston with Bogaerts as SS, due to his terrible play. JBJ and Story are here to improve the defense to entice future SPs. Newsflash Devers isn’t staying at 3B next year (2023) either.
I don’t see how Houston didn’t beat Minnesota’s offer to Correa. Moving on to Story for 1yr @$25MM would be a fair move. Astros have been asleep since lockout lifted
Story has five teams interested, including BOS and NYY. He’s not signing anywhere for one year at $25mm.
Getting $200 mil.
I’d love to see Story go to the Giants, but my head is telling me that he’s heading to Houston.
Don’t let Olney and Heyman fool you, Yankee fans.
They are confusing their own logical thinking and the Yankees due diligence for sincere interest to flex their financial might.
Has anyone NOT been surprised by these?
MIN Carlos Correa
TEX-Corey Seagar
DET-Javier Baez
TEX-Marcus Semien
COL-Kris Bryant
I am sure there are folks on this site that will say they picked all five. There was a guy on the Correa signing that said he picked the Twins for Correa. Of course, he did.
Actually fox471 Dave;
If you look at the article before that, he did. Actually wrote 3 years for a bit over $100m with opt outs.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/top-50-mlb-free-agent-rankings.html
It’s funny looking back… This article predicted where guys would go.
22 of the top 30 Free Agents have been signed…
1 guy is 2 for 22
1 guy is 1 for 22
1 guy is 0 for 22
Just goes to show even the professionals can’t predict this kinda stuff!
Well? We’re waiting.
Perfect fit for giants but he may not go to giants.
Giants Dodged a bullet.
Story just average away from Coors. His stats already on the decline. Rather see Ramos or Matos brought up as the next RH power bat.