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Correa Open To Long-Term Deal With Twins

By Steve Adams | April 26, 2022 at 10:57pm CDT

The common consensus when Carlos Correa signed a surprising three-year, $105.3MM contract with the Twins was that he’d take his opt-out clause at the end of this season and re-enter the market. However, Correa recently spoke with Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic and revealed that he’s already expressed to Twins president of baseball operations Derek Falvey, general manager Thad Levine and manager Rocco Baldelli that he would “love” to sign a longer-term deal.

“I told ‘em, ’Hey guys, I know I have the opt-outs in the contract. But I really like it here,'” Correa tells Rosenthal. “I love the people here. I love the way I’m treated here. … I would love to have a long-term relationship here if that’s what you guys would like.” Correa adds that his wife already feels “right at home” in Minnesota and that he’s been energized by his teammates, specifically lauding the scalding-hot Byron Buxton as well as the overall win-now temperament throughout the clubhouse.

On the one hand, it’s hardly a surprise to see Correa express a willingness to sign a lengthy contract. He hit the open market this past offseason seeking a contract of at least 10 years in length and only pivoted to the three-year, opt-out-laden deal with the Twins after he did not find a longer-term deal to his liking. Any player would surely “love” to sign a long-term deal of the magnitude Correa sought in free agency. (The Tigers reportedly offered Correa a 10-year deal worth $275MM with multiple opt-out opportunities, but he was said to be seeking a deal north of $330MM.)

On the other hand, it’s also common for players to decline to discuss contractual matters during the season. We regularly see players who are on the cusp of free agency set Opening Day deadlines for a new contract because they prefer not to negotiate during the season. As a newly signed free agent, Correa is in a different boat than, say, Aaron Judge, who did not agree to terms on a long-term deal with the Yankees before his own Opening Day deadline, but it’s nevertheless of at least some note that Correa is publicly expressing a desire to stay put. He’d hardly have been the first player to simply decline to discuss the matter when asked and instead say he’ll think about that after the season.

From the Twins’ side of things, Falvey declined to delve into specifics but said that even when signing Correa to his three-year deal, the organization’s hope was that the shortstop would find Minnesota to his liking and hope to stay long-term. “I certainly expect we’ll maintain open lines of communication with both Carlos and [agent Scott Boras],” Falvey added.

There’s no getting around the fact that Correa is out to a poor start. It’s only 59 plate appearances, but Correa is hitting .192/.288/.288 with a homer and a pair of doubles. Statcast feels he’s been unlucky based on his huge 92.4 mph average exit velocity and a sky-high 58.8% hard-hit rate, but that “bad luck” only applies when Correa actually puts the ball in play. He’s doing that less often than ever, with a 30.5% strikeout rate that’s nearly 10 percentage points higher than his career 20.7% mark. Statcast credits him for an “expected” .230 average and .394 slugging percentage, but he’ll need to curb the strikeouts if he’s to return to his prior levels of production.

For his part, Correa made clear that he’s not concerned. The former Rookie of the Year, All-Star and 2021 Platinum Glove winner said he’s struggled to find his swing in April in the past, and a look at his career splits does reflect, to an extent, that he’s been more productive in subsequent months. That said, Correa has a career 123 wRC+ in March/April that towers over his current 77. Baldelli noted that Correa received fewer than half the spring plate appearances he might’ve in a normal year — a reflection both of the truncated Spring Training schedule and Correa’s own late signing.

Assuming Correa eventually rounds into form at the plate and that the Twins indeed have a desire to keep him longer-term — Baldelli raved to Rosenthal about Correa’s presence in the clubhouse and leadership traits — the question becomes one of whether they can comfortably make such a commitment. Signing Correa would likely require an unprecedented commitment for the franchise, given that the largest contract ever issued by the Twins was Joe Mauer’s eight-year, $184MM pact. That contract came with a unique set of circumstances, as Mauer was a former No. 1 overall pick and St. Paul native who’d just been named American League MVP in 2009 — the final season at the Metrodome before the Twins moved into a new, largely publicly funded stadium, Target Field. The public relations impact of letting Mauer walk as a free agent after the 2010 season would’ve been overwhelming; that’s not the case with Correa, whom many fans expect to opt out and sign elsewhere next winter.

Still, you’d be hard-pressed to claim the Twins “can’t afford” to keep Correa, if the front office and Boras can agree on a structure. Minnesota’s payroll this season is a franchise-record $138MM, per Roster Resource’s Jason Martinez, and the Twins only have $76MM in guarantees on next year’s books. Correa’s $35.1MM salary accounts for nearly half that sum. By 2024, the Twins have just $54.5MM on the books — again, with Correa representing a major portion of that figure. Beginning in 2025, the Twins only have a bit more than $18MM on the books.

Over the long-term, Buxton’s seven-year, $100MM contract is the only major commitment the Twins have. He’ll earn a $15MM base salary on that deal from 2023-28, though that figure can jump by as much as $10.5MM annually based on total plate appearances and MVP voting. Still, even in a year where Buxton were to max out that figure, he’d only do so by staying healthy and winning an MVP Award. The Twins would happily pay $25.5MM in that scenario, and even pairing that with a hefty annual salary for Correa, the combined $55-60MM would be a fraction of the team’s overall spending. It doesn’t seem likely that the Twins will be running $200MM payrolls anytime soon, but it’s also reasonable to project some modest increases over this year’s $138MM mark.

The Twins would need to fill out the roster beyond those two players, of course, but they’re bullish on a crop of young pitching headlined by Opening Day starter Joe Ryan, to say nothing of young arms like Bailey Ober, Josh Winder and Jhoan Duran, all of whom are already in the big leagues. Prospects Jordan Balazovic, Simeon Woods Richardson, Louie Varland, Cole Sands and others aren’t expected to be far behind, and slugging infielder Jose Miranda ought to make his MLB debut at some point in 2022 as well. Signing Correa would perhaps block top infield prospects Royce Lewis and Austin Martin, but both have experience playing multiple positions. Not all of those players will emerge as contributors, but it’s easier to stomach a long-term, near-market-value deal when expecting an influx of cost-controlled young talent to help fill out the roster.

It’s still difficult to imagine the Twins ponying up with this kind of commitment, if only for the simple reason that they’ve just never spent at this level in the past. There’s a strong likelihood Correa will be back on the market after the season. That said, it was also difficult to imagine the Twins handing out a $35.1MM annual salary to Correa in the first place, and that contract at least changed some expectations and made a larger deal seem slightly more plausible. It’d still register as a surprise, but it’s easier to take the “never say never” tack now that the Twins have already pulled off one Correa stunner.

Fans intrigued by the situation will want to check out Rosenthal’s column in full, as it’s rife with detailed quotes from each of Correa, Falvey, Baldelli and Boras regarding the possibility of Correa extending his stay in Minnesota. There’s no indication that talks will happen anytime soon, but the Twins were active on the in-season extension front last year when trying to hammer out Buxton’s long-term deal prior to the trade deadline. A larger deal for Correa could be even more complicated, but all parties seem open to the idea.

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  1. THE downvoter

    3 years ago

    Kevin was always a decent pitcher. That one “default” All Star appearance probably is the basis for this long term extension discussion. Go Twins!

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    • Steve Adams

      3 years ago

      I stared at this for about 10 seconds before my brain caught up, ha.

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      • C-Daddy

        3 years ago

        My brain has not caught up.

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        • Steve Adams

          3 years ago

          Kevin Correia pitched for the Twins from 2013-14; Slight spelling variation, but I was still amused once my brain got there.

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    • CubsWin108

      3 years ago

      Who???

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        3 years ago

        So he would “love” to stay in Minnesota, as long as the Twins give him the biggest offer and it meets his demands.

        I “love” when players try to make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy.

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        • disadvantage

          3 years ago

          @fever – What’s wrong with him wanting to stay in Minnesota? Dude’s going to get paid regardless where he goes. I guess your argument is he’s trying to butter them up, but his praise all seemed pretty genuine. Is he not supposed to share his feelings about it?

          To put it another way, what if he really does love it in Minnesota? What could he say that would make you believe he truly loves the place and that not everything is about getting top dollar?

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        • flamingbagofpoop

          3 years ago

          He loves money. The end.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          3 years ago

          disadvantage – Nothing wrong at all with him wanting to stay, but yeah it’s (to me anyway) the glaring disingenuity that makes me roll my eyes.

          He’s been with the organization for barely 5 weeks, and already he has decided Minnesota is the place he wants to be for the next decade or more? Really?

          And does anybody really believe he would give the Twins a “discount” on an extension because he supposedly loves it there so much? Really?

          And does anybody really expect him to say “No I wouldn’t want to sign an extension here”? How many players have ever NOT said they hope they can sign a new contract with their existing team?

          Nothing at all against the Twins or Minnesota, I’m just calling out a “full of it” player when I see one. The dude is in it for the money only, that’s why he ended up with the Twins in the first place … because no team met his $300M+ demands.

          tl;dr – What poop said.

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        • disadvantage

          3 years ago

          First of all, “What poop said” is one of the better tl;dr’s I’ve seen lately, so bravo to that.

          And I guess what it boils down to for me is I am giving him the benefit of the doubt that, even though it’s only been 5 weeks, that he loves the organization. Playing alongside Buxton, and his wife loving the area, both seem like plausible reasons to take to a liking of a new place. And as far as “no I wouldn’t want to sign an extension here”… I would just expect him to not even have any conversations around an extension, or a non-answer like “we’ll see how it goes!” And as far as the statement that he loves it in Minnesota, it can be one of two things: a game, or he truly loves it there. What’s wrong with it actually being the second one?

          As for loving money… I expect most players seek the highest dollar amount they can get. I also feel like him wanting to get top dollar and playing in Minnesota are not mutually exclusive.

          I can also acknowledge that I can’t read his mind, and maybe he is just playing a game to get the most money he possibly can (including his love for Minnesota), nothing more, but I still give him the benefit of the doubt, until he proves otherwise.

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    • Deadguy

      3 years ago

      Bailey Ober

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  2. Fox News , Trump, Yankees

    3 years ago

    Twins should stay away from doing that. That’s the equivalent of paying Kirk cousins massive money for nothing in return. He’s batting the mendoza line this year.

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    • CubsWin108

      3 years ago

      hey buddy, were not even a month in yet.

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      • TroyVan

        3 years ago

        He did strike out 3x on 9 straight pitches last night. Taken with his batting average so far, that’s not a guy that should be talking extension right now.

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        • disadvantage

          3 years ago

          He also had some pretty ice cold streaks last year (like a 2-35 in May and a 1-38 in July). By all means, take his slow start for a new team and one really bad game as you will, but he’ll probably be just fine.

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        • Wisdom shared

          3 years ago

          Ok, based on your comment, NO extension should even be discussed until the end of the season and see if Correa was worthy of an extension. There will be a whole season of stats to tell the tale and if Correa really wants to remain in Minny, then regardless if he has a great season, he doesn’t opt out since opting out makes him a hypocrite. He says he wants to stay but wants out to pursue loftier payoffs. If 35.1 isn’t enough for any player, they are playing for greed, nothing more.

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        • disadvantage

          3 years ago

          I’m not sure if your reply was to me, but if it was, my point was that players have bad stretches, and that bad stretches (or literally a bad game, as Troy suggested) do not define the player. So, I am all for extensions being discussed whenever the player and team see fit.

          And I can see why wanting more than $35 million seems greedy since that is an absurd amount of money, but I say, if he’s worth more than $35 million, why not get it? He played most of his career being underpaid in relation to his numbers (arb and pre-arb), so he might as well get what he’s worth now, even if it means turning down an obscene amount of money for a larger, even more obscene amount of money.

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  3. NoNeckWilliams

    3 years ago

    It’s a little more difficult to hit in Minnesota than Houston.

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    • CubsWin108

      3 years ago

      The 2019 Twins would like to have a word with you…

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      • NoNeckWilliams

        3 years ago

        Congrats, you found what you were looking for… now check out all of the available information.

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      3 years ago

      That’s because the Twins used garbage bags instead of trash cans.

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  4. Dotnet22

    3 years ago

    If I was batting .192 I would too.

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    • VegasSDfan

      3 years ago

      With a 30% strike out rate…

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  5. STLBirds86

    3 years ago

    Better find that bat sooner than later bro..

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  6. Aoe3

    3 years ago

    Reminds me of Springer signing with Toronto.

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      3 years ago

      Outside of them both leaving from Houston what other similarities are there ?

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      • Aoe3

        3 years ago

        Ud think theyd sign with an american brand name big market team. And maybe take a slight discount so the team can build around them? Just a thought.

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        • bubblegumborders

          3 years ago

          Should avoid those small market teams like Toronto.

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        • Jaysfansince92

          3 years ago

          Toronto has an entire country for their Market, but why let get in the way of your preferred narrative.

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        • myaccount2

          3 years ago

          Well it has to be American brand, don’t ya know.

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        • rememberthecoop

          3 years ago

          MERICA!

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  7. LordD99

    3 years ago

    The Twins signed Correa expecting him to leave after 2022. No way they’ll pay him long term.

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    • The Einheri

      3 years ago

      I suspect the Twins signed Correa expecting to trade him by July.

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      [after they signed him for multiple years]

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  8. Jerry Cantrell

    3 years ago

    Wait, Buxton is healthy?

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    • rodcarew

      3 years ago

      Now is not forever.

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  9. whyhayzee

    3 years ago

    He went from south to north and now he wants to stay? Communist.

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    • VegasSDfan

      3 years ago

      People treat you better up North

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      • StPeteStingRays

        3 years ago

        It’s not about north and south. It’s about how many a**holes surround you. The less, the nicer.
        – life experience and wisdom

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      • 802Ghost

        3 years ago

        No, they don’t.

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  10. Samuel

    3 years ago

    Was the best SS in MLB with the Astros.

    The issue is not the slow start. It’s that some teams build a a sort of a cocoon around their players. The Astros are one, Cleveland is another. Possibly the Giants, Rays, Brewers, and Dodgers. The players are used and encouraged in such a way that all pressure is removed from them. They’re given total support and assistance from the coaching staff, management, and encouraged to stay within themselves and just be a part of the team.

    Most players that leave those organizations never do quite as well elsewhere. It’s as if those teams get the best out of them and move on.

    Am a Correa fan. If he and Buxton can stay healthy – no sarcasm intended – then the Twins can build their defense with them up the middle; and their offense around those 2 and Luis Arraez – who is just as strong a natural LH hitter as Rafael Devers but not playing in Boston or NYC doesn’t get the pub. From there it’s all about the pitching coach …..and the Twins have a very good one.

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    • Libpwnr

      3 years ago

      He’s never been even REMOTELY close to the best SS in MLB. Get. A. Grip!

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        3 years ago

        Another swing and a miss by our friend Samuel.

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    • Mystery Team

      3 years ago

      Never was he the best SS in baseball and comparing Arraez to Devers is also quite the stretch as I don’t see Arraez ever putting up numbers like that. Two different class of players there.

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      • BeansforJesus

        3 years ago

        What does a natural left-handed hitter mean when both only bat from the left side? I get that in regard to switch hitters, but someone that only bats lefty isn’t making it to majors as a natural righty.

        Besides handedness they don’t compare in batter profile or even body profile. Devers has 75lbs on the dude easily.

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    • Dogbone

      3 years ago

      Correa barely cracks the top 10 SS in baseball. In most fantasy drafts he’s been chosen around 7-10.

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      • JoeBrady

        3 years ago

        According to Yahoo, Correa is the #13 SS taken overall. That obviously discounts fielding, but even at FG, he is rated #8 from 2018-2021, and that does include fielding. I drafted him on several Rotisserie teams, but that was because he fell so far, not because he was so good.

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      • SportsFan0000

        3 years ago

        Correa is a “money player” that will help his team get to the playoffs and be successful in the playoffs.
        Some team will pay him.
        He is a franchise cornerstone..

        However, he must be having “‘second thoughts” about
        turning down 275M guaranteed from Detroit…
        especially if he were to have a major injury that would tank his value in future deals…

        It amazes me all the talent @ the SS position in MLB!

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  11. angt222

    3 years ago

    Of course he does…

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  12. Captain Judge99

    3 years ago

    This is great Twinkies! Please sign Cheater Correa for 15 years!

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    • SportsFan0000

      3 years ago

      Not nearly as bad as ARod and many others…

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    • StPeteStingRays

      3 years ago

      The irony is a bit too much for me when a delusional fan that parades as a yankee player on the internet demeans Correa for cheating.

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  13. Robertowannabe

    3 years ago

    Almost every player will say they are open to a long term deal with the team that they are already playing for. They never publicly say that they can’t till the end of the season to opt our or the contract that they have expires and they can look for a better deal elsewhere.

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    • THE downvoter

      3 years ago

      Kenny Powers did.

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    • smd

      3 years ago

      Especially when they’re hitting below the Mendoza line.

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  14. Crunchtime1969

    3 years ago

    “It’s his time” as he points to his watch and rounds the bases. Houston went on to lose the WS. Correa lands in Minnesota and is hitting a brisk .191. Can’t wait for the rest of the story.

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  15. BaseballClassic1985

    3 years ago

    Should’ve taken that reported $275 million from Detroit, Carlos! Another player living in fantasy world and being burned by his avarice

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    • ❤️ MuteButton

      3 years ago

      His ego wouldn’t have allowed that.

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  16. njbirdsfan

    3 years ago

    Desperation is a stinky cologne.

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  17. Moneyballer

    3 years ago

    Twins have quietly built the foundation for a monster club. Ive generally agreed with the moves they’ve made given their circumstances.

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  18. Libpwnr

    3 years ago

    Trash player wants to cash in before the moronic team that signed him realizes their mistake? Shocking.

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  19. Jacksson13

    3 years ago

    Class move by Correa. Probably orchestrated by Boras. Good strategy for when he opts out after 2022. The El Cheapo Pohlad owned Twins will never realistically (behind closed doors) consider re-upping with Correa. Team is already situated position wise for 2023.
    1B = Kirilloff
    SS = Lewis
    3B = Miranda
    LF = Martin
    GONE will be Correa, Sano, Sanchez, and Urshela (and their high buck contracts)

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    • refereemn77

      3 years ago

      Cheap Pohlads is such an overused trope. If Correa turns it around, I would like to see him stay. I do agree with you about Sánchez and Sano. They will go and be mostly forgotten. Urshela is controlled through 2023, so unless he’s traded I suspect he’ll be on the roster next year.

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  20. stymeedone

    3 years ago

    Offer Correa what they signed Buxton for. Paying more than twice as much as Buxton is getting, would not make sense.

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  21. theroadto28

    3 years ago

    I understand the he will be closer to his median numbers than he currently is, however I hate when players talk extensions when they are batting below the Mendoza.

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  22. Tom Price

    3 years ago

    Cheater.

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  23. JoeBrady

    3 years ago

    LOL! Correa is talking about how much he wants to stay, while the Twins are talking about how much they want him to leave. The $275M he was offered is now a mirage.

    That said, this could be a major buying opportunity for someone in the off-season. The dude is a major talent, but his health and inconsistency make him impossible to sign long-term.

    But say Bogaerts leaves the RS (which I’d prefer he not do). The RS could probably obtain him for next to nothing. They could slot him into SS easily, and the the two-year timeline works well with Mayer. They say there is no such thing as a bad one-year deal. With a player with that level of talent, I’d suggest that there is almost no such thing as a bad two-year deal. He’ll be enormously motivated to opt out.

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  24. bigben

    3 years ago

    What’s up with all the hate? It’s only a couple weeks in I’ll take him long term and trade one of the SS prospects for controllable pitching.

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      I’ve never seen so much hate for a player saying the want to stay with a team. Pure insanity.

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      • rememberthecoop

        3 years ago

        Agreed. I made a sarcastic comment, but no hate intended. I know the Stros cheated but Correa is a money player who wants to win. And it’s important for Hispanic ballplayers especially to feel respected. In his mind, that’s by beating his friend in NY for the biggest contract I’m fine with that.

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      • When it was a game.

        3 years ago

        Think it’s his timing. He is playing awful the first month and has made a bad impression (which can be turned around) and is talking long term extension.

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        • dirkg

          3 years ago

          Correct. It’s the timing factor. If we’re talking about a player who was scouted and brought up through the org and says he wants to be a Twin for life, you get it. Or even a player who signed with the Twins and has played for several years and wants to end his career there.

          Correa signed a contract that basically said “yeah I’m def opting out and I want three years of options to do so” (for one of the highest AAV no less) and then turns around and basically says Minnesota is actually worth sticking around for (???) so sign me to an actual (not fake) contract.

          WTF.

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  25. rememberthecoop

    3 years ago

    How nice of Correa to “allow” Minnesota to pay all those extra millions. What a guy!

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  26. Poster formerly known as . . .

    3 years ago

    Correa isn’t barreling-up many pitches, but his hard-hit percentage is still among the highest and his average exit velocity is top 20 among qualified hitters. Provided that he stays healthy, I wouldn’t bet on his not hitting productively this year.

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  27. SportsFan0000

    3 years ago

    Correa would be a good fit for the Twins long term if they are willing to commit that huge amount of dollars to one player.
    I have my doubts that it will ever happen.
    300M+ is more of a big market investment.

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  28. Wilmer the Thrillmer

    3 years ago

    Maybe Correa is already posturing that he will not opt out ofter this year. Not because he may not be worth 35mil but because he loves it there.

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      May as well love it there, as he will be staying as long as he’s hitting .192. It saves face to say that he opts in because he likes it there, rather than because no team is going to give him a better deal.

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  29. tigerfan1968

    3 years ago

    well he will help us forget the miserable year Lindor had last year… He is not the hitter Lindor is…

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  30. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    3 years ago

    What’s he supposed to say? “I hate how cold it is up here sometimes and I can’t wait to leave.” Practically every player, when talking about their next contract, has nothing but great things to say about their current place. I’ll believe he wants to stay when he declines his option or signs an extension.

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      his wife already feels “right at home” in Minnesota
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      That’s the part I love. I’ve been to Toronto maybe 8 times, and still have no idea if I’d like it there. His wife has been in MN a few weeks and feels right at home?

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      • Poster formerly known as . . .

        3 years ago

        I dunno. That’s not all that unbelievable. Presumably you didn’t move into a neighborhood in Toronto and stay for a month on one of your trips there.

        He and his wife had their first child in November. If she likes the housing, her neighbors, the shopping, the healthcare facilities for the baby, etc., it doesn’t strain credulity that she likes the neighborhood. At his pay grade, they’re not likely to be in a bad neighborhood.

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        3 years ago

        Toronto is a great city, I’m sure you’d love it.

        But like all big North American cities it’s overly expensive and congested.

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  31. Mystery Team

    3 years ago

    All I know is I got serious hate on this site when I suggested that Correa and Seager weren’t worth the AAV or years they received saying they are just not elite level bats or gloves. Now I get that it’s early but both are underwhelming like they’ve done their entire careers with the exception of a few runs here and there. I stand by my comments on both guys which is Minnesota will be secretly praying that Correa opts out and that Texas will be begging teams to take that horrific contract off their hands within the first three or four seasons and maybe sooner if things really go south. You can’t win with contacts .like that handcuffing the team unless you print money like L.A. or New York. Texas can say what they want but both their big signings aren’t playing that well.

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      I got serious hate on this site when I suggested that Correa and Seager weren’t worth the AAV or years
      =================================
      I honestly don’t remember anyone suggesting that the Seager contract was reasonable. I’ve drafted him on several fantasy teams, and still consider the contract ridiculous. Who hated on you for that opinion?

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    • flamingbagofpoop

      3 years ago

      I seem to recall pretty much everyone that wasn’t a rangers fan understood that TX had to overpay seager to get him to go there.

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  32. niedenfuer92

    3 years ago

    If the Padres can make a massive commitment to Manny Machado, why can’t the Twins with Correa? As a twins fan I would love it, it would indicate we will stay relevant without a rebuild in sight.

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    • Wilmer the Thrillmer

      3 years ago

      Machado might be a pain in the @$$ sometimes but he is never hurt, he has an elite glove and he is consistently excellent at the plate. Seager and Correa have rarely been healthy an entire year. Seager is an average shortstop at best. Texas gave a HUGE overpay for both Seager and Semien just to try to reestablish credibility. That wasn’t their true market value and Texas still sucks.

      I judge mega contracts by what point they have negative value. Some are upside down the minute they sign, some are good for half the contract. I can see Machado having positive value for most of his contract and I’m not even a Machado fan.

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      You want to pay $300M to Correa, given how he is performing. I can see a big market team like the RS, NYY or LAD taking the contract for 2 years, while developing their prospects. But even at their payroll potential, $300M seems way out of line. For Minny to put up 20-25% of their payroll to someone like Correa seems like a huge gamble.

      As a RS fan, I was hoping it would be the NYY that signed him long-term.

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      • Poster formerly known as . . .

        3 years ago

        Given his size and past injury history, I’d leave the long-term contract to another franchise. I won’t be surprised if he can’t stick at shortstop.

        As a Yankee fan, I’d have been fine with adding him on the terms the Twins got, but not a long contract. As it happens, I’m delighted with what Kiner-Falefa is producing for a fraction of the cost.

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  33. 48-team MLB

    3 years ago

    *PLYMOUTH PARAKEETS

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  34. dirkg

    3 years ago

    I read what Correa said as, “yeah I didn’t really want to sign here but it was the only club that would give me my ridiculous AAV. Now that I’ve been here for a month, Minnesota is not a bunch of hicks and trash pandas as I had feared. So yeah, Scottie, up that $105M to some real money as soon as you can because I’m not getting any younger.”

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      “Minnesota is not a bunch of hicks and trash pandas as I had feared.”
      ============================
      I read that as “Maybe they are trash pandas, but I’m not getting anywhere near the $275M I turned down”

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      • Baldkid

        3 years ago

        JoeBrady I read your comment as You’ve never been in Minnesota in your life and have no clue to what your talking about

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        • Jbigz12

          3 years ago

          Cmon laugh at the joke. Don’t be so sensitive over a lil joke at a CITY you presumably live in a suburb of.

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        • JoeBrady

          3 years ago

          Baldkid
          JoeBrady I read your comment as You’ve never been in Minnesota in your life and have no clue to what your talking about
          =============================
          I’ve been there several times. I was conjecturing on what Correa was thinking while he was saying how much he loved Minny. The vast majority of players profess love for the cities they are playing. It’s meaningless.

          He wants the money, and probably couldn’t care less what the city is like.

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  35. WAR_OVERRATED

    3 years ago

    CC is not a superstar. One year shouldn’t define it. Like Buxton, both have cristal bodies. Too prone to injuries, getting older won’t help. This year, CC hasn’t play the <110 usual games, and now sound desperate for money. Didn't play last Sunday… already injured? Oh… resting after the usual massage breaking ribs or practicing kick boxing with his wife to later hit his friend Joe Kelly in Chicago…ups didn't play.

    Once a great prospect. After +7 years just a wannabe star. He's not protected in Minnesota like he was in Houston.

    Just wait for the mosquitoes season around the corner. He will feel like home. Good luck to the influencer.

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  36. Wisdom shared

    3 years ago

    To be blunt, Correa and his .181 batting average and mediocre season isn’t worth 10M a year so far, let alone 35M. Right now, Correa is trying to sucker the Twins into a long-term contract that will ensure he gets paid like a superstar when in fact he is far from that status. If he has a year where he struggles, you can guarantee that he will opt into the 2nd year and take his 70 Million in two years. If he has a good year, he will opt out and NO team in baseball is going to go long term at 30M a year for a player that hits around .210 a season with ten homers and 45 RBI’s. Statistics don’t lie and it isn’t due to bad luck or the man in the moon. Statistics prove that players aren’t what the fans believe them to be.

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    • SportsFan0000

      3 years ago

      They have played only 16 games. Basically, it should still be Spring Training for the games and time they lost because of the lockout.

      Carlos Correa is a “pros pro” who will produce at a very high level this year as he does every year.
      I am not worried about it and neither should you be.

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      • JoeBrady

        3 years ago

        Carlos Correa is a “pros pro” who will produce at a very high level this year as he does every year.
        ====================================
        He doesn’t produce at a high level every year.

        He had a .728 OPS in 2018, and a .709 in 2020. He also missed more than half the season in 2019. So he’s produced at a “high level” in 2 of the past 5 years, not every year. I drafted him in several roto leagues, so I respect his ability, but he is no superstar.

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  37. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    3 years ago

    I do think Correa is panicking and wants the Twins to give him the kind of sudden unexpected extension on top of the original deal that they handed Phil Hughes when they didn’t have to.

    If he maintains close to this pace, Correa will produce *negative* Wins Above Replacement with -1.0 WAR and he’ll end the season with around 145 games 11 HR’s 35 RBI’s… that’s borderline a DFA situation, forget $35.1M a season.

    I think even if he course corrected over the next 5 months and wound up with a .250 BA 13 HR’s 50 RBI’s and a “positive” 1.1 WAR…. he’d barely be worth a bounce back contract of 1 year/$5M.

    There is no way he doesn’t opt into or at least not opt out of that 2 years/$70.2M because he *knows* he wouldn’t get more than that.

    I could also see him talking the Twins into a restructured extension where 1 year/$35.1M into 7 years/$225.3M or 7 years/$220.2M or something like that depending on if this original 3 year deal is just added to or restructured beyond year 1 or restructured beyond year 2….

    Or the Twins are smart, politely decline any of his overtures and suck up the $70.2M and let him walk or his hubris gets the best of him, he opts out after 2022 and maybe winds up getting 3 years/$80M and then retires early…

    Either way, the writing is on the walls: He was stupid and arrogant to turn down 5 years/$160M from the Astros and 10 years/$275M from Detroit.

    I am pretty sure no matter how his career winds up shaking out when all is said and done, he will have left $50-150M on the table in the name of trying to beat that $275M-$300M guarantee range by $25-50M and an extra 3 years of contract.

    I think if he’s lucky, he plays out the 3 years/$105.3M, takes the QO after that, which, lets say at that point is $19.2M by that point and he gets 4 years/$124.5M and then maybe gets like 2 years/$35.2M after that, and then maybe 1 year/$18M, etc. and he retires before he’s played the equivalent of that 10 year deal he was seeking and his AAV across those years winds up at around $25.385M and 7 years.

    He really should have just taken the most money offered to him this off season and gone to Detroit for 10 years/$275M. I think he will wind up missing out on nearly $100M by going the route he’s gone.

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    • Richard Alicea

      3 years ago

      I couldn’t have said it better. He’s clearly over valuing himself and no one is blinking. The Tigers offered him a generous contract when you factor his injury history and he turned it down. Reminds me of Juan Gonzalez who also turned down a 7 year 145mil dollar offer from the Tigers only to be out of baseball 3 years later. Correa for some reason believes he’s worthy of such a contract, but he’s not. Best bet is for him to stay put and enjoy the current AAV because he won’t see that ever again.

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      • TroyVan

        3 years ago

        I don’t think he’ll see that much money again, either. I think the Twins are going to really regret that contract by the trade deadline.

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  38. solaris602

    3 years ago

    Suuuuuure, I’m totally open to tearing up my current contract and maybe agreeing to a new……oh, I don’t know……10-year/$325M deal with no opt outs. Just sayin’

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  39. richt

    3 years ago

    Geez, quite a dissertation about this Rosenthal article. This MLBTR post is 1400 words to Rosenthal’s 1900.

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  40. cars

    3 years ago

    For Carlos Correa the future with the Twins looks so much brighter than the bleak lifeless future if you had signed with the Cubs

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  41. HalosHeavenJJ

    3 years ago

    Having half your payroll tied up in two guys (Buxton and Correa) who are frequent guests on the IL isn’t a smart plan.

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  42. fba0017

    3 years ago

    Sure he is! Ha ha. What did you expect him to say.

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  43. SportsFan0000

    3 years ago

    Is his agent connected via ear piece and throwing this out there to
    create a future market for his services?!
    Inquiring minds want to know…

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  44. johndietz

    3 years ago

    I would be open to a long term extension too if I were hitting .179

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  45. Dave4585

    3 years ago

    This guy is so overpaid, had one season over .300 and averages 20 HRs a year. I remember when guys like that made solid but modest money. Now you have to pay 30+ mil a year for 8-10 years to secure that…

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  46. Jbigz12

    3 years ago

    This is simply poor timing to put this out in the open.

    Delving into his numbers after 16 games is quite useless. Give him a few months and report back.

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  47. Hard to walk with four balls

    3 years ago

    There is not much of a reason to buy the cow when it’s not producing.

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  48. mike156

    3 years ago

    if he’s saying that he’s open to accepting what he was asking for but couldn’t get in the offseason….

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    • solaris602

      3 years ago

      Keep chasing those rainbows, Carlos. There is a dimension out there where someone wildly overpaid you for too many years. You’ll find that dimension, but it ain’t this one.

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  49. Richard Alicea

    3 years ago

    Unfortunately the Twins won’t go there as Correa is not worthy of such a contract. His best bet is to remain there for the 3 years because he’s not going to find that AAV from another team. He’s saying the right things, however, if I were him I would stay put and hope for the best 3 years from now. Mind you if he performs at an elite level those 3 years he will find a contract similar to what Freddy Freeman got 6years 160 and if you add the two amounts it will bring his total to 9 years 260, slightly better than what the Tigers offered him 10yr 275mil.

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  50. NYMETSHEA

    3 years ago

    After looking at his stats, I am amazed by his inability to stay healthy and hype surrounding him. Seems like a .260 ba, .360 obp, 25 hr shortstop that should be in demand, but not at the price that seems associated with him.

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    • solaris602

      3 years ago

      He has to produce like he did last year going forward to have any chance to score a $200M contract from someone in the near future. The injury history isn’t going away. Aaron Judge is playing for his next contract this year, but he’s basically in the same boat with Correa. Nobody gives an oft-injured player a mega contract……..or at least they shouldn’t. Mats are stuck with one in Strasberg which is the most obvious cautionary tale.

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  51. rememberthecoop

    3 years ago

    Coincidentally, so am I.

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  52. Rocker49

    3 years ago

    I bet if he went to the Yankees, his hitting would catch fire!!! He would fit right in with their extensive cheating ways. Makes the Astros look like beginners at the whole cheating thing after reading that letter yesterday! What a disgrace to baseball the Yankees and their fans are.

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    • mike156

      3 years ago

      Sigh….

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  53. Sabermetric Acolyte

    3 years ago

    What exactly is anyone expecting him to say “Yeah, I only really signed here because I could earn a lot now and figured something better would come along soon?”

    This is a courtesy comment to the ownership and the fans.

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  54. Rsox

    3 years ago

    If he really wants to stay don’t opt out. It’s that simple

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  55. ❤️ MuteButton

    3 years ago

    I’m sure he is open to anything that will pay him like Lindor got paid.

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