The Astros have landed the offensive upgrade they’d been seeking, acquiring first baseman Trey Mancini from the Orioles as part of a three-team trade. Center fielder José Siri goes from Houston to Tampa Bay, while a trio of pitching prospects also find themselves on the move. The Rays send Seth Johnson to the Orioles, while they move Jayden Murray to Houston. Chayce McDermott heads from the Astros to the Orioles to complete the deal. In order to clear a spot for Siri on the 40-man roster, Tampa Bay designated outfielder Brett Phillips for assignment.
Mancini has a .268/.347/.404 line through 401 plate appearances. He’s connected on just ten home runs, a bit shy of the 21-plus homer pace he posted in every healthy season between 2017-21. Despite the decreased power production, Mancini has an above-average 10% barrel rate and 89.6 MPH average exit velocity that are each in line with his career marks. It seems Mancini’s dip in longballs is more tied to changes in the ball and the Orioles’ deepening of the left field wall than an indication his power has truly taken a step back.
The right-handed hitting Mancini also has a typically solid blend of strikeouts and walks. He’s fanning in 21.4% of his plate appearances, a bit less than league average and among the lower rates of his career. Mancini’s a well-rounded bat who’ll presumably cut into the playing time of Yuli Gurriel. The reigning AL batting champion is a longtime member of the Houston organization, but he has an underwhelming .243/.293/.392 line on the year. Houston has reportedly been on the hunt for offensive upgrades who could supplant Gurriel on the depth chart. While the club was previously tied to Josh Bell and Willson Contreras, they’ve pivoted to Mancini.
It’s another addition to a Houston club that already boasts one of the league’s top lineups. The Astros enter play Monday with a .240/.318/.425 line that translates to offense 13 percentage points better than league average, according to wRC+. Houston’s raw run-scoring total is a bit less impressive, though, as the club ranks 12th in the majors with 461 runs scored.
Mancini has a bit of experience in the corner outfield, but he’s primarily an option at first base or designated hitter. The Astros have Kyle Tucker as their primary right fielder, but left fielder Michael Brantley has been on the injured list for over a month and still has an uncertain recovery timeline. Yordan Álvarez has designated hitter accounted for, leaving first base and perhaps some occasional fill-in work in left as the clearest path to playing time.
For the past few months, Mancini has looked like one of the better bats who might be available this summer. The Orioles, though, have gone 16-7 this month to pull themselves back to .500. Baltimore is within three games of the final Wild Card spot in the American League, seemingly at least raising some questions about how motivated they’d be to deal players off the MLB roster. At least in the case of Mancini, they remain committed to their goal of bolstering the roster for 2023 and beyond, but it’s a move that’s likely to disappoint at least some segment of the clubhouse and fanbase.
Mancini had been a career-long member of the organization, one of the few productive big leaguers to remain on the MLB roster throughout the franchise’s recent rebuild. He’s long been well-regarded in the community, and that’s become particularly true in the wake of his overcoming colon cancer in 2020. He was deservedly named the AL’s Comeback Player of the Year last season.
The 30-year-old Mancini is likely to be a free agent at season’s end, making him a rental pickup for the Astros. He’s playing this year on a $7.5MM salary, around $2.72MM of which is still to be paid out. Houston will assume that tab as well as the $250K buyout on a $10MM mutual option for 2023. (Mutual options are almost never exercised by both player and team, and Mancini seems likely to forego his end in search of a multi-year pact this winter).
Despite being at least vaguely in playoff contention, the Orioles will continue to look towards the future. They’ll add a pair of young arms, neither of whom is going to impact the club in 2022. Johnson is the more well-known of the duo. The 40th overall pick in the 2019 draft, he’s a former college shortstop who has flashed impressive stuff and dominated low level hitters in his limited time on the mound. Baseball America recently ranked him as the #9 prospect in a deep Rays system, praising his mid-upper 90s fastball and a slider that sometimes earns plus-plus grades (a 70 on the 20-80 scale) from evaluators. An excellent athlete, the 23-year-old is generally regarded as a possible mid-rotation starter, although he’s yet to reach Double-A.
Johnson pitched to a 2.88 ERA in 93 2/3 innings at Low-A last season, striking out an excellent 29% of opposing hitters. He’d fanned an even better 37.3% of batters faced through his first seven starts at High-A this year, but he’s been out since May 20 with an injury that’ll reportedly require Tommy John surgery. Johnson will have to be added to the 40-man roster at the end of this season or be exposed to the Rule 5 draft. As he faces an extended injury absence and not especially close to big league readiness, devoting him an offseason 40-man spot could be easier for the O’s than it’d have been a Tampa Bay team with plenty of upper level depth.
The Rays also part ways with Murray, whom they selected in the 23rd round of the 2019 draft. A Dixie State product, the right-hander has made a brief cameo at Triple-A but spent the bulk of the season at Double-A Montgomery. He owns a 2.83 ERA over 16 appearances (15 starts), offsetting a modest 20.5% strikeout rate with a tiny 7.3% walk percentage while inducing grounders on almost half the balls in play against him. He adds a volume strike-thrower and possible back-of-the-rotation arm to the upper levels of the Houston farm system; he’ll have to be added to the 40-man roster this winter or made available in the Rule 5 draft.
In exchange, Tampa Bay bolsters its immediate outfield mix. Siri, 27, is a former top Reds prospect who stalled out towards the end of his time in the Cincinnati system. He’s appeared in the majors in each of the past two seasons since signing a minor league deal with Houston over the 2020-21 offseason. Siri raked in a 21-game stint late last year, but he’s struggled over a longer follow-up this season. Through 196 cumulative plate appearances, he’s hitting .210/.265/.381 with a massive 33.2% strikeout rate as a big leaguer.
At the same time, it’s easy to see why he’s of interest to a Rays team that — even after picking up David Peralta over the weekend — is fairly short-handed in the outfield after losing Manuel Margot, Kevin Kiermaier and Harold Ramírez to injury. Siri has big power and speed, and he’s obliterated Triple-A pitching over 16 games this year. He hit .318/.369/.552 through 397 plate appearances at the minors top level last year, and he can be optioned to Triple-A Durham for the remainder of this season.
That isn’t the case for Phillips, who is out of minor league options. A gifted defensive outfielder, Phillips appeared in 75 games for Tampa Bay this season across all three spots on the grass. He’s hitting just .147/.225/.250 with a strikeout rate north of 40%, though, and the struggles at the plate became too much for the Tampa Bay front office to ignore. The Rays can deal Phillips over the next day, or he’ll find himself on waivers. He’s making $1.4MM, but his power, defense and affable clubhouse presence could lead another team to take a shot on him as a depth option.
McDermott, meanwhile, is the final piece of the deal from the Orioles perspective. A fourth-round pick out of Ball State last year, the 23-year-old righty has spent the season in High-A. He has a huge 35.4% strikeout rate through 72 innings there, starting 10 of his 19 outings. That has come with an alarming 13.4% walk rate, though. Baseball America recently named him the #6 prospect in a thin Houston farm system, praising his 92-96 MPH fastball and a pair of possible above-average breaking pitches in his slider and curveball.
Dan Connolly of the Athletic first reported Mancini was being traded to Houston. Roch Kutbako of MASNsports.com reported the Orioles were receiving multiple pitching prospects. Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic was first to report it was a three-team trade that would send Siri to Tampa Bay; Rosenthal was also first to report Johnson going to the Orioles. Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times reported the Rays’ designation of Phillips for assignment. Jeff Passan of ESPN was first with Baltimore’s acquisition of McDermott.
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Nobody’s stopping these guys…
NY Sea LA are certainly going to try.
Nobody is scared of Seattle.
Quick, somebody ask jjd002 what he thinks about the Mariners this year. He’ll be happy to tell you; I count at least once a day he goes out of his way to mention my M’s.
Firmly, squarely, all up in his head 🙂
I didn’t mention them.
Maybe a trashcan
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Mancini is honest and an inspiration, Astros are questionable…
You don’t know a damn thing about the Astros.
Crawl back under your rock.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
I’d love to crawl back under that rock, but you take up too much room, move over slug…
Spongebob and Patrick are fighting?
We know they stole a world series title and almost got another one by being cheaters when they didn’t need to be.
When was the “other one”?
Neon – The Astros have lost 2 of the last 3 World Series, so other teams HAVE been “stopping” them. I am not a Astros fan, but hope they can help the Dodgers loose in the Series, and the Yankees loosing in the playoffs.
Losing… not loosing…
Dumpster Divin Theo
Lousing- careful with your pets as we enter flea and tick season
The Dodgers are already loose.
@JC, that’s the past…stay loose!
Astros have been loose with the rules
That’s a weird way of saying they have won the AL 2 of the last 3 seasons.
The Yankees just added Montas, in addition to Benintendi last week. Mancini is a good add, the two AL powerhouses both got better, significantly. My money in on Yankees if I had to pick. Can’t count out the Jays but I think Astros/NY ALCS almost a certainty if no major injuries.
Maybe the Yankees can grab a 3-0 lead in the ALCS, then the Astros can take the next 4 games…..the Yankees would be the only team to choke a 3-0 seven game series lead twice.
Ok so we can all see you don’t care for well ran big market teams like the Dodgers and Yankees, thanks for clearing that up with us
Diehard Jays fan here.
Yes, you can count us out
Honestly, as an Astros fan the Jays are the only AL team I’m really worried about, besides New York.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Mancini’s Barrel Rate and xWOBAloney are cause for concern.
We will see about that. Healthy mets team if they make additions
For Love of the Game
Wow, now that’s a get! Wait until we see the price, but the ‘Stros have a pretty good farm system from which to deal.
For Love of the Game, They have a pretty good farm? What? They have a single player in the top 100 and he’s at 81. They have one of the worst systems pre-season they were ranked 29th out of 30 teams.
They have more than enough to get a rental.
I think too much is made out of farm system rankings. Stros have multiple solid prospects. Farm system rankings are based on who is in the top 100 – lots of good players in the majors who were not in the top 100.
Every year, the farm system gurus rank the Astros as having a weak farm system The system yes has been gutted over the last few years from trades and lack of draft picks but who exactly are we using as the end all be of all of judging if the system is weak or not but they keep churning out impactful big leaguers recently (Javier, Luis Garcia, Urquidy, Pena)
Rankings! Rankings… In reality they actually do have a pretty decent farm system. I just hope we didn’t give up too much and I’m thinking that’s why we traded for Trey Mancini instead of Josh Bell because Josh Bell was costing too much. We shall see what they gave up. But the Astros have several very excellent prospects that should be in anyone’s top 100 but… Hopefully we didn’t give you any of them up.
Astros pitching depth is the greatest in franchise history.
Next season, Astros project to have four players in the discussion for inclusion in the top 100.
Orioles got some talented arms.
The Astros farm has been better in the past, but they really haven’t been that good since the Correa/Springer/Bregman days. They had a top-heavy farm when both Tucker and Alvarez were top prospects still, but gutted it in trades. Still, despite having an average/slightly-above average farm, they still have produced a handful of good home grown players.
I guess you’re unfamiliar with Garcia, Javier, Peña, or Valdez?
Mike Piazza Pie
Smart move by Baltimore, depending on the return of course.
I know the O’s fans here wanted the team to go for it this year, but they’re better off stacking controllable talent for the future.
They may be getting a package back that can help this year.
Not if they are getting multiple players back. It would be be 1-1 trade (or more on both sides)
Mike Piazza Pie
I doubt it will contain any rentals though. You could be right about it helping this year but let’s be realistic, Baltimore likely isn’t winning the World Series this year.
They need to stay the course and not change plans because they have nice prospects and were in 4th place in the division for a few days.
Only one team is winning the World Series this year. That doesn’t mean every other team should just trade their best players to them.
True, probably not this year, but it seems with that loaded of a farm system they’d want ML or close to ML ready talent in return and not more prospects.
As the deadline comes to a end there might be some rentals going for clearance prices so maybe they add a decent enough replacement and see what happens.
Mike Piazza Pie
If I was a fan of Baltimore I would want them saving their bullets for next season.
Unless they have talent they can’t protect for the Rule 5 draft, but even then a rental gives them little help beyond a hope and a prayer at going far in the playoffs. If they even make the cut this year.
They are looking good and building the team the way the Astros did. No need to get impatient and damage their future chances, in my opinion.
Orioles have a backlog of COFs, 1Bs, DHs in the Minors to sort through. If they can trade Santander, Stowers and Diaz should get their chances asap.
Mike Piazza Pie
Good point Ra.
Baltimore needs to let the youngsters get ML reps.
I’m a fan of what Elias is doing. I’d hate to see them set themselves back by jumping the gun a season or 2 too early.
Which 1B is chomping at the bit in the high minors?
Lots. Players get converted to 1B from other positions all the time. Consider Orioles’ previous firstbasemen: Mountcastle, CDavis, MReynolds…
Diaz hasn’t really earned a chance to be honest.
Bell to Milwaukee next
Doubt it for rental.
Why even bother wasting your time writing that. The Astros aren’t trading him unless they get Juan soto back.
To get Soto, the Astros would have to trade four really good players, with or without Urquidy. Urquidy is good for the Orioles rotation, a hindrance to Houston’s.
Me too. I hope they gave you guys Urquidy. He is a very good pitcher. But we have a lot of depth at starting pitcher. I also think he would pitch well for you guys. I would like to see Baltimore have success. I kind of think it’s a shame they’re trading one of their best players right now when they’re technically in the middle of a playoff race. If you’re wondering who to think for that simply look at the teams spending 250 million plus dollars a year on their salaries for their players. The teams that hold the league back by refusing to allow for a real salary cap and balanced competition in the league so that every team can compete.
Baseball doesn’t need a salary cap, owners need to spend more money.
Bummer for the Baltimore. They have a puncher’s chance this year. They’re still thinking 2 years away for a run at it. Possibly next year.
It’s smart. Set yourself up for long term success
Celebrating in Baltimore!
And good luck to Trey.
Farhan Zaidi watching reruns of Storage Wars? Drooling over other peoples trash?
Come on Zaidi, do something!
Was Zaidi supposed to be the one trading Mancini? This move has nothing to do with the Giants’ selloff
No, I was speaking in general terms of no big Giant moves yet. Not specifically towards the Mancini deal.
but the O’s are playing .500 ball and need a leader ! Makes no sense …. I’m guessing the touch has been passed to Adley now.
Are you kidding?
You are not paying much attention to the franchise as a whole, clearly.
Nice pickup can play outfield first and dh
Well, he’s a good utility player. Hopefully, they can get some one else as well.
WOW Great move!!! Definitely needed another bat and got a good one!
Losing Mancini is going to be tough for O’s fans regardless of the return.
Wishing him well!
Got plenty replacements at high minors chomping at the bit.
As an Astros fan, really excited by this. Makes our lineup just that much more lengthy and solid. The Crawford Boxes will look really nice to Trey.
Trey lost several homers this year at Camden Yards due to the left field wall being moved back. He’ll love hitting in Houston.
What a blow to O’s fans. Management doesn’t believe in the team.
Mike Piazza Pie
To be fair, they’re a .500 team in 4th place in their division.
They’ll be in a better position in the future if they can add value for a player who’s a free agent in a few months.
Management is making a calculated decision based on the odds.
Thru are smart enough to know they aren’t there yet. They save some money and add for future.. but atleast before you condemn it you see what they got back..he wasn’t going to be back next year anyways
You have no idea Dave. Mancini has already been replaced in the lineup. If the Orioles got pitching, they have improved their chances of winning this year.
Probably the right move but a tough sell for the fanbase.
Contreras rightfully staying in Chicago
Does he bring his own trash can or will one be provided by Houston?
But it’s good to see ypou brought your garbage trash mouth here.
Looks like the Astros got their 1B upgrade
You are smart enough to know they weren’t going to trade a controlled starting pitcher for a 1B / DH for 2 months and the playoffs.
Still have no shot against the Yanks in a 7 game series(unless Mancini is bringing trash cans with him)
The Astros have owned New York this season.
Haha, totally different in a 7 game playoff series. Yanks ain’t worried about Houston.
The Yankees trade history over the past couple of days refute you.
@Bryzzo2016 If they ain’t then they’re a lot dumber than they seem. The Astros are the Yankees Daddy
If the “Yanks ain’t worried about Houston” then that is why they will probably lose.
Games played in July will be long forgotten in October. Although, other than Cole, the Astros starters are better.
Are you sure about that?
Huh? They’ve owned the Yankees lately
Yankees are so going to choke in their opening series.
Didn’t they go to the WS last year? Must really suck to see them still winning when you convinced yourself the only reason they won is because they cheated despite the Yankees being caught cheating as well lmao
Delusional. Stros have owned the Yanks since 2015. Yanks have a great team but the Stros are the team to beat. And everyone knows it.
Astros are Yankees kryptonite! They have dominated them of late.
As the resident Orioles fanatic I certainly trust Elias when it comes to the Astros system. I’m sure it’s a fine deal. Will still miss Boom Boom. Astros are getting a high quality human and a gritty ballplayer for the rest of the year. Wish him the best of luck!
Also we just dropped 2/3 to the Reds. Maybe if they sweep that series it’s a different outcome for Trey. Realistically though they are playing above their heads with the current SP staff and the organization knows that. Next year is the let’s compete year. This year is the ok fans invest in this team year. Logical fans can see that I’m sure. The organization certainly does.
C Yards Jeff
@bashBroJoe; me too, O’s fanatic. Agreed, their future is in the future, not now. I like your optimism (“next year is the let’s compete year”). That would be awesome! Because Rogriguez is injured and Hall is still in Norfolk, could we be delayed to 2024?
Noooooo I was desperate for the Braves to have him even before the season started ….
O’s should have just stood pat with what they had. They are legit contenders being just 3 GB in the wildcard. If they could just make a postseason appearance it would give the fanbase such a huge boost. I am a Braves fan and when they made their first appearance after the rebuild I was ecstatic and it didn’t even matter to me whether they won or not. But depending on the prospect haul, it could be worth it next year.
Just meaningless outsider nonsense. The Orioles are not in a similar position to the 2021 Braves this time last year. Plus, the Orioles very likely IMPROVED their chances for post-season this year with this trade.
I’m not talking about the 2021 Braves. I’m talking about the 2018 Braves. No one expected them to win but they did. And that did a lot for the fanbase just the feeling of winning something for once. And it would take a lot to replace the leader of the team. I have no idea how you could say they improved their chances. This stings for the team and fanbase alike.
People that follow the Orioles knew he was probably moving.
The fans gave him a standing O in his last AB at home the other night. He hit a inside-the-park HR.
Baltimore being realistic yes, only 3 games back of the WC BUT they know they can’t compete with the Yanks in a 7 game series even IF they made the playoffs. The White Sox (also 3 games back in the WC) should take the same approach, but they won’t. They’ll deplete their already worst farm in baseball just to MAYBE make the post season and get sent him early again.
Sox owner is in the 4th quarter. He is all in. Or at least in. Doubt he wants to spend 4 years rebuilding.
The right move. They had one hot streak and just over the weekend lost 2 of 3 to the lowly Reds. No need to go for it because of one hot streak.
Wow. That’s a tough pill to swallow. Fan favorite, guy everyone in the league cheers when he steps in the box….on easily the most hated team in league.
I understand it But it will suck to see him in that uniform.
Yeah, what a bummer, he may actually win something now. Real shame.
Well shouldn’t they hate their GM too? He came from Houston when they were stealing signs.
True. Just saying for the average fan, there’s a big connection with Mancini and a big stain on the stros.
I understand that and the hypocrisy throughout the whole thing is unreal. Some people got by with no crap, while others unfairly take the burden.
Mancini did not get traded to the Yankers.
If the Yanks and Stros play again in the postseason, everyone outside of Houston and Boston will cheer for the Yanks.
I do find the Boston angst hilarious, though. They boo Altuve for doing what Brady and Belicheat did for years and the Sox haven’t sniffed their 2018 Apple Watch campaign or won without roid freak Ortiz.
You know that how?
Did you halve to have therapy during the steroid era?
I don’t live in Houston or Boston and I’m rooting for the Astros. You know why? Because they have the best organization in MLB. Period. I support intelligence and hard work.
Good for Mancini. Hope he enjoys the ride.
The hot stove just burned my hand off!
A quality man, one known for his character, going to the Astros. Will he fit in?
Maybe learn something before you type and sound stupid.
Why wouldn’t he fit in? The guy that started it works for the Yankees. They haven’t thrown any other team under the bus for what they had to take the fall for. Plenty of high character guys in Houston.
Astros fans are getting not only a good baseball player, but a great person. Good luck to Trey…it’ll be weird rooting for Houston…
You don’t have to. He’ll be gone from there in a couple months.
I want him to win though
Me too but somewhere else
Wise for Baltimore to explore a trade for fan favorite Mancini. Worst case if they didn’t get a return they liked, they could have QO’d him in the offseason. Surprised Astros acquired Trey being that not many rumors of their interest in him were present.
My guess is Washington is over playing their hand and have way too high of an asking price for Bell.
So much for Mancini going to the Mets but if the O’s wanted top pitching prospects then the Mets weren’t really in play anyhow.
Mancini is a good guy, and has been through a lot, so I hope Houston is good for him.
Mancini is an easy guy to root for but I hate the fact he went to Houston. Garbage character of an organization.
If Elias is willing to deal Mancini, you can expect Lyles, Odor (if any takers), and Lopez to be next on the list.
Lopez and Odor are not going anywhere.
Astros have him for next year too. Huge W for Houston.
Mutual option for $10 million I believe.
As noted, it’s a mutual option. He’s a free agent after this season. The Astros can certainly sign him, but it will be a market rates and a longer-term deal.
Was hoping Baltimore could keep, but if he had to go, then I was wanting the Rays to get him…
Is Siri an upgrade from Phillips I don’t know that it is
Is he? Glove and speed, RH, BP was great in clubhouse.
Siri is already 26. He cannot even hit the Mendoza Line. Sorry, looks like another strange trade. We couldnt get more than this for our sixth ranked prospect, regardless of health? (A 46-AB small sample from last year means nothing…can’t hit a lick with real AB’s this year.)
Or, is he an upgrade over Josh Lowe, who they just sent down? Lowe was finally looking comfortable and on a seven-game hitting streak when he was sent down. Perhaps they view Lowe more as a corner OFer.
Burt, yes, Burt Phillips is a good dude. Good outfielder, great arm. Just can’t hit. Gotta try someone else.
Don’t forget his laugh. He could be flipped to San Diego so he can be closer to a zoo –
Siri is like they combined Willie Mays Hays, Pedro Cerrano, and the Japanese guy from the sequel into one player. With all of their strengths but especially all of their weaknesses.
Ok. I love me a three team trade. Now THIS feels like a trade deadline.
Means Phil’s have to look for another CF.
Lenny Dykstra’s available
Phillips to Phil’s or Braves.
Lol classic Rays, trading for a .178 hitter. Our problems are solved!
Can we at least trade for someone who hits OVER the Mendoza Line???
BP is not a good hitter, but great glove and great clubhouse presence. Good luck, fellow fans, we’ll need it.
Glad the Rays got Siri!
I’ll miss Brett Phillips.
Jose Siri is like if they combined Willie Mays Hays, Pedro Cerrano, and the Japanese guy from the sequel into one player, with all of their strengths but especially all of their weaknesses.
Brett ): I mean you kinda stunk but we’re so likeable
I would love to have Brett Phillips on the Cardinals as our CF if we trade Carlson for Soto til Bader gets back!!
Oh NO not Brett Phillips…Not a Tampa fan but love that guy and how he always seems to be having fun…Wish Toronto had a spot for him but they don’t. Hope someone picks him up.
Good on the Orioles to get someone who’s already damaged goods. Gets the disappointment out of the way early.
C Yards Jeff
@baseballpun; agreed, pretty risky going after a TJ guy, I believe. That said, Elias has done this before with success. Not via a trade but through rule 5 draftee Tyler Wells.
By the way, Detroit says they may be willing to trade controllable pitchers. There one guy Mize is recovering from TJ surgery. I’m thinking he is on Elias’s radar? Detroit needs position prospects, Os need pitching; so maybe?
Gurriel is finally starting to hit the past few weeks. Gee did he not with the Batting title last year… I think Mancini bats left so maybe they can platoon a bit…If you hit you play so Mancini may have to play some OF… But then Dias has been hot lately too…
Mancini is a right handed hitter.
Mancini is hitting lhp rhp. Rhp better. With outfield, pinch hitting, dh, plenty of abs.
Mancini has played both corner outfield positions a lot in his career, I think he starts in LF until Brantley gets back…. If he comes back.
So who goes to the A’s?
Not the “fans” in Oakland to watch them play.
I don’t think that’s the correct Seth Johnson link.
Not crazy excited about the return but we’ll reconvene in 3 years or so.
Upgrade over Brett Phillips but man I’m going to miss that man’s 31 mph sweeping breaking ball! He was and still is one hell of a, up by 20 runs, relief pitcher!
Who won this trade, Houston or Baltimore?
Win – win. Astros win now, Orioles win later while saving cash now.
BAL for sure. HOU tbd
Birds TBD, Astros win, TB loss
From a Stros fan perspective, this is a solid trade. Mancini adds immediate length to our lineup, and we get a minor league starter arm Jayden Murray for the longer term. We had to give up McDermott who is is a talented minor leaguer (really good stuff, could be a starter at major league level in a couple of years), and Jose Siri who is talented but has trouble making contact at the major league level.
From an Astros fan perspective I think it’s an outright steal.
I like Trey but I prefer Josh Bell!
Orioles able to increase the quality of return by taking a guy that will miss next 1.5 years and requires a roster spot due to rule 5 status. Risky move but I’m on board
This is the exact sort of deal Baltimore should’ve made to move Mancini. Love Trey, wish him all the best and hope he makes it back through free agency!
“Hey Siri, go play in Tampa!”
I love a good 3 way. C for Astros and Rays. Both gave up great but not elite pitching prospects. Still lots of work to be done with them if they are to be starters. Siri is no loss. They don’t believe they can get anymore out of him. The Rays feel differently. Interesting player to follow. I think the Rays made a nice play.
A for BAL. Very nice arms for a non star rental.
My annual trade deadline rash is back.
The next person who calls them the ‘Trashtros’ or refers to the “cheating” in any way (all teams “cheat”, as much as the deniers would like to pretend otherwise), there’s going to be a problem.
Not sure all teams cheat is accurate. Regardless, the Astros had a plan so dumb it was easily rooted out.
Trashstros or the Astroesks are both appropriate names.
Shocked one of the prospects need Tommy John surgery especially if he needs to be protected for the upcoming rule 5 draft..but hopefully they know more than me but I woulda just held on to him for that.. time will tell
Decent return for the O’s. Astro’s #12 and Rays #6. Not having a deep run in the playoffs this year (if we even make it) so it makes sense to continue to build for a solid future.
Johnson was a 1st round pick 3 years ago. If he recovers from TJ surgery, his earliest appearance in majors would be 2025. Seems like a long time, but he’d only be 26. McDermott’s only 23 and was a 4th rounder last year. As an O’s fan, this is how you have to build your minor leagues – by taking high prospects who may not be ready on paper.
The return isn’t great for the orioles (astros 24th and rays 12th prospect) but that’s what you get for a limited corner slugger in these days, that’s not what the market wants.
Likely none of those two prospects will ever be more than a low leverage reliever but if you get two low leverage relievers out of a rental corner guy it has paid off for the Os.
BAL waited too long and got burnt.
Huh? How so exactly? They got a great return for what’s essentially a rental, mid level player. Excellent move by BAL.
Hoping this isn’t Aubrey Huff for Ben Zobrist 2.0
I always liked Joseph Anthony “Trey” Mancini, would have made a good Yankee, you can never have too many Italians on the team.
Sorry, the trade had to be to “THAT” team, hope he doesn’t pick up any bad habits playing there.
You talking about the habits Beltran picked up in New York and took to Houston?
No, he’s talking about the ones he brought to Houston and the Astros implemented.
That he learned in New York prior to his stop in Houston.
Rays and Astros just got better.
Another right handed bat, why not
I don’t understand the rays involvement in this deal or why they would want Siri … he’s terrible, like very bad terrible
One of Baseball’s legit best stories going for it gets traded to one of its worst…
Love Mancini. Hope he gets a ring. He deserves it.
Brrett Phillips dfa.can help a team defensively but he’ll probably be outright to triple A
Good to see the orioles trade a player of value and continue the “rebuild.” I don’t care who they got in return or what his contract status is. The orioles fans have to be so tired of this never ending nonsense.
Mancini is an easy guy to root for but I hate the fact he went to Houston. Garbage character of an organization.
First team to take care of their minor leaguers living situations and helped another team’s pitcher get to the all star game equals garbage organization?
The best organization in MLB for years….hands down.
I take some of it back –
At least they’re doing something positive with the money they stole during they’re 2017 WS Championship run. But that still doesn’t nullify their tepid action to Yuli Gurriel’s racist behavior nor they’re disingenuous response to other organization’s questions about them cheating –
“And then when I get contacted about some questions about whistling, it made me laugh because it’s ridiculous. And had I known that it would take something like that to set off the Yankees or any other team, we would have practiced it in Spring Training. And we would have got — it apparently works, even when it doesn’t happen.
“So to me, I understand the gamesmanship. I understand kind of creating a narrative for yourself or wondering how things are going. Now, the game in question, you know, we got three hits and no runs. And so nobody heard it. You guys have audio, video, people in places and nothing — and there’s no evidence of anything.” – AJ Hinch
AJ Hinch is not part of the Astros organization anymore. He was let go. Time for you to let go too.
Riiiiiight. Just let go of the cheating and blatant racism. Got it, Master.
What was the racism stuff?
Mancini, a really good guy by all accounts, going to Houston. It doesn’t seem right.
As much as it stinks to see Trey go, it makes business sense because he wasn’t going to be re-signed. They’re giving him a chance to play in the postseason and get two potentially useful pitchers.
And if you’re watching them tonight, they clearly aren’t going to quit. This team is fun to watch and will be relevant again very soon. I’d love to see them make a move for a controllable pitcher like Lopez or Skubal before the deadline. Add them with Rodriguez and Hall, plus a healthy Means and you have a really nice rotation.