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Yankees To Recall Estevan Florial, Oswaldo Cabrera

By Steve Adams | August 17, 2022 at 7:47am CDT

The Yankees are set to call up outfielder Estevan Florial, as first reported by Bob Klapisch of the Newark Star-Ledger (Twitter link). New York will also promote infielder Oswaldo Cabrera for his Major League debut, Daniel Alvarez Montes of El Extra Base reports. Both players are already on the 40-man roster. The Yankees have yet to formally announce the pair of promotions or the corresponding moves that will accompany them, although Cabrera has confirmed his first call to the Show on his Instagram.

This is the second call to the Majors this year for the 24-year-old Florial and the third season in which he’s received some big league action. Despite already receiving several MLB opportunities, however, Florial has appeared in just 16 Major League games and taken 40 plate appearances as a member of the big league club, hitting just .206/.325/.353 in that time.

That lack of production, of course, have come with sparse playing time. Florial has never gotten a true look and regular playing time at the big league level, despite ranking among the game’s top 50 or so prospects from 2018-19. His stock has dimmed since that time — due in no small part to a tepid .218/.315/.404 slash in Triple-A last season. However, Florial is enjoying a vastly better run in his second Triple-A stint this year, batting .286/.368/.490 with 14 home runs, 26 doubles, a pair of triples and a hefty 32 stolen bases.

Florial’s huge 30.8% strikeout rate in Triple-A isn’t an improvement over last year’s 30.9% mark, so the lack of bat-to-ball skills are a clear concern (and another reason he’s perhaps not as highly touted as a few years ago). Nonetheless, with the Yankees stumbling through a dismal 3-12 stretch over the past couple weeks that includes just nine total runs over their past seven games, they’ll look to augment the lineup and get some fresh faces into the mix in hopes of turning things around.

In addition to Florial, the Yankees will give the 23-year-old Cabrera his first call to the Majors. A switch-hitter who’s seen time at second base, shortstop, third base and in the outfield corners this year (albeit just one game in left and one in right), Cabrera will give skipper Aaron Boone plenty of versatility. He’s batting .262/.340/.492 through 208 Triple-A plate appearances with eight homers, a dozen doubles, three triples and ten steals to go along with a 9.4% walk rate and 26.6% strikeout rate.

While neither Florial nor Cabrera is necessarily among the sport’s overall top-ranked prospects, they’re both well-regarded within the Yankees’ system. Baseball America ranks Florial as the team’s No. 10 prospect and Cabrera at No. 12, while MLB.com places them back-to-back at Nos. 14 (Cabrera) and 15 (Florial).

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  1. Mickey777

    3 years ago

    Say goodbye to Marwin. So glad they are finally giving Florial a chance!!!

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    • Joe says...

      3 years ago

      The team definitely needs a spark. They’ve been pure garbage recently.
      Cabrera and Florial might fall flat on their faces but they deserve the chance. Hopefully Hicks is gone.

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      • Mickey777

        3 years ago

        Agree completely!!! Was surprised they called up Cabrera instead of Peraza. Is Peraza injured?

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        • Joe says...

          3 years ago

          I haven’t heard about Peraza being hurt. I assume this will most likely be a temporary call up and they don’t want to start the clock on Peraza.

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        • whatwouldyogido

          3 years ago

          Peraza isn’t injured, but he has more limited defensive versatility. Cabrera can play 5 positions, Peraza 2. I’m wondering who backs up Rizzo with DJ hurting.

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        • Ancient Pistol

          3 years ago

          Peraza belted a few homers over the past few days.

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        • higgy5220

          3 years ago

          It’s probably Marwin

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      • Mickey777

        3 years ago

        @Joe says. Cabrera is hot as an article in the Ny Post reposted. OPS in last 7 days about 1.3. That could be another reason for the recall of Cabrera instead of Peraza. We really need to get a clearer picture of what our infield will look like for the rest of the year and for next year.

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    • RobM

      3 years ago

      I suspect Marwin remains. My fear is DJ LeMahieu is going on the IL.

      Locastro gets sent down for Florial.

      They did put Holmes on the IL, so they have an open spot. They need to get Marinaccio back up, but this could be a two step. Perhaps LeMahieu won’t go on the IL, but they need another bat, so up comes Cabrera for a game or two, and then he goes back once DJ is ready to return to the lineup.

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      • higgy5220

        3 years ago

        I think your right. I think it’s DJ to IL, Lacastro optioned, holmes to IL; and the 3 get called up. They need arms so I can’t see them sitting on that move.

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      • Poster formerly known as . . .

        3 years ago

        Randy Miller of NJ.com says:

        “Florial likely will swapped for spare outfielder Tim Locastro, who can be optioned.”

        He also thinks D.J. will be going to the 10-day IL.

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    • alumofuf

      3 years ago

      Glad to get rid of any former Houston Cheaters on our team!

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      • Poster formerly known as . . .

        3 years ago

        You want to get rid of Cole?

        As for Marwin, you’re probably going to be disappointed. I doubt they’re dumping him.

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  2. Salvi

    3 years ago

    In a corresponding move, the Yankees will waive Andrew Benintendi. Lol. Nice trade there Cashman. That one’s working out great! How many pitching prospects did you give up for him?

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    • pando8888

      3 years ago

      He is the only one at the trade deadline worth anything. Guess you don’t watch everyday but he is coming around. The problem now is they have no roster space because of these trades and can’t bring relief pitching up and down like they were with Ron Marinocci, Clark Schmidt and JP Seats who they traded away. All who were performing well. Not to mention stupid trade losing Montgomery.

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      • Salvi

        3 years ago

        “He is the only one at the trade deadline worth anything.”

        Tommy Pham is far outplaying him, and cost next to nothing, because of a fantasy football thing. Benintendi couldn’t handle Fenway, hows he suppose to handle Yankee Stadium.

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        • ctguy

          3 years ago

          Good for Tommy Pham. The Red Sox are still in last place.

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        • Salvi

          3 years ago

          Red Sox have 4 World Championships this century, Yankees 1 (same amount as the Marlins and the DBacks). Good for Cashman producing another above .500 team again. If I were a fan, I’d expect more from those payrolls, just saying.

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        • ctguy

          3 years ago

          Why only count this century? The true history shows which team has won more championships.

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        • pinstripes17

          3 years ago

          The Red Sox are a last place joke and Tommy Pham is irrelevant. Andrew Benintendi got Fenway a World Series. So much for not being able to handle it. You’re clueless.

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        • Salvi

          3 years ago

          Why bring up what place Red Sox are in? It was an obvious response. Yankees fans seem far too proud of being good now a days, as opposed to being great. Shoot you don’t even have the best record in your town.

          Besides, century is a good cutoff, I couldve gone with the last decade, Red Sox 2, Yankees 0. But, hey you want to pretend its still the 1900’s, you go right ahead.

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        • Ancient Pistol

          3 years ago

          You mean two. 2000 is part of this century.

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        • Salvi

          3 years ago

          I mean one. Learn when centuries begin and end. But, on the bright side, it makes the 1900’s that much more special for you.

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        • lloyd_christmas

          3 years ago

          I think StarvinMarvin forgot to eat his Snickers

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        • higgy5220

          3 years ago

          He hasn’t been amazing but he has been perfectly fine for giving up 3 low A prospects

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          Geez, man, you’re a fund of misinformation.

          Benintendi couldn’t handle Fenway? This is his stat line at Fenway:

          .279/.350/.449/.799

          He batted .333 in five games in the World Series.

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  3. Old York

    3 years ago

    Yankees are reeling from a garbage time trade deadline. Couldn’t even be bothered to sweep the Red Sox. They’re lucky that the Blue Jays are also trash as of late.

    This transaction smells of desperation.

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    • Bright Side

      3 years ago

      Smells more like logic. Hicks and IKF are terrible. Florial and Cabrera were mashing in AAA and had nothing more to prove in the miners. Sadly, Cashman remains stubborn in regards to replacing Gleyber with Peraza.

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      • Joe says...

        3 years ago

        Their problems don’t have anything to do with IKF. He’s been pretty much the guy he’s always been with just less power. He was never expected to be anything more than a place holder. He is replaceable though.

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        • Mickey777

          3 years ago

          @Joe says. Agree that IKF has been fine, but I think that in perfect world he’s your utility infielder. I read the updated prospects reports and scouts are now saying Volpe is probably should play second. Wow if he not the shortstop of the future why didn’t we sign a big time SS last off season? Troublesome. I guess we could go after Trea Turner this off season.

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        • emac22

          3 years ago

          Their problems have everything to do with IKF being the SS instead of someone better.

          It’s not the only problem and it’s not all his fault. I’d even argue Donaldson was the bigger mistake but IKF is replacement level and the poster boy for one of the worst offseasons we could have had.

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        • pinstripes17

          3 years ago

          IKF’s defense has been horrific, you can live with the lack of offense if he was a defense first player but he hasn’t been. Time for them to move on from him.

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        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          3 years ago

          IKF. More like Tina Turner than Trea Turner.

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        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          3 years ago

          IKF might be about defense. But he don’t trust defense. Military industrio complex he say

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          His defense hasn’t been horrific. He’s credited with 5 Defensive Runs Saved, 1.5 UZR/150, 1.2 DWAR and 1.3 Def. OAA doesn’t like his defense, but I don’t think you can base an opinion on a single stat that conflicts with most of the others.

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      • Old York

        3 years ago

        @Bright Side

        I’m not saying it wasn’t justified to promote them, however, it seems like desperation that they’re needing to call some guys up when they messed up the trade deadline to actually add pieces. So, now, they’re going to hope things work out because Hicks & IKF are garbage time players.

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      • Sideline Redwine

        3 years ago

        IKF is about defense. It is no coincidence the Yankees are better this year, and their pitchers’ stats are improved. Need good defense at SS, IKF provides that. As a Rays fan, I’d love if they replaced him with a guy with worse defense.

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        • emac22

          3 years ago

          Of course you would.

          The goal in NY isn’t to take a bad player and replace him with someone worse.

          It’s to get players who can play offense and defense.

          I know that for a Rays fan the idea of spending money for a two way player is a real mind blower but there are lots of guys who can play well on offense and defense and your team is better if you have them.

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        • stymeedone

          3 years ago

          @emac
          Every team that signed one of the “Elite” crop of FA SS’s this past off season would gladly trade them to NY. Only Correa is providing a .260 ave,but his power and defence have declined. With IKF you are getting what you paid for. Seiman can’t get on base, Segar only hits the occasional dinger, Baez has forgotten how to throw, and still can’t hit, Story has been injured. Twins are hoping Correa opts out. Even though he’s better than Baez, Detroit is glad he didn’t accept the highest offer he received. Which of these “two way” players would you have liked to have dropped $30MM per year on?

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        • emac22

          3 years ago

          Do people really follow the Yankees now to see good values? Getting what they paid for isn’t even a reason to look for a box score. This is an entertainment industry.

          As for big free agents starting really slow after they spend a whole year working as hard as they can to get a big contract I just have to ask if you really thinking going into the playoffs with Donaldson and IKF feels like a smart option compared to Correa & the center fielder they should have gotten instead of Gallo.

          I’m not saying you have to go top of the market but when your planning fails you can’t just go with longshots or safely league average players year after year at key positions. You can do that at your secondary positions but year after year at catcher, CF and SS just isn’t OK.

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      • BmoreBallistics

        3 years ago

        Ikf isn’t terrible. Cmon use your brain buddy. For what he is getting paid and knowing the 2 ss prospects be up soon to take his place. He is doing job. Not every player 1-9 can have stud WAR.

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        • emac22

          3 years ago

          He’s not terrible on a per dollar basis but he’s terrible on a production per plate appearance for a starter on a big market team with playoff aspirations.

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      • Ella B

        3 years ago

        @Bright Floral has some good power numbers but his k rate is 30%. Dude might be a decent bench piece, nothing more.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          The most PA Florial had in the majors was 25 in 2021. His K% was 24.0% and his BB% was 20.0%. If he can show that kind of plate discipline this time, the Yankees should be delighted.

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      • johnnybadd2019

        3 years ago

        I’m hoping Gleyber Is gone by the winter meetings

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    • Bright Side

      3 years ago

      Smells more like logic. Hicks and IKF are terrible. Florial and Cabrera were mashing in AAA and had nothing more to prove in the minors. Sadly, Cashman remains stubborn in regards to replacing Gleyber with Peraza.

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    • Samuel

      3 years ago

      The Blue Jays are not ” trash as of late”.

      The Orioles are very good.

      Try to keep up.

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      • Old York

        3 years ago

        @Samuel

        They’re 11-11 since the break. They’ve lost control of the #1 wild card spot and close to losing it to the Orioles. For a team expected to be competitive in the playoffs, that is not looking great.

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        • Samuel

          3 years ago

          The Orioles are 4-0 against the Jays since the All-Star break. That’s why the O’s are gaining ground for the WC and the Jays are losing.

          The O’s and Jays have 11 more games remaining against one another this year. I hardly expect the O’s to sweep, but I do expect them to win more than they lose. The O’s are a tight team that plays opportunistic fundamental baseball – something the Jays, Yankees, and Red Sox do not.

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        • Old York

          3 years ago

          @Samuel

          Yes, the O’s are 15-9 since the break, but given that the Jays were supposed to be doing better than the O’s this year, I’d say the Jays are playing trash baseball right now, as are the Yankees. Red Sox had no plan to win this year so it isn’t a surprise they are terrible. What is surprising is that they’re 4-games back of a wild card spot.

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        • Dumpster Divin Theo

          3 years ago

          Samuel must be fun at parties

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  4. Yanks2

    3 years ago

    More overhyped prospects that Cashman will hold onto for years as they all lose their trade value and then lose them to free agency for nothing

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    • Begottenson

      3 years ago

      So true

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  5. Ronk325

    3 years ago

    I’m glad to see these two are getting a chance. I never want to see Miguel Andujar or Marwin Gonzalez attempt to play baseball again. Now we just need Peraza up to replace IKF

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    • Yanks2

      3 years ago

      IKF isn’t that bad

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      • Ronk325

        3 years ago

        He has a .640 OPS and plays barely passable defense at one of the most important positions in the field. Peraza is a better defender and has much higher offensive upside

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        • Yanks2

          3 years ago

          Peraza hasn’t played in the majors yet

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        • DarkSide830

          3 years ago

          barely passable LMAO

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        • Darryl Rose

          3 years ago

          His defense is average at best.

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        • Yanks2

          3 years ago

          I’ve watched him play SS and he seems fine defensively

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          I don’t know if you’re aware of this but every player in MLB, even the stars, was once a guy who never played in the majors. The whole point of bringing in IKF was to be a stopgap for either Peraza or Volpe. Peraza is now big league ready but is being blocked by a mediocre player for no reason. At some point the Yankees have to give their own prospects a chance to play. Otherwise they get stuck paying big money to declining veterans like Donaldson

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          Outs above average, the most accurate defensive metric for infielders, has IKF at -3. So barely passable would actually be giving him too much credit

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        • Yankeesforever

          3 years ago

          and what does that mean in tangible outcomes on the field?
          What exactly does a -3 look like on the field compared to someone who is a 0.

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          It’s not what they look like, it’s what the metric dictates. A 0 would be neutral. Like any other stat your OAA could go up or down depending on how you’re playing

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        • Yankeesforever

          3 years ago

          people throw metrics around like they are verses from the bible, but i wonder how many people actually know what they mean.
          I am asking if you put a video together of IKF -4 and Corey Seager who is +2 to compare, what would we see?
          Would it be like watching Judge and Gallo hitting, would it be that obvious and drastic?
          or are we going bonkers over numbers that when playout on the field is barely noticeable and over the length of a season pretty much inconsequential

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        • Joe says...

          3 years ago

          OAA and DRS can’t even agree with each other. I think the eyeball test goes a long way in defensive evaluations provided a person knows what they’re looking for.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          You’re using a single metric while ignoring his positive numbers in DRS, UZR, UZR/150, Def and DWAR.

          Did you just overlook all those metrics or did you choose to ignore them?

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          No, I didn’t ignore anything. OAA is most accurate for infielders, DRS is most accurate for outfielders, and UZR is mostly junk

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        • Gasu1

          3 years ago

          How can you declare it the “most accurate defensive metric for infielders”? It’s only been in use for infielders since 2019. mlb.com/news/statcast-introduces-outs-above-averag…

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        • Gasu1

          3 years ago

          IKF has the 12th highest success rate among shortstops, out of 36. So in terms of tangible outcomes, the OAA metric means diddly. It’s based on an extremely stripped down model of the physical interactions of fielder, runner and ball; and no one really knows how much an error in the model effects the outcome.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          I’ve never heard those assertions before. Can you expand on them? I’d like to hear how you validate them.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          I’ve never heard those assertions before. Can you expand on them? I’d like to hear how you validate them.

          This is directed at you, Ronk, in reply to this:

          “OAA is most accurate for infielders, DRS is most accurate for outfielders, and UZR is mostly junk.”

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          What does the year the stat was introduced have to do with anything? It was created as a different way to measure defense than the stats that were available at the time. I truly don’t understand your angle here

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          No, but google is your friend

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          If that’s your reply to me, it’d serve you better to just say: “I can’t expand on my statements, nor can I validate them.” To try to palm off on me the responsibility for validating your dubious statements is exceedingly weak.

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          It’s not my responsibility to explain to you how stats work. Nor is it your responsibility to look them up. I’m not going to type paragraphs on here to give you info that is readily available elsewhere

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          Translation: “I can’t, so I won’t.”

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          Here’s an article since you don’t know how google works. I’m sure you’ll come back with another response saying it’s just one person’s opinion and your eye test is more accurate than a formula developed by people who get paid for their work.

          draysbay.com/platform/amp/2020/4/15/21219514/mlb-d…

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          Thanks for the link. Turned out you didn’t have to type paragraphs; all you had to do was post a link to other people’s work.

          Although, this statement was ridiculous:

          “The article, Measuring Defensive Accuracy in Baseball, by Jonathan Judge and Sean O’Rourke, is free for all, although you must have a Baseball Prospectus account to read it.”

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          BTW, the statement “UZR is mostly junk” seems to be derived from Mr. Malinowski’s inaccurate summation of the Baseball Prospectus article, which credited UZR with the second-best read on third base defense:

          “A similar story to shortstop, although UZR jumps to a solid second place. OAA still has substantially more expected accuracy than other systems.”

          But thanks again for the link. Following the imbedded link to the original BP article made me aware for the first time that there was a no-charge basic membership level I could access. I’m pleased about that.

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          It was a simple google search away from being right in front of your eyes. Maybe try not to be so lazy in the future

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          And you try not to be so lazy, dismissive and uncooperative as to refuse to post a link to an article — or even to name the site or the author — when obviously your entire post was based on that writer’s analysis. Deal?

          As for me, other readers here can attest that I regularly include both statistics and links in my comments — so which of us is really the lazy one?

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        • Ronk325

          3 years ago

          I wasn’t the one who needed the breakdown on defensive metrics. Usually the onus falls on the person seeking the info

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          BTW, did you read the original BP article or only Malinowski’s interpretation on SBNation? Malinowski states:

          “There’s little reason to use UZR these days, at least in its original form. It throws out the plays that are shifted, and teams shift all the time. While that can tell us something, that something is now better told by other metrics.”

          But the authors of the original analysis show that UZR grades second to OAA at both second and third base in both Predictive Quality and Relative Weights. That would hardly indicate that UZR is useless.

          What’s more, their analysis is rating the accuracy of the various systems specifically in the team context. They’re aggregate ratings incorporating the metrics for all fielders at all the rated positions.

          “Evaluating defensive metrics feels almost as tricky as measuring defense itself. In a recent evaluation at the Athletic, Eno Sarris looked at a variety of factors, including the year-to-year correlation among statistics. He found that all of them were rather weak by traditional measures (a Pearson coefficient below .5), and that Outs Above Average, in theory the most sophisticated entrant, seemed to be weaker on this measure than DRS and UZR.

          “We certainly support the use of year-to-year correlations as one benchmark of metric accuracy, when appropriate, and have promoted them ourselves for statistics like DRC+. We also accept that year-to-year correlations of fielder quality have some value in evaluating defensive metric quality. However, this only considers individual fielders in isolation. Thus, we think that defensive metric quality is better evaluated at the team level: this checks that a system is allocating credit properly among the various positions in the field. Teams, unfortunately, cannot usually be directly compared from one season to the next. But, by using a system of cross-validation, we can still assess the probable accuracy of a defensive metric without assuming that a second season of data is equivalent in signal to the previous one.

          “So, recognizing that defenses are, in the end, a system of players, we think an important measure of defensive metric quality is this: taking all balls in play that remained in the park for an entire season — over 100,000 of them in 2019 — which system on average most accurately measures whether an out is probable on a given play? This, ultimately, is what matters. Either you get more hitters out on balls in play or you do not. The better that a system can anticipate that a batter will be out, the better the system is.

          “Baserunning assists, home run robberies, ESPN Top 10 plays . . . they make for lovely viewing. They also have relatively little value to the overall performance of any defense. Rather, quality defense largely comes from the reliability of defenders making routine plays. So, while we don’t mean to suggest there isn’t value in tracking some of the extreme aspects that make certain plays fail or succeed, these plays are the exception, not the rule. Again, either a defense is getting more outs or it is not. Properly allocating credit among defenders for those outs is the job of a defensive metric.”

          Their analysis, therefore, leaves out of account the longstanding proviso that ideally three seasons’ worth of stats are needed to get a read on a particular defender. Their analysis used only statistics from 2019.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          “I wasn’t the one who needed the breakdown on defensive metrics. Usually the onus falls on the person seeking the info.”

          No, the responsibility for providing proofs of a statement always belongs to the person making the statement.

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    • all in the suit that you wear

      3 years ago

      duplicate post

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    • all in the suit that you wear

      3 years ago

      I doubt they will DFA IKF at this point in the season and get nothing in return for him.

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      • Yankeesforever

        3 years ago

        I believe IKF has options to be sent down

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        • all in the suit that you wear

          3 years ago

          I see. Got it.

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  6. BaseballClassic1985

    3 years ago

    This is something that needs to be tried, as this team is moribund. If nothing else, it might kick some veterans in the ass to wake tf up. The middle school hitting coach needs to be looked at as well.

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  7. Samuel

    3 years ago

    Where are all the articles complaining about the Yankees manipulating Florial’s service time? He’s been their best defensive CF for years. And why did they have to trade a quality starting pitcher for a defensive CF when they already had one that would play for cheap.

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    • emac22

      3 years ago

      It’s not about service time.

      It’s about Cashman not wanting to promote prospects unless they can hit the ground running. It make him look bad and and he’s decided there is less risk to trading for someone cheap that fans wont complain about if he fails.

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    • BuffaloBrad716312

      3 years ago

      That is the major point. Bader may be decent offensively but paying for defense is dumb. Couldn’t kept Montgomery and played Florial or signed Billy Hamilton. Both upgrade the CF defense significantly.. Bader is a better hitter but not by much

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      • emac22

        3 years ago

        Paying for elite defense at CF is not dumb.

        Trading players who perform very well in Yankee stadium for players who play in parks that hide their flaws, like pitchers from the A’s, is absolutely moronic given how much NY and Yankee stadium impact player performance.

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        • BuffaloBrad716312

          3 years ago

          Paying for elite defense at CF is not dumb…..if that defense can hit. Harrison Bader is not even IKF level offense. 256 hitter with 6 homers. The difference between that and having montogomery with a 200-225 hitter is a loss in my eyes.

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        • emac22

          3 years ago

          Anyone who claimed to want a .256 batting average with 6 home runs instead of Montgomery would be crazy. But that’s why no one compares players based using batting average. It has nothing to do with the value of the players.

          I agree the trade looks crazy and I don’t know enough about Bader to defend it. But,

          1. The Yankees have proven they can acquire hitters from St Louis and dramatically improve their hitting.
          2. Truly elite defensive center fielders who can are very rare, very expensive and very impactful.
          3. We’ve been trying to get an elite CF for years and while we get one that can’t hit every year none of them ever play elite defense. Just locking that part of it down has a lot of value. If they think they can fix his hitting he could be huge.

          They didn’t trade Monty for Bader because they wanted to dump him for the lowest possible return. They’ve been shopping for years, have experience with the market, the options and most importantly here, they have experience with players from this system and have shown the ability to make big improvements to their offensive production every time.

          I’m sure they also tried very hard to get him for a lower price.

          The price paid and an actual Gold Glove award tell us that the man has the skills you can’t teach. I don’t think our development staff has a better track record with players from any other team in terms of their hitters improving with the Yankees. It’s a gigantic risk they shouldn’t have to take but they can’t keep ignoring CF and but Bader has All Star potential and it’s over 50% in addition to him being a positive value on days he doesn’t hit at all.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          “The Yankees have proven they can acquire hitters from St Louis and dramatically improve their hitting.”

          If you’re talking about Voit, that’s not true. He raked in the Cardinals’ farm system but he was blocked at first base by no less than three players. They didn’t trade him because he couldn’t hit. He was an expendable, one-dimensional player and they got two relievers for him, one of whom turned out to be elite.

          Since 2018, Bader’s first full season in the bigs, he owns a 100 wRC+, exactly league average. His strength is his defense and his baserunning, both of which boost his WAR.

          I’d be glad to replace Hicks with any viable center fielder. The concern with Bader is the nature of his injury, plantar fasciitis. That can be chronic and recurring, and a player like him without wheels is worthless. So we have to hope he’s one who will heal completely and won’t be troubled with that affliction long-term.

          The bigger gamble was trading Montgomery to get him. Since the trade deadline, the Yankee rotation is 19th in fWAR, 15th in innings pitched, 13th in FIP, 11th in ERA and 28th in wins. Meanwhile, Monty has won both his games for the Cardinals vs. the Yankees and the Brewers. The Rays are now in striking distance of taking the division and the Astros own the lead in the league.

          Maybe the dream of a World Series was a pipe dream anyway, based on a 3-month mirage. If that’s the case, losing Monty to get Bader was arguably worth the gamble. But, as of this date, a gamble it was, and there’s no way to tell whether it was worth it.

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        • Samuel

          3 years ago

          “1. The Yankees have proven they can acquire hitters from St Louis and dramatically improve their hitting.”

          Oh…from St. Louis.

          Well now, that explains why they couldn’t do anything with Gallo and why Bennie is treading water.

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  8. StudWinfield

    3 years ago

    Guessing DJ to the IL and Marwin DFA. Don’t think they’re done with Hicks yet. Bit surprised it’s Cabrera over Peraza.

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    • StudWinfield

      3 years ago

      Or Miggy back to AAA.

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  9. CleaverGreene

    3 years ago

    Yanks getting desperate. The Sting Rays may sweep them with their ‘B’ team.

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    • Joe says...

      3 years ago

      They need to be desperate.
      The Aaron Boone “Aw shucks, we’ll be ok.” is fine after a bad series but this crap has gone on for too long now.

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    • MyCommentIsBetter

      3 years ago

      Don’t tell Captain Judge that, he’s going to blow a gasket if the ‘Sting Rays’ sweep them.

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    • StPeteStingRays

      3 years ago

      It’s going to sting a bit when TB wins the division again this year.

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  10. Samuel

    3 years ago

    Cashman / Hal are like Preller, Shapiro, and Dipoto – they just can’t build a roster and let the players play. They have to fiddle around constantly throwing a few guys out and bringing others in. The players stop playing as a team and start covering their behinds to assure they still have a job.

    The object is to peak later in the year and catch fire in the stretch run through the playoffs. It’s not to peak from opening day till a few weeks before the All-Star game.

    Can anyone that follows MLB possibly understand why the FO and owner would give the managers job to Aaron Boone rather than Rob Thomson? Apparently the 2 guys that want to play rotisserie baseball for real got a placeholder.

    P.S. These guys stand no chance against the Rays FO, Elias and company, and Bloom and company (as they settle in) over the next 5-7 years.

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    • emac22

      3 years ago

      The problem isn’t the inability to let them play.

      It’s the inability to build a roster.

      Inside out is the obvious rule he ignores but stars and scrubs is not a good baseball strategy and it’s not a big market strategy.

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  11. Yankee Clipper

    3 years ago

    Finally, the moves that arguably should’ve been made in the first place (without giving up Monty). I’m really excited to see Cabrera get a shot, but, as noted in the article, “Florial’s huge 30.8% strikeout rate in Triple-A…” – Yep, and it’s still waaaaaay better than Hicks, who’s nothing short of an embarrassment at this point, frankly speaking.

    This was supposed to be the year Hicks showed everyone he was serious. It was his 30/30 year. No golf, not distractions, just baseball. Wow, imagine what he will be like when he gets distracted again?

    Hand the reigns to Florial, give that kid the rope you gave Hicks, and let’s see what he can do. But, it’s too late now, unless they’re trying to get him experience for when Judge leaves, perhaps?

    Let Cabrera get a real shot and then figure out if it’s Cabrera or IKF that will be the UTL guy, and the other the SS.

    Man, Yankees are just plain painful to watch right now, particularly when they get blanked. It’s reminiscent of last season…

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  12. Yankeesforever

    3 years ago

    Hicks wanted to go 30/30, well perhaps he did, since he is swinging like that is his eyesight.

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    • CravenMoorehead

      3 years ago

      Hicks struggling to bat his own weight at this point lmao

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      • Dumpster Divin Theo

        3 years ago

        Hee hee, ha ha, chuckling his way to sleep that Craven like in the foto

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        • CravenMoorehead

          3 years ago

          Swing and a miss Hicks

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  13. alumofuf

    3 years ago

    If the Yankees get swept I fear that they will fire Aaron. We read the day team is looking for a spark. When the Phillies fired their manager they began to turn around their season somewhat. If the Yankees fired the manager I hope that they will just move him up in the team front office somewhere.

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    • emac22

      3 years ago

      Fear?

      Are you a relative?

      It’s not like he’s making a difference.

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      3 years ago

      Fear the fire

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  14. mostlytoasty

    3 years ago

    that Cabrera slash line is misleading. Hit poorly to start the year and was shelved due to injury. He’s hit phenomenally well the last month or so. I think closer to a 1.000 OPS iirc

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  15. emac22

    3 years ago

    Hey!

    30.8 is an improvement on 30.9!

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  16. ArianaGrandSlam

    3 years ago

    They also should release Cameron Maybin from their broadcast. No one can stand his love-this and love-that talk, not to mention his constant stumbling on words.

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    • CravenMoorehead

      3 years ago

      His commentary will definitely drive you to drink…

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  17. Frankie Bani

    3 years ago

    Cards ask Osi Smith to hit 250. Red Machine ask David Concepción to hit 250 and IKF is hitting over 260 all season

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    • pinstripes17

      3 years ago

      IKF can’t field and Ozzie is a hall of fame defensive player. What a joke of a comparison.

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      • Dumpster Divin Theo

        3 years ago

        Meh. Ozzie hall of fame banjo hitter with no power. Got in by dominating the Bud Harrelsons Don Kissinger and Chico Escuelas of the day. Garry Templeton, he the man. And a savvy investor too

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  18. GarryHarris

    3 years ago

    The biggest red flag with the Yankees high end prospects is that they move up to AAA and struggle. Oswaldo Cabrera was their best AA player and Estevan Florial their best AAA player. Unlike Braves’ prospects, Yankees prospects move up and struggle. Likewise with pitching. I was watching Starting Pitchers Sean Boyle this year and Glenn Otto last year. Same issue. Yankees prospects aren’t impacting immediately. But they do eventually but Yankees aren’t patient.

    The Yankees play like an old team and old teams always slow later season. They lose the same injury prone players every year. Buying high cost veterans restrict roster freedom.

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    • GarryHarris

      3 years ago

      I have no doubt the Yankees will get creative and trade away Aaron Hicks and Miguel Andujar this off-season. To a much lesser extent, Gleyber Torres and just give away Josh Donaldson.

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      • Joe says...

        3 years ago

        Donaldson can only be moved in a bad contract swap and he does still provide good defense. Doubt he’s going anywhere.

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      • lloyd_christmas

        3 years ago

        Been praying for an Andujar trade for years. What makes this year any different?

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  19. UWPSUPERFAN77

    3 years ago

    The Yankee faithful appears to be panicking! The key is who gets axed!

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    • CravenMoorehead

      3 years ago

      In a perfect world Hal Steinbrenner would be fired on Christmas Eve.

      Unfortunately, since incompetent owners won’t fire themselves I will absolutely settle for Cashman and Boone getting the boot 🙂

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  20. Frankie Bani

    3 years ago

    Hicks will get sick as soon have 4 hits games a la Stanton

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    • UWPSUPERFAN77

      3 years ago

      Who are the Yankees going to blame now that Gallo is gone! BTW JG hit a HR last night against my Milwaukee Brewers!

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      • Yankeesforever

        3 years ago

        he is still striking out at a 40% clip.
        He is benefiting from the thin book they have on him in the NL.
        Soon as it catches up to him, he will be his old Yankee-hitting self.

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  21. snowyphile1

    3 years ago

    Can’t this wait for the September roster expansion?

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  22. machurucuto

    3 years ago

    Florial’s talent is a myth. That kid is not a difference maker but an average player.

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    • Poster formerly known as . . .

      3 years ago

      What could be more mythological than a 126 wRC+ and a .373 wOBA in Triple-A and the lead in stolen bases in the International League this year?

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  23. mrnotsoniceguy

    3 years ago

    Why don’t

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  24. DR2020

    3 years ago

    I’m glad they’re doing something , they need a change. This team has been pure trash lately and almost impossible to watch. They lost practically every game that they played over the last few weeks which seems almost impossible to do ,even for a bad team ,you would think they’d blunder into a couple of wins by chance alone.
    And some of these vets have been so bad they don’t deserve to play, so get them out of here

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  25. superunclea

    3 years ago

    just watched Cabrera play. Not sure when they will call him up.

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