The Houston Astros have fired assistant general manager Scott Powers, reports Jeff Passan of ESPN. This comes on the heels of the firing of general manager James Click from earlier today. As noted by Passan, Click hired Powers away from the Dodgers back in January.
The Astros parting ways with Click was the first domino to fall in a surprising sequence of events following the Astros winning the 2022 World Series. Despite reports of friction between Click and owner Jim Crane, it had been speculated by many that a World Series victory would nonetheless be enough to overcome those tensions and keep the gravy train rolling. Instead, it seems that the hurdles have been too high to mount, despite the Astros emerging triumphant in 2022. After Click was removed from the picture, it had been hypothesized that some of his hires would also be let go, and that has indeed come to pass with Powers getting sent out the door behind Click.
Powers was the Dodgers director of quantitative analysis up until he was hired by the Astros in January of 2022. Also hired as an AGM at that time was Andrew Ball, who had worked with Click in the Rays’ system. No word has been released about his status but it’s fair to wonder at this point if Crane is determined at this point to dismiss anyone he deems to be a Click guy. It’s worth reiterating that Click was hired after the Astros’ sign-stealing efforts in 2017 came to light after the 2019 season. President of baseball operations Jeff Luhnow was fired and Click hired shortly thereafter. Although the team has continued performing well, it seems that things haven’t been as rosy behind the scenes. Despite the firings, Click and Powers and anyone else who ends up leaving will surely get plenty of interest from other teams around the league based on their track record of results on the field.
The Astros are now facing a large amount of front office turnover. In addition to Click and Powers, and whatever other moves may or may not be coming, a few executives have already departed for jobs with other organizations. A month ago, the Giants hired Pete Putila, another Houston AGM, to be their general manager. Oz Ocampo, a long-time scout and executive with the Astros, was recently hired to be an AGM with the Marlins.
This puts the Astros in a strange and perhaps unprecedented position. On the one hand, they are reigning world champions, having just hoisted the trophy less than a week ago. That’s just the latest success marker in a long run of results, as they have qualified for the ALCS in each of the last six seasons. On the other hand, they will have to quickly scramble to fill out a front office that is hemorrhaging members while making plans for their title defense in 2023.
Many have wondered if David Stearns could be a candidate due to a couple of factors. He recently stepped down from his role as the Brewers’ president of baseball operations and into a more advisory position, and also was an AGM with the Astros before going to Milwaukee. However, he is still under contract for one more year and has said he’s not going anywhere, reiterating that position today to Adam McCalvy of MLB.com. “I’m just going to reiterate what I said previously: I’m not going anywhere,” Stearns said “I’m committed to advising Mark [Attanasio, Milwaukee’s principal owner] and [general manager Matt Arnold] in any way I can. And that’s that.”
Nah they just firing ppl now for the hell of it
No kidding
Even when they win they’re losers. Ahahaha!
This is not surprising. Trash cans aside, Lucknow (spelling?) And Hinch built this team still. Sure the current FO got to frost the tips and style it how they wanted. But the Core and replacements from last WS were already in place
Owners know next year is still theirs and wants to get ready for 5plus years from now
I ain’t mad if I’m a Houston fan…can’t win em all, better to set yourself up to win more often than not
Next year is still going to be Houston in a run during the playoffs, will it be NY or Sea or TO that gets to try and knock them off
What in the world is going on Houston. Why??
Didn’t they just win the World Series a few days ago??? Why would these people be fired? Never seen anything like it before….They trying to get out in front of something?? WTF is up with this???
Toxic culture. I cannot imagine much good coming from this.
Has potential for a great espn 30 for 30 though
Perhaps the owner wants a new GM team that brings novel, forward-thinking ideas – like banging on oil drums instead of trash cans.
Nah man. They are moving totally digital. An electronic drum set.
That sends a signal to a mic built into their caps telling them the sign.
Rated TV-MA
They should hire Dave Raven then
caw!….caw!
Sugardick Chrysler, Plymouth
Thank you. Best laugh I’ve had all day (and those are important)!
These thanks are addressed to Westside guy.
Hello, Newman;
Can you explain the “toxic culture”?
Did the players look upset playin in that environment?
I was referring to the front office personnel.
Hello, Newman;
It appears the toxic culture with the FO personnel has been addressed.
You got that right Columbo.
Crane sold the team? Oh, then the toxic culture has not been addressed. You were joking.
TrumboJumbo;
The Astros have been contender 8 years in a row. They will be next year as well. Beyond that is questionable.
The people that came in there pretty much lived off of what was already there. Their drafts haven’t been especially good, so their farm system is weak – it ranks among the 2 or 3 worst in MLB with their only ranked prospect being pitcher Hunter Brown.
The trade the owner killed at the deadline for Willson Contreras was ridiculous. Click wanted to trade a quality affordable pitcher under control for 3 more years for a 2 month rental. Furthermore, the Astros are a team built around defense and pitching. This trade would have brought in an offensive catcher that plays poor D and can’t handle a staff. And now rumors are that Click wanted to bring in Contreras in free agency. In short, he was taking the team and organization in a different direction than the one that had them contending for 8 years straight. The owner was losing control of his franchise.
The Astros survived the loss of Correa. But when Altuve and Bregman start going downhill or retire, that franchise has no people in the pipeline to replace them. It takes years to bring a farm system up to speed. Click and his people were in there for 3 years, and nothing of quality has been built thus far.
One other thing…..
Last year Astros pitching coach Brent Strom unexpectedly resigned. Said he wanted to retire. A month or two later he took a job to be the DBacks pitching coach. ? Brent Strom BUILT the Astros pitching system, and it’s one of the best in MLB. A good chance he had a discussion with the owner when he left.
The Astros will compete again in 2023. But beyond that looks murky. Mr. Crane is doing the right thing to get his franchise back on track. I expect he’ll bring back either David Stearns from the Brewers or Sig Mejdal from the Orioles to run Baseball Ops – both of whom will get the Astros back on track before it’s too late.
that is a thorough and reasonable retort.
Sam, I understand everything but the Urquidy/Contreras part…The owner got mad at him?? For “exploring the possibility” of the trade?
Would Team President be enough to bring back Mike Elias?
It WON’T be Stearns.
TrumboJumbo;
No……
The Astros owner blocked the trade. Click and the Cubs had agreed to it.
This Crane bashing is out of hand. He’s doing the right thing. Everyone loves Dusty. He didn’t get along with Click. Do we bash Dusty as well?
P.S. This is hardly the first time I’ve seen a team win the WS and wind up firing their FO head or manager. I’m tired of writing MLB history for people that don’t know it. There are books out there; there are countless Internet sites that can be accessed for free.
No.
Why not?
Didn’t know that Dusty and Click didn’t get along. That is a good enough reason alone.
Click did not want Baker to use Peña as #2 hitter. When Peña struggled, Click wanted him dropped in the lineup.
Click was not fond of Dusty’s “old school” methods. They clashed over the use of the Astros pitchers as well.
They disagreed over using Maldonado as the starting catcher.
The Astros have enormous turnover in the Front Office and on the roster since the cheating scandal but the Astros keep winning. Additionally, the Astros “weak” farm system which has been ranked near the bottom for the last 4 years keeps producing talent.
“The owner got mad at him?? For “exploring the possibility” of the trade?”
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TrumboJumbo;
Where do you get this nonsense from?
Read the ESPN article where Dusty Baker explained the situation in an interview……
Click wanted the OK to make the trade. Crane (the owner) WENT TO HIS MANAGER to ask him what he thought. Dusty explained to him why he thought the trade would cause a problem. That’s when Crane blocked the trade. Now……
What Crane is upset about is why HE had to get involved. He has a FO head and a manager. They should be on the same wavelength. Jeff Luhnow (FO) and his people were in sync with A.J. Hinch and his people (manager / coaches). Crane would ask them about a trade and they’d be united in what they wanted to do….BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE SAME WAY, and understood what the organization was trying to do.
So Crane is clearing out Click and his people because they’re trying to take the Astros in a different direction.
I’ve been on here numerous times and said that the Rays and Astros have been the 2 most influential organizations following Billy Beane and Moneyball. They both are heavily analytic based. However, the Rays and Astros go about running their organizations it totally different manners. That’s the conflict here. Crane needs to get people in that know the style that Jeff Luhnow put in….which worked and made the Astros the best organization in MLB.
I had thought the owner was pissed at the GM for trying to trade Urquidy away
Mike Elias would be my #1 choice right now…
itsgonnahappen;
Elias has spent years getting the Orioles together. Contract aside, he wants to see that through.
Sig or Stearns can come back.
Tidbit – the Orioles won the season series against the Astros, 4-3. I watched those games and the O’s looked like they outplayed the Astros most of the time. The O’s and Guardians are loaded. I like both, but narrowly favor the O’s. Elias isn’t walking away from that. It may well be his top lifetime achievement.
Samuel… big bad feelings police at it again. Lol you’re ridiculous!
Hahahaha this Crane bashing is getting out of hand!! You’re out of hand feelings police!
You have to go back to Charlie Finley in the 70’s to see this kind of owner!
you are correct – Finley knew baseball, and fundamentally built those A’s himself
Astros Hot Takes;
That A’s team was the last great team in MLB. There will never be another one.
They had everything – elite RH starters, elite LH starters; a HOF closer; speed; power; defense; clutch hitting. I once went down when they came to my city and watched a 4 game series. Not once in that series did they make a mistake on the field….not an error….a mistake. They could beat opponents a dozen ways. And yes, an insurance man put that team together.
Maybe they got word or some sort of proof that the team was still cheating again.
I was wondering the same thing, newman….lickety split, too!
Thanks for the world series but you all are out of here. The owner now will take all the glory for the world series win.
The owner just wants to get ahead of firing people who must pay the price for all the cheating that was done to achieve the championship.
So are you saying they cheated again? I do not like the Astros but I didn’t see any cheating this time around.
What a classy organization
Says the guy with that absurd name!
Ethan comes from the Connecticut Sugardicks, a family known for its class and sophistication since Revolutionary times.
First Cousin of The Baldwin Sisters on Waltons Mountain…
His family built this country. And they are cousins of the Hancocks
Speak louder, son..
SUGARDICK! OUR PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER!
pun….its like the Hatfield and McCoy’s when the sourpuss family rides into town!!!
The Sugardick family are olde-time blueveineys.
I used to own a Baldwin organ.
No relation
Lel
Something tells me Ethan Sugardick is actually Mattress Mack trolling this board. Clever Mr. Sugardick, clever….
Imagine trying to make the comment “what a classy organization” about the Astros look bad by attacking the username of the commenter who wrote it, while having a username that epitomizes a non-classy, cheating organization.
Huh? I’m guessing this sounded way better in your head.
@flaming – you misspelled “I don’t have a good comeback so I am instead going to try to downplay your comment to look superior”. It’s really not all that hard to figure out.
Ethan’s been dealing with trauma all his life due to his last name. Be kind.
What a clASSy name you have.
People on this tread are clueless if they think Click was responsible for that World Series win. This whole thing has Luhnow all over it, hopefully he is hired back.
Man would that start some crap. Wish he’d come back – if the true ring leaders were welcomed back (Cora and Beltran) why shouldn’t Lunhow be welcomed back?
But really wasn’t an offer Crane thought he would accept.
Astros players by Championship-Win-Percentage-Added, 2022 playoffs:
Players acquired by Jeff Luhnow: +94.5%
Players acquired by James Click: -9.0%
Bullpen (2022 playoff championship-win %-added):
Hector Neris +9.9%
Ryne Stanek +1.9%
Will Smith 0.0%
Phil Maton 0.0%
Seth Martinez 0.0%
Pedro Baez 0.0%
Rafael Montero -10.7%
Win % added- not % of players on the roster.
Yeah, it’s pretty funny that someone so condescending can’t read. Perhaps baseball should take a backseat to basic literacy.
Luhnow sued the franchise over his firing. I don’t know how that suit was resolved, if it ever was.
They just won a World Series, and they fired their GM and assistant GM???
pure chaos energy, I love this.
Wow Jim Crane is the Dan Snyder of MLB. Whoever is desperate enough to take the GM job should be embarrassed. Looking at you Jeff Bagwell.
Dan Snyder doesn’t win.
Doesn’t cheat, either.
Its clear his team doesn’t cheat. They’re absolutely terrible.
The NFL is not baseball!
Man, the Astros just really hate their World Series championship. Haha.
It does seem like they have their eyes on someone in particular to run the show though. Nixing that Contreras trade was the writing on the wall for James Click.
I wonder if Theo Epstein has dipped is toes in the sand with Mr. Crane. Can’t think of any other prominent big name GMs on the open market right now. Stearns could technically be a fit here if both sides had interest, but Stearns has said he’s staying in Milwaukee as an advisor. Any other big names out there I’m missing, or do they just plan to promote from within/hire a lower ranked position from another organization and give a promotion?
Could still be Stearns. Astros send compensation to Brewers; hard to think the Brewers would say no.
Stearns said, “NO’ again today.
Houston can have Zaidi
The Contreras trade deserved to be nixed. Like, holy overpay!
Send McCormick for Stearns, and sign the guy that I think would make the Astros even more of a powerhouse: Brandon Nimmo. Get another high OBP guy in front of Alvarez, Bregman and Tucker.
Altuve
Nimmo
Alvarez
Bregman
Tucker
Pena
That would be extremely difficult to navigate.
Houston does not need another Carlos Gomez.
On the surface, that Contreras trade looked like an overpay, but when you get into the numbers, Urquidy has benefitted as much as anyone in MLB from a great defense behind him.
Last year his ERA was 3.94, FIP was 4.60. For those of you that aren’t familiar with FIP, it’s fielding independent pitching, meaning give a pitcher an average defense, this is what his ERA would be closer to. Aaron Nola has been someone that has been on the other end of it – he should have an even better ERA, but his defense has hurt him due to lack of range, poor defensive placements, etc.
Urquidy is one of those guys that back in the day we would have assumed he was a pretty good pitcher based off of his standard numbers, and then we’d all be confused when he went to a team with a less efficient defense and his ERA and WHIP shot up. I don’t love analytics, but FIP is one of the few aspects I do appreciate.
1. FIP doesn’t account for an ability to limit hard contact which IS a skill. It assumes all pitchers will have the same BABIP which is def not the case.
2. There is no way 2 months of Willson Contreras is worth 3 years and 2 months of Jose Urquidy.
For the Astros it is, they churn out quality pitching like it’s nothing. Urquidy is a solid controllable innings eater, but nothing more. He’s a home run machine.
Who else was offering anything close to Urquidy for Contreras?
You are correct. The percentage of contact and hard-hit balls is important.
Batters facing Urquidy had an 80.9% contact rate and 41% hard-hit ball rate. League average is 76.6% contact and 30.3% hard-hit.
Batters made more contact than league average against him and when they made contact, they hit it hard more often.
A 4.60 FIP fits that contact profile.
At 1.1 WAR, he ranked 154th. That is his career average as well. Not really all that valuable.
About as valuable in his career so far as Willson Contreras in 2022.
And if anyone else was offering a similarly valuable player to Urquidy for two months of Contreras the Cubs would have pulled the trigger. I’m usually against ownership meddling but Jim Crane made the right call in blocking that trade. And when we get down to the point the Astros are WS Champs and your Padres are not.
Urquidy’s Statcast numbers are nothing special. Houston’s defense over the last four years has been very good. His ability is closer to his FIP than his ERA.
It would have been a nice exchange for the Cubs and a fair trade overall, but I think the reaction to the non-trade is more about Contreras being considered “overrated” now because he wasn’t traded.
Wilson’s a fine player and I’ll think he’ll thrive in a C/DH role like he did in 2022. I wish he’d stay with the Cubs, but the reality is he’s going to get a $70-80 million guarantee with all the risks a 31 year old catcher carries. I can understand Jed’s aversion to resigning him.
2 months of Contreras is not worth 3 years of Urquidy. 2 months of Contreras IS worth a year of Urquidy. But a WS Championship is worth 3 years of Urquidy.
Instead of Contreras, Click had to pivot to a lower quality catcher that was also a rental and picked up Vazquez for two prospects, one of which was just added to the Red Sox 40 man roster. It’s a good thing that Click planned ahead for the owner of the teams reticence.
No one knows who else was offered for Contreras. We do know the Cubs needs. Pitching is at the top of that list.
Fortunately for the Astros they got to have their cake and eat it. Win a WS championship AND keep Jose Urquidy.
It will be interesting to see if Urquidy lasts three years through the arbitration process without getting non- tendered. The projection for Urquidy might have him lasting two years on average.
Not sure that is the prize you think it is. 4.60 FIP. About half of league average WAR for a starter with a qualifying number of innings. Quite a bit below league average K%.
Outside of 2020 he has not been anything special. Just another back of the rotation arm.
Most teams fill those slots from the minor leagues or FA signings pretty easily.
So we now know he won’t be Click’s replacement.
Total speculation on my part, but I think Crane lacks trust of any analytical wizard having full autonomy after what happened with Luhnow.
Why would Theo want to join a dysfunctional band of outlaw cheaters? He’s a made man who could pursue opportunities in finance, politics or wait to be pursued for league mgmt
Now I want Theo to become the Astros GM just to see your reaction.
Epstein said that he would only return as part of an ownership group. Is Crane giving up a share in the Astros to Epstein?
Should of swept the Phillies in the World Series. Only winning 4-2 is unacceptable!!!
Is serious they are clearing house for David Stearn is my bet. Crazy!!
IT WON’T BE STEARNS!
click wasn’t fired.
Exactly. Heaven forbid should they actually research to see Click chose not to accept the one year deal offered to him.
Houston #Astros GM James Click actually was fired. He was offered a one-year contract and raise from his $1 million salary on Monday, turned it down in pursuit of a longer contract, and was dismissed Friday after publicly airing his grievances at the GM meetings.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) November 11, 2022
Click wasn’t “fired.”
Houston #Astros GM James Click actually was fired. He was offered a one-year contract and raise from his $1 million salary on Monday, turned it down in pursuit of a longer contract, and was dismissed Friday after publicly airing his grievances at the GM meetings.
— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) November 11, 2022
Oh God PF. Bob Nightengale? Come on. You know better than to cite that dude and have called others out for doing so in the past.
What next? They hire Mattress Mack as their new GM? At least he knows how to make money by trading on the Astros stellar reputation for merging baseball…and degenerate gambling.
He must have been unwilling to agree to next year’s cheating plot.
It makes sense to get rid of Click’s “guy”
You’re moving on from him then obviously you aren’t keeping one of his hand picked top lieutenants.
This makes me think there’s an iceberg just under the surface here. Something that perhaps was dealt with quietly and with an NDA.
Why? The GM didn’t re-up so they canned the guy he brought in. This happens all the time when a team makes changes at the top of their FO.
he wasn’t canned, he just didn’t accept the astros proposal
Not true.
By definition in this context, “fired” means you are relieved of your duties before your contract has expired. Click’s contract expired, so he was not fired.
@seamaholic2; And to your point, the management consultant(s) Crane employs to audit/monitor/evaluate FO performance saw some red flags and advised him to move on. And said consultant(s) most likely have FO level baseball experience so the “shop” functions fine until they find replacements?
Kept reading Click and Crane had problems but never saw what the problem(s) was.
Any particulars slip out?
Click probably feels like he deserves to be top dog with multiple years after a ws win. Crane was not going to give him more than 1 year. He probably already has another plan on place for next year. Now he needs to bridge that somehow.
Easy. Crane wants credit.
What an awful take.
BaseballisLife;
That’s juvenile.
Samuel…. feelings police strikes again lol. You’re doing a bang up job! You scold those meanies! Lol tool
Powers out.
Must be the hurricane.
Scott Powers also wore buzzers under his shirt, directly linked to his AOL Instant Messenger account. Disgraceful. Especially since no one uses AIM anymore. Astros had to fire him to save face.
AOL…LOL!!!
Did I miss something? Did Elon Musk buy the Astros?
What an unproblematic and exemplary organization!
Crone and click clash and Crone is telling the league and MLB fan base that he is in charge. Like what Boston did with Ben Cherington, get the World Series and discard. Owners can be savages after they get what they want. Crone is restoring Houston Astros reputation after that sign stealing scandal. If Click and his people aren’t going to bow to his rule, they are gone. Crone gave Click the chance to win the World Series and get a well paying job elsewhere. Rather that’s New York, Philadelphia, Texas (had to throw in a rival for the sake of it), Miami, or any potential contender(s), he’s going to what free rein and control of decisions to build a World Series team. That takes out Angels because Arty just needs a pretty face to act as GM while Arty does the work and suffocate the team with another egomaniac head case. Miami I think is probably the best option for Click if White Sox stay with their current GM.
Of course Crane is in charge. He’s a businessman who owns the team. His people will be in the key positions. That’s how business operates. Why don’t fans understand this?
Yes, Captain Underpants!
Boston didn’t discard Cherrington. They wanted to keep him. Cherrington gave out bad contracts to Pedro Sandoval and Rusney Castillo and John Henry brought in Dave Dombrowski do oversee baseball operations. Cherrington didn’t like this and left.
actually Pablo Sandoval
And then Dombrowski game out bad contracts of his own, so he was let go.
I think we’re on to something here. We now know why Bloom plays small ball. No big contracts, no getting fired!
RobM: Yes! I really believe John Henry hates wasting money.
He was Click’s guy. He’s out. It will also allow Click to hire Powers in his next gig. He had no chance at the GM job, so move on. It may look harsh, but it makes business sense, and these are business decisions.
Click wasn’t fired. His contract ran out even before the World Series ended.
Who would want those jobs knowing the owner won’t let you do everything you want.
@pbpsean no GM can just do everything they want too. If so every team would have a 500 mil payroll. The owners of the franchises are ultimately in control.
Guess he’s going back to LA lol
Guess it’s finally getting out about the Astros batters having listening devices in their batting helmets.
They probably weren’t cheating enough this season for that psycho owners liking
Lol Astros.
Lol World Series winning Astros
Good luck getting to another one
They’re returning most of their roster…obviously getting to the WS is hard even for the best teams, but I’d give them as good of odds as any other AL team to make it back.
Similar to the Patriots dynasty, the Astros have a fairly easy road in the regular season due to their easy division. With their talented roster, I have them as a WS favorite yet again.
Great point!
Next year’s schedule is different.
Going to get much more difficult in 2023 with the Mariners being very good and the Rangers loading up. A healthy Angels team could make things more interesting too.
Losing Verlander won’t help either.
Jim Crane asked me if I wanted to become a member of his Floridian National Golf Club knowing that I don’t golf. I’ll never forget the look on his face when I told him no.
Saturday night massacre in Astro land? Thanks for helping me get that trophy, you know where the door is.
The Tigers will hire at least one of these guys.
Gets us through another day of offseason, so…good.
Crane is thinking, “Winning the Series was such a rush. What’s the next most satisfying thing I can do? Oh, yeah, fire somebody!”
Crane is an idiot
Must be. Owns a franchise worth $2 billion. You on the other hand must be a genius.
Jerry Jones v Jimmy Johnson vibes
The most hated team in baseball sacked both the GM and the Assistant GM within days of winning the World Series. Perhaps Powers and Click know about another Astros cheating scheme.
(and no, they are NEVER “world champions” unless your league is called Team America)
Gives the Stros even more incentive to kick the ass of the self-proclaimed “best team in baseball”. What a joke.
Time for Click and Powers to write a book!
Maybe feel the timing is right to bring back Luhnow?
This is what I’m thinking, too. One more year with Dusty Baker at the helm, then Hinch will be ready to leave that dumpster fire in Detroit. I really think Lunhow is coming back. He’s Crane’s guy.
I’ve read that Luhnow is invested in other interests. Soccer.. I think
He owns two professional soccer teams if memory serves.
Seems like an opening for Crane to bring back Luhnow. It would be a bad look. A VERY VERY bad look but Crane doesn’t impress me as a guy who gives a flip about public opinion. Two things here, one, no one else with a successful track record will want to work for Crane and two, no one ELSE would consider hiring Luhnow. Anyone really think Stearns would want to take on this headache working for this kind of owner? I don’t.
Jim Crane the new Jerry Jones?
More like Jim Crane is the new George Steinbrenner.
Maybe Click was a dick or Crane is a crank
I am wondering what more these two needed to accomplish? A world title is not enough to keep your job? ♂️
Really?
Click and Powers will have jobs before year’s end. Now let’s see where the Astros go.
owner should do a jerry jones make himself G.m. like jones nobody with options wants to work with this guy.
Hopefully, James Click returns to the Bay Area and goes to work for the Oakland A’s. People forget Click was the editor of Baseball Prospectus.
This is surprising. Must be trying to get rid of the last of the trashcan bangers.
That’s childish and dumb.
Please, it was a joke. Sarcasm.
Either grow a pair or dont be a sports fan. In both Astro threads you’re the feelings police cause your cheating team is getting picked on…. boohoo!
Now now let’s not make it worse. Astros earned this championship. It was all meant as a joke
What do you mean they “fired” Click? He turned down their one year extension offer. That’s not a firing.
It’s a bold strategy Cotton.
Giants hired their GM too early!!!
Ok what is up with this organization? I’m skipping way past the cheating stuff lol. Dusty baker saying it was sad that there we no African Americans in the world series (yet he is managing a team that has none on their roster in the WS) letting Verlander walk, firing coaches after they WON! I don’t get it
Why would they keep Click’s guy? New GM will hire his own AGM. That’s the way it should be.
Maybe crane is a musk fan and decided to randomly fire some people:)
My guess… word has spread to the owners that an investigation is underway that will show another cheating scandal. This time, something to do with pitchers using substances allowing better spin rate but not easily detectable like other substances in the past. The owner wants to get ahead of this so as to minimize their involvement and minimize the financial penalty.
And don’t tell me you’d be shocked. Not this organization.
BabyBoyBlueDiamond;
Sure. That must be it.
Check under your floorboards at home. I understand that Martians started planting monitoring devices in American’s homes. Once they know everything they’ll move on us and there’s nothing we’ll be able to do!
Samuel:…. here he is again… the big bad feelings police. Lol
Sort of like the Jerry Jones/Jimmy Johnson debacle
Good move. Astros should have swept the playoffs but ended up losing a few to the Phillies. If I was ownership, I’d be clearing house in the office since these characters couldn’t build a proper WS team that goes undefeated in the playoffs. Hopefully, things will be better next year when Houston wins it all, going undefeated.
To be fair, they should’ve only lost one game and that is on Dusty and Verlander more than anyone else.
On the other hand, would they have gone undefeated if Luhnow was still in charge?
Yes, highly likely, probably, in all likelihood.
I can only hope these incomprehensible firings were prompted by Brian Cashman agreeing to become the Astros’ new GM.
You are a Yankees fan?
Yup.
Click hired much of the Astros brain trust. Several could follow him to whatever job he takes.
As it is, Crane won’t have to hire just one guy. He is going to have to hire most of top end of his staff
Click – GM – Fired
Powers – Assistant GM – Fired today
Since the season ended Putila and Ocampo left for other jobs.
Others could follow Click, who hired them.
Ball – Assistant GM
Fong – Director of Minor League Operations
Sara Goodrum
Plus at least a dozen others behind the scenes managing areas of scouting, player personnel, and technology. As well as several key analysts.
That is one heck of a lot of incredibly bright people that are gone or could be leaving soon. Right as you start to negotiate trades and FA contracts.
Not a great move on Crane’s part unless he is going to step in and do it all himself.
I believe, honestly….that dusty wanted to play Pena at 1st base. the g.m kept insisting that Scott Hatteberg be put into the lineup. Dusty refused….
Click was a dick… nobody liked him… he thought he ran the whole show… he did things the opposite of the way the OWNER and DUSTY wanted…
Is this really so hard for y’all to figure out?
I OWN the team. I DECIDE the team. I HIRE/FIRE the team.
If yall think Hinch doesn’t manage this team again one day…you’re nuts.
As for Luhnow?