10:08am: At a press conference announcing his decision, Stearns stated that he’s “not going anywhere” and will remain in Milwaukee. That, of course, doesn’t rule out pursuing opportunities in the future, but it’s a rather firm declaration that for the time being, he has no plans to join another organization. Rather, Stearns added that he’s “looking forward to taking a deep breath, spending time with my family and exploring some other interests.”
8:35am: David Stearns is stepping down as the Brewers’ president of baseball operations but will remain with the club in an advisory capacity, the team announced. General manager Matt Arnold will now oversee the baseball operations department.
It’s a surprise shakeup atop the Brewers’ baseball operations department, as Stearns has built a reputation as one of the most widely respected baseball execs in the game since taking over the reins in Milwaukee. He’d been under contract through the 2023 season.
“This is not an easy decision for me and is something I have been wrestling with for a long time,” Stearns said in a prepared statement. “[Owner] Mark Attanasio and I have had an open dialogue and we both knew this day could eventually come. It has been a priority for both of us that any transition would take place while the organization is in a healthy position with solid leadership and a talented roster going forward. That is certainly the case today.”
“I’m very grateful to Mark and all of our staff for their support and efforts throughout my tenure with the Brewers,” Stearns continued. Matt [Arnold] and I both arrived in 2015 and he is more than ready for this next opportunity. I am committed to serving as a resource to Matt as he sees fit as the organization moves through this transition.”
Of course, the announcement will prompt immediate speculation about whether Stearns might ultimately be headed elsewhere. The team noted that he’ll serve ownership and the baseball ops department as an advisor, and Stearns himself suggests within those comments that he’ll remain with the organization for the time being to help guide Arnold and others through the transition. Nonetheless, his departure from such a prominent role could pave the way for his eventual departure altogether.
For instance, the Mets have pursued Stearns, a New York native, for their vacant president of baseball operations post in each of the past two offseasons but been denied permission to interview him. Mets owner Steve Cohen eventually landed on Billy Eppler to lead his baseball operations staff, but Eppler was given the “general manager” title, leaving the door open for a president to be appointed atop the hierarchy.
That said, Stearns could well be of appeal to a broad number of teams seeking a veteran baseball operations leader over the course of the next year. The Harvard grad has been running baseball operations for the Brewers since 2015 and, prior to that, was an assistant GM in Houston, a director of baseball operations in Cleveland (a role he shared with current Twins president of baseball ops Derek Falvey).
As for Arnold, he’ll receive autonomy over a baseball operations department for the first time in his career. Hired away from the Rays in 2015 to serve as an assistant GM under Stearns, Arnold was promoted to the title of general manager in 2020. Arnold, like Stearns, had been drawing interest from other teams in their front office search, and the bump to the GM’s chair made it more difficult for other teams to pursue him (as clubs are generally only permitted to interview other teams’ executives if they’re offering a promotion).
Despite holding the GM title for the past two years, the 43-year-old Arnold has been second on the team’s operations hierarchy until today’s announcement. He’s spent more than 20 years working in baseball ops, however, serving as Tampa Bay’s director of player personnel in addition to holding a variety of roles in scouting, player development and player analysis for the Dodgers, Reds and Rangers over his career.
That Arnold is the one now assuming oversight of the department leaves the Brewers with some more continuity than the standard changing of the guard, but the change in leadership is nevertheless a seismic shift for the Brewers. Attanasio called Stearns’ impact on the club “transformational” in his own statement today, adding that he’s “disappointed” in the decision but also “grateful” to Stearns for the past seven years.
It’s easy to see why. Prior to hiring Stearns in 2015, the Brewers had won only two division titles dating back to 1969 and had reached the postseason on just four occasions. Milwaukee won the NL Central in both 2018 and 2021 under Stearns’ leadership and reached the playoffs in four consecutive seasons, from 2018-21.
Along the way, Stearns, Arnold and their staff built out a powerhouse rotation headlined by draftees Brandon Woodruff and Corbin Burnes, as well as trade acquisitions such as Freddy Peralta, Eric Lauer and Adrian Houser. (Woodruff was drafted by the prior regime in 2014 but, as an 11th-round pick, is still a player development triumph for the organization as a whole.)
A look up and down the Brewers’ roster reveals one of the most trade-dependent clubs in the Majors. In addition to Peralta, Lauer and Houser, Stearns oversaw trades that brought Willy Adames, Rowdy Tellez, Hunter Renfroe and Luis Urias into the organization. His most infamous swaps include the lopsided Christian Yelich acquisition from the Marlins and the trade that sent Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers to Houston in return for Houser, outfielder Brett Phillips and Josh Hader.
Stearns has drawn his share of flak for trading Hader to the Padres at this summer’s deadline despite the fact that his team was in contention for what would be a third NL Central title under his watch. The now-former Brewers president has since acknowledged that the move had a larger impact on the clubhouse than he anticipated. However, threading the needle by acquiring controllable talent in exchange for players with dwindling club control (at or near peak value) is a reality for most small- and mid-market front offices. (Hader will be a free agent next winter and has a projected $13.6MM salary in arbitration.)
In general, though, it’s fair to say that Stearns’ willingness to act boldly on the trade market has benefited the Brewers more often than it’s harmed them. Now, those decisions will ultimately fall to Arnold. It’s impossible to say for certain whether he’ll have the same affinity for aggressively attacking the trade market, but given Arnold’s roots in an ever-active Rays organization, seven years working alongside Stearns and a massive arbitration class, the Brewers are likely in for another active offseason.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Whose gonna replace him that bald egghead
Bart Harley Jarvis
*Who’s gonna replace…
DDT, I’m here to help. You can do this!
DarkSide830
DDT is not good for eggs
User 163535993
Have you tried it?
Milwaukee-2208
Honestly good riddance.
He botched this roster construction on a great level
JoeBrady
The Brewers have averaged ~ 88 wins over the past 6 seasons, with two 1st place finishes and three 2nd place finishes. The Brewers made the playoffs 4x in their previous 49 years.
You sound like the Red Sox Fellowship of the Miserable that complained about future HOFs Theo & Tito every time we didn’t win more than 95.
Milwaukee-2208
And look at his incredible trade deadline last season. Giving away Hader…for literally nothing. Ruining team morale. Stupidly saying “oh didn’t realize trading our best pitcher would impact the clubhouse”
getrealgone2
Ya ever think it was ownership that pushed for that move? Then let Stearns take the fall. Hader is owed a big raise next year.
Samuel
Milwaukee-2208;
Your “best pitcher” sucked.
Gave him away “for nothing”?
dirkg
Taylor Rogers, Dinelson Lamet and prospects Robert Gasser and Esteury Ruiz = nothing?
sigmanj
That IS nothing.
User 163535993
dirkg:: I know right? I thought that was a pretty good haul for Hader. Now maybe none of those guys works out but that would be a fluke IMO. In a few years they might feel better about that trade. They basically rode Hader into the ground. I thought it was hilarious when the Yankee fans said they rode Effross into the ground by pitching him 12 innings. That was a slow week for Hader.
cwolf20
Hey Milwaukee-2208, I know you’re not into the “actual data” or “supporting your claims thing”, but after the first two months, which were the best start in team history, they were 2 games under .500 before they traded Hader, and they were 2 games under .500 after they traded him.
I bet you think the offense was bad too, and that pitcher wins matter.
bigjonliljon
And they got o some minor league talent back. Can’t judge a trade for 2-3 years after when you can see what the young guys do
bigjonliljon
I think it’s all about the Met’s, but your right about Angels. Depends on new owner though. Will new owner spend or will he tighten up the purse strings for a bit to recoup money spent in purchase
Deleted Userr
The Hader trade is the downside of dealing off the major league roster when you are contending. Not that it ever makes sense to begin with.
DarkSide830
The Brewers offense absolutely WAS bad.
dugmet
Given the volatility of relievers and Hader’s terrible 2022 performance – he got back a decent haul.
dugmet
Steve Cohen calling.
thecoffinnail
Let’s not forget Hader is a closer. Pretty much any solid starter on the team is more valuable. Far too much credit is given to these one inning pitchers. They have value but it is rarely long term and an expensive one like Hader will hurtbthe bullpen construction of a small market team. Honestly, they will be better off signing 3 solid bullpen arms for $4-5m per season than if they would have held onto Hader.
amk1920
Right off the bat, Lamet was DFAd and Rogers is a rental who is significantly worse than Hader. So yes, nothing. Basically traded Hader for a couple of scratch off lottery tickets
Deleted Userr
Same story as the Guardians when they traded Bauer and Clevinger. It’s not that it wasn’t a good haul but isn’t winning a title mote important than getting a good haul for a guy?
panj341
They wanted to copy the Pirates who love to trade established players, Musgrove, Holmes, Bell, etc. for lottery tickets.
Just like the real lottery some times you win but most times you lose.
Deleted Userr
Not the same. The Brewers were trying to secure a Wild Card spot when they traded Hader. The Pirates knew they had no chance and were trying to add years of control to their roster.
Dennis Boyd
The thing that really surprised me about the Hader trade, is I thought they really wanted Ruiz for the playoff run. He had just been showcased as a decent CF by Padres (speed, defense, OBP) and I figured brewers liked what they saw and pulled the plug on Hader. But they barely tried him out and started him in AAA. Now the key trade chip must be Sasser who might be in their rotation next year. Could still end up being a good trade for Milwaukee.
RyanD44
Sometimes you win the lottery? I don’t think that applies to 99.9% of the population
brewsingblue82
Not to defend, but Taylor was struggling and Lamet was lost like 2 days later. Only half the package was truly worth anything honestly. But in retrospect, Hader never turned it around. So we should probably be happy with what we got.
JoeBrady
Hader might’ve been losing the closer’s job anyway. His July ERA/FIP was 12.54/8.15. Williams had a 1.59/1.30 at the time. I wouldn’t argue much either way, but there is no doubt that Williams was pitching much, much better.
Post-trade, Williams had a 2.57/3.35 with a 9/2 SV/BS ratio. Hader had a 7.31/3.43 with a 7/2 SV/BS.
While trading Hader might’ve hurt team morale, had Hader continued to pitch to the 7.31 he had with SD, that would’ve killed morale as well. Even without the trade, i cannot see how Hader would’ve held onto the closer’s job with a 9.24 ERA in the final three months.
If I were going to fault Sterns for something, it would be that he failed to land a bat. They averaged 4.12 rpg in Aug-Sept.
JoeBrady
Your “best pitcher” sucked.
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That is what a lot of fans don’t get. Hader was awful from July-Sept. His 2nd half ERA of 6.30 is about what Brasier had for the RS.
Spike Hyzer
And will really cash in the following if he’s great next year.
Spike Hyzer
Gasser looks like the real deal. Ruiz I’m not so sure, but his value is high and we’re stacked at the position, so he could be flipped for value like Brinson.
Rogers should have been almost as good as Hader. Lots of things going on with that situation, but it didn’t work out.
Lamet was never supposed to be part of the deal. He was thrown in to balance money and it was the intent all along to DFA him (probably at his request). Clearly they could have DFAed someone like Davis to keep him if that was ever in the plans.
Spike Hyzer
He wasn’t lost. He was thrown in to equalize the money and didn’t want to be here. It was pre-arranged to DFA him.
You can’t believe they would DFA an electric talent before they would that dud Davis in CF.
YourDreamGM
Hader trade brought in a lot of talent. He wasn’t pitching well to begin with. They didn’t seem like they could get to the playoffs. They needed to add some bats and didn’t. Brought in another pen arm. I thought they were overachieving but if their players aren’t tuff enough to handle losing Hader they should have made some additions to boost their playoff contending perception like Seattle did last year.
YourDreamGM
Clevinger was a tj ticking time bomb. Easy to see not wanting Bauer. With those hauls they would and should of traded them anyways. Just made it much easier. Kluber great trade. Can’t believe someone would give up a elite arm for him. Lindor was solid. They know what they are doing.
YourDreamGM
Hader turned it around. Would have been too late though and still not enough.
Deleted Userr
@YourDreamGM…
Who cares if Hader brought in a lot if talent? The idea is to win a championship now. This trade was never going to help them do that.
Absolutely the Brewers could have gotten to the playoffs! They had just as good a shot as the Phillies and Padres. 2 of those teams would get in. And if the Brewers’ bullpen hadn’t sucked down the stretch they could have beaten thr Phillies out for the last spot.
Them bringing in another reliever doesn’t matter. Especially when that reliever had been struggling for a while. You don’t trade your closer when you are trying to contend. Ever.
The Guardians didn’t know Clevinger would need TJ. And if they did then A. J. Preller probably has a decent case to have that trade nixed.
Bauer won the Cy Young in 2020. That trade definitely hurt the Guardians’ immediate chances of contending. And it didn’t help them for the long term either considering Logan Allen and Franmil Reyes have since been DFA’d.
Kluber and Lindor trades worked out well for Cleveland. They were still win later trades at a time when the team claimed to be trying to win now.
You don’t know that Hader wouldn’t have been enough. The Brewers didn’t finish that far behind Philly and their bullpen was their biggest problem down the stretch.
Care to wrong about anything else today?
flamingbagofpoop
He really wasn’t that good in SD and that’s not what literally means…
enricopallazzo
They dfa’d Lamet after making more moves, I believe. Bush, Rosenthal, etc. But they basically chose to keep McGhee over Lamet, then dfa’d McGhee a few days later anyway. He could of requested it but I don’t see why.
JoeBrady
And if the Brewers’ bullpen hadn’t sucked down the stretch
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1-The Brewers BP ERA in Aug-Sept was virtually identical to their ERA in Apr-July. They suck as much before the trade as after the trade.
2-Hader’s ERA with SD was 7.31. You want to explain how that would’ve helped MIL?
JoeBrady
flamingbagofpoop2 hours ago
He really wasn’t that good in SD
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He was pretty awful until the playoffs. Not everyone knows that apparently.
Deleted Userr
@JoeBrady Name one team that traded a core player in-season and made it to the World Series in the last 15 years. That’s how.
YourDreamGM
@thelegendaryharambe
The idea is to win a championship now. I don’t believe that to be true with majority of teams.
The Guardians didn’t know Clevinger would need TJ. Never said they did.
Bauer won the Cy Young in 2020. That trade definitely hurt the Guardians’ immediate chances of contending. Because they knew 2020 would only be 2 months vs central only opponents. Maybe they thought the sticky ban was coming sooner. Maybe they didn’t make the decision on talent alone. Maybe they just missed on the players.
Deleted Userr
@YourDreamGM…
“I don’t believe that to be true with majority of teams.”
It was for the Brewers this year.
“The Guardians didn’t know Clevinger would need TJ. Never said they did.”
Exactly. So that doesn’t work as an excuse for the trade.
“Because they knew 2020 would only be 2 months vs central only opponents.”
Erm… No they didn’t. No one knew what a coronavirus was on the day Trevor Bauer was traded.
BenBenBen
cwolf: the offense only looks above average because it beat up so much on Cincy and Pittsburgh. It’s not good.
YourDreamGM
@thelegendaryharambe
So you can read minds but can’t detect sarcasm? Interesting.
stymeedone
When attendance is relied on to pay the bills, a team cannot afford to just let its star players walk for nothing after 6 years. They would get some extra cash this year by winning a title, but if it hurts the long term outlook, its not worth it. Would the fans prefer one Chance at winning the lottery this year, or would you like multiple chances in the near future?
Deleted Userr
LOL stymeedone the amazing defender of the pitcher win stat now says that “attendance” and “getting something for your star players” is worth more than a championship LOL LOL ROFL LOL!
By the way. Attendance is only a tiny percentage of ownerships income. The TV money is way more.
stymeedone
You can win the Lottery without winning the Top prize.
Deleted Userr
If winning a title wasn’t more important 2 month rentals would never get traded at the deadline for any real value.
Astros2017&22Champs
He made the Brewers relevant for several years. Nobody could of predicted Yelich’s instant decline. And nobody is more surprised than me at Hiura’s inability to hit major league pitching consistently. One of my favorite prospects in recent memory. Stearns did a good job for a middle of the road payroll team.
Samuel
They need to get Hiura off that roster – otherwise the manager is liable to put him in a game.
Spike Hyzer
His overall numbers are actually slightly better than Tellez’s. And with equal ABs, he profiles for 31 HRs. He has more range and has improved (and continues to get DH ABs). He was the best hitter on the team for about 6 weeks in the second half.
They should let Rowdy go, Hiura starts at 1B and some DH (with Yelich getting most reps there). Hiura backs up at 2B with Urias starting (Urias still had more HRs twice in his career than Wong’s last 2 seasons, which were personal bests). Then focus on getting a 3B (Ruiz, Turang, and Small for Isaac Paredes, who may be coming in to his own as a power bat). Bring up Warren for depth and competition at the corners.
Hiura figured something out last year. An out is an out as I always say and the K thing doesn’t bother me.
The HR potential is more important, and an IF with Paredes, Adames, Urias, and Hiura all getting 550 ABs might be an IF that hits 120 HRs. Or more.
kripes-brewers
Interesting take. The strike outs bother me though. If you end up with 120 home runs that are solo, they won’t make much difference. Someone has to get on base ahead of these homers so you put up crooked numbers. That was the big offensive problem this year with all of the strikeouts.
Spike Hyzer
The HR is the most efficient way to score and requires no one to be on base..
Fact of modern data analysis.
Yelich is going to be the on base guy now and some of the power guys hit for OK average and can improve and maybe be on base for one another.
That’s also why K’s are good: you don’t run yourself or DP yourself out of an inning and the next guy up has a chance for the dinger again with a guy on.
K’s just don’t matter to me. K rate is concerning a little, but only if the player doesn’t barrel the ball or have good exit velo when he does make contact.
A lot of ways to win in this league. The crew suffered more for NOT getting big hits when we did have guys on. I know clutch isn’t a thing, but it’s actually a thing.
Samuel
Spike Hyzer;
1. I saw Hiura get a few game winning hits. I also saw him mess up many times that changed the course of a game….which the Brewers ultimately lost. (The one that stuck with me was late in the season and late in the game – they were rallying; he’s on 2nd – the tying or winning run. A hard ground ball is hit just to the left of 2B on its way to CF – no defender is within 20 feet of the ball….Hiura runs right into it, it hits him….he’s the 3rd out of the inning….rally killed…Brewers lose the game by a run.)
2. He’s lost playing 2B or 1B. Almost always uncomfortable if the ball’s hit to him.
3. Outside of the batters box he’s a liability – and he’s not going to win any batting titles. He has a negative Baseball IQ. I don’t think he has any comprehension of the game situation and what he needs to do to help his team win.
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If you have any authority to make that trade with the Rays – say so! Someone here reading it that knows Erik Neander or Peter Bendix can get in touch with them and that trade can be consumed within an hour.
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Strikeouts suck, which is why so many teams have gone to contact hitters. For every double play a batter hits into, 5 times more often he’s putting the ball in play which forces defenders such as Hiura to make a play….which they mess up….and I’m not just talking about making an error.
JoeBrady
Spike Hyzer5 hours ago
His overall numbers are actually slightly better than Tellez’s.
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I would keep Hiura. He probably isn’t any good, but there is at least some chance he could be quite decent.
JackStrawb
Some day, the human race will come to understand that in 2022 the cost of a strikeout compared to other kinds of outs was entirely trivial.
Until that day…
DarkSide830
“relevant” is not a high threshold
colonel flagg
It was in Milwaukee. Postseason 4 times in their first 47 years. Believe me, having followed this team for every one of those being relevant was a big deal. Now, I will say the bar has been raised and the fans want and expect more, as well they should.
utah cornelius
Nobody could have predicted Yelich’s MVP, either. Jeter’s transaction with Yelich looks brilliant in hindsight, as with Stanton’s. He got a lot of trash-talk when he did them, though.
Deleted Userr
The Yelich trade looks horrible for the Marlins. None of the dudes they got in that trade did anything for them and Yelich played at an MVP level his first 3 years in Milwaukee. The Brewers extending Yelich was a 100% separate transaction. Had they not done that he would be a free agent this offseason.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Utah Cornelius the trade was for 2 years of Yelich, aka 2 MVP caliber seasons for junk that never panned out. I know Yelich is signed to that awful contract but that added contract was not part of the original dealer. Jeter looks more like a bird-brain then he does brilliant. That might be one of the worst trades ever. Lewis Brinson did absolutly nothing. Try to keep up
Deleted Userr
Yelich’s original contract gave his team control of him through 2022. Although idk how many of those years were guaranteed and how many were club options.
The other trades Jeter made were outstanding.
utah cornelius
Just as there was no way to foresee Yelich’s MVP or dramatic decline, there was no way to foresee that four prospects would not pan out. If you’re going to discount the prospect outcomes then you have to discount Yelich’s MVP season. Before that he was solid, not a superstar. The MVP season was a total fluke windfall.
utah cornelius
And then, after the MVP season, it was downhill. You can’t blame Jeter for missing the MVP season AND not credit him for the decline. Neither were foreseeable. The decline, by the way, has been a huge albatross. But the MVP and decline are a wash. Milwaukee won nothing. The mediocre outcome on the prospects was also unforeseeable. Miami won nothing.
duhawk83
Two years were MVP caliber not three
utah cornelius
LFGMets
You’re criticizing Jeter for an MVP year that was totally unpredictable. Yellich was not a superstar when he was traded. How can Jeter be blamed for that but by a Jeter hater? Intellectual honesty. Try it. As for Brinson, he was widely regarded as a can’t miss prospect. He failed. It happens. To every team. That’s why they’re called prospects. Try to keep up.
Deleted Userr
Yelich’s decline wouldn’t have been a huge albatross for the Marlins because his original contract only locked him in through 2021 with a club option for 2022. You have to understand that the Brewers didn’t HAVE to extend him. They CHOSE to.
JoeBrady
Jeter looks more like a bird-brain then he does brilliant.
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Only in isolation. Jeter traded Yelich & Ozuna almost simultaneously, and cleared the table with Ozuna. Combined, it was a very decent return.
Spike Hyzer
And with the current OF talent coming up, Yelich could be of some value as a DH who gives them Cain like production.
He did score 99 runs last year and has only cleared 100 3 times.
That could be valuable with a power OF of Taylor, Mitchell and Renfroe.
And my dream IF of Paredes, Adames, Urias, and Hiura from left to right (though that might not be great on defense).
Spike Hyzer
It was way worse than mediocre. They were terrible.
TBH, I didn’t like 3 of the prospects at all and didn’t agree with the “can’t miss” status of Brinson.
outinleftfield
His previous deal was 7/$49.5 million from 2015-2021 with a $15 million option for 2022.
outinleftfield
The Yelich from 2016-2017 was worth more than all the prospects required to acquire him combined. So even if he had never done more than the .833 OPS, 125 wRC+, and 127 OPS+ that he had those years, the Brewers were getting a top 5 OF. fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=of&stats=bat… For the 4 seasons he was already under team control Yelich has had an .888 OPS, 137 wRC+, and 139 OPS+ for the Brewers. Discount his MVP season all you want. The Brewers STILL won that trade handily.
outinleftfield
The season after the 2018 MVP was even better. BA, OPS, wRC+, OPS+.
outinleftfield
Top 5 OF in baseball = superstar. Sorry you don’t understand how that works, but the reason that 4 prospects including a #18-27 overall was traded for him was the fact that he was a superstar already. He was just playing for a team that was terrible.
outinleftfield
On the extension, 2022 is the first year that he made more $$ than he would have under the agreement he signed with the Marlins.
Samuel
1. Jeter did not make the trade. People that worked for him did.
2. The Marlins could not afford to pay those OF’s at that time. They had just leveraged to buy the franchise and had to cut payroll.
Samuel
Spike Hyzer;
Good point!
Why would a small market team that depends on run prevention be concerned about a little ‘ole thing like infield defense?
And you know want would help? Give Jeter 8 years $375m and trade one of those young OF prospects for a pitcher….the guy probably won’t be any good anyway.
JackStrawb
Because Jeter failed to recognize that he was trading a very fine player w/ the MVP potential his own organization had overlooked, and that Milwaukee not only recognized that potential but immediately realized it.
It’s a pity Yelich has been hurt, but stuff happens. That Jeter is a mediocrity who 1) completely failed to realize what he had, and 2) completely failed to pick up any talent in return for a future MVP, are the kinds of things only a Jeterlicker could overlook.
flamingbagofpoop
The Yelich extension was stupid because they still had control of him for multiple years.
Deleted Userr
The point is that the trade and the extension were completely separate transactions. The fact that the Brewers overpaid to extend him doesn’t have any bearing one way or the other on how good the trade was for them.
cwolf20
So incredibly spoiled you are.
jfazen
Ha.
SportsFan0000
You sound like one of those Red Sox fans whining about Dombrowski who has already taken another team to the World Series (Phillies) after he took the Red Sox to a World Series Championship, multiple Division Titles, the best record in Red Sox history etc..
fre5hwind
Good
cwolf20
I know the Pirates, Reds, Cubs, and Cardinal fans who actually pay attention are happy.
duhawk83
I am a happy Cubs Fan, now if they can just fire Craig Counsell and that smarmy look on his face I would be ecstatic!
fre5hwind
Thank you, good man.
DonOsbourne
Actually, as a Cardinals fan, I hate this news. I enjoy having competitive teams in the NL Central as opposed to tanking or just plain terrible teams. The Brewers have been a worthy opponent for several seasons now. I hope that continues. The Cardinals have no reason to fear increased competition.
fre5hwind
I see what you mean considering Cardinals and Brewers actually have a chance.
User 163535993
Wow. This is kind of a surprise. It certainly sounds like he’s open to moving on somewhere. That whole ” Advisory Role” Thing might as well say, Until I find out where I want to go. He’ll land on his feet.
abc123baseball
He’s pretty much been in an advisory role for the past few years anyway with Arnold as active GM.
User 401527550
GM’s take their marching orders from the team president.
citizen
maybe anastacio can trade stearns to the mets for 2 aaa prospects ala john gruden nfl oakland to tampa.
stubby66
I really hope so they gotta make sure Baty is in that package period
User 401527550
Yes no chance of that happening
User 163535993
So Brewers fans are HAPPY about this? That’s really surprising.
deweybelongsinthehall
Bizarre in my view. Given the market, competing with Chicago and St Louis has to be financially challenging.
cwolf20
We’re also Packer fans, which has given us a sense of entitlement. Most of these “fans” didn’t follow baseball before 2018 so they think this is what the normal is.
User 401527550
The Packers and Brewers are pretty much the same. Make the playoffs and lose early in the playoffs. Future not looking to good for either franchise now.
ChuckyNJ
Except the NFL is not baseball and never will be.
SocoComfort
You are taking a short sighted approach to these two franchises. The Packers have 4 super bowl wins and numerous other NFL titles in their history. The last was in 2010. Milwaukee hasn’t won a World Series since the Braves in 57. Since then the packers have won the title 9 different times. The packers are more of a prestigious franchise than the brewers. I definitely see where wolf is coming from.
Spike Hyzer
Only the morons.
TheRealMilo
If they want to suck for the next decade, the Brewers can call Jon Daniels.
SimbaHOF2019
I think he can write his own ticket. Probably wants a team with an actual payroll.. Angels are a team with money that needs some brains.
User 163535993
All I can say is as a Cubs fan I’M HAPPY about this. Just surprised Brewers fans are. I guess everyone north of the border is really taking the whole Hader thing hard.. He was gonna get a big raise and it’s not like they had no replacements. It’s all all about managing the bosses money. I think he was pretty good at it. The whole Yelich thing also. Somebody was going to pay him. If he would of left and kept starring they would of crucified him for that too.
cwolf20
It’s honestly embarrassing how many of my fellow Brewer fans think this is a good thing or that Stearns was bad.
colonel flagg
Not all Brewer fans, but I believe it was inevitable.
Spike Hyzer
They aren’t. There are stray haters coming out of the woodwork. On most fan sites, 90% rate him as the best in baseball and some even say the best in all of sports right now (and a few of us think he’s one of the best of all time in any sport).
No one ever did as much with less talent (and a meddling owner).
Chris Koch
Not sure what to think. Feels like maybe Stearns’ foot was out the door and the Hader trade as well the the other 2 trades sabotaged the Brewers playoff hopes to leave the impression for a change.
On a positive maybe we’ll see Counsell fired now that this has gone down. GL to him.
kwolf68
I think he’s a very good manager. Brewers lineup just wasn’t that good top to bottom this year. The pitching was as usual very good, but they need more consistency in that lineup. Not sure how much they can count on Mitchell, Frelick, Turang, etc., but if those guys can bring some energy to the team, they could improve the offense. Counsell will also know how to properly employ them to get them into positions to succeed. Hiura is a wildcard still, but he could be an impact bat if he can well, figure out MLB pitching.
Chris Koch
Counsell began as a great manager. But these last 2+seasons? Man he has regressed. Hader and his Agent convinced him 1IP late game appearances was all he could do. Instantly Counsell lost the feel at managing the pitchers. Lineups he put out daily…constant change different starters. Nothing consistent. The lack of small ball use at the plate that would proceed to not score runners on 3rd with 1out or even less? Team needs a better leader.
ninerbug
I’d bet every dollar Attanasio forced the signing of Yelich DOOMING The Crew.
Stearns had Yeli for THREE MORE YEARS!!!
Now The Crew cannot compete, and Stearns doesn’t want to be the guy that trades away Hader, Woody and Burnes.
But guess what? That’s what has to happen. Thanks, Mark A.
David couldn’t make this work – and he knows it.
Thanks again, Mark. Stop getting involved!!!
rondon
No offense, but that reads like the front page of a supermarket tabloid.
cwolf20
What reason did you have to think Yelich would instantly crater?
ninerbug
None – but there were 3 years left on his contract! It ran through 2022.
DarkSide830
999/1000 GMs would have given him that extension.
ninerbug
There were 3 years left on his contract. I vehemently disagree.
MannyPineappleExpress9
Darkside- with at least 2 more years left (some guys are saying 3, but I believe it was 2..) on his then current deal, an existing back issue AND not having taken a meaningful at bat since the kneecap injury..? I’m no expert but I’d wait until a couple months into the season to make the offer.
duhawk83
With three years of control left? His explosion to superstardom was unexpected and should have given pause to any GM just to see if there was another season or two of that level of performance. At least he isn’t Jason Heyward bad.
johnrealtime
Do you remember Yelich’s explosion to superstardom? He was quite dominant, it was not a flukey thing, and it lasted for years. I would guess that you and all of the other Captain Hindsight’s in this comment section didn’t have these doubts about his long term success back then
stubby66
Nope your absolutely right and for the last 2 years since his back injury he is gradually getting back into shape and muscle back. I think he will back to a 300 average this coming year. Milwaukee needs to just go with the young guys like Baltimore and Cleveland did. Get Baty back in compensation for Stearn. We will look real good with 2 years still of Burnes and Woodruff.
duhawk83
Lets look at the numberrs; 2013-2017 he averaged 12.8 Home runs and 58.6 RBIs, 2017 2-2018 averaged 40 home runs per season and 103.5 RBIs 2021-2022 avgeraged 11.5 Home runs and 54 RBIs. So I would call the 2017-2018 seasons and explosion.
outinleftfield
Now look at his last 2 seasons in Miami. He was top 5 in baseball among OF. fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=of&stats=bat…
bleedinblue 2
Bottom line: Yelich’s good years didn’t matter. The goal of every team is to win a WS. Did his good years even get them in the WS? Nope. The past does not matter. The future does. And for the next few years the Brewers are paying a superstar contract for an average player which a small market team cannot afford. He’s had enough time to get over his injury. If he can’t get pver it by now he never will.
The Hader trade tanked the Brewers. Gf Time to start talking about the Hader Curse!
SportsFan0000
The Brewers made out big time in the Hader deal!
Wait a few years and you will see the players Milwaukee got back will be part of the core of their next playoffs team.
Deleted Userr
@SportsFan0000 But how does that help them win a WS in 2022?
bleedinblue 2
By the time those guys are ready, IF they work out, their current big name players will be gone. It is the same story with the Brewers. Either their offense is good and the pitching sucks or vice versa.
Samuel
“The goal of every team is to win a WS. Did his good years even get them in the WS?”
LOL
bleedinblue 2;
One out of 30 teams a year wins the WS.
Two out of 30 teams a year gets to the WS.
Do you understand so little about how baseball is played to think that one player is responsible for a team not getting to the WS and winning it?
Mike Trout has been the best player in MLB for years. Do you blame him for them not getting to the WS?
bleedinblue 2
Really Samuel?? I didn’t know (said with sarcasm). My point was the goal is the WS. When you are competing for the playoffs you try and make your team better, not worse. The Hader trade made them worse. They were thinking about how much Hader would cost next year rather than taking advantage of their current position. There is no guarantee they will compete next year so the let their fans down big time.
Even in team sports, like basebsll, one player can make the difference sometimes. Would the Yankees have been on the playoffs without Judge?
And one player can hamstring your roster like Yelich is doing with his bloated salary for a mediocre performance.
outinleftfield
No individual carries his team to the WS. Its a TEAM sport.
Chris Koch
No hindsight needed. How you extend somebody after a season ending kneecap injury before they make any PAs? is beyond me. Yelich was clearly a mental midget at the plate in 2020 and 2021. That knee either bothered him to avoid stepping in to his swing or the pain through his recovery left him scared to repeat injuring himself off a foul ball. All it took was 2020 to see he wasn’t right and you save the franchise from that bad contract. One that will keep them from extending Burnes or Woodruff.
Samuel
Figured something was up when he didn’t extend in Spring Training as people were saying was going to happen.
Like the Rays and others, just promote from within. The system is in place.
If it’s not Mets it’ll be a surprise.
RunDMC
He read MLBTR’s Offseason Outlook for the Brewers, took a deep breath, and stepped down.
getrealgone2
HAH!
duhawk83
Actually, my first thought was he did not want to do the whole rebuild / reload the roster thing. Took a page out of the Theo Epstein playbook
God Help Us All
As a Cub fan, I’m happy.
bleedinblue 2
Hader Curse!
ewitkows
More of his deals work than not. Sad to see him go
Captain Dunsel
The Phillies are happy with their POBO, thank you very much.
SportsFan0000
Haven’t heard a peep from the Dombrowski haters in Boston
who are “barking up the wrong tree” on Dave D.
They should be directing their wrath on their owners, not Dombrowski
who proceeded to build another World Series team in Philadelphia
in only 2 years.
Yes, they had a core in place in Phillie, but it was struggling to play 500 ball and had not had a winning season in 8+ years.
Give credit where credit is due!
Timothy Frith
The Mets will likely hire native New Yorker David Stearns to be their new president of baseball operations after the Brewers let him go because David and Mets GM Billy Eppler are close friends.
SonnySteele
What’s your source for that, Tim?
User 401527550
Every news report on the subject for the last two years.
SonnySteele
Every news report for the last two years says Eppler and Stearns are close friends?
Sunday Lasagna
Andy Martino
“As Martino went onto report, Cohen and the Mets are very fond of Eppler so far, but they remain intrigued in Stearns, a New York native that grew up a Mets fan.
In fact, Martino was told that Eppler might not mind working with Stearns in the future, considering these two are longtime friends”
The Wolf of 67th Street
Brewers fan here.
Speaking on behalf of what I believe to be the majority of fans, we are definitely NOT happy about the news but expected that he was going to leave this year or next.
The job he did as GM was remarkably positive. He took over the team at the end of 2015. At that time, they had a consensus bottom-5 farm system and a major league roster almost completely devoid of long-term assets. The team also had a completely dysfunctional international scouting and development team and no understanding of “analytics” or using advanced statistics. Within two years, they became a perennial contender. Almost all of the valuable players on those teams were acquired during Stearns’ tenure, and most were acquired without any sort of “mortgaging of the future.”
The guy gets an A grade for his time as Brewers GM and President. His legacy is completely turning around a floundering franchise, not a couple of moves at the 2022 trade deadline that did not immediately work out.
SportsFan0000
I would bet that those players the Brewers got back from the Padres in the Hader deal are going to help the Brewers a lot going forward,
The Guardians made a deal a few years back dealing Clevinger to the Padres.
Indians fans were wondering who are all these guys we are getting for Clevinger?!
They are wondering no more. Many of those players helped the Indians win the AL Central this year.
bleedinblue 2
Yeah, because when you get a bunch of players for pne player they are all good. Lamet never even played a game for Milwaukee before the DFA’d him and the Rockies grabbed him. So, 25% of their return is already gone.
Rogers is mediocre and the other two are just prospects. Even with those prospects their farm system is ranked well into the bottom half of the league
Spike Hyzer
That was NEVER part of the return.
Lamet was added ONLY for salary considerations. He refused to be part of the deal and did NOT want to go to MKE.
It was very obviously pre-arranged to DFA him.
They clearly cut at least 2 bad players later that week and could easily gotten rid of the terrible Davis in CF to make room for him.
He was like Dirk Nowitzki: NEVER coming to MKE.
nitnontu
This Brewer’s fan definitely isn’t happy about this. Expected him to move on to greener pastures once contract expired, not before then.
billw-2
looking up the owner, just saw this via wiki (if it’s ok to quote them here) “In August 2022, it was announced that Attanasio would become a director of Norwich City Football Club. Attanasio received major backlash from Brewers fans for this move, as the move came just after Attanasio did not allow Brewers GM David Stearns to make any significant additions to the team at the trade deadline because of “budget constraints”. [12] It was reported that he would be purchasing an 18% stake in the club from Michael Foulger.”
User 401527550
He couldn’t have traded Burnes or Woodruff to the Mets before going to New York?
YourDreamGM
A Willie Beamon.
SportsFan0000
With the starting pitching talent the Brewers received in the Hader deal, I would not be surprised if the Brewers dealt one of their starters who is closer to free agency.
Deleted Userr
Lol Robert Gasser isn’t nearly good enough for the Brewers to be trading established starters.
bleedinblue 2
What starting pitching talent?? Lamet is already gone never playing a game for Milwaukee. Rogers is not a starter. Ruiz is a AAA putfielder and Gasser is in AA so who knows if he will even pan out.
The Brewers will have to either trade their big name starters or spend the money to keep them, which they can’t afford. If they do spend the money it will be at the expense pf quality position players. Especially with Yelich taking up so much salary for bring a mediocre player now.
Deleted Userr
@bleedinblue 2 Burnes, Woodruff and Lauer are all 2 years away from making any real money. And Freddy Peralta is 4 years away. So no, the Brewers do NOT have to spent money to keep them. They could just play out their arb years and let those guys keep dealing in Milwaukee to maximize their chances of winning a title the next 2 years.
citizen
The brewer fans are the same ones who wanted ned yost fired when they were slumping and on the verge of narrowly missing the playoffs. sveuum wasn’t much of a replacement.
Given the payroll restrictions maybe he felt like it was time. but trading a number #1 closer during the middle of a pennant race was dumb. signing badley was worser.
SliderWithCheese
We used to haze that twerp at Harvard. Unfortunately I cannot get into specifics without breaking the creed.
DarkSide830
I’d assume it would hurt your run for president?
SliderWithCheese
I have no desire to throw my hat into the political arena. I’ve turned down several ambassadorships and even a prominent position on a former president’s cabinet. Posting to this site allows me to spend more time with family and it also pays better.
User 2079935927
Uecker is no longer doing Tee Pee talk. Let him run the franchise.
gobrewers2022
Thank u Stearns for all great years Couldn’t have been easy with such low pay roll Had to be difficult to trade Hader but it had to be done I’m not sure if brewers should even allow him to be part any longer cuz most everyone feels he’s heading to Mets Brewers have alot of decisions to make like trades and free agents and how to resign Arnold has very big shoes to fill Now if we can find a owner who has $ to spend Milwaukee doesn’t need alot Wish u well david Stearns and Go Brewers
MsssMariner
David Stearns has been botching up baseball since he was the commissioner. It doesn’t surprise me to see him get blamed for the harder trade but honestly,I think Milwaukee will be better off if some of those players turn out to be good players
gobrewers2022
Maybe Brewers should trade woodruff for Devers in Boston but first resign Devers
baseball1010
He could have kept Hader until the end of the season then traded him. The clubhouse exploded when he traded Hader while they had a chance to make the playoffs.
utah cornelius
Hader sucked. The clubhouse way overreacted, especially since Hader sucked and should have lost the closer job if he hadn’t already..
bjtheduck
This isn’t surprising, other than the timing. I figured Stearns would still be around for another year, then move on to greener pastures.
There were pros and cons to the Stearns era. On the one hand, one can’t discount 4 playoff appearances in a short timespan compared with 4 in the previous 40+ years. Then again, there are no rings or WS appearances to show for it. Maybe I’m just greedy though (that’s the Packers fan in me).
Player development has greatly improved, at least on the pitching side. On the hitting side, it’s the same old “swing for the fences or strike out” type players that have been Brewers staples as long as I can remember. Funny how modern analytics produces the same sort of low-average, high HR, high strikeout players that were already the norm for this team. (Rob Deer says hello.)
Contract extensions have been a mixed bag. The Ashby and Freddy Peralta extensions both look like steals, but the completely unnecessary Yelich extension may very well hamstring this team for nearly the whole decade (and I say this as a Yelich fan who hopes he can return to his pre-injury self).
Most trades have worked out in the Brewers’ favor, even if the 2022 deadline moves weren’t so hot. I still have a “wait and see” attitude about the Hader trade until we see how Ruiz and Gasser pan out.
Overall I’d say the positives outweigh the negatives. Stearns did about as well as can be expected with a small market, low budget team. It’ll be interesting to see how he does with a bigger checkbook.
User 3663041837
Since he’s still under contract for a year is it possible to trade him to another club?
Rsox
He’s probably leaving for the Mets, its just a matter of time. Maybe the prospect of going backwards after several years of going forward didn’t appeal to him.
LordD99
By stepping down into an advisory role, it will enable other organizations to interview him for PoBO opportunities. The Brewers know he’s be leaving in one year, so this will provide for a smoother transition on both sides.
padam
Pretty much. I’d be surprised if it was anywhere else other than them.
Jerry Cantrell
Who can blame him for not wanting to stick around while this team continues to fade into the sunset with this crap roster and small-ish payroll that offers no glimpse of even making the playoffs in the foreseeable future?
Samuel
!NolanGorman16!;
How many weeks have you been following MLB?
Jerry Cantrell
For more than you have been alive. Get back to your pack-and-play, Sammy.
Samuel
LOL
Doubt it.
hiflew
I think you used the word infamous wrong. Infamous refers to something that is notable in a negative way. Those swaps may have been infamous to the OTHER teams, but they were hardly infamous for Stearns and the Brewers.
HalosHeavenJJ
Was really hoping the new Angels owners would lss as me him after his contract expired.
Unlikely now as he’ll have a job in no time.
Samuel
HalosHeavenJJl
The Angels have a terrific GM.
If your ask him, David Stearns will tell you that.
HalosHeavenJJ
We don’t have a President of Baseball Operations and our front office is still much smaller than most MLB clubs.
Even if Stearns likes Perry, we could still use more brainpower.
Samuel
Perry is the GM.
And that’s what I wrote.
outinleftfield
I can usually deciper autocorrect, but what does “lss as me” mean?
kripes-brewers
I think he’s saying he wanted the Angels to sign Stearns once his contract was actually up
HalosHeavenJJ
That is horrible on my end. I wanted the Allen’s new owners to pursue him.
Cardsfanatik redux
I’d take him in St. Louis. I think Stearns is amazing. This is a big loss for Milwaukee. Baseball needs guys like him.
Cheeseman Forever
He’ll be gone soon, most likely to the Mets. I don’t see how or why hanging around for a year in an “advisory role” (in other words, looking over the shoulder of his successor) is good for the Brewers organization. Give Matt Arnold a chance to show what he can do.
chris17
Stearns had nothing to do with the Carlos Gomez trade. Doug Melvin made that trade in July 2015 and Stearns was hired in September 2015 I believe
chris17
2015 obviously
duhawk83
For all of the success, no World Series Rings for Brewers Fans!
hiflew
Thanks Ricky Bobby, but you can be successful without finish at the very top. Only one team per year wins the World Series. That doesn’t mean the other 29 teams were failures. There are different grades of success.
It’s just like in a classroom. When 30 kids take a test, The one with the highest score is not the only one that will pass. Stearns may not have gotten the highest score on the test, but he was still a solid A/B student.
miggywrld
David Stearns you are the GM of the Detroit Tigers!
SportsFan0000
Not likely that Sterns would take a demotion to GM after being Pres of Baseball Ops in Milwaukee,
More likely that Sterns goes to the Mets or another ballclub looking
for a Pres of Baseball Ops.
Marlins?! Mets?! Reds?! Rangers?!
Pads Fans
One of his “other interests” has been moving into an ownership position and clearly that is not happening in Milwaukee if he stepped down.
knolln
Gomez showed out for Texas, that trade was a massive win for mil.
Attystephenadams
There’s a bigger opportunity for him with the Mets. Sandy Alderson is stepping aside as President. That’s probably the likely position that Stearns will be offered by Steve Cohen.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
I hope he isn’t hired by the Mets. Hes Sandy Alderson 2.0, no thanks. Trading one of the best closers in the game in the middle of a pennant race is a disgrace. Completely ruined the Brewers chances at a Wild Card spot
utah cornelius
Except for the fact that Hader was pitching horribly before the trade and continued to pitch horribly after the trade, you might have a point. Now if you want to critique the trade itself, we’ll just have to wait and see how that turns out.
JoeBrady
It’s amazing how many people criticize the trade with absolutely -0- knowledge of the stats.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@JoeBrady Hader gave up about 6 runs in 2 seperate appearances before the deadline. He had something like a 20 inning scoreless streak before those 2 bad outings. He was not the problem
JoeBrady
LFGMets (Metsin7)4 hours ago
@JoeBrady Hader gave up about 6 runs in 2 seperate appearances before the deadline.
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Hader gave up 6 runs once. If you take off Hader’s worse performance, his ERA with SD would be 4.02. If you take off Rogers worst performance with Mil, his ERA was 4.03. Hader’s inherited runners score was 33% Same as Rogers.
SportsFan0000
That Hader deal was an old fashioned baseball trade:
Hader helps the Padres this year and next (even though he bombed in the 2nd half for the Padres with a high ERA). He was good in the playoffs.
Longterm: Advantage Brewers
left-handed pitchers Taylor Rogers and Robert Gasser, right-hander Dinelson Lamet and outfielder Esteury Ruiz.
Two highly rated young starting pitching players/prospects
A young versatile INF that hits, hits, hits.
That deal gives the Brewers more depth, team control and will allow them to deal one of their starters closer to free agency for more hitters.
The Brewers were not a World Series team this year.
This deal could, eventually, help make them one.
hiflew
Except they released Lamet before he ever played for them and Rogers didn’t pitch particularly well for them.
outinleftfield
Rogers is a FA I think and Lamet was DFAd. Ruiz tore it up in the minors this season at 23 and seems like the real deal, but Gasser got roughed up in AAA Nashville. I don’t think you can say that the Brewers won this trade until you see what 2023 brings. If the Padres have truly fixed Hader’s mechanical issues and he returns to the dominant closer he was early in the 2022 season, that is a clear Padres win.
Deleted Userr
@SportsFan0000 Who besides you says the Brewers weren’t a World Series team this year? Once you make it to the postseason anything can happen. The worst NL team to make the playoffs just won the NL pennant for the second year in a row.
And if the Brewers weren’t a WS team as you say why did they even bother trying for Taylor Rogers the pending FA?
SliderWithCheese
Can’t blame him. I mean all Milwaukee has is Summerfest, disgusting beer, Antetokounmpo, and Jeffery Dahmer’s torn down apartment complex.
AgeeHarrelsonJones
Ha.
Poster formerly known as . . .
About Josh Hader and the trade to SD . . .
I’m not going to talk about the alleged effect of the trade on his Brewers teammates, nor about the return that Stearns got from the Padres in the trade (at the time of the trade, I thought the Brewers did pretty well in that swap).
But I do want to point out that SD pitching coach Ruben Niebla identified some mechanical issues and returned Hader to the dominance we’d all been accustomed to. Hader was money in September and unhittable in the playoffs.
If the Brewers have anything to discuss pertaining to Hader, maybe it should be: Why didn’t Milwaukee coaches identify the mechanical problems that Niebla identified?
SportsFan0000
Tell us why San Diego has a ton of top pitching prospects and cannot develop them to excel “in house”.
Many of their young arms they deal perform even better after they are traded?!
Poster formerly known as . . .
Teams have different coaches in the minors than with their major league team, SportFan.
The question, again, is why the Brewers’ major league coaches didn’t identify what the Padres’ major league coaches did identify.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Additionally, training a prospect who may or may not amount to anything special in the majors is a different proposition than restoring to effectiveness a reliever who ranked #1 in fWAR from 2017 through 2021, tied with Liam Hendriks, and was alone at the top in K%.
Astrosfn1979
Interesting
Brett Strom said the same thing last year then became the Arizona pitching coach a week later.
James Click does not have a contract for 2023 and owner Jim Crane is on record as not liking his conservative style and lack of impact moves.
Crane loved and respected Luhnow’s way of acquiring talent and using prospects as assets for that.
Stearns was in Houston as Luhnow’s right hand man.
It all adds up.
outinleftfield
Brent. They are in the WS. Click is obviously doing something right. If Crane moves on from Click, that is his mistake and Click will be the POBO for another team in 2023. He won’t be out of a job long. Right now Stearns is still under contract with the Brewers. Another team would have to compensate the Brewers for signing him. Do you really think Crane would be willing to give up a 1st round pick to get him? I don’t.
Deleted Userr
Not necessarily. The Padres didn’t have to compensate the A’s for Bob Melvin.
SportsFan0000
Padres deal was an “insider” type deal.
Billy Beane and Bob Melvin have been long time friends.
A’s Ownership had ordered a tear down & complete rebuild.
Padres had a team “locked and loaded” and ready for a playoffs run.
When Preller called for permission to interview Melvin, Billy Beane did the classy thing and did not “hard ball” the Padres.
Beane did not want to stand in Melvin’s way and/or prevent him from joining a potential World Series team.
The A’s could have asked the Padres for compensation.
But., they allowed a long term, loyal A’s Manager to take a better
job with a team that had a shot at a Championship.
benhen77
Mets can finally have their man.
JackStrawb
Unless Stearns was caught with an intern, that’s the only explanation.
jjd002
Welcome to Houston
Toms Changeup
Dayton Moore to the brewers
BenBenBen
No. The Gomez trade was made by Melvin. Stearns doesn’t get credit for finding Hader.
JackStrawb
Yup. That was a 2015 mid-season deal with Houston. Stearns didn’t arrive until after the Brewski’s 2015 season was over.
Poster formerly known as . . .
Really? My Seinfeld joke gets deleted after half a dozen commenters got the joke?
What’d happen if I dropped a “Cheers” reference — I’d get banned?
JackStrawb
And early in November Stearns will be in New York at a press conference with Cohen, talking about ‘this unprecedented opportunity,’ and that ‘yes, I felt obliged to take the 5/$25m offer for the sake of my family’s best interests.’
As long as they get Stearns there (or anyone, really) before Eppler and Alderson are allowed to make any moves.