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Tigers Notes: Lorenzen, Lange, Knapp

By Anthony Franco | February 13, 2023 at 7:45pm CDT

The Tigers added right-hander Michael Lorenzen on a one-year, $8.5MM guarantee earlier this offseason. He’ll add some depth to a Detroit rotation that’ll be without Casey Mize and Tarik Skubal to start the season (likely the whole year in the former’s case), joining Eduardo Rodriguez, Spencer Turnbull, Matt Manning and Matthew Boyd in the presumptive season-opening rotation. The 31-year-old indicated today he’s hoping to expand his responsibilities beyond the mound.

Lorenzen told reporters he’s angling for an opportunity to log some at-bats this season (link via Evan Woodbery of MLive.com). He’s dabbled with being a two-way player in years past, most notably when he combined for 87 plate appearances with the 2018-19 Reds. Lorenzen only hit once in each of his final two seasons with Cincinnati and didn’t do so at all last year with the Angels, whom he said declined his request for at-bats. The eight-year MLB veteran said this morning he devoted some time this offseason to tinkering with his swing mechanics.

Over 147 big league plate appearances, Lorenzen is a .233/.282/.429 hitter. He’s connected on seven home runs and stolen five bases in seven attempts, showing an intriguing power/speed combination. Yet his overall offensive production — while excellent compared to other pitchers — has been well worse than that of a league average hitter thanks to a meager 4.8% walk rate and huge 32% strikeout percentage. Of course, Lorenzen has never had an extended run of everyday looks at live pitching to get into a groove. Whether the Tigers are willing to give him even stray at-bats or some outfield work remains to be seen.

In other news out of the Motor City:

  • Reliever Alex Lange declined an opportunity to pitch for Puerto Rico in the upcoming World Baseball Classic, telling Chris McCosky of the Detroit News he preferred to focus on the season. Lange spoke of his desire to seize the closer’s role heading into 2023. Detroit dealt last year’s primary closer, Gregory Soto, to Philadelphia last month. Andrew Chafin, Joe Jiménez and Michael Fulmer — the other three hurlers who had multiple saves for the club last year — are all on different teams as well. That’ll leave manager A.J. Hinch relying on someone (or multiple pitchers) without much closing experience in the ninth inning. Lange certainly will be in line for high-leverage innings in some capacity after striking out 30.3% of opponents with a massive 55.6% grounder rate over 63 1/3 innings. He posted a 3.41 ERA and held 21 leads in a setup capacity, with an 11.4% walk percentage the only red flag in his performance. Will Vest, José Cisnero and Jason Foley could also battle for work late in games.
  • While Lorenzen and Lange are sure to assume key roles on the club, catcher Andrew Knapp will fight for a roster spot this spring. The veteran backstop inked a minor league deal with Detroit on the heels of a 2022 campaign that saw him log time in four different organizations. Knapp recently chatted with Evan Petzold of the Detroit Free-Press about his push for the #2 catching job behind Eric Haase. More broadly, the switch-hitter noted he’s excited to learn from Hinch — a former big league catcher — both in his desire to improve as a leader of a pitching staff and with an eye towards his longer-term future. Knapp noted he’d “really enjoy pursuing a managing career if that’s an opportunity I ever get” in his post-playing days. At age 31, he could certainly extend his playing career for a while before worrying about the next phase, starting with a push for a roster spot in Detroit. Jake Rogers — who’s returning after spending all of last season rehabbing from Tommy John surgery — and recent trade acquisition Donny Sands join Haase as the three backstops on the 40-man roster.
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39 Comments

  1. Mark Fichtel

    2 years ago

    This team is beyond terrible. I’d rather watch Pedro Cerrano, Willie Mays Hays, and Rick Vaughn come back and do another Major League movie.

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    • For Love of the Game

      2 years ago

      What do you think of the Royals, A’s, Nationals, Pirates, and Reds (all worse than the Tigers) plus the Rangers, Marlins, and Rockies who were slightly above the Tigers? That’s 30% of MLB teams who were the same vicinity of the Tigers.

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        2 years ago

        Unfortunately that’s today’s baseball. Only 10-12 teams in the large markets go to spring training knowing they have the resources to get to the playoffs. The rest have been priced out of the current market.

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      • The Saber-toothed Superfife

        2 years ago

        That justifies poor leadership? Hardly.

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    • wileycoyote56

      2 years ago

      This will probably be the best team we’ve fielded since 14! It’s all there if things fall right, no pressures, quiet talent, and Karma. This could be an interesting year

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      • someone33

        2 years ago

        Don’t compare this team at all to our 2014 dynasty. That was our last year with a well-rounded team, and I expect 3-4 years at least to develop a team near that level.

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    • wileycoyote56

      2 years ago

      This could easily be a .500 club if it gets a few breaks, god knows they deserve it. Lot of ifs, but anything’s possible, no pressure to perform might help them become a better team

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    • wileycoyote56

      2 years ago

      I agree. .500 isn’t out of reach, especially when nobody has expectations. This club could be better than expected if they reach talent levels we thought they had last year

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      • BeansforJesus

        2 years ago

        Well if Wileycoyote56 and Wileycoyote56 are in agreement on the tigers potential to reach .500 this year, then who we to argue?

        If only one said it, I might be skeptical. But, both Wiley’s??? When that happens, you know good things are on the horizon.

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        • avenger65

          2 years ago

          Don’t forget wileycoyote56 number three. And that one is also in agreement with wileycoyote56 and wileycoyote56.

          Reply
        • BeansforJesus

          2 years ago

          The Council of Wileys has spoken.

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    • detroitfan69

      2 years ago

      You will be watching them

      Reply
  2. kylek58

    2 years ago

    This is a season where the Tigers are going to feel out some things, why not give Lorenzen some at bats? We don’t have much to lose this year from giving him the opportunity.

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    • WestVillageTiger

      2 years ago

      Don’t start reminding me if Anthony Gose.

      Reply
  3. GarryHarris

    2 years ago

    The Tigers had an excellent pen last season then unloaded them.

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    • tg0880

      2 years ago

      That’s a bit of an overstatement they started off well and really struggled for the most part all of august

      Reply
  4. waitsfornoone

    2 years ago

    Where have you gone, Earl Wilson? The lonely Tigers nation turns it eyes to you.

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    • ThonolansGhost

      2 years ago

      This season won’t be good, but probably won’t be “beyond terrible”, either. I’d guess 75 wins.

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  5. Motor City Beach Bum

    2 years ago

    The best we can hope for is .500 and that is if things break right. I actually think the starters will be half decent and I think Rodriguez, Wentz and Boyd will have good seasons. Not as sold on Manning, although I’m not counting him out. Lorenzen has topped out as a 5th starter. I still have hopes gor Brieske and can’t wait for Skubal to get back. I think Lange is a more than adequate replacement for Soto and Wingentner and Uceta could be interesting reclamation projects. This year is about test drives to prepare for next year.

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    • roob

      2 years ago

      I don’t hate the Tigers but there’s no chance that this team even sniffs .500.

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    • Dogs

      2 years ago

      Spencer Turnbull?

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      • Motor City Beach Bum

        2 years ago

        Sorry totally forgot him until after. My bad.

        Reply
  6. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    I think you guys will like Lorenzen. Hopefully he will stay healthy and hope he gets some at bats and some time in center field. He is actually a decent outfielder.

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    • stymeedone

      2 years ago

      As he is on a one year contract, and not part of the future, I would hope Hinch will give those ABs to Carpenter, and any other young OF that may be on the team. No reason to waste them on Lorenzen.

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      • This one belongs to the Reds

        2 years ago

        You’ll want to give them to someone who should be in the big leagues, whoever they might be.

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      • ThonolansGhost

        2 years ago

        Yeah, the Tigers will likely use a five man outfield (Greene, A. Meadows, Baddoo, Carpenter and Vierling) this year. Haase could spend some time out there,too. And P. Meadows and Malloy will like get called up at some point. No reason to put Lorenzon out there.

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        • For Love of the Game

          2 years ago

          A. Meadows, Greene, and Vierling/Badoo platoon if Akil sticks. Carpenter will likely platoon with Miggy at DH unless he clobbers the ball, in which case he could play RFand DH.

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        • ThonolansGhost

          2 years ago

          Carpenter will absolutely platoon with Miggy, but he’ll likely get some outfield reps as well.

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        • someone33

          2 years ago

          This whole idea and outfield cohesiveness depends on A. Meadows health. If he goes down like last season to miss upwards of 100 games, we won’t look at anything above 80 wins. A. Meadows is crucial to our lineup.

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  7. nitnontu

    2 years ago

    I’m not so sure as others that tigers will be terrible again this season. They looked like they were about to turn the corner 2 years ago and then almost everyone on the team sucked or were hurt at the same last season. Seems unlikely that will happen again.

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    • ThonolansGhost

      2 years ago

      Agreed.

      Reply
  8. Rsox

    2 years ago

    Tigers rotation was decimated by injuries last season and Lorenzon himself missed considerable time while with the Angels. I doubt the Tigers are in a hurry to let him hit/play CF

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  9. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    2 years ago

    I think the Tiger f.o..has been paying fakes to lead a rah rah….pushing the idea of a pass year for them, telling fans .500 ball is a worthy goal.

    Horse hockey, Chris.

    !
    Anything short of World Series win is pathetic. The City of Detroit deserves much more.
    Rodney Dangerfield got more.

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  10. Steve Rogers

    2 years ago

    How’s Baez looking this season?

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  11. gotigers68

    2 years ago

    Looking like another ho-hummer of a year…..again.

    Reply
  12. dano62

    2 years ago

    It’s going to be another rough year, with so many questions and likely ‘meh’ answers. I don’t understand why they targeted Losenge over half a dozen others including Wacha (less $ no doubt) and will depend a lot on Greene & Torkleson to take a huge step. I predict another No. 1 draft pick in their future…

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  13. SportsFan0000

    2 years ago

    The Tigers, when healthy a few years ago, were one lost/terrible April from pennant contention. They played 7 games over 500 after April that year with similar players.

    Hinch will get the best out of these young players sprinkled with veterans.

    Some of the younger Tigers players are due to take “steps forward” like: Torkelson, Greene, Jake Rodgers, Ryan Kreidler, Kerry Carpenter, Badoo . LHSP Joey Wentz, LHSP Tarik Skubal, LHSP Mathew Boyd, RHSP Spencer Turnbull etc..

    The Tigers bullpen looks to be a strength, again, even after trades and free agents (Gregory Soto, Michael Fullmer, Joe Jimenez, Chavin etc)…

    There could be a few “surprise contributors” also like 3B/OF Justin Henry Malloy (from Braves in Joe Jimenez trade who was rated the top Braves minor league player and minor league All Star last year). He can hit and play defense, He could even break camp as an extra INF/OF and push others for a starting job.

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    • SportsFan0000

      2 years ago

      Justin Henry Malloy 2022: 289 BA 17 home runs 81 RBI 862 OPS.

      2022 MiLB.com Organization All-Star Atlanta Braves

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    • SportsFan0000

      2 years ago

      Tigers New Pres of Baseball Ops Scott Harris has a reputation of finding young and veteran players (diamonds in the rough) and getting the most out of them with his talented Front Office and Coaching staffs.
      He won what 107 games with a Giants team that was not even thought to be a contender that year.
      The Tigers won’t come close to that this year, but the building blocks and foundation are being put in place for a solid run of contention in ’25 or ’26/

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