Angels manager Phil Nevin told reporters (including Sam Blum of The Athletic) today that catcher Logan O’Hoppe has a torn labrum on his left (non-throwing) shoulder that will require surgery. The 23-year-old catcher, who was placed on the 10-day injured list yesterday, is expected to miss four to six months, potentially putting his season in jeopardy.
O’Hoppe was acquired by the Angels at the trade deadline last season in the deal that sent outfielder Brandon Marsh to the Phillies. A consensus top-50 prospect in the sport entering the 2023 season, O’Hoppe earned the Angels’ starting catching job out of camp this season despite having just five games of big league experience under his belt as Max Stassi began the season on the injured list. The youngster was off to an impressive start this season, with a .283/.339/.547 slash line across 16 games that was good for a wRC+ of 142.
Losing such a productive bat for most, if not all, of the remainder of the season is a massive blow to the Angels, who have largely seen their offense struggle outside of superstars Mike Trout and Shohei Ohtani, with only O’Hoppe and outfielder Hunter Renfroe posting an above average wRC+ so far this season among the rest of the club’s offense.
In addition to losing O’Hoppe’s bat, the Angels now find themselves without either half of their usual starting tandem, as Stassi does not appear to be close to a return from the hip ailment that sidelined him at the start of the season. Until Stassi returns, the Angels figure to use Matt Thaiss, who opened the season as the club’s third catcher, and journeyman Chad Wallach behind the plate. Neither of those options inspire the same confidence that O’Hoppe would, as Wallach sports just a 59 wRC+ in 274 career plate appearances since his MLB debut with the Reds in 2017, while Thaiss only began catching in 2021 and has a career wRC+ of 81 in 298 plate appearances.
Given the worrying situation behind the plate for Anaheim, it wouldn’t be a shock to see the club explore external catching options to supplement their current group. Robinson Chirinos and Austin Romine are available on the free agent market, while Gary Sanchez and Jorge Alfaro are among the catchers with significant big league experience who are on minor league deals in other organizations.
Theres no Hoppe for this Angels team
Free Mickey Moniak
Free Trout and Ohtani, this franchise is even more cursed than the A’s.
Trout is free. He freely chose to be a career Angel with a full no-trade clause. Ohtani is free too and will sign elsewhere at the end of the year.
Cursed my ass. This 11-11 team would be 14-8 with even a decent bullpen. This team can’t build a pen. They try to buy one every year and it falls flat. That Royals game 2 nights ago was an embarrassment.
If you build a pen, the wins will come.
Their starting is proving that wrong. Angels were 3rd in the AL in ERA going into Saturday’s game, but 9th in SP ERA. Go back and look at games where the Angels were in seesaw battles, and you’ll see that starters were giving up around 5 ER before the pen even came in. Take Ohtani out of the rotation and see what you’re left with. But there are improvements coming from Detmers and Canning. Sandoval has been back and forth. Anderson and Suarez are the main culprits of their rotation’s inconsistency.
Blown saves are a poor evaluator of bullpens. Most of the games the Angels bullpen has blown have been games where their starting pitching tanked in the middle innings and/or their bats were asleep. The bullpen was 3rd in the AL in ERA before Quijada’s meltdown. But Anderson also allowed 5 ER, 6 R total. That was the same case in that 12-11 loss to the Blue Jays. Detmers fell apart in the 6th. The bulk of the Angels’ runs allowed is in innings 4-7. That’s mostly on inconsistent starting pitching.
@Ryan Finally, someone else that actually watches Angels games. Quijada was horrible yesterday, but so was Anderson. If either pitched well, they likely win. It happens to all teams, the Brewers had the best bullpen ERA, but not after today since they gave up 9 ER in one inning.
People tend to have false expectations of bullpens. You can’t expect a bullpen to hold a 1 run lead in the sixth and expect them to hold it particularly when the team isn’t scoring runs. The Angels tend to score early and do nothing the rest of the game. Teams score 4 or 5 runs a game, it is just basic math understanding a 1 run lead is unlikely to hold up for 3 or 4 innings..
The reality is the team isn’t doing anything well.
Hitting? #25 with RISP
Fielding? #24 in errors
Starting Pitching? Ohtani and pray for a 5 day tsunami. Unfortunately, we don’t get a lot of those in OC.
stolen bases? .27th with 6 SB. A lot of teams are taking advantage of the new rules. Even the teams that are not typically known for running. The team actually has decent speed, but they refuse to run because Trout was injured a few years ago on a SB attempt.
There is nothing the team is doing well enough to win. I had high expectations this year, but unfortunately it has been disappointing thus far. The starters have been bad, lineup is inconsistent, they can’t catch. I am not giving up hope yet. Other playoff hopeful teams are in the same boat, but losing O’Hoppe is a big blow.
No it wouldn’t because if we are playing the “What If Game,” the Mariners at full strength and playing to the back of their baseball cards would’ve beat the crap out of the Angels regardless of Ohtani, Trout, or all of the other signees. Your rotation is trash also aside from future Mariner Ohtani and accidentally developed Patrick Sandoval. Tyler Anderson, garbage, Reid Detmers is a backend starter (lefty version of Richards), Barria and Suarez are #5 starters at best. The bullpen is trash though.
As for your position players, Ward isn’t as good as he was in 2022, neither is Drury as good as he was in the 1st half, while the rest of your infielders are a mess. The only good players you have in your lineup is Ohtani, the chronically injured Trout, your catcher who’ll miss most if not all of 2023, and Renfroe who is playing way over his head so far in 2023. You guys have lots of names, but most of those guys have had fleeting success and were once much more talented than they are going to be going forward. Angels won’t win 80 games this year. God save them if they run into a fully healthy and producing playoff caliber team.
But at least when that team falls there’s fans in the stands to hear it!
Thank God We Aren’t All Trolls!
Do You hate much ?!?! Now go to the M’s board’s and talk them up over there. Hate to break it to you, the M’s aren’t nearly as good as u think they are.
Thank God MLB Added More Playoff Spots! Now the M’s might not go 20 plus years again to make the playoffs.
You don’t think we watch Angel games.
Quijada has the same problem he always has. He has control issues and is a fly ball pitcher. It’s a bad combination and is prone to the occasional blow up.
ERA is a poor bullpen indicator. Who cares if a pitcher shuts out the opposing team in a blowout.
Who cares that Wantz has a zero ERA when he has allowed 6 of 8 inherited runners to score.
WPA seems to be a darn good indicator.
RISP is not a predictive stat. I don’t even know why people use it. Errors are not all that useful either.
And if you watch the Angles, their pen has given away 7 games. ERA doesn’t tell you that.
You say you watch games, but why would you bring up Wantz allowing 6 of 8 runs if you did.. He came with the bases loaded yesterday. He got soft contact 63mph exit velocity from Dozier, which had a xBA of 0.060, but turned into a infield hit. Nicky Lopez hit a DP ball,which would have got them out of the inning, but Ushela stumbled going to first and ended up committing an error, which allowed 2 more runs. Wantz did his job, but some things are beyond the pitcher’s control/ This is why it is important to watch the games. Yes, the runs scored, but I wouldn’t put it on Wantz.. If you watched it, I don’t believe you would blame Wantz..
RISP is how you score more runs. It doesn’t matter that it’s not a predictive stat, when I am referring to results thus far. RISP is the reason the Rangers are in first place.
Errors matter. The Angels have lost multiple games because of errors. Yes, catchers interference counts as an error.
ERA doesn’t tell you the runs let in by errors or how much run production the team is getting late either.
Angels are 2nd in holds with 20 and 4th with 8 saves. Yes, they have 6 blown saves., not quite 7, but it is still bad. Whether you use bwar or fwar, the Angels are middle of the pack for bullpen. bwar uses RA, which does account for runs allowed even with errors and fwar,, which uses FIP. The Angels would be much better with fwar since they havent given up a lot HRs as a bullpen.and the defense has let them down multiple times.
It doesn’t matter. Did he miss bats? A shallow fly ball? A pop out?
That’s what an RPs is suppose to do. When they need to miss bats… They miss bats. The Angels have a runner on third with no outs and Renfro and Rengifo go down on strikes. No runs scores.
THAT’S WHAT RPs are suppose to do. Not allow 6 of 8 runners to score. And it also tells you why ERA is not useful.
People talk about errors? Well Loup hit two batters to start the inning. Shocking they scored.
Cather’s interference, one of those balls was caught against the wall.
YES, I WATCH THE GAMES. I don’t give a flying leap what Wantz’s ERA is when 6 of 8 inherited runners score.
Second in holds? Could it be because they have a lead in almost every game? Herget is second on the team… AND THEY SENT HIM DOWN!!!
Talk about meaningless.
By the way, what’s the Angels slugging with men on base. It’s just as important as batting average with RISP. But people don’t talk about it because it’s not a buzzword announcers use.
But it really doesn’t matter. Neither are predictive. If a team hits, RISP typically evens out. If they can slug, so does that.
The Angels are batting 18th in batting average. Fifteenth in OBP. Sixteenth in slugging. If you want to say that’s a problem fine.
But when you talk about starters ERA. Suarez and Anderson suck. Why are you combining that with Detmers, Canning, Ohtani, and Sandoval? Suarez is not long for this rotation, and Anderson flat out sucks.
“Cursed my ass. This 11-11 team would be 14-8 with” holy moly this is a dumb comment. Literally proves my point!!! This Angels team is CURSED and the curses name is ARTE.
It’s April 24 and youre bringing up stats and metrics? Just say you got into MLB 2 years ago…
GoogleMe, hands down, no questions, your winning this debate with Halo11. 100% all 4 phases of the game are responsible for 2 or 3 of there 11 loses (11-11). That’s SP’s, RP’s hitting and D.
The Pen is not responsible for 7 of the 11 games lost, just because they have 6 or 7 blow saves. That is so F N funny thou.
Up 1 run after 5 or 6 innings, and the Pen comes in and gives up 1 to tie, win or lose that game, that’s a blown saves. You can’t expect ANY pen to be perfect
Like u said earlier, they do have to score more in the 2nd half of the games. That goes a long way in holding leads, let alone actually WINNING the game. which they’ve been horrible at.
Bottom line, when they start playing good all around team baseball, that’s when they’ll take off, and be where they want to be. 1st place 😉
Winning a debate? The Angels pen has blown 7 games, at least.
Let’s look at Zero ERA Wantz.
He comes into a game with a four nothing lead, two batters later the score is 4 to 2. Is that a good outing?
He comes into a game with the bases loaded. All three runners score.. Is that a good game?
He comes into a game with a two run lead. He makes an error, and two batters later it’s a tie game.
His ERA is zero, but his WPA is a tick below average.
I really don’t care if some moron thinks I’m winning a debate or not.
HOLDS? What an idiot. Wow, that happens when your team is ahead in all but a couple of games.
Moron? Nice! Stay respectful you grump. BTW, Holds are just as good as a Save. Without a Hold, u don’t get a Save. Since u rarely get a Starter going 8 innings. Stay classy my friend..
Wantz has zero holds. Herget has four.
Wantz WPA is a average, Herget’s is horrible.
One second Google talks about pens holding a one run lead with three innings to play, then he talks about holds, as if all holds are created equal. The label Moron fits. He’s talking out of both sides of his mouth.
But do you know of a stat that measures tough and easy hold.. Tough vs easy situations? WPA.
It’s a stat he dismisses and then inserts really lame data to take its place.
Angels are 24th in WPA. You guys continue to spin in the most imaginative, and moronic ways possible.
The pen has lost at least seven games.
There is no perfect stat by itself to measure a pitcher this early. Even your new love affair with WPA is terrible, since it’s a super small sample size. Just like ERA this early, one bad outings will distort both.
Another thing with the inherited runners stat u like so much. That stat isn’t all that great either. Especially in your eyes, because you give no responsibility to the Starting pitcher that loads them up, with no outs and leaves.
Here’s something, a RP comes in for a start of a inning, and gets 3 outs and gives up 1 lousy seeing eye single, and he done for the day.
Great job pitcher!
Now, Wantz comes in, u know, the zero ERA guy u think is terrible.
He comes in with the bases loaded no outs. Does the same thing as above. 3 outs 1 seeing eye single. Now that’s 3 inherited runs scored most of the times.
Now this pitcher is terrible.
Lol… The stats not great.
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fwiw, there’s an article in “The Athletic” today proclaiming Wantz as the Angels best RP. Among other things, it notes that Wantz has given up three hits and one walk in ten innings with ten SOs.
I’m trying to find the best stats I can. But when someone fires a shot across my bow and says I don’t watch the games, I get pissed. My anger is warranted. I watch every game on TV, and listen to the games that are not. And I’ve been doing that since the 60s.
This pen hasn’t been good. I don’t know how people miss that. There is some hope, but those are six games the Angels will not get back.
Moore has been good, Estevez has been good. Kudos to Perry. And I hope Wantz can come into the game with men on base, not everyone can.
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Halo, you are a passionate Angels fan and it’s clear you have been for several years. No one can ever deny that. And I believe you watch and/or listen to every game. The Angels, MLBTR and MLBTRs readers are lucky to have you.
That’s fine Halo11, I wouldn’t question if one watches all the games and every inning. I do question saying the Pen is responsible solely for 7 of the 11 loses. One could say 5 games, each is there own. But I pin a couple of those games on Nevin, and his bad BP management the 1st couple weeks. He’s been better the last week or so on that, in letting guys Finnish innings when there doing fine. So let’s hope he continues that.
Notani is no Trout. Mik hits way better than Notani with blinders
To be fair, no team can build a half-decent bullpen. Relievers are the most volatile position in baseball. But yeah, the Angels’ pen is atrocious
@Halo You missed the point. I brought up H/S to counter your point that bullpens pitching in close games matter more than those pitching in blowouts. Hold and saves are indicators of pitching in close games.
No one uses WPA to be the end all be all for relief pitchers except you and for good reason. The Marlin’s are #1 in WPA. They are not a good bullpen. The highest HR/9 in baseball. Before yesterday,
the Rangers were on top, but the bullpen gave up a 6-0-0 lead late in the game. The Rangers only had 3 saves because they have been blowing teams out. Pitching under those circumstances, any bullpen can look good. Games like that are brutal on WPA, taking a 90% win probability to losing.
If you understand that coming into a game with bases loaded and no outs is different than coming in with a runner of first and 2 outs. Again no one who understands stats puts a high value on inherited runners.
@PnP LOL, ya Halo loses debates constantly, so there is no joy in winning a debate with him. He resorts to name calling, which is a sure tell sign that he lost. Little people act brave behind a keyboard.
He tends to put every loss on the bullpen because that is his narrative and limited understanding.. I think most Angel fans see other shortcomings for the team as well.
Rather than defeating trolls on the internet, I would rather just the Angels win for a change.. It has been a rough for us Angel fans.
Same story over and over for the Angels! Players have the one big year prior to free agency and then we give them the big payday and then they suck all the way to the bank! Hamilton, Upton, Cozart, Rendon and our newest member Tyler Anderson! When your minor league system is horrible you gamble by having to sign free agents and we have yet to have one earn their big contract!
RBF. That happens far too often.
For Love of the Game
O’Hoppeless? It gets worse, Angel friends. Catchers take longer to recover from labrun surgery than other position players because of the multiple arm angles they must throw from. I’d take the over on the 4-6 month range. Hopefully he will be fine next season, but you hate to look that far forward in April!
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Now I re-read it and see non-throwing arm. I’m dumb, sorry.
Until the Angels develop a legitimate farm system we will never have a championship caliber team again! Nobody wants our young guys so we can’t make trades! Name the last international player we signed that has impacted the team other than Ohtani who thank God picked us! Only 50% of our early first round picks have panned out! Trout, Ward, Detmers, Neto! Thaiss, Adell, Bachman and Jordan Adams not so much! Watching the Dodgers pick way after the Angels yet have a steady flow of major league prospects every year makes it even more frustrating! We are horrible Internationally and when U have a top 10 pick every year because your record is bad even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes!
Because of what happened to O’Hoppe, the Angels are probably going to say goodbye to Ohtani!
I see what you did there.
This kind of crap is becoming all too normal with the Angels. Let’s bring Bachman up now so we can get his Tommy John out of the way while he’s still young.
He can’t get anyone out at AA. Which means the Angels should put him in the pen. He’ll fit right in.
i like al conin
I liked this but to be fair the bullpen is 7th in the AL in ERA. But I too am concerned. Although there’s time for improvements, promotions and acquisitions. Ben Joyce will be up at some point
To be fair, the Angels pen has blown 7 or 8 games, and there is nothing fair about bullpen ERA. Case in point, Wantz ERA is zero, and has allowed 6 of 8 inherited runners to score.
Just because runs are listed as unearned, doesn’t mean they are.
@Halo11Fan same thing with the Mets bullpen. In particular, Drew Smith and Steven Nogosek. They always blow games or make them interesting, yet their ERA’s are low
You can really only know if you watch the games.
There is a stat that I’m getting into called WPA. It seems to create a fair picture. The Angels are 25th.
@Halo11Fan as you predicted, Wantz blew last nights game vs the As, and as I predicted, Drew Smith blew the game vs the Giants for the Mets
Wrong LFG, but Halo11 and u would pin that loss on Wantz for his 1 run blown save. If u want to place blame, blame Suarez and his 7 runs allowed if anything. But I’ll go ahead and put that loss once again on Nevin, in not using 1 of our best 3 relievers in the 9th or 10. Not all of them pitched the day before.
I wonder who Ohtani will be playing for next year.
Dodgers with a player opt out after year two. No drama, tour or bidding war.
Never, it won’t happen. The Dodgers won’t spend that kind of money on a free agent or it already would’ve happened.
It shows you how much you know and troll. Almost all of the baseball minds and media, have the Dodgers as favorites to land Ohtani if he departs the Angels.
Dodgers didn’t spend money LAST offseason so they could reset the penalty for NEXT offseason – They’ll definitely be in the mix UNLESS someone works out a trade contingent on an extension.
And most of the sources are tealeaf readings translated and then interpreted by journalists who have little actual knowledge of Japanese culture and the way they convey messages. I don’t have direct experience with Japanese itself, but being a native speaker of another Asian language, being forced to learn a related but not-mutually-intelligible Asian language, and then learning English and finally French, there are cues and interpretative assumptions that simply are misunderstood or outright assumed between all of them. Why would Japanese be any different. A slightly less on-point but illustrative example would be how “bless” (as in “bless you” or “bless her heart” or “you are blessed”) is used in the South as sometimes pejorative or sarcastically and sometimes genuinely and sometimes ambiguous on purpose. and it’s these sayings that frequently trip up even translators, never mind outright new language learners. I mean, even native speakers obviously misunderstand each other, never mind something that requires translation in the literal sense and cultural understanding that also needs to be translated in the correct context. There’s a reason why the first wave of agents seeking to take on Japanese players are all third culture kids. If the UN could not find a real time translator that in the moment can do a better job than come up with “We will bury you” as if it was intended literally, well, the Athletic or ESPN certainly doesn’t have the budget of the UN.
I know a lot of journalists, I went to school with some of them, and even the most brilliant ones make honest mistakes by imposing their default understanding as the universal understanding of a turn of phrase. The real answer is that we don’t know, nobody knows if he had made up his mind, possibly not even his agent or family, and he’s entitled to not having to make up his mind, full stop. His record at least should grant him that benefit of the doubt.
Baseball would like to apply its logic and come up with the Dodgers but baseball, especially MLB, is falling into the same trap – assuming that their assumptions are universal and their reasoning the one that makes the most sense. In fact, it’s just guessing and wishful thinking with a dash of hot-take creation rolled into one. The Dodgers may be positioning themselves in the best way they can imagine to land Ohtani, but does that make them the favorites? Any answer that isn’t “I don’t know” is pretty dishonest or presumptive to say the least.
@28rings – The Dodgers DID NOT reset their payroll. They spent a small amount of money in the off-season (Rojas, Peralta to name two), extended a couple of their own players (Gonsolin) and with Bauer’s contract are still in the luxury tax Bu around $10M.
If they sign Ohtani, they’ll be farther in the hole next season.
Plugnplay – That means nothing as every year the Dodgers or Yankees are front runners for the top free agents.
Jeff Passan of ESPN said the teams involved are Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, Giants and Mariners (not in that order).
The Dodgers did still stay a tic over the tax line. But in “no way in hell” will that stop them from being major players on Ohtani. Oh and Yes! The front runners if he leaves the Angels.
Dodgers payroll is $227.1 Million..
the 2023 luxury tax threshold is $233 million..
the line went up from 230 million in 2022 to 230 million this year – they are a tick UNDER
@28ringsnm — No. That site is missing numbers. The total payroll is at ~$234.5M while the luxury tax threshold is $233M
However the following year (2024), their guaranteed salaries are ~$109M, pre-arbitration.
Your Yankees for 2024 are at ~$189M, pre-arb.
Dodgers or Mariners. He’s got a west coast preference.
Little Stevie Janowsky
He has a west coast preference? Lol why are you lying to yourself
when he signed with the Angels he said he did not want to sign with an East Coast team because he wanted a shorter flight back and forth to home in Japan.
Until the Yankees make their offer. My dark horse team here is Houston. Just a gut thing.
Houston? The organization that did nothing in the moment to suspend a player who racially mocked another Japanese player for his eyes and then followed it up with a derisive, racially insensitive remark? And all on the game’s biggest stage, the World Series?
neuro – what are you talking about and what does it have to do with where Ohtani might land?
@prov356 – The commenter above me, miltpappas, said his dark horse team was Houston.
yeah, I get that. I don’t know of the racist component of your comment.
In the 2017 WS, Yuli Gurriel hit a home run against Yu Darvish. After rounding the bases and getting back to his dugout, Gurriel sat down, made slanted eyes with his hands and then, as deciphered from the tv cameras in him, mouthed a racial epithet in Spanish that translates to “little Chinese boy.” —— https://tinyurl.com/GurrielmocksDarvish
Gurriel did this despite having played in Japan for a year in which his host team graciously accommodated him when he was having trouble adjusting and assimilating to a different culture.
The Houston Astros did nothing to discipline him except go along with a suspension that would start the next season, AFTER he was done playing the World Series.
So, I don’t see how Ohtani can go to Houston when there are better situations available,
Houston had a player make a racist gesture about an opposing Japanese player during the 2017 World Series and didn’t discipline him during the series for it. They let it slide.
Then you would be wildly wrong and should never trust your gut. Alvarez is going to need regular DH days because of his body already breaking down at 25, so there is next to no chance they bring in an expensive player to block the path to Alvarez getting starts without having to play the field. Add in the amount of expensive contracts as well as aging players, and there is no chance Ohtani goes there.
neuro – who was the player and what was the gesture?
The point is… no one really knows where he might go. All we can do is guess.
But yet people still “guess” as if they are authorities on the subject.
first day on the internet?
I’d say the Dodgers are the heavy favorite. They have the money, especially after letting so many free agents walk over the past couple seasons. They are still one of the better teams in baseball and should only get better again going forward due to their stacked farm system. They should be a contender for many years to come, which would appeal to Ohtani’s desire to win. They are also only “across town” from the Angels, meaning Ohtani wouldn’t have to relocate to a new city.
I don’t see the Mariners ponying up over $500 million for him. The Giants can’t be counted out, because like the Dodgers they have the money to get it done, but their team is just not very good and it could be a few years until they are truly competitive again. Which leaves the final real candidate (in my opinion), the Padres. They’d almost certainly have to choose between Ohtani or Soto, because it’s just not realistic to sign both with all the money on the books already. The Padres are built to win now and apparently have unlimited money these days, so I could realistically see them landing Ohtani too.
Mariners or Padres. (Mariners have tons of money , didn’t spend in free agency, and made the most profit of any franchise last season.) I think they’re gearing up to woo him.
Don’t sleep on the Giants. They have a ton of money and didn’t acquire anyone in free agency either.
The Mariners were the most profitable team in baseball last year, making $83.6M, they have a very low payroll, expiring contracts each of the next few years (Teo, Wong, and Pollack in 2023; Geno in 2025, and Crawford in 2026), along with a deep farm system that is only getting deeper, great player analysis, and he has a deep respect/connection with Ichiro. Add that to the fact they finished 2nd to the Angels last time and Dipoto loves Ohtani and there’s little to no chance he doesn’t end up in Seattle if they want him.
The names you list is a lazy list of big market teams with no consideration for roster construction. The Dodgers are less likely to throw around big money. The Mariners did just give Julio one of the most lucrative contracts in baseball history, while the Dodgers haven’t given a big deal do anyone since Betts. (Freeman was actually pretty small by modern contract standards. The Padres have far too many big payroll guys on their team and need to focus this offseason in extending Soto, but they are about the only dark horse from your list.
Giants are unlikely for a myriad of reasons, the least of which is they couldn’t find $400M for local product Judge, so I doubt they can push together $500M for Shohei. Yankees are on the East Coast, so they’re out. Same with the Mets. Rangers are nearly as far away from Japan as the East Coast and I’m not sure they have the farm system or the winning environment he’ll demand. The Cubs have Suzuki, which he said is a detractor because he doesn’t want to go to a team with an established Japanese player. Add into that the fact that Chicago is about as East as the Rangers.
The real list is….
A dark horse possibility…
And a long way down the list…
I can’t see a scenario where the rest of the league isn’t eliminated for various reasons, but I do believe he will obscure his justifications and do things in a polite and respectful way.
I mean who knew he we pick the Angels just because his favorite Manga about a two-way baseball player had a main character that went to the U.S. and played in L.A.
I doubt he’ll make such a silly decision next time with experience and maturity on his side.
let me guess, you are a… Mariners fan?
I didn’t realize MLB teams opened their books – could you post the link to where you saw they made 83.6 MM in profit?
Mlb posted a report showing most valuable teams and most profitable in 2023. Was posted on yahoo sports March 23rd.
Thanks – figured it was out there somewhere since he picked such a specific #
“Giants are unlikely for a myriad of reasons, the least of which is they couldn’t find $400M for local product Judge, so I doubt they can push together $500M for Shohei. Yankees are on the East Coast, so they’re out. Same with the Mets. Rangers are nearly as far away from Japan as the East Coast and I’m not sure they have the farm system or the winning environment he’ll demand. The Cubs have Suzuki, which he said is a detractor because he doesn’t want to go to a team with an established Japanese player. Add into that the fact that Chicago is about as East as the Rangers.”
The Giants and Padres both offered Judge $400 million and in the case of the Padres it was $420 million. Not only do the Giants have more than enough resources to sign Ohtani. They have 3 things in their favorite, #1 A very strong Asian community, #2 still on the West Coast where he prefers and #3 a rabid fan base where he would be worshiped as a god.
“The Giants can’t be counted out, because like the Dodgers they have the money to get it done”
But you have San Diego #2 on your list, why? They’ve leveraged their future with recent contracts and are definitely a win now team. They cant afford a 500M price tag either.
San Francisco (huge Asian community) or the Mariners.
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In no particular order, my guesses are Angels, Dodgers, Padres or Giants.
C Yards Jeff
Ohtani could very well stay with the Angels -IF- they make it to the playoffs and have a fairly decent run. (With a handshake hush-hush agreement that Perry has to go & Shohei has to sign-off on new GM & Moreno has to keep adding payroll & run all free agent signings by Shohei first.) (In other words Shohei as shadow or de-facto GM).
the Dodgers…. but I am hoping the Yankees trade for him to replace Hicks in the OF & Montas in the rotation at the same time and the Yankees win the World Series and I can FINALLY change my username to “29 rings” and he loves playing here and decides the extra time on the flight to and from Japan isn’t as bad as he thought it would be and signs an extension…. yes, I realize this is not probable but I’ll steal the Mets Mantra and say “Ya Gotta Believe”
Hate to burst your bubble, but you will be stuck on 28 rings for quite awhile.
13 years and counting so far
Meanwhile, Brandon Marsh is currently leading the NL in OPS.
With a .500 BABIP. He’ll come back down, and O’Hoppe will return. Not making any analysis of this trade at this juncture. Long term they’re both good young talents.
I think that trade was the epitome of a win-win deal.
Can’t predict injuries. O’Hoppe was doing great before the injury. Win-win trade
Awww c’mon… It’s been hard enough for the Phils to draft MLB talent and even harder for them to become serious MLB players.
Almost everyone who leaves their system, I follow and root for. O’Hoppe was slayin’ it. Now I’ll root for a solid recovery and no setbacks…..
Brandon Marsh has been nice.
O’Hoppe first injured his shoulder during the series at Boston. Were any scans done at that point? Considering how the injury occurred (also on a swing) and level of pain he appeared to show, I was a bit surprised he didn’t sit out games after.
That’s what I was thinking as well. I wonder if this could have been avoided if he had sat out a few games after the original injury
Brutal….just sad how this goes for the team. Hope he heals quickly and comes back strong.
O’Hoppe has around 275 million reasons to test free agency if Anaheim doesn’t give him a new contract.
deGrom Texas Ranger
Eh… a 275 MM deal based on 21 games???
Ace is a buffoon who either comments just for reactions or kust to troll. Yesterday he was commenting that Kris Bryant “would b cut so he could test free agency”. Clearly clueless to how MLB contracts work or just trying to make blatantly asinine false comments.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Yup-duly noted. Time for troll boy to go bye bye
Clearly, this is the only trope you know. How many millions of reasons (dollars) a team or player has to do one thing or another. All neural highways in your cortex lead to the same cluster. It is a hard wiring problem to overcome. But it can be done if you work at it.
Ohtani has around 3/4 of a billion reasons to test the free agent market if he doesn’t reach a deal with Anaheim before then.
Dang!!! I needed to Mute this guy a week ago! Utterly useless and asinine.
ooohhh – now I get your new schtick. Your post on Kris Bryant thread now makes total sense. You’re gonna just pick random players and go ” player xx has 250 million reasons to test free agency”… kind of annoying but not your best work.. go back to the ” at least they will get rid of vottos sorry ass” on reds threads. I was going to say I wish I could follow you to see what new stupid gimmick you’re gonna try next but I realized you post on most every thread so I’ll find it
don’t know why that quadruple posted – not intentional
If the Angels are out of it at the deadline and trade Ohtani, should they target catching, shortstop, pitching or all 3?
The Angels issue is the pen but the ownership and GM are too stupid to notice. If they don’t notice there is a problem, there is nothing they can do to fix it.
Halo – I know you don’t think Minasian is a good GM, but we have been through several GMs since Moreno bought the team and the result is always the same: we need pitching. At some point you have to look at the common denominator which is Moreno over the last 20 years.
We lost a lot of quality pitchers in a very short amount of time, and it took years to recover… but I think we have.
What the Angels don’t address, and haven’t addressed is the bullpen. I don’t know who is the blame, but someone is.
Blame anyone you feel is responsible, but you can’t win with a minor league bullpen.
Just to add, all off season long I said the Angels needed a 4th outfielder who could play first. The Angels don’t have a first baseman. Whose fault is that? It’s Minasian’s fault
Some of the issues this team is having were so damn obvious.
Moreno has allowed his GMs to sign pitchers to exactly one multi-year deal since 2015. That was Anderson’s 3 year deal. If there are issues with the pitching, Moreno is the reason. Top players don’t want to sign short term deals.
That’s exactly my point, Baseballist – Minasian (or any previous Angels GM) does nothing in a vacuum. Moreno is the decision maker. Our one year pitcher deals is a band-aid approach. A no hitter doesn’t excite lazy fans. Home runs do. Moreno knows that, which explains, Pujols, Hamilton, Rendon, Upton, and all of the other horrible batter contracts over his tenure. The big bats put fans in seats and make Moreno money regardless of their results.
I think a lot of it is Moreno’s fault. Dipoto was told Moreno was negotiating with Hamilton. Dipoto said it was a mistake that he might not make it in a different environment.
Dipoto was dumbfounded when Morneo signed him.
But I doubt Moreno had anything to do with the bullpen signings. I don’t think Moreno cares about these small ticket items.
You mean the top 10 bullpen for the Angels?
The Angels needed a top SS and more depth at catcher. That would have given them multiple good options to back up 1B and 3B when Walsh and Rendon inevitably hit the IL. More depth at catcher would have helped them when it was obvious Stassi would not be playing much if at all this season.
Both of those failures are ownership. Moreno got close to the CBT and instead of going all in to put a winning team on the field he did just enough to stay under the CBT and backed off. His GM added all the short term pieces Moreno would allow him to, but was held back by an owner more interested in appearances than winning.
If I were an Angels fan I would be praying, lighting a candle, sacrificing a fatted calf, making a voodoo doll, or whatever it takes to ensure that Moreno sells the team asap.
There is nothing wrong with the Angels bullpen.
Halo11, the Angels had a primary 1b in Walsh. He was actually cleared to go this spring. Then out of no where came this new thing. What can u do? Also adding Drury as a 2b, LF, and a 1b platoon. Throw in Urshella and I can see why they felt good at 1b. The only problem is that, they played Lamb there a lot, because of his hot spring. That was the 1b problem. Oh, and the slow start for Drury doesn’t help.
Walsh was coming off a serious injury and always has had difficulties with LH pitchers.
The Angels also needed a 4th outfielder/1Bman. They still do.
That position fill was a no brainer. Instead, Perry brought in two players who can’t play first. It was a huge mistake. And it’s not like I haven’t been talking about this for months.
Not exactly true. The mainreason Dipoto and Scioscia didn’t get along was because of Dipoto’s signings. Scioscia liked playing small ball in the American League. It was more of a National League style at the time.
Dipoto signed people that didn;t fit the bill, Pujols, Hamilton, etc. It was Dipoto’s signing, but has tried to say otherwise after they failed. Ultimately Dipoto moved on and Scioscia was left without the tools, which made him an effective.manager.
DiPoto didn’t sign Pujols or Hamilton. Those were 100% Moreno signings. I doubt DiPoto was even involved in the negotiations at all.
Once again Halo11, and again if u need.. lol… Walsh was cleared to play in ST from his injury, and expected to play majority of the time, and yes, starting opening day.
He had this new flukey headache thing, which no one EXCEPT you predicted. Lmfao!
There is no debate because you don’t add any data.
Wantz has six appearances. The Angels are 2 and 4.
The first game he allowed zero runs in a 6-0 win.
The second game he kept the Angels in a game they lost 4-3 He pitched well.
The third game, he comes in with a 6-4 lead, a runner at first, makes an error. Gets pummeled, and two runs scored.
The forth game, he comes in with the Angels trailing, keeps them in the game. No runs allowed. Angels lose 2-1.
The fifth game, comes in with 4-0 lead and the bases loaded, walks a batter, allows a sacrifice fly and the lead is cut to 4-2
The six game, comes in with the bases loaded. Two batters later, all three runs score and a 4-3 lead turns into a 2 run deficit.
He gave ERA and Holds as proof the Angels pen is doing well. That’s laughable.
What stats are most important. The two blown saves and zero holds? The ERA of zero. Or the WPA of a tick under zero?
Everyone with a clue knows which stat is the most telling.
Your right again I guess, a RP coming in should NEVER give up a run when he comes in with the bases loaded and nobody out, NEVER! If he does, it’s all his fault. Now that’s true comedy…lol
That’s 5 of his 8 runners inherited. 4 would be average I’d guess in those 2 spots, since u could score 2 each time without the benefit of a hit. So rip and shred on Wentz for 1 run. He’s terrible…lol
Hyberbole much. Making an excuse about soft contact while ignoring 2 ball that were almost home runs is something someone does when they don’t have a point. You could cherry pick anything if you do stuff like that.
The fact is 6 runners out of 8 scored, in not debatable. Wantz walked Volpe with the bases loaded for God’s sake. And there was one out in KC and NY. I don’t expect 5 of 6 runs to score. When you come into a game with one out, a runner on first, I don’t expect Biggio to almost hit a HR and Kiermeier to triple. Do you?
But keep making excuses.
I just looked it up. The pen was completely responsible for six loses. There was one loss against Washington where the pen allowed 2 runs in five innings, and the Moore game where he hit Rizzo. I don’t blame the pen. But the other were clear.
When Loup hits the first two batters of an inning, and when a ball is almost hit off the wall on a catchers interference, I blame the RP. Earned runs or not.
@Google Dipoto had nothing to do with those signings, those were Moreno’s big shiny toys that he had to have.
I’m not making excuses for the pen at all. They’ve been very mediocre to me so far, if you take all stats combined early on.
I have the timely hitting and backend of the rotation as more of disappointments early on, that’s leading to the mediocre start. It’s all good thou, I think all can be fixed soon, and in house.
Wow SOB, smooch Dipoto’s back side much. He’s the GM, it’s just as much on him, if not more than anyone. Bottom line, he’s not all that. Hints why he got fired, and Yes, he did basically got fired, when an owner picks a manager over you, he pretty much said, don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out. No worries there for the Angels.
Unless you are convinced O’Hoppe is done for permanently, then catching is not a need for a team already out of it. If you are trading Ohtani, you need to get at least one starter and a shortstop. St. Louis and Arizona match up best in that case in my opinion.
The cardinals do match up well, but dang are they playing bad, they might be out of it too.
The Cardinals will be fine. It’s only April. They are too talented to stay out of it all year.
Cardinals are roadkill.
Call animal control and move on.
They have O’Hoppe and Quero, catching wouldn’t be the most pressing concern. If they’re out of it and looking for a quick rebuild around Trout, they need SP, SS, and probably 2B
True that, no need for catching by chance if there out of it this year. The outside chance they do trade Ohtani, a couple SP prospects would be be major need, if there’s no Ohtani. You could throw in a MI. Liking Neto right now for SS going forward.
Angels just don’t catch any breaks when it comes to key injuries.
Paranormal activity continues.
Welcome to the Angels kid…
Losing O’Hoppe, while a huge bummer, should not make or break a team’s season. It shows how thin we are still. We have a top five payroll spent on a couple of stars who are surrounded by a mediocre team. I believe Moreno hung onto the team to squeeze the last dollar he can out of Ohtani. Once Ohtani signs elsewhere, Moreno will sell the team for real.
Last night’s loss to the Royals shows how bad this team really is. I did an unscientific analysis of our schedule this year and came up with a season record of 78-84. The fact that we are early in the season is an empty consolation because the first game is as important as the last game. Moreno has never been focused on building a winning team.
I don’t think this is a mediocre team. The Angels pen has cost the 7 or 8 games. We are having a completely different conversation if this was the 2002 pen.
I love out top four starters. I think Neto makes a huge difference. The only thing that’s killing me is first base and the pen. There are other issues, but I think they will work themselves out.
That’s a mediocre team, boss. Sorry.
And if the bullpen didn’t suck, they would be much better than a 500 team. Did you miss my point?
They’re 10-11. Now 11-11.
I didn’t miss anything.
That’s why they play nine innings, and ass-chapped guys like you say “If… If… If…”
It’s all there, crystal clear, black and white, in the standings. You get nothing! You LOSE! Good day sir!
Yes you missed the problem with this team is the pen.
Add 7 wins subtract 7 loses. It’s a good team with a bad pen. Even when I spell it out you missed it.
While I think our starters are decent, they are still not going very deep into games, which opens the door for the bad bullpen to blow it. Results are what matter and our record as a team is steeped in mediocrity. As I’ve used before as an example, if a pitcher has a good spin rate but he can’t get batters out, then spin rate becomes an irrelevant stat. Last night’s loss was one of many team losses this year. And Nevin continues to give the same lame answers that we’ve been hearing for years: the ole “things just didn’t go our way tonight” approach.
Spin rate and velocity are the two reasons Tommy John surgery is now a seemingly weekly occurrence. Pitching used to be about location and changing speeds.
Rick Sutcliffe used to say “he doesn’t need to throw a better pitch. He needs to throw the same pitch in a better location.”
I think HaloFan is a tad sensitive about his mediocre team. Understandably so.
I just think you’re not very bright. You still didn’t understand what I wrote.
Again Bronx, you are not very bright. If they are a good team, one of the easiest ting to address is the pen.
Keep providing more evidence you know nothing about baseball. You are doing a great job.
I can read MLB Standings, AngelCakes.
And I can do math. 11-11.
And I’m sure that is all your mind is capable of comprehending. You’re a troll, and you are not very bright. It’s very common..
And the amp goes to 11 as well.
Quoting stats is not trolling.
.500 is mediocre.
I get it. What a brilliant mind you have Mr. Bronx Troll.
Seattle Dodgers are mediocre, Pittsburg good. And just last week, Houston was bad. Got it. Man… you’re a genius.
Taylor Ward was a catcher. Put Jo in the outfield and move Taylor. Be funny to see Suzuki back behind the plate.
Adell never has been and probably won’t ever be the answer to fix this team. He may be htting bombs in AAA but he’s a one trick pony. His strike out rate is still a huge problem…and he seems to have no sense of defense.
I’m more open minded with Adell than you are. Two more home runs yesterday. His issue is he can’t control the strike zone. All the other pieces are there.
Yep. Other than hitting, running and fielding, ol’ Jojo Odell has this game KNOCKED AND LOCKED.
Who knows? Maybe Manfred will allow lousy outfielders to call for a ‘fair catch’ like in football!
All the best, Angel Cakes!
I wouldn’t say you’re more open minded. I’d say you’re more optimistic on Adell. The only thing he is doing well is hitting bombs. He usually does in AAA and then flops when he gets called up. He’s still young but he’s not that young anymore. He should have this figured out better by now. Maybe he’s a late blooming star but that’s not likely. He has had several big league chances and they all end up the same way with no meaningful improvement at the highest level.
He’s walking more. Hitting 50 points higher in OBP and batting average. I understand he’s playing good defense.
He’s only slightly cut his strikeout rate. So there is only one thing he’s not doing significantly better.
Adell’s problem has been any successes he has at AAA never seem to translate to MLB. I’m sure we’ll get another look at him and maybe he will finally get it.
Adell hit 239 at AAA last year. It’s hard to call that a success.
You can absolutely have an opinion on Adell and it may very well be accurate. But there have been plenty of players a lot less talented than Adell and older than Adell who have figured it out.
Let me name three… Brandon Marsh, Taylor Ward, Hunter Renfroe.
Yeah I agree with you. I hope he is just a late bloomer. I just checked and his current strike out rate is back over 30 at 30.5%. His walk rate is 13.7%. He has to figure out his plate discipline. and for what it’s worth, his current fielding is at 88.9%.
I didn’t call .239 BA a success. I said any successes that he has don’t translate to MLB. His current BA is .288 and on the decline as the season progresses. That’s still good but it’s now below his MiLB career BA of .289.
If that K rate doesn’t get down to the mid 20s. then my opinion will align more closely to yours.
I care more about his strikeouts than Home Runs. For me… that’s a first.
Actually we thought we were deeper at catcher. No one expected Stassi to be out as long as he’s going to be.
How about tyler oneill and Andrew kizner. Give you a hitter for the lineup and a catcher with decent experience. Probably wouldn’t cost a whole lot in return.
Saw someone say something about relief pitching too, cards could throw in genesis cabrera and hicks who both have good stuff but might need a change of scenery
Little Stevie Janowsky
The three guys you mentioned outside of Tyler have negative trade value. Why would anyone want them
For Whom? Who do you expect back in return?
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Well that stinks. O’Hoppe for Marsh was a solid win/win trade for both teams. Hopefully they are able to fix the problem (and it’s his non-throwing arm) and he can be back to 100% for next season.
O’Hoppe has played in around 20 career games. It’s too early to be calling him a win in anything. That being said, he does look like he has the real potential to be a very good big league catcher.
Injury or not, thou a little set back. I still have O’Hoppe’s career ceiling higher than Marshes. Since it’s the non throwing side, he should be fine.
Great start for Marsh thou, maybe he can be an all around above average CF. We’ll see.
The problem with the O’Hoppe injury that no one is talking about, is that it takes their biggest trade piece off the table.
As a trade piece, Quero is likely off the table.
I dunno if it does for Quero for a couple reasons. Quero is not going to be ready this year. 2nd, I wouldn’t write off O’Hoppe with having any problems with this injury.
Hate to see this for the kid, but he should remain rookie eligible for next year.
What a bummer!!! Love what I’ve seen of this kid so far. Hope you are back soon and even better.
Not good news. And Max Stassi is still AWOL.
I would have to think Jorge Alfaro makes the most sense, if they can figure out what the Red Sox want for him.
The Red Sox only have two catchers on the 40 man, and Alfaro is the only reasonable call-up option in the organization at the moment, so I doubt they’d let him go before his June 1 opt out for anything that would feasibly be offered
It does raise the question about his forward mobility clause if that is still in effect. If so, he has the right to opt out if the Angels offer a Major League deal.
You just listed the reason the Red Sox would listen. Alfaro can walk on June 1st so they get nothing if they wait.
They’d get nothing for trading him either lol. No team is going to give up anything noteworthy for Alfaro at this point. Whatever scrub Boston could get back would not be worth weakening their catcher depth like that. Angels should definitely take a look when Alfaro’s opt out comes, but unless Boston gets some ridiculous offer he’s not going anywhere before that
Dumpster Divin Theo
O Hoppe on pop
Angels losing. Again.
Yeah this hurts a tic, but it’s not close to the end all for this team.
You guys really want to know what’s leading to this mediocre start? It’s simple, it’s ALL 4 parts of the game. Simple pitch then don’t hit and vise versa. Then throw in some errors and a few blown saves, and they all contributed.
Look on the bright side, this team is finding every way to lose early on and is still around .500
You have to think they’ll start playing better sooner or later, and they’ll be right where they need to be.
The pitching staff is 12th in the AL in strikeouts so they aren’t missing many bats. Anderson has regressed severely in the early going, Suarez has looked bad so far too. Trying to play bullpen by committee never really works either.
Defensively starting the season without an actual SS on the roster was a bad decision and Nevin’s man crush on Rengifo is another problem
For the most part Rsox, but I don’t think K’s are the end all for starters. I prefer the soft contact rate stat more. There’s something to be said about Early outs and going deeper in games. Thus keeping the pen fresh.
I don’t know about Suarez, but Anderson should be fine, soft contact is what Anderson is all about. He should get back to that. But for sure, you can’t have 2 guys pitching poorly thru the rotation. The only saving grace early on for the Angels is, that they have 3 long relief guys that are pitching good in Moore, Berria, and Davidson.
Unfortunately when you are not a good defensive team the strikeouts matter more than you think. If the ball is in play and your fielders struggle with it, it doesn’t matter how hard or how soft the ball was hit
Each is there own, but if u can’t have both, k’s and soft contact, I’ll take the latter, for a starter that is. I guess if u had both qualities, you probably are a staff Ace.
put it in the books
Torn labrum is gonna cost him more than 4-6 months
It’s all good, he can take his time and make it back in 10 months by next spring training.
It’s still early enough of course and the Angels are off to a good start.
No shortage of good defensive catchers.
Just balance the offence out in the lineup. I noticed all last year it was like a bad mix tape in highschool when you put all the top songs up first.
Back to back to back jacks!
Angels should acquire the Royals’ Salvatore Perez. The Royals are going nowhere. Maybe the worst team in baseball. He would be a great fit for the Angels, a solid veteran. Wonder what KC’s asking price would be.
You don’t think his shelf life is a little long? Mad respect for Sal, but…
That name is already taken
Exactly, Chapman is wasting his talents there too. Not sure who we would have to give up my Jo Adell would be a start the way he has started off the season in AAA.
That wouldn’t be a bad idea Red. I know he’s getting paid a lot for a few more years, so the return shouldn’t be off the charts.
The only reason why this might work is, knock on wood! The Angels might have a DH spot available next year 🙁
Kind of a bummer.
I wonder if the Angels even talk to Ohtani’s reps or if it’s all been shut off during the season.
Don’t read about torn labrums like u used2, pitchers especially, was kiss of death 4awhile 4ever bein the same pitcher u were, now it’s all TJ injuries, but@same time velo league wide has nvr been so high, just like torn Achilles, used2 nvr hear bout that injury n now it’s everywhere guys shredding em left n right, fortunately it’s his non throwing shoulder, good luck w/surgery n rehab, nxt man up
That’s okay. The Angels will have a new hot shot catching prospect (or two) to go along with several new blue chip pitchers very soon……… after they trade Ohtani,
I have to disagree on Ohtani, I believe there’s a super low chance Ohtani gets traded. A couple big injuries aside, this team won’t be out of the wild card race. With the added playoff teams, you could be a few games under .500 and still be in it come late July.
The Angels/Moreno aren’t trading Ohtani unless they receive an offer they can’t refuse (i.e., someone severely overpays) which won’t happen. The Angels will be hovering around .500 and that will be enough of an excuse to hold onto Ohtani.
Besides, I’m not so convinced that he’s an absolute goner at the end of the season. I still think the Angels will be in the mix to resign him, unless they completely miss the postseason…
If it were up to me, I’d ask Ohtani to extend before the trade deadline. If he refuses, which is more than likely IMHO, then you get what you can for him. Maybe the Dodgers or Yanks will overpay for a rental in hopes that will give them a leg up on signing him.
Sealbeach – from my understanding, Ohtani’s agent has refused to engage in any extension talks until the offseason. If the Angels make him an ultimatum during the season, then not only will it be a distraction but it will likely backfire—Ohtani is in the driver seat. And if they trade him for a few top prospects, then you pretty much have lost any hope of resigning him.
They should’ve already done this in the off-season. You need to have enough insight to determine whether extending him can be done. If he wants $450M, and you think that’s okay, sign the check. If he wants $600M, and you aren’t going to go past $400M, then you have to make the best long-term move.
Dumpster Divin Theo
Top o’ the order to ya! Bummer he was good. Who they gonna find to replace him
And he was doing so well. I just watched him against the Yankees. Too bad.
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Oy, brutal. I hate it for the kid. Get well soon.
How did that happen? The only thing that I can speculate is free weights…
Motor City Beach Bum
Time to trade for Eric Haase or Jake Rogers 😉
Quero could be an option in a couple months. The dude can hit, with good speed for a catcher to. He’s killing it at AA early on. But He’s still pretty raw behind the plate thou.
They’ll have to get him on the fast track, learning him up back behind the dish thou.