The Padres reinstated right-hander Joe Musgrove from the 15-day injured list, as Musgrove is slated to make his season debut in a start against the Diamondbacks tonight. In the corresponding move, San Diego optioned righty Reiss Knehr to Triple-A.
Musgrove fractured the big toe on his left foot after an accident in the weight room in late February, and then suffered a minor shoulder injury during a rehab start that further delayed his return. However, Musgrove only ended up missing roughly an extra week, and he now looks ready to go in his customary spot atop San Diego’s rotation.
Naturally, getting Musgrove back only further strengthens a Padres team that also got Fernando Tatis Jr. back the lineup after his PED suspension expired earlier this week. Between these absences and several other injuries, it perhaps isn’t surprising that the Padres have gotten off a lackluster start, with only a 10-12 record heading into today’s action.
Musgrove will rejoin the rotation just as the Padres are about to enter a relatively light portion of their schedule, as from April 24 to May 29, the Padres have seven off-days. As a result, San Diego will move to a five-man rotation of Musgrove, Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, Seth Lugo, and Michael Wacha, with Nick Martinez joining Ryan Weathers as bullpen reinforcement. Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune writes that the Padres’ plan is to try and keep Martinez somewhat stretched out in long relief roles, so make it easier for Martinez to step back into the rotation in the event of an injury or a rest day for one of the starters (possibly Lugo, who is still being re-acclimated to starting work after pitching as a reliever for the last few years). Weathers could also be a multi-inning weapon out of the pen.
It’s probably unlikely that the projected starting five will last the rest of the season without another IL stint, so Martinez or Weathers are surely going to get more starts before 2023 is over. At least in the short term, however, their usage in the bullpen will greatly help a relief corps that has been shorthanded by injuries.
Hmmm..so who goes to the pen? Martinez?
It literally says Martinez will join Weathers in the pen.
It didn’t when I posted that..it was a “more to come” story at the time..
Nope, Weathers
Weathers he likes it or not?
Dbacks will beat the snot out of Musgrove.
This aged well.
What? What aged well?
I don’t know what you’re talking about.
When is their offense going to show up?
Soon
Kim, Nola, Soto, Machado, Cronenworth, Grisham, Odor hitting a combined 0.002
When are you going to quit whining like a woeful washerwoman?
They could have six 1975-era Nolan Ryans with 1.00 ERAs and still have lost a bunch of games. No offense, no wins.
I predict a big day for Matt Carpenter today. Aloha.
Both Martinez and Weathers look better than Wacha so far. We’ll see.
And Snell – trade him for a lottery pick and shed some salary
For the Good of the Team, it should be Nick. They need longer Relief. Lot of hitters are at the WEIGHT WATCHERS LINE, meaning they aren’t hitting their weight. FATTEN UP!!
Welcome back, Java Joe!!!
Stud P who really took his gm 2new level late last yr n into playoffs, bulldog mentality n a workhorse
Weathers has pitched circles around the dumpster fires Snell and Wacha, but he’s the one sent to the bullpen, upon Musgrove’s return
I’d say unbelievable, but it’s quite believable with the hapless Padres.
They spend big money to compete with LA and SF, and then hamstring themselves with dumb decisions like this, SMH
I’d say this type of decision is not limited to just the Padres. A lot of money invested in a veteran player tends give a long leash regardless of the logo on the cap (or the sport for that matter).
Correct. To me, that’s the real problem with the big contracts. Guys in suits make mistakes. Then they refuse to admit said mistakes, or let the baseball guy in the dugout correct them.
@Greg Weathers will have more opportunities to start. The team is back to a 5 man rotation through May ( many off days ). Martinez also to bullpen, and as bad as pen has been, let’s hope these two guys help. And sure Weathers has been okay this year, pitching with some luck, but he’s been really bad for 2 years ( even in minors), especially compared to Wacha and Snell, so I’m glad you’re not Melvin!
@Brew’88
I’m not sure what your looking at.
The BABIP against Weathers is .286. The league median is .295. “Lucky” would be something around .200.
His expected, weighted on-base (which eliminates luck) is a nice .326.
“…really bad for 2 years” in the minors?
First off, 2021 was a good year by PCL standards.
Second, he’s only 23.
He was pitching at AAA in the bat-happy PCL at ages of 21 and 22. He’s been ahead of schedule and it’s paying off this year. Why send him to the bullpen? SD has won 3 of his 4 starts, losing once by just 2-0.
“…compared to Wacha and Snell”??
Aside from last year, Wacha has been terrible since way back in 2018. Snell on the other hand… SD has lost all 4 games he’s started… and lost badly.
Both guys have xWOBA of .395. Snell’s FIP is over 6.00, Wacha is at 4.39.
Those numbers tell me they have earned their terrible ratios and results.
I’m not even a Padres fan. I just like seeing breakout years from young players. and I can’t stand seeing them stifled by old-thinking like Bob Melvin’s
Tell me what was Weathers ERA last year in minors? You would redesignate Wacha to bullpen after just 2 bad starts? Snell had the highest K rate of any starter 2nd half of last year, third best ERA, you’d send him to pen in April?
Is there any more obvious way to say you don’t understand the advanced stats than throwing them around to try to justify your point when all you have is a tiny sample size?
There are signs in his peripherals that his ERA this season is not a good indication of his level of performance. His FIP is 3.87, which points to future regression. It says he has been lucky how good the defense has been behind him. His A SO% is 40% below league average. He’s not missing bats. That also points to regression in his ERA.
Last season Weathers 6.73 ERA was bad even by PCL standards. Team average was a 5.53 ERA and league wide was 5.39.
You didnt read my post. Half the parks in the PCL are like Coors field and whatever AZ is calling their stadium these days.. Last year he was also just 22.
Yes I would send Wacha to the bullpen.
“…just 2 bad starts”? He has had 3 bad starts of 4.
Your argument for Snell is last year, last year, last year.
This is this year. It’s quite possible Wacha and Snell are not adjusting well to the rule changes.
Pitch clock is affecting veterans… and the no-shift rule is affecting ground ball pitchers… who knows?
Whatever it is, Weathers is pitching better than both of them. Its silly to send him, out of the 3.
You didnt read the post either.
FIP pf 3.87…. so what pray-tell, are Wacha and Snell’s FIP’s?
6.00 and 4.39… seems to me Weathers has the lowest, you’d know that if you read what i actually wrote.
As far as last year in the PCL… again he was 22.
If you are quoting any of those stats in this small of a sample size, then you don’t understand the stats at all.
It doesn’t matter what anyone else’s FIP is. Further showing you don’t understand those stats. I will try to explain.
Weathers FIP is much higher than his ERA which means its likely his ERA will regress towards his FIP.
Calm down Greg. Small sample size
“It doesn’t matter what anyone else’s FIP is.”
So his FIP of 3.87 means regresssion..
…but 2 teammates who are starting over him with higher FIP’s doesnt indicate a regression from already terrible numbers?
Got it.
Stupid us as stupid says. You were discussing others. I was discussing Weathers. Guess that went right over your head.
WEATHERS is set for regression. Just like he did in his rookie season. He is not missing bats as evidenced by his far below league average singing strike rate and hus far below league average SO rate. His FIP is more than a full point higher than his ERA which indicates his ERA will go up.
Don’t try to change the subject. The subject is Weathers.
NOW let’s discuss Wacha and WACHA only.
Wacha’s FIP is 4.36 while his ERA is 7.08. That indicates that he too will have a regression to the mean with his ERA moving lower.
Wacha’s SO % is only 1.8% below league average. His swinging strike rate is also right at league average.
Wacha’s BAbip against is .394. Nearly 100 points higher than average. That also points to his ERA getting much better.
If you understood the stats, you would know that. You don’t.
I actually DO understand the stats. I was half-asleep when I made that post last night, sorry.
Regression was technically the wrong word.
Revert was probably more correct. My basic point is that if all 3 pitchers revert to what their FIP indicates… Snell will still be bad… Weathers will fall off some… but not enough to be worse than Wacha, who will still be allowing nearly 1 run a game more.
Hope that clarifies things, honestly I’m tired of discussing it.
How about we put a pin in it and see who’s correct in a month?
He was right in his terms. Regardless of the direction of movement, its called regression to the mean.
How long before Tatis fails a 2nd PED test?
staying more positive, hopefully never
Matt Carpenter… 5 RBI!
Guy’s a stud. Good for him resurrecting his career. No one’s worked harder.
Wish the Yanks had kept him…nut with studs like Donaldson, Hicks, Franchy & Cordero, no room on the roster.
):>o
Franchy is Cordero
Yes and no. The Yankees have TWO Corderos. Maybe one is a Cordera. Or a Cordova. I’ll double check.
You are correct. The Yankees have two Corderos, but the other one is a pitcher. I was thinking of Colhoun. None of those guys remotely approached Carpenter’s value last year. Nor do they now.