The Red Sox announced that infielder Yu Chang has been placed on the 10-day injured list due to a left hamate fracture. Infielder Enmanuel Valdéz was recalled in a corresponding move. Christopher Smith of MassLive previously reported the components of the move. Chang will have surgery and should be out roughly six weeks, per Rob Bradford of WEEI.
Chang, 27, has been on quite a rollercoaster over the past year and a bit. He started out 2022 with the Guardians, the only organization he had ever played for up until that point. But he had exhausted his option years without truly establishing himself in the big leagues. He still had appeal to other clubs based on his past prospect status and defensive versatility, eventually getting opportunities from the Pirates, Rays and Red Sox, failing to hold a roster spot for very long at any stop. He finished the year with a combined .208/.289/.315 batting line and 78 wRC+ between the four clubs.
The Sox non-tendered Chang but later re-signed him to a major league deal in February to help the middle infield mix that had just lost Trevor Story to an internal brace procedure. Chang then went to represent Chinese Taipei in the World Baseball Classic and fared well, hitting .438 and earning the Most Valuable Player award for Pool A. He’s since played 17 games for the Sox, hitting three home runs but walking in just 2.1% of his plate appearances. His current batting line is .136/.174/.341, translating to a wRC+ of 30.
Though Chang was still struggling offensively, his upcoming absence will be notable for the club. He departed last night’s game with wrist pain and today’s news is not welcome. As mentioned up top, Chang will require surgery and an absence of roughly six weeks. For however long he’s out, the Sox will be further depleted in a middle infield that has taken many hits this year. As mentioned, Story has been out all year due to his procedure and it isn’t clear when he’ll be back. Adalberto Mondesí is still working his way back from last year’s torn ACL and also has little clarity on his return. Both players are on the 60-day injured list and aren’t eligible to return until late May. Valdéz will now step up to support the regular starting duo of Enrique Hernández and Christian Arroyo. Valdéz got to make a single-game debut in the majors last week when Chang was on the paternity list.
No. Me Chang.
Valdez suxx
Remove – I hate to say it, but you’re right. Three errors in 20 innings is disgraceful.
I knew that’s what it was as soon as he did it. It sucks, he doesn’t hit much, but his defense is amazing, and the occasional home run is nice
Dreaded broken hamate, alota guys R nvr the same after that injury, zaps there ability 2really drive the ball, good luck w/rehab Yu
Awful timing, have to feel for the guy. Getting a real opportunity to lock the job down and really solidifying the lineup following the Duvall injury. He will have Mondesi and possibly Story to contend with by the time he’s ready to come back.
The Sox have given Christian Arroyo 89.2 innings at shortstop since claiming him in 2020, but it looks like he’s the only option on the roster behind Kike.
do n’t forget Dalbec rhswanzy
A bad situation just got worse.
Time to call José Iglesias
Well, Jose is now a padre
signed with the Padres today
Ouch! Terrible K/W, but three HRs in the last 8 games.
Joe – Quick, how many Grand Slams is Duran on pace for?? Heheheheh!
His Clan must be upset.
Yu Funny. 🙂
The curse of Xander…..
Karma for the way Bloom treated Xander
Curse of Chaim, has the reverse midas touch, he should do the opposite of whatever his inclination is, at this point couldn’t hurt
Damn, another player lost for 6 weeks.
Will they call up Method Man?
Yu chang ain’t nothing to f with
Time to bring Iglesias back to Boston. Hernandez finally starting to hit after moving off of SS is not a coincidence and i honestly don’t think Arroyo will stay healthy playing SS everyday.
Bring back Iglesias or bring up David Hamilton
Rsox – Agree with all of that.
Padres just signed him
When will they call up David Hamilton? He’s been tearing the cover off the ball at Worcester.
Hamiltons not called up due to Defense. He’s not really a SS, even debatable if he’ll make it as 2B.
Scouting Report:
soxprospects.com/players/hamilton-david.htm
When a guy that has a wRC+ of 30 getting hurt is notable, your team is in trouble.
Pads Fan, figures. Theres more to baseball than WRC.
If you are a pitcher, then yes. If you are a hitter, it pretty much explains it all. If you prefer OPS+, then he has a 37 OPS+. Two stats that show he is terrible as a hitter this season. But wait! There’s more. He has a 73 career OPS+. He not only is terrible this season, he has always been terrible.
Why in the world would you even TRY to defend a guy that bad?
He’s a Defensive Specialist, who is the fourth middle infielder to be hurt. Of course thats “notable” regardless of his OPS+.
Relax. Take a deep breath. Calm down.
Oh, the Red Sox are in trouble but not because of the wRC+ of a guy who has had 44 at bats.
“trouble”.
Winning Record while playing the toughest schedule in baseball so far. Look at the positives.
Last place. They haven’t played a rough schedule. They have played most of their games against Detroit, Pittsburgh, LAA, and Baltimore. Only 4 games against a team that was in the playoffs last season.
Relax. Calm down. Take a deep breath.
He has been a starter in 11 of the team’s last 12 games.
Yeah. He has 44 at bats.
“He has been a starter in 11 of the team’s last 12 games.”
1) Trevor Story had surgery.
2) Adalberto Mondesí is taking longer than expected to recover from surgery.
3) Adam Duvall got hurt in CF, causing Kike to move there until Duran surprised everyone and took off.
4) And recently, Christian Arroyo is out of the lineup with hamstring issue.
So of course Yu Chang is started 11 of 12, and of course him breaking his hamate is “notable”.
If your team has to have a guy like him start 11 games in a SEASON let alone 11 out of 12, what is notable is the lack of ability of your GM to draft, develop, trade for, or sign good talent. THAT is the problem.
Mondesi has been a career IL resident. That he is hurt is NOT a surprise to anyone other than you and Bloom. In his 7 year career he has spent 481 games on the IL and he didn’t hit the IL in the shortened 2020 season.
Duvall never should have been in CF for a team that wanted to contend. A 34 year old with a career 100 OPS+ and a 1.2 WAR average is not the guy a good team would run out there. The last time he was even major league average overall was 2016 and he was a LF then. And Bloom expected him to be the STARTER in CF?
Duran has 40 PA so far in his MLB career, is striking out 30% of the time, and has a completely unsustainable .542 BABIP. That you seem to think he will continue to perform well is cute.
Kike should have never been the starter at SS for a team that wanted to contend. A 96 career OPS+ and 1.7 WAR average is not the guy you want as your starting SS.
Arroyo should have never been a starter on a team that wanted to contend. As a backup he has been a league average bat with no home on defense.
The problem for the Red Sox is that Chang HAD to start 11 of 12 games. That you don’t get that and are trying to defend Chang even being on the roster says all that needs to be said about your comments. Find a sport you understand.
Pads fan–Even though I agree with most of your post I do not see the need to ridicule/criticize other people’s views. that happens far too much on here IMO. Fine to disagree with opinions but let’s be classy about it. We are aLL baseball fans !
You are right. The last sentence wasn’t necessary.
Red Sox have a better record than your pads. Worry about your own team. $270M payroll and cant break .500 in a weak division. Shoot, the Diamondbacks have a better record, and youre worrying about the Red Sox. Lol.
The thread is about the Red Sox. Why would I comment about another team on a thread about the Red Sox? That would be incredibly stupid.
Only someone who could not refute anything that was said to him would even try to bring up another team when the thread was about the Red ox.
Youre not a “pads fans” at all. I checked pads comment sections you dont comment at all. Youre just a second account troll.
So you are saying that because the name on my account is Pads Fans that I can’t make comments on other articles on this website? WTF is wrong with you?
Not much news about the Padres on here lately. Last one was about a reliever being called up to be the 27th man 5 days ago and I did comment. Padres are not running out Yu Change level players to be a starter in 11 of 12 games.
Instead of trying to call me out for knowing more about the Red Sox than you do, try sticking to things you understand. .
Your an idiot and you know it. Roaming other teams comment sections swearing at people?
Youre not a padsfan as I said, youre a troll account. I went to the last 5 pads comments and NOTHING from you. Youre a 2nd or 3rd account of a loser, who wished Bogaerts had stayed. F off.
Valdez has a career .500average in the bigs! What were they waiting for! (Lock him up)
team – Somewhere the stat geeks are going “B-b-b-ut his numbers project out to zero homeruns”.
It’s interesting how many guys whine when the Red Sox pick up spare parts along the way. Sure looks like it’s times like this where they’re fortunate to have these guys in reserve.
They still haven’t even called up Niko Goodrum!
Not to mention Chang himself was one of those “spare parts” when he was signed. You wind up needed those type of guys more often than not to cover things during a 162-game season.
Too bad.. dude was playing some serious defense ( at least that’s what I heard last night) occasionally a little pop… so kike back at ss?? Duran did have a nice grab last night.. I know he’s a awful cf from many posts but my eyes didn’t lie yesterday…
Simmons is still a stud defensively, wonder if he is playing anywhere at the moment…
Who cares? The Sox suck thanks to Chaim. Thank God for the B’s and C’s to distract us. Never thought the baseball season would be all but over before May 1, but this team is awful and pitching staff is one of worst in baseball.
Do you even follow the Red Sox? They have a winning record while playing the toughest schedule in baseball.
espn.com/mlb/stats/rpi
Click on SOS thats ‘Strength of Schedule’, When you Average Opponent has a .584 winning percentage and you outscore them by 12 runs, your team does not “suck”.
Okay now you can go back to listening to hate-filled Talk Radio. They’ll give you ammo for your next post.
RSmith, I love your enthusiasm for the team, I really do, and wish I could share in it. However, you are missing the other side of the coin. The Sox are a .500 club. If they have a winning record against the best teams, then they have a losing record against the worst teams.
The biggest issue this team will face will not be the ability of the starters, they’re actually a little better than expected. The issue will be the mounting injuries, which are already starting to mound up.
That’s not hate filled, man. It’s just reality. I hope you are right in the end, but the reality is that I don’t believe you will be.
1) Theyre not a .500 team, theyre a .520 team, and a 1/2 game out of playoffs. atm. All the while playing a horrendous schedule.
2) I never said “they have a winning record against the best teams” Theyre 10-12 against teams over .500.
3) They’ve only played 3 games against a team with a losing record (Tigers) and they swept them.
4) Now’s the time you talk about their worst facet of the game , in this case its “starting pitching”. Youre the one “missing the other side of the coin” if all you ever want to do is look at only the worst part of a team.
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Question their starting pitching if you want, but no way is a .520 team, 1/2 game out of the playoffs “awful” and “suck”. Its just someone who isnt paying attention to the team and rehashing things they’ve been saying for 8 months.
The Sox have only faced one team that was in the playoffs last season. One. SOS at the end of April is a joke.
Are all the playoff teams from last year going to make the playoffs this year? Id much rather have faced the Phillies this April than Orioles 6 times. Going by last years numbers instead of this years, when you already have 750 games played is a joke.
Ummm, the season is 162 games long. Last season just ONE team that was in front after 26 games was there when the season ended.
2 that were in front after 26 games ended up 14 games or more out and two others ended up 30 and 33 games out at season’s end.
You really don’t understand baseball, do you?
One of those 2 teams that led after 26 games and finished 30+ out was the Angels. Lack of depth kills. The Angels had to play guys that were of the same under replacement level quality as Yu Chang last season and that hot start meant nothing in the end.
Who cares? This team is dreadful thanks to Chaim. Thanks God for B’s and C’s to distract us from watching horrific baseball. Never thought baseball season would be all but over before May 1st.
Why do Jewish players never have ham ate problems?
Wouldn’t be kosher
Bryan Reynolds and Rafael Devers put up OPS+ numbers during 2019 to 2022 of:
2019 – 130 Reynolds 132 Devers
2020 – 71 Reynolds 107 Devers
2021 – 145 Reynolds 134 Devers
2022 – 128 Reynolds 141 Devers
2023 so far – 136 Reynolds 142 Devers
Reynolds has an AAV for the next 8 years of $13.34MM
Devers has an AAV for the next 10 years of $29.15MM
Both contracts end the same year. Guess which one will be the great deal and which one will be a huge albatross dwarfing the Panda, Hanley and Crawford mistakes?
I couldn’t believe Pittsburgh did such a great job negotiating. Some of you may remember the name of the GM that got this deal…. Ben Cherington. I guess one learns from their mistakes. That means in 10 years maybe Bloom will do smart deals!!! hahaha
KD – You really think Bloom will be in a ML front office 10 years from now?
I don’t. Part of the huge difference between him and Theo is that Theo was surrounded by a lot of experienced successful mentors, whereas Bloom is not. Henry is a brilliant businessman, but he’s incapable of mentoring an operations guy like Bloom. Same with Kennedy, he cannot mentor Bloom.
FPG – He got the job in Boston so he must have connections. Maybe he can spread his BS in a small market and get a job. If not, he can always sell copies of his “How to fix a farm system” manual. I just hope they put it in the fiction section!!hahaha
I think Bloom got mentored in TB and learned nothing so I’m not sure mentoring could turn him around.
FYI… 13-13 after 26 games and ironically 5-3 in series. They are 2-5 against GOOD teams, 8-5 vs AVERAGE teams and 3-3 vs BAD teams. They need to improve vs both the GOOD and the BAD. Their next 4 series are against GOOD teams so this will be a litmus test. It was this type of stretch that buried them last year so they need to step up and not get clobbered by MIL, TOR, PHI and ATL. The projection is 3-9 which would take them to 16-22 going into their next four series which are easier but still challenging (STL, SEA, SD and LAA on the west coast).
I like that guys like Duran are showing signs of being a key keeper going forward. Even his defense is improving. Casas hitting .139 after 72 at bats is still a small sample size so he might turn it around but if history means anything most Red Sox prospects either come up hot Devers, Bogey etc or very cold like Dalbec, Duran the first time etc. I still say let him regroup and give Dalbec his last shot before a DFA.
Should be interesting to see if pretenders like Kiki, McGuire, Arroyo will be able to handle the pitching in the next four series. Also, will Yoshida hit well against good pitchers? He’s pullled his average up to where it was predicted to be around .280. That’s a good sign. I hope Sale swings back to a good game next game and lessen the swings in success as he moves forward trying to regain his control. As you mentioned somewhere, he needs to miss bats so stop throwing things in the middle of the plate and the hot zones of the batters.
The good news is CLE pitching is struggling a bit so maybe they can exceed the 1-2 prediction for the upcoming series. Going forward 1-2, 1-2 1-2 and 0-2 vs ATL. Flipping one or two of the series would be huge.
KD – I honestly think John Henry’s thought process was “Let’s operate like the Rays, whichever of their front office guys is available I’ll take. Bloom reminds me of Theo.”.
Yeah their record right now is reflective of who they are, an average team.
Duran has been fantastic! Sending him down to work on his game did wonders for him, it’s time to do the same with Casas.
Also Wong needs to go, he hits like Sandy Leon but isn’t nearly as good defensively.
“They need to step up and not get clobbered by MIL, TOR, PHI, and ATL
They already took 2 out of 3 from Milwaukee.
FPG – I’m sure you remember me declaring the Mookie/Price deal a bust because of the time of the year Bloom made the deal and the poor prospects selected or offered by Freidman.
Well it’s 3 years later and Downs who everyone raved about except me is DFA’d. Wong, who I pointed out was at least the 5th if not the 6th catcher on the LAD depth chart is just as big a bust as Downs but he came with much less hype. Verdugo was supposed to be better than Benny and a potential all-star. I argued neither was true and so far no all-star teams and Benny is still a better defender, hitter and base runner and if Verdugo wasn’t under team control, he wouldn’t be worth the money he’s going to want. Seeing Devers get what he got can only light a fire under Verdugo to ask for way too much when he’s ready for FA. As I pointed out in 2020, he wasn’t a guy the team should keep after his cheap years are over and he certainly wasn’t even close to replacing Mookie which some insane fans argued.
Lets just hope this Bloom/Cora disaster is almost over. Living in Texas I see what the Rangers did and I can’t believe how they have made all the right moves while Boston has made all the wrong moves. How great would it be if we had a baseball savvy ex=pitcher as the GM and Bochy as the manager? How great would it be if we resigned Bogey, added Semien, deGrom and kept Eovaldi instead of adding Kiki, Arroyo, Kluber and Paxton.
Woulda Coulda Shoulda!!! Thanks to Bloom that summarizes the last 3 years.
KD17–yeah thank god that Bloom held out for Jeter Downs instead of that useless Gratesol b um
Randy – At the time I questioned why January when there was no urgency from other teams. I figured with LAD, SD and ATL all positioned to go for the NL pennant a July deal would have gotten offers like Anderson from ATL, Paddack from SD and May or Gonsolin from LAD. Instead, they gave us their 4th OF who was not a long term keeper, their 6th catcher and a mistake they made with Cincy when they acquired Downs and he wasn’t close to the potential they thought he had. His lack of hand/eye coordination offset his big bat speed and great launch angle. Someone forgot to tell Downs that launch angle doesn’t matter if you can’t make contact.
Randy – Also, as it turns out in retrospect, if they waited to July then COVID hits, Price opts out putting them under the CAP so the penalties reset and signing Mookie can be justified from a financial perspective. The racism issue wouldn’t have gone away so Mookie was still not coming back to Boston but at least they would have gotten more and maybe won more than 40% of their games, even without Sale. That would have meant no Mayer but so far Mayer hasn’t helped the MLB team, he’s just a potential for the future.
Bloom’s mistakes have had such a domino effect on the ball club!!
well Bloom is certainly counting on Mayer to take over SS in the next couple years. how else could you explain him letting XB walk and replacing him with the likes of Change, Kike, and Dalbec?.
Randy = It’s great that they got such a talented player but I think many people over estimate how fast a high school player will develop into a starting SS in the MLB. By 2025 he should be a regular and maybe by 2026 he might approach the level of Bogey but that’s a four year HOLE he didn’t account for. That’s why I suggested a 3 year $100MM contract for Bogey with an option for 3 more at $75MM. Making the midpoint a mutual option gives both sides the chance to walk away depending on Bogey’s performance and Mayer’s advancement. Bogey would have done that deal because the $33MM for 3 years would have shown him the respect he deserved for playing so many years with a home town discount.
Bloom lacks creativity.
KD – That is so cool you’re in Texas! Have you been to the Globe in Arlington? It is my favorite road ballpark, I’ll be returning there this September and then next year for the All-Star Game.
KD – Awesome post! Your last sentence is so very true, I say it all the time how bad decisions tend to have a domino effect.
Look no further than Bloom’s decision to let Xander leave. The domino effect:
1) $140M in payroll used up on an injured and inferior Story
2) Forced to trade Taylor who has a 7.0 K/BB ratio and 0.80 WHIP
3) Forced to play Kiké at SS and Arroyo at 2B, severely weakening both positions
4) Red Sox have the 3rd-worst WAR in MLB for 2B
5) Forced to play Dalbec at SS who immediately made a costly error
What’s the next domino to fall?
KD – Brilliant post!! Xander most definitely would have taken that 6-year $175M extension before the 2022 season. The only thing, it would have to be an opt-out after Year 3 instead of an option. There is no way he’d have accepted only 3 years guaranteed. Still I like your thinking!!!
Fever Pitch Guy
Also Wong needs to go, he hits like Sandy Leon but isn’t nearly as good defensively.
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C.Wong (C) – Red Sox 2023
19G; 137 Inn. +4Rdrs, +0.6 dWAR, 5sb/5cs – 50%; $ Min. AAV
D.Jansen (C) – Toronto 2023
15G; 114 Inn. +3Rdrs, +0.3 dWAR, 4sb/2cs – 33%; $ 3.5 m AAV
S.Perez (C) – Kansas 2023
18G; 155 Inn. +1Rdrs, +0.3 dWAR, 7sb/1cs – 13%; $20.5 m AAV, .681 Ops
C.Vazquez (C) – Minnesota 2023
16G; 138.2 Inn. +1Rdrs, +0.1dWAR, 5sb/2cs – 29%; $10 m AAV, .659 Ops
It the best protective catchers in American League now
You talk that he not so is good in a defensive, LOL
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R.McGuire (C) – Red Sox 2023
16G; 91.0 Inn. -2Rdrs, -0.2dWAR, 16sb/1cs – 6%; $1.23 m AAV, .811 Ops
That is why Wong basic catcher Red Sox but not McGuire.
Look with what set of Catchers Red Sox won World Series in 2018:
C.Vazquez – 80G, 251 AB, .207 AVG, .540 Ops
S.Leon – 89G, 265 AB, .177 AVG, .511 Ops
B.Swihart – 82G, 192 AB, .229 AVG, .613 Ops
KD17
How great would it be if we resigned Bogey, added Semien, deGrom and kept Eovaldi instead of adding Kiki, Arroyo, Kluber and Paxton.
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Bogey – $25 m AAV, Semien – $25 m AAV, deGrom – $37 m AAV, Eovaldi – $17 m AAV – $104 m for 4 players.
We need repair of bullpen, closer is needed, outfielders is needed.
To interrupt the rate of Texas in 185 million for another glass 35 – summer pitcher on 5y’s, thank you, I will refuse ( we already have Sale yet on 2 seasons of 25.6 mil. AAV ).
To pay 17 million in a year of pitcher(Eovaldi), that in 3th matches with Kansas and Cincinnati rakes out 11 runs in 16 inn., not, thank you.
I agree only with Bogearts, Kluber and Paxton.
Bogie – It’s only money and Boston makes 1;/3 a billion per year. Why not treat the fans and only make 1/4 of a billion?
I love great pitching. It’s a shame what Cora did to Sale. When he got to Boston I couldn’t wait for his day in the rotation. In Texas, deGrom is a phenom. Sure he’s had some injuries but he’s still the best in the game. What a huge pleasure it is to see such awesomeness in one human being. His pitching is nearly perfect but you pointed out a valid downside, he has been injured recently. I’d still pay the money especially when you are clearing huge profits annually. I loved watching Pedro and I think deGrom has more talent than Pedro.
In the end, pick and choose the ones you would have preferred. The entire point is that what coulda been and shoulda been simply isn’t. The money is there but the GM is missing. That needs to be fixed to get things back on track.
KD17
If this command was a legal pretender and Sale would be that pitcher that we got used to see, then agree, de Grom (1) and Sale (2) plus Houck (3), Whitlock (4) Pivetta (5) Bello (5) is a legal starting rotation .
We need the real progress from such pitchers as Whitlock, Houck and Bello in 2023 that on 2024 we could have a cheap legal stable SP.
Our bullpen lined up as in 2023 and further:
Jansen – 2023/2024 ( $16 mil. AAV )
Schreiber – to 2027 ( 1 Arb. 2024 )
C.Martin – 2023/2024 ( $6.75 mil. AAV )
J.Rodriguez LH – 2023/2024 ( $2 mil. AAV, club option 2024 – $4.25 mil. ) – 15day IL
Bleier LH – 2023/2024 ( $3 mil. AAV, club option 2024 – $3.75 mil. )
Winckowski – to 2030 ( Pre – arb )
Crawford – to 2029 ( Pre – arb )
Kelly – to 2030 ( Pre – arb ) – 60 Day IL
We have in triple ААА of Walter, Murphy, Mata.
If Murphy doesn’t make progress in a starting rotation in triple ААА I would transfer him in bullpen is gave to us necessity left-handed person with that for us deficit.
Also there is Drohan that prevails in double АА in this season.
Brasier $2 mil., Kluber $10 mil., Paxton $4 mil., Ort will go away after this year and someone from them can be DFA in this season.
A SP in 2024 would look very attractively depending on progress:
1.Sale – $25.6 AAV ( to 2025, club option 2025 )
2.Whitlock – $4.69 AAV ( to 2027, club option 2027 – 2028 )
3.Houck – $ Pre – arb ( to 2028 )
4.Bello – $ Pre – arb ( to 2030 )
5.Pivetta – $ 3 Arb
Depth:
Crawford – $ Pre – arb
Walter – 2023 ETA Triple AAA
Mata – 2023 ETA Triple AAA
Murphy – 2023 ETA Triple AAA
Drohan – 2023 ETA Double AA
KD17
As far as development of our prospects in 2023, I would like to see such composition in 2024 with possible additions at the market depending on necessities.
2024 Red Sox
1.Verdugo (LHB) RF – $12 – 13 mil. AAV to 2030
2.Devers (LHB) 3B – $ 29.15 mil. AAV to 2034
3.Story SS – $ 23.33 mil. AAV to 2028
4.Yoshida (LHB) DH – $ 18 mil. AAV to 2028
5.Mondesi (S-H) 2B – sign 1 Year bridge to Yorke ( ETA 2024 )
6.Casas (LHB) 1B – Pre-arb to 2030
7.Duran (LHB) LF – Pre-arb to 2029
8.Rafaela CF – Pre-arb to 2030
9.Wong C – Pre-arb to 2030
Bench:
McGuire (LHB) C – 2 Arb; Hamilton (LHB) SS/2B – Pre-arb; Refsnyder OF – 3 Arb; Valdez (LHB) LF/DH – Pre-arb
I would offer Verdugo transaction now on 5-6 Y’s in a range 12-13 million for a year.
J.Turner DH / 1B – ( Тернер has a player on 2024, if he will conduct
a good season 2023 that can to give up her, if a season will be middle Justin rather all is used by an option variant on $10.85 mil. )
Dalbec 1B/3B – 1 Arb. ( As I liked the bat of Bobby however 35%+ SO in Triple AAA look badly, probably he will lose a place upon termination of season 2023 )
Abreu OF (LHB) – Pre-arb ( If Wilyer conducts a good season for Worcester, I think that he will be a trade candidate, he doesn’t have options and to hold 5th OF on a bench, I’m a find no the sense)
Arroyo 2B – 3 Arb. ( If Cristian will be mediocre in this season that on 2024 he will be rather all of not tender )
Maybe some transactions will happen in the period of signing 2023 after Match of All Stars depending on that where a command and list will be on 40-men will change in 2023, accordingly will suffer changes and list on 2024.
With this list higher and with all transactions we would have about 190 million on a season 2024 and it would give 40+ million for addition to the list to the first tax treshold.
I would add SP number 1 or number 2.
abogie-I stopped reading when you put Wong ahead of McGuire
Randy Red Sox –
C.Wong (C) – Red Sox 2023
19G; 137 Inn. +4Rdrs, +0.6 dWAR, 5sb/5cs – 50%; $ Min. AAV
D.Jansen (C) – Toronto 2023
15G; 114 Inn. +3Rdrs, +0.3 dWAR, 4sb/2cs – 33%; $ 3.5 m AAV
S.Perez (C) – Kansas 2023
18G; 155 Inn. +1Rdrs, +0.3 dWAR, 7sb/1cs – 13%; $20.5 m AAV, .681 Ops
C.Vazquez (C) – Minnesota 2023
16G; 138.2 Inn. +1Rdrs, +0.1dWAR, 5sb/2cs – 29%; $10 m AAV, .659 Ops
It the best protective catchers in American League now
R.McGuire (C) – Red Sox 2023
16G; 91.0 Inn. -2Rdrs, -0.2dWAR, 16sb/1cs – 6%; $1.23 m AAV, .811 Ops
That is why Wong basic catcher Red Sox but not McGuire.
bogie– well I guess if you are willing to go with a .150 hitter Wong it is. i never said Mcguire was great either
Randy Red Sox –
Look at statistics of Vazquez in 2014, 2016 to the year in an attack, I think that in that moment you too would like him to abort from composition.
C.Vazquez C Red Sox
2014 – 55G ; 175 AB; 42 H; 9 Double; 1HR; .240 AVG; .617 Ops
2016 – 57G; 172 AB; 39 H; 9 Double; Triple; 1HR; .227 AVG; .585 Ops
Wong can beat and he has speed ( not typical for catcher ), if he will beat .200 AVG and 600 Ops with defence of GG, I it will take in any day of week.
C.Wong C
Red Sox – 53G; 111AB; 22H; 8 Double; Triple; 1HR; .198 AVG; .595 Ops
44G; 306 Inn., +4 Rdrs; +0.7 dWAR; 23 SB/9 CS; 28%CS.
Worcester AAA – 131G; 522AB; 144H; 33 Double; 23HR; 14 SB; 4CS; .272 AVG; .784 Ops
I think that of Wong needs to be given more approaches as well as Casas in Major League then it will be possible to talk about his bat.
R.McGuire C
Red Sox – 52G; 139AB; 47H; 9 Double; Triple; 3HR; .339AVG; .844 Ops
48G; 320 Inn., -2 Rdrs; -0.1 dWAR; 23 SB/6 CS; 21% CS.
Look with what basic catcher Houston won World Series in a past season:
M.Maldonado C Houston 2022
113G; 344AB; 12 Double; 15 HR; .186AVG; .600 Ops
113G; 948.2 Inn., +2 Rdrs; +0.9 dWAR; 46SB/16CS; 26% CS.
I like the bat of McGuire, but defence of Wong better and this priority for catcher.
And Wong doesn’t beat .150 AVG, he beats .180 AVG and I think that his statistics will become better in Major League.
Randy Red Sox
Look at statistics of Vazquez in 2014, 2016 to the year in an attack, I think that in that moment you too would like him to abort from composition.
C.Vazquez C Red Sox
2014 – 55G ; 175 AB; 42 H; 9 Double; 1HR; .240 AVG; .617 Ops
2016 – 57G; 172 AB; 39 H; 9 Double; Triple; 1HR; .227 AVG; .585 Ops
Wong can beat and he has speed ( not typical for catcher ), if he will beat .200 AVG and 600 Ops with defence of GG, I it will take in any day of week.
C.Wong C
Red Sox – 53G; 111AB; 22H; 8 Double; Triple; 1HR; .198 AVG; .595 Ops
44G; 306 Inn., +4 Rdrs; +0.7 dWAR; 23 SB/9 CS; 28%CS.
Worcester AAA – 131G; 522AB; 144H; 33 Double; 23HR; 14 SB; 4CS; .272 AVG; .784 Ops
I think that of Wong needs to be given more approaches as well as Casas in Major League then it will be possible to talk about his bat.
R.McGuire C
Red Sox – 52G; 139AB; 47H; 9 Double; Triple; 3HR; .339AVG; .844 Ops
48G; 320 Inn., -2 Rdrs; -0.1 dWAR; 23 SB/6 CS; 21% CS.
Look with what basic catcher Houston won World Series in a past season:
M.Maldonado C Houston 2022
113G; 344AB; 12 Double; 15 HR; .186AVG; .600 Ops
113G; 948.2 Inn., +2 Rdrs; +0.9 dWAR; 46SB/16CS; 26% CS.
I like the bat of McGuire, but defence of Wong better and this priority for catcher.
And Wong doesn’t beat .150 AVG, he beats .180 AVG and I think that his statistics will become better in Major League.
Randy Red Sox –
I see that you have nothing to match against arguments.
Even in situations with players on a base Wong beats better:
Wong RISP 2023 – .286 AVG; 661 Ops
McGuire RISP 2023 – .267 AVG; .580 Ops
I undertook a small study and that noticed.When C.Wong starting catcher of Red Sox have a greater chance on victory.
C.Wong C 2023:
19G(16GS); W/L 9/7; 90 – 71 runs ( +19 D ); 137Inn; +5 Rdrs; +0.7 dWAR; 5SB/5CS – 50% CS.
In 4 defeats with Wong, Red Sox were near on a count.
With Wong, Red Sox didn’t skip more than 7 runs in 16 starting games.
R.McGuire C 2023:
17G(11GS); W/L 4/7; 58 – 72 runs ( -14 D ); 100Inn; -2 Rdrs; -0.2 dWAR; 18SB/1CS – 5% CS.
In one defeat with McGuire, Red Sox were near on a count.
With McGuire, Red Sox skipped 8+ of runs in 5 starting games from 11 starting games.
@bogie–I do not follow all those metrics you have posted. All I know is that neither of these catchers are good enough for a contending team. LAD fleeced Bloom on the Mookie trade as Wong was only their 3rd ranked C prospect. When he inevitably gets waived like Downs did maybe everyone will realize that.. They are low cost guys at a premium position like so many others in our lineup. That is why the Sox are a .500 team. And they are only a .500 team because of the new balanced schedule.
Randy Red Sox-
Problem in that you don’t watch after games and after players, blind fury on Bloom outshone eyes to you.
You, as well as many other users on this board repeat one and too each time.
Downs was the over-estimated prospect of Dodgers, Wong is protective catcher higher than middle, with pop music and speed not typical for catcher.
Wong was drafted Dodgers in a 3th round therefore he was below on diagram depths what K.Ruiz and D.Cartaya.
I can argue that Wong will be finalist of Gold Glove in 2023.
You can screen this post and to save him.
In the future we will discuss who was from us wrong.
I can argue that Wong will do anymore XBH than Vazquez or McGuire in this season .
Yesterday Wong did 3 hits and stole a base.
Question regarding WEEI website:
Why is it theres an article about the Red Sox front and center when the Red Sox lose, but when they win = Nothing.
They’re the ‘flagship’ of the Red Sox, yet they don’t follow the team when they win. Shouldn’t there be an article every day. Thats strange.
Celts and bruins take precedence right now genius
But only when Red Sox win. Yet they still have space for ‘Orioles coach gets mad at Cora’, ‘Is Chris Sale tipping his pitches’, ‘Chris Sale need to figure things out fast’ and a ‘Grayson Rodriguez’ story. Got it. I am a genius compared to what youre saying.
Article regarding Red Sox made the WEEI page today (Thur), after a loss. I guess Celts and Bruins can be put on the backburner for that news.
Tues after Loss: 3 articles
Wed after Win: 0 articles
Thur after Loss: 1 article (so far)
Thats totally normal for a ‘Flagship’ of a team, sure it is.
Celts didn’t play yesterday and bruins lost genius
The day before the Celtics lost and the Bruins didnt play. Do you think at all before you post?
Your just a hater weei doesn’t suck up to John Henry you hate everyone that disagrees with you and all former players