The Mets announced that right-hander Carlos Carrasco suffered a fracture of his right fifth finger. They estimate his recovery timeline is four to six weeks. He will be placed on the 15-day injured list with righty Sam Coonrod recalled in a corresponding move. Given that there’s less than a month left in the regular season and the Mets are out of contention, his season is quite likely over. Manager Buck Showalter told reporters, including Abbey Mastracco of the New York Daily News, that Carrasco broke his finger when a fifty-pound dumbbell fell on it. He already had a pin inserted and should have a normal winter. Anthony DiComo of MLB.com reported Carrasco’s impending trip to the IL prior to the official announcement.
It’s been a frustrating season for both Carrasco and the Mets. The club picked up a $14MM option for his services this year instead of a $3MM option, a decision that seemed reasonable at the time. He made 29 starts last year with a 3.97 earned run average, making it a fairly defensible decision to trigger that net $11MM decision.
Unfortunately, he missed over a month of the season due to right elbow inflammation and hasn’t been his best when on the hill. Through 20 starts, he’s logged 90 innings with a 6.80 ERA. Last year’s strikeout and walk rates of 23.6% and 6.4% both got worse this year, going to 15.8% and 9.1%, respectively.
The club ran up the highest payroll in history this year but didn’t get the results they hoped for, with the rotation a key problem. Both Justin Verlander and José Quintana started the season on the injured list and Carrasco joined them shortly thereafter. Max Scherzer also pitched through some minor ailments and then got a 10-game sticky stuff suspension. The club fell out of contention, traded away both Scherzer and Verlander prior to the deadline and then put Carrasco on waivers after it. No one claimed Carrasco and he stuck with the Mets, who were planning to move him to the bullpen to finish the season, but he’ll now most likely finish the season on the injured list instead.
Carrasco’s contract expires at season’s end, which will send him to free agency. It will be the first trip to the open market for the veteran, as he twice signed extensions with Cleveland before coming to the Mets in the same trade as Francisco Lindor. It’s obviously not the ideal platform season for him to take into free agency, but he should still garner interest on some kind of bounceback deal based on his career track record. He has a 4.04 ERA in 1,538 innings dating back to his 2009 debut.
For the Mets, they will play out the string with a rotation of Quintana, Kodai Senga, Tylor Megill and David Peterson, with José Butto, Joey Lucchesi, Peyton Battenfield and Denyi Reyes options to jump in when a fifth starter is needed.
“Oh ok.”
-Everyone
How does a dumbbell spontaneously flip over with enough force to break a pinky after being set down…and what lifts was skinny armed Cookie doing with 50lb DB’s
“Carrasco, 36, was lifting weights before Sunday’s game against Seattle when he set down a 50-pound dumbbell and it flipped over, landing on his pinky, “Showalter said before New York played at Washington.
Ugly numbers heading into free agency for Carrasco.
Heard some talk on the FAN the other day that he might have to market himself as a reliever.
Ray wills sign him for cheap and he’ll be great.
Still has that respectable high k rate. A bad year could be aging or an anomaly. I would take a chance based on his k rate as he can still strike a ton of guys out.
Never mind, his k’s are down this year
That’s how the cookie crumbled.
“I want to play a game.” -Steve Cohen
Yikes
I guess this kills his CY Young hopes…
Who?
Just somebody who has 107 more wins and 1,573 more K’s than you do.
That was rough, bro. You almost made me lose my coffee with that one, lol.
I assume the “who?” was for—
righty Sam Coonrod recalled in a corresponding move
Well played, but how do you know that Seamus O’Meara is not a pseudonym for Nolan Ryan?
ChrisG
Yeah. Why people want to show off that they are ignorant of a player is a weird thing.
“Look at me! I’ve never heard of this guy”
Uhh…ok. Cool?
You can’t be serious.
Ignorant take is a bit much. I side with the players on the whole lockout or just issues in general as they are what the fans watch the game for. Definitely against the owners so don’t misconstrue what I said as just hating on the players. I was just calling out the whole “107 wins/1573 K’s more than you” comment.
Ya I don’t know how people wouldn’t know this guy.
However I can’t stand these cliched comments “oh he’s done more in his life than you blah blah”. The players don’t need you to defend them. They do no care about the fans, which was made very clear by the lockout when owners and players fought over the fans money and didn’t take us into consideration one bit.
BravosATL
Sigh. This tired ignorant take
1) You have NO IDEA if the fans were taken into consideration one bit or not (please don’t show your lack of reasoning ability by saying something like “they cancelled part of the season, they obviously didn’t’.
2) “fought over the fans money” – you might as well have said “fought over 7-11’s money” or whoever employs you. It’s no more the fans’ money once they voluntarily give it to MLB that it’s 7-11’s money once they give it to you. It’s an absolute win for the billionaire owners that unknowledgable fans equate the baseball players that we go out to see and who are just fighting for their fair share with the billionaire owners that we don’t really [care] about. .Why the hell so many people think the players should give up potentially billions of dollars to the billionaire owners “for the fans” is absurd.
Sad that’s how his career ends.
You don’t know
How this very often goes around here:
1. Player has down year and commenters say their career is finished.
2. Player signs minor league contract and commenters mock team.
3. Player has bounceback season and makes all-star team
The recency bias is strong in these parts
It’s probably more a lack of baseball knowledge than the recency bias, though I love concept. Way too many posters (and writers) have trouble extrapolating modern day metrics, and rely on the numbers that they saw on the back of the old BB cards.
Good points, I’m thinking 80% what you said and 20% what I said
He had a nice career and made lots of money. Time to go fishing and enjoy life. No shame in admitting that you’re done.
No way he doesn’t at least come to ST with someone.
Ohtani not on the market as a pitcher; Urias situation is at least such that he isn’t signing a FA deal any time soon; Kershaw maybe finally retiring – FA pitching is thin after Snell, Nola and a couple more.
All teams will need at least 1 SP and there aren’t enough to go around.
The gamble will be to pick that 1 35ish bad year guy that pulls out one more good year.
Sign 5 and hope for best!
IMO, I like that for rebuilding teams, even if it sounds counterintuitive. Everyone has at 1-2 SPs, but if you signed 2-3 guys like Carrasco, you might win a few more game and provide better entertainment, and there is some likelihood that one of them could become a useful trade chip. Same with RPs.
Spendthrift signings + losing record = LOLmets.
Perfect
Terribly timing at the home stretch with the playoffs around the….. oh wait.. lol
How does a fifty-pound dumbbell fall on a persons finger?
You’d think anyone would notice that they’re holding a heavy dumbbell. Maybe someone was trying to sneak up on him and to steal his cookies, and poof! Drops the 50-pound dumbbell.
How does a fifty pound dumbbell fall on a persons finger? Considering he’s on the Mets, with good aim.
Um, with the Mets not making the playoffs, and now this injury, why say “4 to 6 weeks” instead of just saying “out for the season”?
Did you make it past the second sentence?:
“Given that there’s less than a month left in the regular season and the Mets are out of contention, his season is quite likely over.”
Since that’s the case, why bother with the 4-6 weeks, as stated in the headline. Did you not read the headline?
I love how @Bill M continues to make comments on my posts, but then blocks me from commenting back. He’s been doing this for awhile. No respect for a clown like that.
I say if you want to comment in opposition to someone’s posts all the time, at least have the testicular fortitude to let him respond directly back. It’s what men do. This cowardly thing of unblocking to make comments, then blocking again to keep from getting a response back is just sad and punkly.
@Bill M, Go back to your Mets failed exile like many of your Mets fan brethren until this latest hope of not finishing in last place. Just come back when Cohen spends another fortune on medicority during the offseason, and start squawking again when you think that the 2024 Mets are different than all of the previous 37 Mets teams.
@stymeedone
I imagine he chose to ignore that. He even ignored the statement he quoted because it ends with “…quite LIKELY over.”
Um, there ain’t no “likely” bout it. The season is done for him. In 4 weeks, the Mets won’t be playing a game unless they go on an historic run.
What are you talking about? I never blocked you. You’re delusional.
@Bill M
Yes, you did. This is the first post you have done in a long time where I’m able to respond. If this site allowed screen shots, I’d show all of your replies to my posts that were done before this one. The one above and all of the orher previous ones still disallows me to respond directly.
Now to the posts at hand, clearly no defense of the use of “4 to 6 weeks” instead of done for the season. If this were about a Braves, Orioles, Dodgers, Brewers, Phillies, Rays, Astros, etc. strongly positioned teams, then “4 to 6 weeks” would make sense. But for a team that has been done since May, it makes no sense with just a few weeks left in the season. Carrasco is about as done as the Mets are this year – both depending on a miracle at this point. But even if the Mets give hope of it, not likely that 4 zombie-like teams are going to all falter together in the closing weeks. Historic choke jobs happen to maybe one or two teams occassionally, but for 4 in one year? Carrasco played his last game in a Mets uniform, and the Mets will play their last game this season on October 1st.
Let’s say it’s on the low end and he could get cleared in a number of weeks that rounds up to 4. He could theoretically pitch the 10/1 game against the Phillies. Taking the other theoretical route by saying the Mets go nuts and claim the last wildcard, he likely wouldn’t be put on the roster even in that case, but you still can’t call him out for the season until the Mets are officially eliminated.
At 3:09:59 PM on October 1st, are you willing to hold your breath until Carrasco’s next start?
While i dont think he is coming back it is estimated time frame. If you remember right Pete Alonso was supposed to be out 3-4 weeks and was back in 10 days. I dont think he should have come back that early but he did.
This could be more Cookie trying to come back sooner and show he has something to interest a team as a FA and maybe and thats a very very slight maybe get a decent major league deal. Im not holding my breathe he comes back though and fully dont expect him back. If anything they should just 60 day him instead of 15 day when they need another pitcher so they can bring another on the 40 man and potentially start / play.
Lucchesi should finish the season in the rotation.
The Phillies have a lot of games left against the Mets, and with Carrasco out, I’m now worried that the Mets will win a bunch of them.
As much of a lost cause as this season has been for the Mets, finishing the season on fire with many of the remaining games against the teams ahead of them in the wildcard race in their own division is the only glimmer of hope remaining. I’m not expecting it but I don’t think falling into the bottom six to get a high draft spot is useful either. If they have any plans at all to pursue a player that will be under a QO, such as Ohtani, getting a high draft pick is useless.
I can see it. Their pitching and defense is gross, but the lineup catches fire at times.
DJ Stewart near single-handedly de-tanked them.
It’s awful.
VonPurpleHayes;
The Orioles and Phillies have been my 2 favorite teams to watch for 2 years now. (Rays would be one as well, but they just burn out pitchers to win.)
They’re both entertaining. The most attractive attribute they have is the tone their FO heads set – Mike Elias and Dave Dombrowski – that everyone in the organization must not overreact to setbacks during the year, work together to find and make all players under contract better, and aim to peak during the late-August/September stretch run plus the October playoffs. All their players are unselfish, and will take on any role to help the team win each game.
Just a joy to watch those teams play…and the Phillies have the most enjoyable and informative TV broadcast in MLB.
Believe both can make the WS this year.
As a fan, I don’t think it’s awful at all. I don’t support tanking at all and I think, in this case, trying to get a top six draft pick effectively takes away the option of pursuing a player under a QO. Secondly, Stewart staked his claim for the lefty DH/reserve outfielder next season. Vogelbach was on an option over $1M this year. Next year he would return to the arbitration schedule, so he’s likely to be non-tendered. Plus, I read that Stewart has minor league options remaining next year while Vogelbach doesn’t.
Cookie is looking like a burnt cookie at this point.
It’s hard to wave goodbye when you don’t have all of your fingers
Looks like Cookie has pitched his last game as a Met.
Well seeing as he’s a Met, it’d of been easier to say he’ll be out for the season rather than out 4-6 weeks
Wow who could of predicted Carrasco having such a bad season? Oh wait, ME. Look back to the article when they opted to use his option. I was the only one on the thread who said this was the worst move of the offseason. Those people won’t admit they’re wrong
i actually looked it up and no you did not say it was the worst decision of the offseason or that it would be a bad season. you just said terrible decision and he doesnt do well with records over 500..Also no one on there really said he would have a good season or bad season actually only it made sense to not have to replace 4 starting pitchers which i agree with especially with most saying how tough a time the cardinals will have replacing 3 starting pitchers this offseason with probably more quality starters this year than last year which is not saying much. I said this before the offseason started … during the offseason and even now. At best his ceiling was a number 5 pitcher that ate innings and that was in thoughts that one of pederson, megill or luchessi step up to take that spot..
oh and if you need the exact quote, “Terrible decision, Carrasco was awful vs any team with a record over .500. Should of QO’d Walker and if he takes it then thats fine”
Im sure you will say some technical that this and that and you will never admit you are wrong. That doesnt say bad season anywhere its vague at best. You might as well have said a lefty pitcher pitches better to lefty batters or a pitcher pitches better against worst record teams which is basically saying the same thing as your quote.
@Roll if you look at my comment compared to everyonr else’s on the post, they acted like this was a no brainer decision. There were so many better options out there to be had for 12 million dollars. It was a complete waste of money and I knew that from the start. I was clearly right
I did look at all the comments and you said in your post here
“Wow who could of predicted Carrasco having such a bad season? Oh wait, ME. ”
I see no prediction in your comment only he would do bad against top teams which a lot of pitchers do and this is why they get put in the back end of the rotation. These guys are meant to go out there soak up innings and give you an outside chance for a win.
“Look back to the article when they opted to use his option. I was the only one on the thread who said this was the worst move of the offseason.”
Again no where do you say this was the worst move. There were much worse moves.
It was a no brainer because there are what on average 20 free agent starters that could be considered decent or better in any offseason? That 20 includes pitchers that dont want to be in NY/Mets (lugo not wanting to be reliever, Wacha same, Greinke i believe doesnt like NY but could be wrong, Kershaw Dodgers or retire, etc etc) Everything else is extreme wildcards (could have easily ended up with Thor which was a target for the team btw) and be even worse.
No one said he was going to be great i dont think anyone even said good because they understood the ceiling was that of a 5th spot innings soaker with maybe a bright spot here and there. He would be out there every time his spot would come up. That or potential trade at the end of that offseason if they get a 4th starter or their depth shows something in Spring Training. They hedged their bets some by keeping him. Also at the end of the offseason there were teams interested in acquiring him so there was potential of that trade and shows how bad the market was. But with Verlander and Quintana out you had to put him higher than he should have been. Kinda like putting Brigham in anything but low leverage / mop up duty it usually doesnt end well but need a body sometimes and they could surprise you.
Last year was a bad market for teams needing starters and big money teams willing to overpay for mediocre pitching they needed. You are saying they would even in a normal market they would take a 1/4 of the better pitchers with the Yankees, Ranger, Dodgers, Angels, Padres and other teams out there looking to fill their rotations? The team barely ended up with 3 imagine if they had to get a 4th? People are already talking about how difficult a time the cardinals with trading pieces are going to have to replace 3 and at the end of the offseason
As others have asked, how does one break a pinkie with a weight? A toe or foot, maybe. But how often is your pinkie in contact with a hard surface?
Guardians won the trade
Carrasco is done , decent career , but he’s lost it . Time to retire