11:03am: The two teams have announced the trade.
9:48am: The Yankees are acquiring left-handed reliever Victor Gonzalez and minor league infield prospect Jorbit Vivas from the Dodgers in exchange for minor league infielder Trey Sweeney, reports Alden Gonzalez of ESPN. Yesterday, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic and Joel Sherman of the New York Post reported that the Yankees were acquiring a pair of 40-man players from the Dodgers in exchange for a prospect not on New York’s 40-man. The trade clears a pair of spots on L.A.’s roster to accommodate the signings of Shohei Ohtani and Joe Kelly.
Gonzalez, 28, has a minor league option remaining but also comes to the Yankees with a solid MLB track record. He’s capable of stepping directly into manager Aaron Boone’s bullpen and will likely be viewed as a favorite to do so. He has far more big league experience than fellow southpaw Matt Krook, making Gonzalez an option to join Nick Ramirez as a second southpaw option for Boone.
Gonzalez missed the 2022 season due to an elbow injury that required an arthroscopic debridement procedure, but he’s logged 89 1/3 innings for the Dodgers from 2020-23, pitching to a 3.22 earned run average with solid strikeout and walk rates (23.2% and 8.4%, respectively) in addition to a massive 58.1% grounder rate. The Yankees tend to gravitate toward relievers with plus ground-ball rates and better-than-average velocity, and Gonzalez checks both boxes, averaging just under 95 mph with a sinker that tops out in the upper 90s.
Gonzalez’s 2023 season wasn’t as sharp as his dominant 2020 MLB debut, but he still posted a 4.01 ERA with strikeout and walk rates that were actually improvements over their 2021 levels. The lefty is also among the game’s best in terms of inducing weak contact, evidenced by a career 84.9 mph average exit velocity and 30.7% hard-hit rate — both drastically lower than this past season’s respective league averages of 89 mph and 39.2%.
The Yankees can control Gonzalez for an additional three seasons. He’s projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn just a $1MM salary in 2024 and will be due subsequent raises building off that foundation in 2025 and 2026 before reaching the open market in the 2026-27 offseason. Gonzalez offers a similar skill set to that of free agent Wandy Peralta, whom the Yankees have reportedly had interest in re-signing, but Gonzalez will come at a fraction of the fiscal cost.
New York also acquires the 22-year-old Vivas, who’s generally considered one of the better prospects in a deep Dodgers farm. MLB.com pegs him tenth in the system, while FanGraphs had him 11th and Baseball America ranked him 20th. All of those rankings are dated by a few months now, but there’s little that Vivas did during his 2023 campaign to radically drop his stock. He posted an excellent .280/.391/.436 slash with 12 homers, 21 steals and more walks than strikeouts in 109 games as a 22-year-old against older competition in Double-A last year.
Vivas jumped to Triple-A late in the season and turned in a lackluster .225/.339/.294 showing at the top minor league level, but that came in a tiny sample of 121 plate appearances and still came with elite walk (12.4%) and strikeout (15.7%) rates. He’s seen time at both second base and third base, though scouting reports on him question whether he’ll have the arm to ultimately handle the hot corner in the Majors. Even if he doesn’t, Vivas is a close-to-MLB-ready second base prospect with a plus hit tool, double-digit home run power and solid baserunning instincts.
In exchange for an affordable Peralta replacement and a quality second base prospect, the Yankees will surrender Sweeney, whom they selected with the No. 20 overall selection in the 2021 draft. Sweeney briefly reached Double-A as a 22-year-old in 2022, but the 2023 season was his first year with notable experience at that level. The 23-year-old handled himself well, batting .252/.367/.411 in a generally pitcher-friendly setting, popping 13 homers and swiping 20 bases with a gaudy 13.8% walk rate and lower-than-average 19.1% strikeout rate.
Sweeney is a well-regarded prospect himself, but perhaps a step below the rung many Yankees fans would expect based on his draft pedigree. FanGraphs ranked him third in the Yankees’ system, but MLB.com had him eighth and Baseball America tabbed him 15th. Sweeney is a bat-first prospect whose long-term future hinges on whether he can stick at shortstop, move to third base on a full-time basis, or settle in as a utility infielder who can bounce around the diamond. He’s a relatively near-MLB addition to the Dodgers’ system, effectively replacing Vivas but doing so without requiring a spot on the 40-man roster until next offseason.
Victor had a couple of dominant relief appearances, but was never consistent.
Great for Victor! I really hate this trade. Trey Sweeney is going to be a good player, an absolute steal for the Dodgers. Sweeney isn’t ready yet, expect him to end up at 3rd or lst base when he’s ready.
Vivas looks to be an ideal leadoff guy, and seems more than competent at 2B. He could be a really good option to replace Gleyber when he is a free agent in 2025. Seems like a better fit with the Yankees long-range plan than Sweeney and possibly a better player all-around.
Gasu I hope Vivas is a stud but I think y’all are forgetting Roderick Arias.
I’m not forgetting Arias, but he’s not gonna be the guy in 2025. If anything, Arias playing great in 2024 means letting Torres walk, which would mean needing a bridge guy until he becomes the choice in 2026 or 27.
@ The Captain
I’ve got to be honest, I think both teams have given I whole lot more than I thought either of them would. I was thinking Bryan Hudson & Gus Varland. The obvious error being me unable to read the comment “including an infielder.” Nevertheless I didn’t see a bullpen comfortable piece, and a decent prospect in return for a 1st round piece.
You’d think they were taking it serious!!!
@A’s fan- yeah you are probably right. Hopefully it works for both teams, those are the best trades. Is Frankie Montas worth 2 years, $22-24 million and a club option for a 3rd year? Please let me know and thanks.
@The Captain re Montas…
In simple terms, if he is healthy, then yes. We as A’s fans thought of him being a #2 starter, potentially.
Thing is, will he ever be healthy? Neither of us did well out of that trade (Trivino too) and same for either sides with Sonny Gray…
Both Cashman & Forst should put the phone down on each other!
@A’sfan- ok cool. I like Montas a lot, hopefully he will be healthy now. I like Trevino though to. Yes bad luck between the Yankees and A’s. No more trades, yes they need to lose each other #’s! Lolololololol!!! Great call!!!
I can’t believe how much attention this trade is getting. It’s unlikely that any of the players makes it to the show.
Are you kidding? Gonzalez has played for the Dodgers in MLB since 2020. Sweeney and Vivas will both be in the Majors sooner or later. If I were you I’d delete your post quickly.
I’ll give you Gonzalez, but since fewer than 5% of minor leaguers ever see even one day in MLB, the odds are heavily against Sweeney and Vivas.
And if I’m wrong, life will go on as we know it.
So the Yankees used 2 of their open 40 man roster spots for these 2 players? I wonder if this means 2 free agents that they considered signing might be headed elsewhere.
No, it doesn’t. They still have three open 40 man roster slots.
No, they just needed a reliever and a prospect to be potential infield backup. The team is still in on multiple free agents.
Jankees need much more pitching. They suck!
Wow somebody sounds bitter and salty, that Ohtani gave the Blue Jays the finger from that pretend jet he was on?
Jankees is a reference to…?
@bullred, OK cellar dweller. Our front office is making serious efforts to put the team in front this year. What has yours done?
Btw Verdugo is a Yankee this year.
We’re talkin’ completely brain dead here. Back under the rock.
Cellar dweller? The Jays are looking down on the Jankees!
And Verdugo is replacement level – 100 ops+ – nothing to be too excited about but I guess compared to what your used to it is an improvement.
Jankees posted a -26 DRS/-16.8 UZR/-5 OAA/15 E defensive slash line . Look away! Don’t stare at those numbers too long! Lol!
Adding Soto is sure to help.
After two full seasons in A+ and AA for Sweeney very much like his 2023 in AA at 23:
252/.367/.411/.777
? He’ll have trouble sticking as a backup IFer, never mind starting at a corner. He just doesn’t have the bat for it, particularly not at 1B.
He may not even make the majors in a small role until he’s 26.
Regrets,
Does Gonzalez actually have an option left? Both Yankee and Dodger SB nation blogs say no.
Charlie, Roster Resource says Gonzalez does have one option left.
not what i was expecting but ok!!
I wonder if this impacts the Yankees re-signing Wandy Peralta.
Not signing Wandy Peralta, including the CBT tax, saves a fair amount of money. So if they see this as a like-kind exchange on talent, for them, it makes sense
At $8 million per they will pass especially if they somehow win bidding for Yamamoto. He is going to cost $350-400 million getting Cole $$$ when all said and done. Honestly I pray Mets win bidding cause if he ends up with Dodgers you may as well not play any games as they will win 120+ games annually
I love how only the NY teams and Dodgers are considered. Yamamoto may have a silent preference but others including SF, Boston and Toronto can pay the ultimate cost. Separately, NEVER discount Dembrowski wherever he may be. It seems obvious now he left Boston because ownership thought they didn’t have to continue to spend. The new sheriff in town wouldn’t have taken the job in Boston if there wasn’t a continued commitment to spend. I’d expecting Yamamoto and/or Montgomery to sign with the Red Sox and still think another trade involving an outfielder is coming with Duvall also coming back. They cannot win with Yoshida and Duran both in the outfield. Devers needs to become the DH no later than 25 as well.
Expecting Boston to sign Yamamoto and/or Montgomery….Now this right here is the perfect definition of a full blown, world class PIPE DREAM.
Anthony, bb has shown us fans that even if a team’s line-up is filled with future hall of famers, you’ve got to play the games and are 162 of them (i wish they bring those down to 144)
Yeah, that would be nice, but it will unfortunately never happen.
Feels like Yanks are going to lose this trade. Sweeney is solid
Vivas actually has better numbers than Sweeney.
We’ll see Joe. I was looking at Sweeney to play 3rd base or lst for us eventually. I don’t know much about Vivas though. Any Dodgers fan out there for a scouting report?
Sweeney does not have enough power for 3B/1B. I like this trade as he is going to end up at Ss/2B
I liked Vivas and thought he had the chance to be a solid regular. Great plate discipline, but don’t think he’ll ever be a star and the Dodgers already have MLB ready guys ahead of him on the depth chart.
Not every player needs to be or can be a star. I’ll settle for a solid regular if he can comfortably replace Torres someday.
Neither did Paul Molitor, Wade Boggs or Rod Carew, yet it still worked out.
Would still need a 2B if Torres leaves next year. Unless Peraza comes around.
Joe,
Was Sweeney eligible for the Rule 5 draft? He didn’t draw protection from the Yankees 40 man roster but maybe Sweeney wasn’t eligible for Rule 5?
“Sweeney’s a relatively near-MLB addition to the Dodgers’ system, effectively replacing Vivas but doing so without requiring a spot on the 40-man roster until next offseason.”
Rick, I think he has one more year. If I remember correctly, a player 19 years old or older when drafted has four years to be added to the 40 man or be eligible for the rule 5 draft.
i mean the yankees have no use for him anyway and they also are one of the best in the game at pitching development and turning bad relievers into good ones. Don’t be surprised to see victor become pretty good for the yankees this upcoming season
Victor is already good. It’s not like it’ll be some miracle work they pulled if he has another season of good results. As long as his health is good, I’d go as far to say I expect it.
Gonzales was very solid a few seasons back(very good in ’20) , but as Zerbs mentioned above, seemed to lack consistency since injury/surgery.
Hopefully, he can get back to being a solid late innings option.
“very good in ’20”
He pitched 20 innings in 2020. And a 4.27 FIP, 1.44 WHIP and 4.8 BB/9 for a relief pitcher in 2021 is not “solid”.
@GreenMonsta- His FIP in 2020 was 1.67 though. 20 IP sample isn’t drastically less than 35 in 2021. As paddy mentioned his 2020 was very good: 1.33 ERA/1.67 FIP with a 0.9 BB/9 and 10.2 K/9. Also, 0 HRA in 20.1 IP.
This is my sentence copy/pasted:
“And a 4.27 FIP, 1.44 WHIP and 4.8 BB/9 for a relief pitcher in 2021 is not “solid”.”
My point was 2020 was a small sample size, those numbers shouldnt be mentioned without the additional info of “in only 20 innings”.
My point about 2021 was it wasnt that good at all, in fact 2023 was arguably better or at least just as good.
Poorly written: Guilty, Accuracy: Spot on.
Fair. I also realized afterward and edited my comment for clarity. Agree that 2020 and 2023 were both better. He had some bad luck in 2023.
Monsta …You are right. Claiming he was very good was a stretch. I was going off top of my head and recalling somewhat selectively my memories of it watching him in’20.
He showed great potential in ’20 and in the WS but even then did need to be bailed out once or twice because of his lack of command.
So more accurately, Gonzalez has shown brief stretches of being a dominant reliever. But as others have pointed out, not consistently.
Hope he does well for the NYY
Sweeney hit .277 vs righties and just .161 vs lefties with a 30%K rate. Not saying he can’t get better, but right now…..not good. Vivas has deep splits too, but not THAT deep.
C’mon ppl , Victor is an stablished reliever and played a role on the 2020 mickey mouse ws for LA. Sweeney is still a suspect. Why he was not asked for in the Soto deal?
I’m not sure you all realize but every time anyone says “Mickey Mouse WS“ it sounds like they’re jealous and petty and I know that’s not what you’re trying to make it sound like, but it’s the way it comes across. If it truly was as inconsequential a World Series as you’re trying to make it seem, you wouldn’t even mention it.
You’re not feeling to well, are you stretch…
Bad trade for NYY only because Sweeney was NYY 1st rd pick of the 2021 draft and LAD needed to get under the 40 so this was NYY “helping” LAD
but the yankees would not get those guys via waivers- they would have been claimed elsewhere first. We also do not know if they would have been the outrights; Hurt, vanasco, feduccia, and Deluca would have all been lower on the totem pole imo. Players can sit in the minors while on the 40 man for a few years, and that is what would likely happen to Vivas.
With that said, if you take the 40 man crunch out of it, it makes more sense… but i think the yankees could have done better…. also Sweeney was a 1st rounder, so it feels like they are giving up on him really early.
“ Hurt, vanasco, feduccia, and Deluca would have all been lower on the totem pole imo.”
Not a chance any of these guys was getting DFA’d before Vivas and Victor.
Vivas is a year YOUNGER than Sweeney and a year closer to MLB having played some AAA last year. he also had much better numbers in AA than Sweeney did. Scouts are saying Luis Arraez (who Yankees fans are in love with) with power.
Nobody is saying Luis Arraez with more power
mlb.com/prospects/dodgers/jorbit-vivas-678391
Lmao
“Arraez with more power.”
A scouting report that was made up by yourself. A career .280 minor league hitter is not Luis Arraez. Profiles aren’t even similar. Closer to a Luis Urias.
mlb.com/prospects/dodgers/jorbit-vivas-678391
According to your link, 2/3 of what reminds people of Arraez are that both are short and from Venezuela.
short? 5’10” is above average for Venezuela – they’re both 4 inches taller than Altuve.
@28 rings
I love how the guy was saying no one compares him to Arraez when the link you posted right above him clearly states that some scouts compare the way he handles the bat to Arraez. Got him.
They probably soured on Vivas because of his AAA results. Small sample size and all, but he ranked #24 on the team in OPS.
Players age-22 or younger at AA who had more BB than K and an ISO over .150:
• Jorbit Vivas
That’s it.
they soured on Vivas because they ran out of 40 man roster space & Sweeney is still a year away from that
Saying the Dodgers soured on Vivas is not really accurate. They put him on their 40 man to begin with and LA has a very deep talented farm. And you don’t ditch a guy who struggled in a short time at AAA. after showing a lot of promise before that.
Actually, Vitas and Sweeney are similar, although Vitas has more upside. Plus, Yanks get a stud lefty reliever who mark my words, will slide right into the Yankee pen in 2024. Dodgers needed 2 spots for Joe Kelley and that Japanese guy they picked up, I forget his name. They don’t have to put Sweeney on their 40 man to keep him. The players they gave to the Yankees both came off their 40 man. Is it just me or does this seem like a very solid deal for NY?
Boring.
This comment wasn’t exactly a cup of java either.
No, no. A true baseball fan whose favorite team was involved in a trade like this would find it quite interesting.
Exciting
Wow they got Vivas. This is a huge, massive win for the Yankees
I’m shocked the Dodgers gave Vivas up
Sweeney is a very good prospect also but I’d rather roll the dice with Vivas. Potential all star prospect
Not a “massive win”, but ok glad you’re excited.
Vivas is a second baseman and in his final option year. Current Dodger second baseman is Mookie Betts. Thus, a trade needed to be made.
Coulda, shoulda got more for Vivas?
A different trade package with a different team?
Probably. Should’ve.
This saves us the money it would cost to re-sign Wandy (who wasn’t as good as his numbers suggest last season). Vivas can play 3rd, a position we need more than another SS. I’m not upset at this deal.
Vivas doesn’t have the arm for third. They’ve tried him at third, where he showed he should be playing at second.
Yankees are going to defer the contracts of both of these players over the next 45 years to keep under the CBT.
what salary- Vivas is on rookie minimum and gonzalez is a releiver just reaching arbitation (so maybe 1m)
Sniff..sniff….Do I smell a bowl of sarcastic sour grapes?
I mean obviously the Dodgers really like Sweeney. And the Yankees are probably sitting back going “They actually gave up Vivas”
For me there’s way too much upside with Vivas to give him up. Could be Altuve, mvp level at 2B
I wonder if the Brewers like Sweeney too.
O’s fan here so I’m unfamiliar with the players…was Gonzalez just a pure roster crunch casualty? He seems like he was far from the worst guy in the Dodgers’ bullpen even with his K rate as low as it is.
sort of. The Dodgers had a crunch, and there are 3-4 relievers on their 40 man they would not really miss. So Gonzalez is the kicker to get over the difference in value of Sweeney and Vivas- both are good prospects, but sweeney is worth more since i think he has 1 more year until he needs to be put on the 40 man roster (or risk being lost in the rule 5 draft)
The talk is that Gonzalez is more or less a 1 for 1 replacement of Wandy- so basically the 5th best guy in the pen.(not scared to use him, but he is not your high leverage guy). he is basically Dillon Tate- the upside is there, but the health risks are huge (not exactly, but wanted to pick the most similar O)
Ah thanks, that makes good sense. A “gotta give to get” sort of thing for the Dodgers to get them Sweeney in return.
Those ground ball pitchers always tend to have good outcomes on the Yanks too. You wouldn’t think it so on paper but their infield group is always pretty solid.
The prospects are pretty similar, with Sweeney at a .789 OPS and Vivas at .805. Sweeney seems to be the better fielder as he’s spent a lot of time at shortstop, unlike Vivas. The kicker is Gonzalez, who’s ready to step into the Yankees bullpen. Not a major trade but it looks like the Yankees are picking up more talent.
This is potentially the trade that turns everything around for the Yankees if Vivas turns into a star. The piece they’ve always been missing
This is bigger than the Soto trade potentially
prospect for prospect trades seldom work out that way. normally there is a reason both teams are selling the guy they are selling.
Is that sarcasm, I can’t tell. I hope it is.
Not to change the subject, but when are the Orioles going to do something? I guess there’s still time but I hope they are not still on that get by on the cheap approach that Peter Angelos seems to adhere to all these past years. Everything went right for them last year till the playoffs but if they stand pat they will regress. Did they trade Santander or was that just a rumor I heard? If they think Kimbrel is going to step in for Bautista they are in for a big unpleasant surprise.
Please let someone else steal the headlines. Vivas and Sweeney are both good looking prospects. The rich get richer.
“The rich get richer”
Im not really seeing the reason for the dread.
Those two players were swapped for each other (8th Yankee prospect for 10th Dodger prospect and a throw in), so its more like ‘the rich get equal value’.
I wouldn’t call Gonzalez a throw in.
per mlb.com- the yankees #8 prospect, and dodgers #10 prospect.
There are plenty of headline deals with the prospect haul being much lower. The soto trade did not have a prospect of either of these guys caliber involved (but King and Brito are not prospects, i suspect King was this level when he was a prospect)
Historical prospect ratings of a player are irrelevant once a player establishes himself at the ML level. A solid-average established ML player is generally worth more than any team’s 9th-best prospect.
Huh? Thorpe is a higher rated prospect than both guys in this trade and Vasquez wasn’t far behind.
None of these guys were ever top 100 prospects, end of story!
Since they are both rich, and assuming that the net result is almost never both sides getting richer, how can this be “the rich getting richer”? Does someone always get poorer on a 1 for 1?
Sweeney could be the best of the
SS the yankees had !
lefthanded bat with power and good fielding range and strong arm !
@boggie77
Meh… not really.
Career minors BA .248 and wOBA .351 doesn’t spell best. Plus, he’s already 23 year old. Good to get rid of him.
we still have Volpe & Peraza and Vargas, Arias & Lombard were poised to leap frog past Sweeney
Vargas?? He’s not even in the Yankee’s top 30. He barely batted .200 last season as a 21 yr old in A ball. The only thing he may be passing in the farm system is gas.
So Dodgers only had 4 lefty reliever now, Ferguson, Bryan Hudson, Vesia and Yarbrough.
Rooney is probably ready for a shot if they need someone – he’s in AAA.
Vesia had a pretty horrific season last year after a semi breakthrough year in 2022. I don’t really trust him much at this point. Ferguson is most dependable but at times his mechanics get out of whack and results are downright scary. Yarbrough to me just doesn’t have enough stuff. He yields softer contact partly because his velocity is so low but he has potential to get hit as his stuff is below average. Can pitch multiple innings though. Hudson is the interesting one if he can command. High ceiling. I can see the Dodgers adding perhaps a more dependable lefty arm out of the pen.
Pitchers can thrive on off-speed pitches if they have the control and an unusual delivery, as Yarbourgh does.
Ok
One wonders what goes through Brian Cashman’s head
I get what the Dodgers are thinking though. They’re probably thinking Vivas’ bat speed and pitch recognition isn’t going to be there
In a faster league he’s going to have some difficulty catching up
Once he fills out he’s going to be kind of slow and heavy
Just like Bobby Bonds did?
Never have I heard the suggestion Vivas is on performance enhancing drugs.
Yankees just slinging recent 1st round picks for middle relievers, huh? Yankees fans, y’all are good with that?
I guess this is a little shortstop protection for the Dodgers, in case Lux doesn’t work out. Even with that ridiculous contract, I doubt that Ohtani can play short. Sweeney is a ways away from the majors but could figure in L.A.’s future infield plans.
For 700 million Ohtani better be able to play shortstop and grill hotdogs
Sweeney’s a decent prospect. The Yankees meanwhile always seem to improve relievers and need a lefty. We can all move on now.
Yankees traded their #8 prospect for the Dodgers #10 prospect and a lefty reliever. Both prospects had solid years at AA.
I bash Cashman for many things, but grabbing pen arms and turning them into gold isn’t one of them…..so we’ll see how Gonzalez turns out.
don’t forget Dodgers have #6 farm system in MLB and Yankees have #26… Vivas will immediately be 8 or 9 – like when we acquired Clayton Beeter and he jumped up from 15 in Dodgers to 14 in NY
Nope. He’s been ranked #10 in the Yank’s top 30.
All players involved on a private jet to Toronto! Per J P Morosi
Not sure why teams like KC, Detroit or Pittsburgh didn’t take advantage of Dodgers predicament…
Interesting trade. Dodgers fan here.
Vivas is a very good prospect. He has no arm so he’s pretty much 2B – but he is good there. His real issue is severe platoon splits, which unless he figures it out might mean he’s a platoon player.. But he’ll get to the majors.
Gonzales is good – I like him more than others seem to. He is one of those the results don’t always match his stuff guy. But I like him more than it seems the Dodgers did – he kept falling down the pecking order.
Sweeney is interesting – do the Dodgers have to pay any of his bonus is one question I have. I have faith the Dodgers have a specific plan for him – and it probably starts with toning down or eliminating the leg kick and going from there. I trust the Dodgers development staff.
Same here. Gonzalez definitely had his moments with the Dodgers and at one time one of most dependable lefty relievers. Then he had an off year and injury and never quite back to form. You can never have enough decent lefty options out of the pen and you can do a lot worse than Gonzalez. I would have preferred Gonzalez in the pen over some of the interesting arms the Dodgers recycled in the pen over the last couple of years.
I’ll take this as a win for NYY.. Victor immediately steps into Wandy’s role, and Jorvit is a bit ore useful a prospect than Sweeney.
Victor was a big contributor in 2020 and deserves thanks from Dodgers fans. I hope he fares well in his new digs.
Gonzalez has some thick thighs
Gonzalez fills an immediate need and Vivas could be a Gleyber replacement by the trade deadline or next season.
Sweeny was the Yankees 3B of the Future. Horrible deal for Cashman. He could be another Seager. Bad bad trade
I don’t know much about Gonzalez but is he replacing Peralta as a cheaper alternative?
Yes and younger.
At 23 in AA ball and not even ranked within the top 100 prospects, I don’t see a comp to Seager at all.
He might have been referring to Corey’s brother Kyle who played with the Mariners or possibly his other brother Justin who never made it to the majors.
well, the Yanks were feeling sorry for the Dodgers and their slim chances at competing with that roster so they threw them a bone. maybe Sweeny will win the opening day DH spot from that other loser they got.
Vivas is a year younger and has actually played 3B professionally… as opposed to Sweeney who played 3 games at 3B in his first year in college
it’s a ground ball. There’s a reason SS become 3b, and not the other way around.
Lol no
As a dodger fan, I love your enthusiasm. Honestly, looking at his age and productivity at this point.l he seems like a very solid bat and an above average fielder who could turn into the next Chris Taylor. That would be the comparable I would see in this, maybe a little less swing and miss? And if that turns out to be the case, I’ll take it!
To the Victor goes the spoils
Excellent
To the spoiled fans goes victor
Poor Yankees.
Love it. A prospect swap with some meat to it. There should be more of this sort of savvy roster managing.
Typically teams display too much ceiling grade hesitancy to take advantage of leveraging remaining control years of similarly graded prospects, but here you see a mutually benefitting swap with both 40 man maneuvering and big league roster construction elements at play.
A funny thought is both front offices instantly turning back their attention to competing for Yamamoto- fun times for NYY/LAD fans.
A prospect for a slightly worse version and a lefty reliever seems reasonable now that lefty bats are harder to get out. From the Dodgers perspective, a recently injured lefty and a no-power infielder are worth a former 1st round pick SS with solid tools when they need a SS for the future.
Gavin Lux would like a word with you.
The Dodgers put writing on the wall today when the trade was announced.
what writing? 1)They’re giving up on a guy they let Seager go for? 2) They’re doing it despite him never being the full-time SS because he got injured?
That writing?
Shake yourself.
It’s almost noon, and not one former Pirates pitcher signing with a Japanese team yet today?
MOAR ALEX VESIA says Friedman and Co.
All I want for christmas is Stanton and Torres off my team . I hope Spencer Jones and Arias are still Untouchables.
Interesting trade
This could be one of those rare win-win trades for both sides, to minor effect. Gonzalez is a solid lefty RP though somewhat erratic. After he was sent back down last year after a brief struggling period he seemed to have fixed some things and did good work. he is what he is though, he’ll get outs, he’ll have a few bad outings, he won’t cost much, and he’s pretty replaceable from Dodgers standpoint but helps Yankees. Vivas and Sweeney both have their limits as prospects but each could help a need for their new orgs. The Dodgers probably like Trey’s ceiling being a bit higher and that he can play SS and 3b, both areas that were lacking in their system at the moment. Vivas can literally only play 2b, and his ceiling isn’t super high, but he has a high floor, likely major leaguer who has solid hit tool. Another knock against him is his splits, making me wonder if he’ll just be a platoon guy in the majors. Still, he’ll be in the majors and will probably help NYY soon, Trey needs more seasoning. Dodgers value versatility so he fits them better than maybe Vivas ever did. So… all 3 guys could help! And maybe no one will move the needle.
No team enters into a trade without intending to come out ahead, so by definition, all trades start out as win-wins. Nobody can possibly know if one of the trading partners “won” the trade until later, sometimes a lot later.
Yes of course, both teams assume they won, fans hope their team comes out ahead. I’m merely projecting or predicting, how this feels like one that actually could benefit both sides next two seasons, rather than right now. 😉
Cashman continues to make poor trades/signings at what point will the Yankees front office start to realize this? Cashman gave up a left-handed hitting – past 1st rd pick – for two player’s the Dodgers needed to clear from their 40 man roster. The Dodgers had no choice. The Yankees should’ve given a lower tier type player to the Dodgers to help clear their roster space.
The Yankees significantly upgraded their OF offense with Soto, Grisham, and Verdugo and gave their lineup more balance with lefty bats. And then added a cheap lefty reliever to replace Wandy Peralta as well as a possible 2B replacement for Gleyber Torres. They’re in it to win in 2024 and blowing way past CBT thresholds. Prospect-hugging will lead to another dismal finish in the standings. What’s the problem here?
The Yankees are looking better by the day
Poor? What was your plan for Sweeney? He was either a SS (blocked), 2B (blocked) or a 1B (blocked), the man doesnt play 3B neither. We got a simmilar player in Vivas back, except he is mainly a 2B and a leftie bullpen arm with mlb experience for a million bucks and team control.
Vivas also plays 3rd which is a big plus.
He may have played some 3B in the minors, but not much, and all scouts seem to agree that he projects as a 2B, due to some arm liabilities. He may end up a good second baseman tho, which still has value! Just doesn’t have the defensive flexibility the dodgers prioritize.
I’m surprised the Dodgers gave up Gonzalez. I think it would have been worth it to have him around on the opening day roster.
69 (nice) innings over the last three years.
More inconsistency for Boone. Fitting since is also quite spotty. The team will be a hodgepodge of trades and they will all signed elsewhere after their Forced tenure ends. Yankees will do this for several years. Cole will opt out in the hopes of signing with LA but the Yankees will pay the ransom and make him stay.
Lol… i see yankee hate is alive and well.
MLB Pipeline will now rank Vivas in their top 100.
So, Gonzales hasn’t actually torn his UCL yet. Just wait.
Sweeney debuts on the Dodgers MLB Top 30 at #18, several slots below Vivas’s. Lack of 40 man spot and perhaps ability to play SS apparently had a significant amount of value.
Idk I mean wouldn’t it have made more sense for the NYY to just keep Sweeney and try him at 2nd in 2025… they don’t seem primed to extend Torres so why not give him a shot.. at worst he doesn’t work out and you just move DJ to second and go after a 3B.. want trading him for a similar enough player in Vivas a lateral move? Like I get you’re getting Gonzalez cheaper than peralta but I’m sure you could have gotten a peralta replacement somewhere without giving up Sweeney.. like I said idk just seems like a lateral move imo
Vivas can also play 3rd, a fact a lot of folks are missing.
He doesn’t have a great arm, probably wouldn’t stick at 3B.
Not really
One thing for sure the Yanks best scouts know their minor league talent. Sweeney had 2 SS’s in front of him and 2 behind him. Cashman adds a lefty in the pen who has major league experience, and another lefty bat. This was a good move.
Another failed 1st rounder in the Cashman tenure. It really is impressive someone could miss this badly in the draft for 20+ years. Maybe they should just let baseball america make their picks going forward and then loan them to a Japanese team to develop. Outsource it all.
How is he a failed first rounder? Not only do we not know how well he will do in the majors, he just netted a reliever and and another equal prospect.
Bc he is 23 and not even a good AA player yet. He was also pretty “meh” in A ball and didn’t force his promotion… his 1st round attachment did.
Honestly it’s the best thing for him. Dodgers know to develop players, Yankees don’t. Hopefully it clicks for him out west bc it certainly wasn’t going to happen under Cashmans watch.
canyon of heroes, world series parade here we come!
5 years from now!!
You think this is the move that’s going to get the Yankees past the rays and Astros? Yanks are not contenders anymore. They just sell tickets (far fewer these days, but it’s ok they cost more than any other team by far) and sell merch. Get ready to toss your Soto jersey after 162 games.