The Mariners and Diamondbacks are among the clubs with interest in free agent slugger Jorge Soler, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. Soler opted out of the final year and $13MM on his three-year contract with the Marlins at the beginning of the offseason.
That decision came as little surprise when looking at Soler’s production this past season. The 31-year-old (32 in February) popped 36 home runs while slashing .250/.341/.512 in 580 plate appearances with Miami. His 11.4% walk rate was the second-highest of his career and best since 2016, while his 24.3% strikeout rate was the lowest of his career. Soler averaged a hefty 91.3 mph off the bat and ranked in the 91st percentile of all MLB hitters in terms of “barreled” ball rate, as defined by Statcast. In a market largely devoid of power bats, Soler has clear middle-of-the-order upside, and his recent K/BB improvements are particularly encouraging.
The Marlins are said to have some interest in a reunion, but both Seattle and Arizona are obvious fits for a hitter of this skill set. The Mariners opted not to make Teoscar Hernandez a qualifying offer and let him walk in free agency, removing one of their top power bats in the process. They later traded Eugenio Suarez and his $12MM salary to the D-backs, receiving backup catcher Seby Zavala and high-upside reliever Carlos Vargas in the process. The M’s also engineered a salary-motivated deal sending Marco Gonzales and Evan White to the Braves alongside Jarred Kelenic, netting righties Jackson Kowar and Cole Phillips in the process.
Mariners president of baseball operations Jerry Dipoto said earlier this offseason that he hoped to lower the team’s strikeout rate, and moving on from both Hernandez (31.1%) and Suarez (30.8%) work toward that end. Soler has long had strikeout issues of his own, but he’s at 25.1% over the past three seasons. That’s a notable decrease from both Hernandez and Suarez, and Soler has more power than either player. Dipoto has also spoken this winter about how he’d be comfortable deploying a full-time designated hitter. Soler, of course, would fit that billing. He can still play right or left field in a pinch, but his defensive deficiencies are well known.
The trades of Suarez, Gonzales and White have left the M’s with a projected payroll under $120MM. Dipoto, meanwhile, has suggested that despite the cost-cutting measures so far this winter, the overall payroll could still rise higher than last year’s $140MM mark. There’s room to add Soler and still pursue other offensive upgrades (particularly if the Soler deal is backloaded). Soler is also quite familiar with new Mariners hitting coach Brant Brown, who held the same role in Miami last year.
Down in Arizona, the D-backs have significantly boosted payroll by acquiring Suarez and agreeing with Eduardo Rodriguez on a four-year, $80MM contract. Their projected $133MM payroll is a tick higher than the franchise-record mark of $131.5MM, but the Snakes are also coming off an unexpected deep postseason run that saw them advance all the way to the World Series. Presumably, there’s some extra resources in their supply as a result of that increase in revenue. And, the surge into the Fall Classic’s spotlight in many ways shows that the core of this group has arrived, and the time to supplement it is now.
Rosenthal reports that the Diamondbacks’ preference would be for a right-handed bat that can slot into the middle of the lineup. Again, Soler fits that description aptly. The D-backs have an all left-handed outfield (Corbin Carroll, Alek Thomas, Jake McCarthy, Dominic Fletcher), so adding Soler for some occasional corner work and plenty of designated hitter plate appearances would help to balance out the lineup.
There’ll surely be competition for Soler’s services, and the question of asking price is paramount for a pair of suitors who are likely working with limited financial maneuverability, to varying extents. Rosenthal suggests both Arizona and Seattle would prefer to spread out their remaining resources over multiple hitters. Without knowing exactly how high D-backs owner Ken Kendrick is willing to take payroll, it’s hard to say whether there’d be room to add Soler and look for further supplements (at least via free agency). With regard to the Mariners, it seems plenty feasible to sign Soler to a multi-year deal — MLBTR predicted a three-year, $45MM deal, for what it’s worth — and still have room to make some further additions if the payroll indeed can increase over last year’s roughly $140MM threshold.
Bnickles127
Too expensive for mariners, fake news to try and quiet fans
Sheldon Bowen
They announced adding marlins hitting coach yesterday. Bread crumbs……….
Stevil
Does anyone actually believe the Mariners will sign a significant free agent bat?
good vibes only
Nope. I think they’ll do their work by trade and guessing it’ll be more of a Tyler O’Neill than a Randy Arozarena.
Joel P
ONeill is a great fit for the Mariners. Heck of a lot better than giving Soler a pile of money. Sure Arozarena is a better bet but he will cost something ridiculous. Oneill can be had for some dude named Justin Topa methinks.
Stevil
If Seattle reacquires O’Neill, things are far worse for the team than they already appear. They don’t need an often-injured outfielder, especially considering their MLB-ready depth will be thin if Canzone has a semi-regular role and Trammell gets traded or cut loose.
Joel P
Canzone and Marlowe is pretty good depth. Most importantly ONeill won’t require a bunch of money which should appeal to the Mariners.
Stevil
Again, Canzone is expected to have a regular role, or semi-regular role.
Why would a team that has already lost 4 of their regular bats that accounted for virtually all of their power apart from Julio, target a guy who can’t stay healthy? If he’s on the IL, the team would be forced to lean on a player, Marlowe, with limited experience and plenty to prove. And if Canzone struggles….yikes.
Seattle has to have an established corner outfielder they can depend on playing the field. The only way O’Neill really makes sense is if the cost to acquire him is low (Topa wouldn’t likely cut it) and they use him as a DH/fourth outfielder.
That doesn’t seem likely.
Joel P
The Mariners have no money. If they wanted a reliable power bat who strikes out a lot they would have kept Suarez. ONeill is cheap and if he’s healthy he’s good. And Marlowe and Canzone both deserve playing time anyways so if he gets hurt so what? I imagine the Mariners are getting 2 outfielders not just one. ONeill could be one.
You think Topa is some valuable asset???
lee cousins
There’s nothing wrong with having him as a DH. especially if he can be had at a discount, this is not like putting all your eggs in one basket. Personally I like the idea. The Cards have been making plenty of moves most notably pitching I feel they are very approachable maybe all the more so since receiving that num.1 draft pick plus we have history with them.
Joel P
ONeill is a 2 time gold glover. He could use a few games at DH just to keep him fresh and healthy but he’s a great defensive player.
Stevil
The Mariners very likely will get two outfielders, but one is expected to be a platoon partner with Canzone. I gave you the reasons they’re highly unlikely to bet on O’Neill for a regular role. You’re free to dismiss it, but you’re argument that they don’t have money isn’t a good one. Even if they’re limited, they have the chips to get a healthy fielder.
Topa is well-appreciated by the Mariners. You’d know that if you were a fan of the team. He’s one of four likely locks for the bullpen. Muñoz, Brash, and Speier are the others.
slund24
Tyler O’Neill will likely be DFA’d. M”s don’t sign significant bats in FA because no one wants to go to Seattle unless Seattle offers significantly more than anyone else.
Joel P
ONeill is not going to be DFAd not sure why you believe that. ONeill is from just north of Seattle he’s Canadian. He grew up a Mariners fan. Geez man if you are going to comment be informed.
slund24
He also used to be a Mariner and they traded him for Marco. I’m familiar with him. He also has fallen to 5th on the depth chart in St Louis and they’ve been trying to trade him for a while with no takers.
Joel P
He’s not 5th on the depth chart he’s simply not going to be around on opening day. Mozeliak and Marmol have both handled the situation like total idiots. They tried to trade him at the deadline last year but he was just coming off the IL. Again if it’s ONeill or give Soler a 3 or 4 year deal I would much rather have ONeill. Not a lot of money and a lot of upside. If he gets hurt the Mariners can play Marlowe.
crazybaseballgal
I don’t and I used to be a look at the bright side fan
Stevil
I really wanted to believe the promises made would be honored. But the time to do that was last offseason, so I’m in the same boat.
Joel P
If ONeill plays well the Mariners can trade him at the deadline. Even if they are in the hunt for a playoff spot they can still trade him they proved that with Sewald.
#marinersgonnamariner
Stevil
They’re not a team that should be looking for rebound candidates to move at the deadline. That’s what rebuilding teams do.
If they get a regular corner outfielder and O’Neill, fine. But I can’t see them fielding an OF of O’Neill-Julio-Canzone. That would be notably shakier than the 2023 opening day outfield.
Joel P
I am assuming they are getting 2 corner outfielders not just 1. Canzone can play 1b I believe he’s gonna take Fords place.
The Mariners seem more concerned with payroll than they do improving the team.
Stevil
He’s not taking Ford’s place, nor France’s place.
I would rather see him as a fourth outfielder/role player. But everything I’ve heard suggests they’re prepared to give him an OF corner, which makes the other corner all the more important.
Joel P
Canzone and Marlowe should be the 4th and 5th outfielders. You take a chance on ONeill and sign or trade for another guy. That’s what makes sense to me.
Stevil
They don’t have room on the roster for Canzone and Marlowe, and Marlowe represents their only MLB OF depth with at least some experience and options.
The bench as of now is Zavala, Moore, Haggerty, Caballero.
Joel P
If Moore or Caballero aren’t your starting 2b then who is?
Stevil
Rojas, with Moore/Haggerty/Caballero taking PAs against LHPs.
Joel P
I guess. Seems like Haggerty could be upgraded. If the Mariners are really only getting 1 more outfielder then yeah I would want someone with a better track record of health. But I think they will get 2 more.
TMQ
Not really their fault that the way fans watch baseball has drastically changed the last 9-12 months. Lots of other teams ended up losing 10s of millions of dollars. Such as the Padres
ayrbhoy
Stevil- it all depends on your definition of “significant”. There are only a couple “impact bats” available in FA so you’d have to think a significant bat would have to come via trade.
I for one don’t think the M’s will not make an attempt to improve upon last years team wRC+. Which tbh won’t take much to do. I’m not waiving the white flag or anything but the chance to do something significant was over the last 2 offseasons….
Stevil
Ohtani, Bellinger, and Soler. Those are the significant bats. and the gaps between each of them is significant.
I think trades are far more likely as well. The bar was set low, so I wouldn’t be surprised if I like the opening day roster more than last season’s, but I’m not confident they’ll get the kind of impact they really need.
And it’s not just impact bats they need. They really need a high-leverage reliever/closer. Maybe they can fix one of the arms they just acquired, but until I see success, I’ll call it a need.
I also think they could use another starting pitcher. I don’t like the idea of both Miller and Woo rounding out the back-end of the rotation. Its not that I don’t like them, it’s that neither went deep often (especially Woo) and both were exhausted by September. Seattle should get Ray back in the second half, which would help, but I hate the idea of depending on a pitcher recovering from surgery to bail them out.
ayrbhoy
The best way for Seattle to get the most out of this young core from their 2019 rebuild is to start at the highest level: a change in ownership.
We know that is not happening any time soon Stevil. If Dipoto is able to sign 2-3 players from this FA class, maybe Soler and L Gurriel or Hoskins, I do wonder if the FO is also counting on adding a couple in house prospects to the lineup. I’m not talking about Marlowe or Canzone. I wonder if the FO is planning on Ryan Bliss and Jonatan Clase to help inject the lineup with better bat to ball skills, improved BB rates and more speed.
I wouldn’t be shocked if the FO is also picturing Harry Ford contributing in the 2nd half of 2024. Those 3 prospects would definitely make that lineup much more athletic. The big question of course is will those 3 struggle to hit at the Big League level like so many OF, 2B and DH prospects have from this current rebuild.
Re: who the team will actually sign and who I’d love to see sign this yr- I’ve been let down over the last 3 offseasons, its been such a bleak start to this years the current information being leaked by Dipoto and Servais now has me worried that Ownership is going to squander this current Rotaion. Its still early in FA window. So much can change
Stevil
I don’t have time to dive into this right now, but I think Seattle needs to target both veteran hitters and prospects with high ceilings.
I don’t think Bliss or Ford (nor Young) will be leaned upon, or even called up barring catastrophes.
The most appealing free agents to me are starting pitchers, but I like Bellinger more than most Mariner fans.
ayrbhoy
I would be absolutely shocked, completely gobsmacked, and ecstatic, if the M’s sign Bellinger. Are you kidding me? I’d love Cody B!
I just don’t see them outbidding CHI and the rest of the teams who lost out on the Ohtani Sweepstakes! Speaking of – It Must be nice to have an owner who spunks $700m on one person.
Sadly with this Mariners Ownership Group, we will always be a mid market team (12th in the TV market) that spends like a small market team.
I love the idea of having Ryan Bliss and Jonatan Clase on the team, but that’s only because I think our lineup needs more stolen bases. Those two had 130+ SB combined in 2023.
Remember all those extra inning wins from our 2022 lineup? They put the ball in play, wreaked havoc on the bags, hit to the gaps instead of swinging out their shoes over the fences. We played more fundamental baseball and relied on our lock-down BP. I’d love to see us get back to that style of ball.
Stevil
Hey ayrbhoy
I’m not anticipating a big signing like Bellinger either, I just think he’s a lot better than a lot of fans seem to think. When reports came out that Seattle was interested, which was likely just due diligence, I saw a lot of push-back, suggesting his 2023 was fluke because he didn’t hit the ball hard consistently. I think people read too much into EV and HardHit%. There’s a lot more to consider.
Guys like Clase and DeLoach (and Marlowe as well) have to cut down on the Ks. DeLoach is a lot closer than Clase, But virtually all of these prospects shouldn’t be seen as anything more than depth. I’d like to see Seattle acquire young players/prospects that are MLB-ready and I think they probably can net one at the expense of Miller or Woo.
They really need stars and above-average regulars. They currently have 6 questionable positions in the lineup: 1B, 2B, 3B, LF, RF, and DH. We aren’t likely seeing changes at 2B or 1B, and that’s okay, But they can’t keep creating holes and just plug them with rentals. This team isn’t going to have an identity.
So, maybe they’ll need to trade a top prospect like Young as well as a pitcher like Miller.
I’m curious how they’ll address their needs, but am surprisingly disconnected right now. My expectations are low, even though they’ve moved on from the players (bats) I believed they needed to move on from the most.
Big Smoke
Who’s gonna be the lucky team to overpay for this guy as a consolation prize for missing out on Ohtani?
TheBoatmen
Dodgers
Aaron Sapoznik
It’s more likely the Dodgers re-sign D.J. Martinez or Justin Turner if they somehow manage to lose out on the unicorn.
PoopMonster
I’d like to see the Ms get Turner on a 2Y deal and put him at the hot corner.
Rsox
Justin’s days of playing the field regularly are over. One of the reasons he probably stayed healthy and productive all last season was being the primary DH with occasional games at 1B
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
He’s either good or terrible hard to commit long term to him
CalcetinesBlancos
This guy isn’t good.
Eric Baechler
36 homers. 75 Rbi Guy. Solo shots!!! DH only
inkstainedscribe
If Soler is a hot commodity, Ozuna ($16mm, 1 year) should have some value on the trade market.
Aaron Sapoznik
Soler doesn’t have Ozuna’s “baggage” on his resume.
larkraxm
Braves will have to eat payroll to move Ozuna. Too many guys with similar profiles can be had as a FA. Remember, a team would have to give Braves prospects and pay 16 million. Soler can be had for just money.
Wire to wire 2024
Maybe the reds will sign him instead of a pitcher..
Wagner>Cobb
AZ should get JD Martinez instead. They already have two high risk high reward power bats in Walker and Suarez.
drdback
Soler has some power, but is a terrible fielder. DBacks would be better off re-signing Gurriel and picking up JD Martinez as a fulltime DH for the next couple of years.
CravenMoorehead
He’s got that Soler power
Slothcliff Hokum
If the M’s decide to spend, I could see them going for one or more of Soler, Lourdes Gurriel and Joc Pederson. Soler could DH, Gurriel could be in LF, and Pederson could platoon with an OF or DH. I’d rather see them do this than trade one of their young starting pitchers. I’m not saying these would necessarily be great signings, but now that Candelario is gone (and I’m guessing ownership won’t pony up the money for Bellinger), these are the kinds of signings to which I believe they’re reduced. If they decide to trade, maybe they could get Donovan or Paredes. I think adding one of those two at 3B would probably help, but really only in addition to guys they might sign. Sign a couple of guys, trade for one?
Joel P
Donovan isn’t available. ONeill is. He’s a good fit for the Mariners.
Stevil
Pederson is very likely on Seattle’s radar. I don’t think he’d cost as much as the other DH’s, either. Soler would be reunited with the hitting instructor that helped him get back on track, so there’s that.
It’s easy to see interest in reacquiring Noelvi Marte or a package of Rays players.
Joel P
Pederson made 18 million dollars last year. He’s probably looking at 11 or 12 in 2024 which is literally twice what ONeill will make.
Soler is trouble. He can’t play defense. He can hit but it’s like Joey Gallo he gets all his homers in junk time.
desertdawg
D’Backs really want to make their fans happy, re-sign Gurriel and sign JD Martinez for DH duties.
Rexhudler86
Dbacks have Thomas, and fletcher. Jd martinez or turner would work for the dh.
MarkieFresh
A Reunion with Goldschmidt mid season when the Cards fall out would make Snakes fans happy.
dano62
I’d prefer M’s spin the wheel on a Duvall and Hoskins combo than all in for one dimensional Soler.
dshires4
So much for cutting strikeouts…
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
His K rate was about 24% this year. Suarez, Kelenic, and Hernandez were all striking out at a clip north of 30%. Signing Soler would reduce the Ks.
Poolhalljunkies
Read the red sox Were also interested
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
I would love Soler to return to the cubs to be their DH if they miss out on Ohtani. Unfortunately I don’t see it happening.
DFForReal12
This is a hard sell with what they’ve been preaching this offseason and with their current moves. Soler also seems like a player that would fetch a multi-year deal. Dipoto’s history shows that he will NOT give a multi-year FA position player acquisition. I just can’t put much stock into this…
Unfortunately, I don’t feel that the Mariners are going to break from the mold they’ve created for themselves. There is a position/stance that needs to be adjusted: spend on multiple position players and/or trade prospects/arms. Sadly… probably whatever they decide to do will piss off the fan base: spent too much on a player, spent on the WRONG player, dealt too good/much of a prospect(s), why did we trade for player X…. I don’t feel bad for the organization, but I don’t think they’ll get much sympathy/support for any decision.
jvent
The Mets need Soler or Hoskins to DH
Dumpster Divin Theo
Soler power is sustainable. Do it, do it clean as the Bunnymen would say
Ma4170
Replacing teoscar with soler is like replacing teoscar with… teoscar
Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can
Soler actually takes his walks.
Ma4170
True, though teoscar less inconsistency year to year (though both are incredibly streaky during a year)
stretch123
Anything more than 3 years and 15 million annually is an overpay for Soler. As a Marlin fan I hope he comes back at this price but happy to let him walk if someone offers him more. FA seems to be loaded with DH types this offer.
If he doesn’t return to Miami, I think he would be a nice fit with D’backs .
CheapazMariners
Mariners are the odd man out at every dance.
Rsox
Unfortunately he’s called “Trader Jerry” and not “Contract-Signing Jerry” for a reason
ayrbhoy
He’s called Trader Jerry because he knows he has an ownership group that gives him very little money.
Much like last year, when the M’s made the Playoffs for the first time in 2 decades. Both Dipoto (and Servais) thought they would be able to upgrade on 2022’s lineup by adding an impact bat or two. When it was time to do so they traded for Kolten Wong then signed AJ Pollock and Tommy La Stella.
His Ownership Group does NOT go all in on winning. Thats why he makes so many trades
etex211
The Mariners dumped all of that swing and miss from their lineup so they could go after Soler? I don’t get it.
ayrbhoy
Last season Soler hit more HR’s than Kelenic and Suarez combined, his K/0 % was also lower by around 6% You cannot find many power hitters at the DH position who have elite swing and miss profiles. Swing and miss comes with the territory
DarrenDreifortsContract
Sounds like fools gold to me. What are the chances he puts up the same power numbers next season?
Ghost Pepper
In Phoenix?
Really likely.
drdback
Not in Seattle’s cavernous pitchers’ ballpark.
Rsox
I would like to see the Red Sox get Soler as he is the type of pure power bat the lineup is sorely lacking.
Enregistre
God, Steve Adams needs to figure out how commas work. If you use “and” to start a sentence, there shouldn’t be a comma after it.