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Angels Sign Robert Stephenson To Three-Year Contract

By Anthony Franco | January 21, 2024 at 10:25pm CDT

The Angels announced the signing of reliever Robert Stephenson to a three-year contract on Tuesday afternoon. Stephenson, a client of Apex Baseball, is reportedly guaranteed $33MM. There’s also a conditional team option for the 2027 campaign based on Stephenson’s elbow health. If the pitcher suffers an elbow ligament injury that causes him to miss 130 consecutive days, the Halos would have a $2.5MM option on his services for a fourth season. He will otherwise make $11MM annually over the next three years.

Stephenson, 31 next month, was the top remaining free agent reliever once Josh Hader came off the board. Within a couple hours of Hader agreeing to a five-year, $95MM pact with the Astros, Stephenson decided to join him in the AL West.

A three-year guarantee for Stephenson would have seemed outlandish six months ago. Until last summer, he looked like a volatile middle innings arm. A former first-round pick and highly-regarded prospect with the Reds, Stephenson struggled early in his career as a starter. He moved to relief full-time in 2019 and had an up-and-down trajectory.

The 6’3″ righty turned in a sub-4.00 ERA in 2019 and ’21 before a rough 2022 campaign. He split the year between the Rockies and Pirates, allowing a 5.43 ERA through 58 innings. Stephenson opened last season with 14 innings of nine-run ball in Pittsburgh.

An early June trade sending him to the Rays for infielder Alika Williams didn’t result in a ton of fanfare. It wound up being one of the more adept rental acquisitions of the summer, though, one that completely changed his fortunes in free agency.

Stephenson was arguably the most dominant pitcher in the majors for the season’s final four months. During his time in Tampa Bay, he worked to a 2.35 ERA across 38 1/3 innings. He punched out a laughable 42.9% of hitters while walking fewer than 6% of batters faced. Among relievers with 30+ innings after June 1, only Félix Bautista, Aroldis Chapman and Pete Fairbanks punched hitters out at a higher rate.

Even that doesn’t capture how overpowering he was on a pitch-for-pitch basis. Opponents whiffed more often than they made contact. Hitters put the bat on the ball on 49.3% of their swings against Stephenson in Tampa Bay. That wasn’t simply the best mark in MLB. It was almost 10 percentage points lower than anyone else over that stretch. Chapman, against whom batters made contact on 59% of their swings, was second.

It’s not hard to pinpoint a reason for that excellence. Before he went to Tampa Bay, he paired a near-97 MPH four-seam fastball with a mid-80s slider. With the Rays, he leaned mostly on an upper-80s breaking ball that Statcast classifies as a cutter. Opponents couldn’t do anything with that pitch. They swung through it nearly three-fifths of the time and hit .101 in 79 at-bats. By the season’s final month, he was using the pitch at a near-75% clip.

Whether Stephenson adopted the cutter from scratch or just found a way to add a couple ticks of velocity to his former slider isn’t clear. In any event, it’s a pitch he’ll surely lean on frequently in Orange County. The Angels can’t expect him to maintain quite the level he showed in Tampa Bay — that’d be a tough ask for anyone — but they’re surely anticipating him stepping in as a quality high-leverage arm.

That’s not without risk. Stellar as Stephenson’s finish was, his time in Tampa Bay comprised fewer than 40 innings. From his 2019 bullpen transfer through his stint in Pittsburgh, he tallied a 4.53 ERA in 192 2/3 frames between three teams. Some of that can be attributed to playing in hitter-friendly home venues in Cincinnati and Colorado, but he clearly wouldn’t have been a candidate for a three-year pact had he not finished the way he did. His 26.9% strikeout rate over those four-plus seasons was a solid but hardly elite number.

It’s the first significant acquisition of the offseason for the Halos. While Stephenson is their fourth bullpen pickup overall, the other three signings were modest one-year investments. Luis García landed a $4.75MM deal, while Adam Cimber inked a $1.65MM pact after being non-tendered by Toronto. Adam Kolarek, who signed for $900K, was already outrighted off the 40-man roster.

Stephenson will work in the late innings. He doesn’t have any closing experience, so the Halos could elect to leave last year’s key bullpen pickup, Carlos Estévez, in the ninth inning. The pair of righties should take the bulk of the most important work late in games. García and Cimber will occupy middle relief roles, while Ben Joyce and José Soriano could hold setup jobs.

It’s a high-octane group built around some of the hardest throwers in the sport. Joyce averaged nearly 101 MPH on his heater and famously was clocked as high as 105 MPH in college. Estévez and García sit north of 97 MPH on average. Soriano and Stephenson have upper 90s velocity in their back pocket as well, even if both lean more frequently on their breaking stuff.

New manager Ron Washington should appreciate the stable of power arsenals at his disposal, although the Halos likely need to add another left-hander to the mix. That could put the finishing touch on the bullpen, yet there’s still plenty of work for GM Perry Minasian and his front office.

The Halos haven’t made any acquisitions on the offensive side to compensate for Shohei Ohtani’s departure. That’s also true in the rotation. They’ve looked for ways to add a top-end starter. In addition to scouring the trade market, the Halos have reportedly shown interest in defending NL Cy Young winner Blake Snell.

There should still be plenty of payroll room at their disposal. Roster Resource projected the 2024 player payroll around $153MM before the Stephenson signing. Evenly distributing his salaries pushes that around $164MM. The Halos opened last season with a payroll at roughly $212MM, as calculated by Cot’s Baseball Contracts. They’ll still be almost $50MM shy of that mark. They’re also nowhere near next year’s $237MM base luxury tax threshold. Stephenson’s $11MM average annual value will push the Angels’ projected CBT number to roughly $179MM.

The contract comes in just below MLBTR’s prediction of four years and $36MM. It’s in line with the going rate for high-leverage relievers with some inconsistency in their career track record, as shown on MLBTR’s Contract Tracker. Stephenson’s deal generally aligns with those signed by Taylor Rogers (three years, $33MM), Rafael Montero (three years, $34.5MM), Joe Jiménez (three years, $26.5MM), former Angel Reynaldo López (three years, $30MM) and Jordan Hicks (four years, $44MM) over the last two offseasons.

@Jolly_Olive first reported the Angels and Stephenson had agreed to a three-year deal exceeding $30MM with a 2027 option. Sam Blum of the Athletic reported the $33MM guarantee. Jeff Passan of ESPN reported the $2.5MM conditional option based on Stephenson’s arm health. The Associated Press reported the 130-inning provision and the evenly distributed salaries.

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307 Comments

  1. Cohen's _Wallet

    2 years ago

    Most likely an overpay

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    • pohle

      2 years ago

      no matter what the terms are i agree

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      • Champ world champion Texas Rangers

        2 years ago

        You’ll need to get the first overall pick and disappear for a few years am I’m right or wrong?

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    • Gwynning

      2 years ago

      It’s funny when you say that!

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    • Blue Heron

      2 years ago

      I heard 3 year $36M with an option

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    • bigdaddyt

      2 years ago

      I’m curious what the dollar value is and which contract will work out better this one or the jays signing of Rodriguez

      1
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      • deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger

        2 years ago

        “Rodriguez” is extremely vague, especially in MLB. Which one?

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        • Candy Maldonado

          2 years ago

          …he said Jays. Doesn’t seem vague at all, considering they signed Yariel Rodriguez just two days ago.

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      • Rexhudler86

        2 years ago

        Yariel Rodriguez, I think he’s wanting to start.

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    • aragon

      2 years ago

      So much of an overpay.

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      • stymeedone

        2 years ago

        If he had a history of several years at that level of performance, it would seem appropriate, but for 40 innings…

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        • Franklin Nitty

          2 years ago

          Are you paying him?

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        • Unclemike1525

          2 years ago

          Well I guess he doesn’t want to pitch in the playoffs. Must not thrive under pressure if he went there. They won’t even be able to trade him at those years and that price. Except maybe to the Dodgers.

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        • NJASTROFAN

          2 years ago

          I agree. We seem to be playing with crazy money in MLB these days and rewarding a pitcher to the tune of $11 million per year for 3 years is an extreme overpay. Yet, the Angels are historic is overpaying for players and usually after they have had one good/fair season to justify the payout. Pitching has become so dearth of existence that MLB is willing to throw good money at semi-fair/bad players. And yes, you are paying for that overpay if you go to the stadium and the prices for parking/food/drink/seats and ultimately, your time in watching a mediocore team.

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        • Alexpulido7051 2

          2 years ago

          I agree with the overpay, but I’d say it’s like shopping at a 7-11 when the Supermarket is closed and it’s a necessity like Milk for a baby! Angels need pitching plain and simple and they don’t currently have it

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    • 99CaptainJudge99

      2 years ago

      Another Yankees target gets away. They have spent $0 on free agents in 2024.

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      • Blue Heron

        2 years ago

        Yeah but they still got Juan Soto, so I don’t really feel bad for you lol.

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        • copper ridge

          2 years ago

          You mean Juan “So-So”, as he was called in lo Cal?

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        • tstats

          2 years ago

          Ain’t no way you called it lo cal

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      • Ubaldo Jimenez

        2 years ago

        Wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaah!

        3
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      • holecamels35

        2 years ago

        Didn’t they sign Stroman?

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        • LetTheGoodTimesROFL

          2 years ago

          I know it’s not eye popping but they signed Luke Weaver too.

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      • Chris from NJ

        2 years ago

        I hear you. They aren’t doing much. Gotta like the trade for Soto. And they did sign one free agent Marcus Stroman. I don’t like Stroman at all but I think he has a big chip on his shoulder so I’m thinking one big year out of him before he wants an extension.

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      • JoeBrady

        2 years ago

        Stroman?

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      • Captainmike1

        2 years ago

        Glad the yanks didn’t sign him
        Bring back wandy

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    • Americanentropy

      2 years ago

      Anaheim stinks… they have to overpay for free agents. Hopefully dude has an opt out clause.

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    • nukeg

      2 years ago

      From Gary Matthews Jr to present day Brandon Drury, the Angels love to pay for an outlier year of excellence.

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      • Chris from NJ

        2 years ago

        That’s very true. Zack Kozart,Trevor Cahill and Luis Valbuena same thing. Arte seems to like these type of guys. Average players who have a decent season or 2 and the Angels are the team that doesn’t see it’s an outlier. Although Drury has been decent so far. Lot’s of bad deals handed out under Moreno.

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        • Johnny Bravo

          2 years ago

          Arte Moreno needs to sell the team now who’s going to carry the Angels games? I don’t think we have a Bally’s network Anthony Rendon think 162 games is too long wants to shorten the season
          He could sit on the bench for 162 games I remember Arte Moreno saying I had picked him Anthony Rendon

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    • Pete'sView

      2 years ago

      But at least the guy can pitch. Yankees, Cardinals and a couple other teams wanted him.

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  2. Rexhudler86

    2 years ago

    Well they got another reliever, interested to see What they signed him for.

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    • Plugnplay

      2 years ago

      This was the guy I had on there radar the whole time. I thought he could pitch near Hader’s numbers at half the price. It turns out a little over half the cash, but still a much better buy over Hader. Thumbs up for me! 🙂

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      • TrumboRedux

        2 years ago

        I am stunned that Arte gave the OK on this. Happy though.

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        • prov356

          2 years ago

          Moreno signing a pitcher for three years is almost unheard of.

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  3. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    2 years ago

    Ah ha the Angels are trying to improve their bullpen
    That killed them last year
    Their bullpen sucked

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    • aragon

      2 years ago

      Still does as long as dummies are running the team.

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      • Halo11Fan

        2 years ago

        They have two good pitchers now. Which is two more than they normally have.

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          Hallo11, Darn tootin!!

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Do you know who the other is….. Soriano.

          Soriano doesn’t throw enough strikes, but everything else is red.

          That’s CSW, Swinging Strike %, GB percentage, hard contact. K percentage. I’m not sure anyone else in the pen does three things well.

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    • bluepelotas

      2 years ago

      They should have spent this money on a starter? Or okay if they have a couple moves in place..

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      • Halo11Fan

        2 years ago

        You think they could have gotten a starter better than Silseth for 33 million dollars.

        The Angels greatest need is the pen.

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      • carllafong

        2 years ago

        What are you talking about? They needed two bullpen pieces and this is a good one. The Yankees, Dodgers and multiple others were trying to sign this guy. Now they’ll go get Matt Moore or Chapman for the left side. If they sign Duvall they add another big bat and can then trade from their surplus outfield depth for a starter and they can sign another still available. And then they need one more infielder like Whit Merrifield to bounce around the diamond and steal bags. Add the right two starters and this team suddenly can compete.

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          Merrifield would be awesome!!!!

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    • fre5hwind

      2 years ago

      When you have Aaron Loup what can go right?

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    • Franklin Nitty

      2 years ago

      Haha yea man hilarious.

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  4. raisinsss

    2 years ago

    4/48 is my guess. Based on nothing.

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    • raisinsss

      2 years ago

      If Jolly Olive gets the original scoop, they’d better put me as the one to drop the $/yrs (if I guessed right.)

      “Per a source vaguely familiar with baseball, raisinssss, the contract is for $48 over 4 years if the team option is exercised.”

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    • luclusciano

      2 years ago

      Your noting was something – only $1 mil off in AAV

      1
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  5. Juggy

    2 years ago

    What a waste on a wast of a team

    5
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    • Susannah

      2 years ago

      Wast – archaic past tense second-person singular of BE

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      • SalaryCapMyth

        2 years ago

        You didn’t QUITE copy and paste from the dictionary. >=}

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        • Susannah

          2 years ago

          No QUITE about it. 🙂

          Reply
  6. Dotnet22

    2 years ago

    But can he pitch???? Oh wait, this one can….sorry force of habit.

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  7. troutfishing

    2 years ago

    My mistake readers! “Angels sign Steven Roberto to a minor league deal”
    probably

    3
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  8. M.C.Homer

    2 years ago

    Rattle your SABR’s please

    2
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  9. okbud

    2 years ago

    Let’s see if he can be anywhere near as good as he was in Tampa. If not it’ll just continue the pattern of an ex Rays RP falling off as soon as they leave.

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    • Rishi

      2 years ago

      I see the pattern of Angels signing risky deals. Not that it’s a bad one necessarily but it seems like they always sign deals that could easily go wrong…and they almost always do. Considering they were all in last year they shoulda just kept Iglesias all along probably. Forgot what they got for him tho.

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      • Rexhudler86

        2 years ago

        They got tucker Davidson, and Jesse Chavez. Haha

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        • Rishi

          2 years ago

          I think the organization could somewhat be summed up by that entire scenario. Sign Iglesias (one of the only signings they ever make that probably wasn’t entirely dumb)…trade him for a prospect who turns to nothing and a player who stinks on your team whom you DFA and who goes back to ATL who he is then good for again. Then go all in with a poor relief squad next year and go into the offseason attempting to sure it up. Has bad organization written all over it. Throw in a poor long term $300m deal and that’s the angels.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Rishi, I can’t disagree.

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          Us Halo fans are pretty in tune with how bad we suck. Our expectations haven’t been high for quite some time.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          We have sucked, but I’m looking forward to watching the kids play. And now I don’t have to bring out the Tums after the sixth inning.

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        • Scott Brewer

          2 years ago

          A better way to look at that trade answering the question of, “What did they get for him?”…They received Tucker Davidson, Jesse Chavez, and how money saved on Iglesias the following year was allocated. Eg. Tucker Davidson, Jesse Chavez, Carlos Estevez, and Matt Moore.

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          Or you can say Tyler Anderson for iglesias. I’m not really upset about the return because we traded noe Ramirez for iglesias he was dfa’d after a week in spring training.

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        • Rishi

          2 years ago

          I agree. For a team that spends so much they shouldn’t be in the situation of having to trade Iglesias to save money but that’s the situation they were in so i get that part of it.

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        • Rishi

          2 years ago

          Well I’m putting down the front office and potentially staff. The fans are always the unfortunate ones in these situations. Could’ve been worse than getting to see two of the best players ever on your team tho.

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          Yeah it always comes down to money, and yet people still defend Arte he definitely has a cap. That’s why the gm is forced to get a two for one special. Also why I know the off-season is probably done for the angels. They literally could’ve done the same thing as the dodgers, and been in the same position. Problem was Arte wasn’t willing to make those promises behind closed doors.

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          Rishi, he was botching games for them so bad at one point that they literally lost all faith in him. He imploded at one point. I feel like their hands were tied.

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        • Rishi

          2 years ago

          I get what your saying and I kindof recall it too but it happens all the time with closers. They implode for a couple months. It was likely amplified because they are always so desperate for every win because they are trying to compete with a 500 team. I don’t really care that they traded him but the deal looks a lot better now with what relievers have been getting the last 2 years. They probably saw another albatross contract unfolding and wanted out from it.

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          100% Rishi! Spot on!

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        • nukeg

          2 years ago

          The Angels have an impulsive, unstable owner that put the team up for sale only to pull them back like he was selling his Pokémon collection. Who does that? He reportedly informed the entire org only 24 hours before sending the sale letter.

          Last years deadline spree / prospect dump and then retracting horror show speaks volumes about this instability.

          I feel for Perry and can only hope Ron W brings the character and stability that is so lacking in this organization.

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          Nuke, Well said. I especially hope Wash can get these guys firing on all cylinders. I have no sympathy for Perry though. Every prospective Halo GM should know what they are getting themselves into if serving under o’l Arte.

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          Perry took the job knowing what it included, he will get a second chance regardless like the rest except reagins.

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  10. deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger

    2 years ago

    At this point, I’d rather see Texas overpay and los out yet another guy to a division **rival**

    Screw Bally Sports!!!

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    • DonOsbourne

      2 years ago

      Relax man. I know what you’re saying. You guys have a GREAT team. Your farm system is starting to produce. Don’t worry about winning the offseason. Bullpens are easily improved throughout the season. It’s not always done with high profile guys.

      Bottom line. You guys have a system with players other teams want. And you have an owner who wants to win. Those are the most important facts. Let the other teams burn up their budgets for the sake of “doing something”.

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    • Braves_saints_celts

      2 years ago

      I would target neris or stanek if I were the rangers. Coming from the arch nemesis Astros would help to at least give some insight into how their hitters operate, and they aren’t terrible relievers either.

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      • Rexhudler86

        2 years ago

        Yeah stanek isn’t bad forgot he was a free agent

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  11. This one belongs to the Reds

    2 years ago

    Another one bites the dust.

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  12. Tacoshells

    2 years ago

    Why. Why

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    • metalhead

      2 years ago

      Money. Money.

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    • kasey

      2 years ago

      He’s from Cali too

      2
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  13. BrettPhillips for Prezident

    2 years ago

    The angels just love to sign guys who have had one above average season

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    • ryrockak

      2 years ago

      I mean they have to do something for Mike Trout and the Angels currently aren’t a hotbed for free agents

      1
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      • aragon

        2 years ago

        Perry could sign someone with a little upside. He has been signing everyone with down arrow. When he signed a good one he forced him to pitch 4 seemers for strike-out. Naturally the guy bomed.

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  14. mistborn

    2 years ago

    Market is heating up for relievers finally. Now what’s left though. Neris and then Robertson gets a little thin after that

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    • Rexhudler86

      2 years ago

      Moore is around that tier.

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      • carllafong

        2 years ago

        And Chapman.

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    • Braves_saints_celts

      2 years ago

      Ryne stanek and wandy Peralta are two good options as well

      Reply
  15. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    I knew it!

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    • Juggy

      2 years ago

      Sure ya did

      Reply
    • cpdpoet

      2 years ago

      Well according to darkside, as long as it wasn’t Philly, he’s happy 😉
      Depending on the dollar amount – maybe I am as well?

      My 2 cents, if I were to have had the same career and was faced with free agency – the biggest amount would get my signature – period. After all, dude is 30y w/ 6 yrs service time. This deal guarantees 9yrs with an option? And some pretty hefty dollars (probably)
      Good for him.

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      • For Love of the Game

        2 years ago

        Yeah, I don’t know what the Angels were thinking, but good for Stephens.

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          They were thinking the same thing the Yankees, Dodgers and half of baseball was thinking– this 30-year old first round pick and former starter with a big arm figured it out and was among the best bargains on the market. Tampa changed his grip and his sequencing and usage. He hits 98– so this isn’t a soft tosser who just got lucky. He was lights out dominant after Tampa worked their magic.

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  16. dantheman1997

    2 years ago

    They need to invest in pitching. I feel like they never throw money at pitching.

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    • TrumboRedux

      2 years ago

      Dan97, They haven’t. Not for the last 11 years at least.

      2
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    • mlbnyyfan

      2 years ago

      Cashman has been asleep all f ing day. First Hader and now this.

      2
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      • aragon

        2 years ago

        This one is not worth to mention.

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      • Braves_saints_celts

        2 years ago

        They are still in on neris per report, but idk if that’d be the best route to take. Sign back wandy Peralta, who has been a dang good reliever for y’all and has pitched 3 straight years with an era under 3. Screw the advanced metrics, he knows how to pitch in New York, and out of all the teams he’s played for, the Yankees made him good at pitching.

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  17. dave frost nhlpa

    2 years ago

    For what?
    Best thing he could do would be to fail his physical.

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    • Susannah

      2 years ago

      Probably for money.

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      • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

        2 years ago

        Not that kind of money!

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    • aragon

      2 years ago

      Dearly hope so. But then Minasian will say “We have 2 more years.”

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    • carllafong

      2 years ago

      This is the funniest comment I’ve seen here in awhile. LOL

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  18. Rexhudler86

    2 years ago

    I’ll take that over signing minor league guys. I’m scared about the price tag, but it’s looking like the market is dropping.

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      Rex, this is a great pickup.

      Some people are commenting and are completely clueless. No one misses bats better. He’s one of the best BP arms in the game,

      1 in CSW and Swinging Strike pct. WOW!

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      • Ubaldo Jimenez

        2 years ago

        For three months*

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          Four months! Get it right! But truly, this is a very good pickup. Dodgers, Yankees and and half the teams were in on this guy. he’s for real. His problem was pitch selection and sequencing. The Angels upgrade in coaching should continue his success. One more top grade reliever and we might be able to persuade a top starter to sign?

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        • 1984wasntamanual

          2 years ago

          Being in on someone and being in on someone at this price is not the same thing.

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      • Rexhudler86

        2 years ago

        I like the move. Finally we have three solid back of the bullpen pieces, cimber somewhere in mix. The rest is open competition.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Who is the third?

          The only thing Joyce has shown is a fastball. Estevez can’t throw strikes, can’t keep the ball on the ground and allows hard contact….horrible combination.

          So who is the third?

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          Garcia.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          He’s very good allowing ground balls. He has ok control, and he’s bad at everything else.

          He allows a lot of hard contact and doesn’t miss bats.

          These types of bullpen arms are volatile. They depend a lot on luck.

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          Still think without loup, barria, Davidson, tepera, The bullpen is better than last year.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          If you pitched, it would be better than last year.

          I like two.

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          Soriano

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Carl…I mentioned him and listed why I like him.

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          What if the Angels sign Hector Neris.? Robertson? Even Chapman or Moore? That would suddenly be a very nice pen.

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          I’m not disagreeing, but I’m sure the angels are done with the pen.

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          I’m sure 5 spots are locked estevez, garcia, Stephenson, cimber and Soriano. It’s really not that bad.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          One more pen guy who does the things I’ve listed would be nice.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          I don’t think you realize how mediocre at best Estevez and Garcia are.

          As far as Cimber. Total wild card.

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          I realize that. They need to let the players in the system play. Cimber/ kolarek can be released, most likely kolarek is in triple a and a call up if needed. Also Just being realistic Arte is hesitant to go over the first tax, he did that for ohtani and immediately sent everyone to waivers to get under when the season was lost. Just saying it’s highly unlikely I didn’t even expect this signing

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        • lesterdnightfly

          2 years ago

          Who needs a great pen when the team never holds a lead?

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        • BetterHaloFan

          2 years ago

          Came here specifically to see what you’d say lol who would you like to see them add most?

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          Probably talking to halo11 but I wouldn’t mind stanek.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Stanek doesn’t do too many things well. And he’s an extreme fly ball pitcher and allows a ton of hard contact.

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        • M.C.Homer

          2 years ago

          Lester, huh?
          Because the bullpen were the ones giving up leads and losing games. Last 2 years would have been way different if those late game leads not blown

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Didn’t the Angels blow 8 games the first month of the season? That’s not counting the games the Angels lost because the pen was out pitched in close games.

          These clowns don’t know the first thing about the Angels.

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        • M.C.Homer

          2 years ago

          Halo, I lost count. Over the course of the season double that? Maybe more? Even when they did hold leads it was like watching your rope shred and get down to a few fibers while hanging off the side of El Capitan.

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          Sorry, I must be getting old.

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          Reporting is they are going hard for Dodgers’ Brasier. I don’t think they’re done there.

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          I feel like he would be in the price range, perry has been signing a lot of guys that throw gas or atleast his significant ones. I’m just going off his body of work, hasn’t been bad or not the level of bad the angels have had

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        • Rexhudler86

          2 years ago

          Most of it was loup, tepera and Davidson. I guess hergert was bad as well you could list the whole bullpen if you take a deep dive

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      • CeruleanDrew

        2 years ago

        Yes, for 3 months. So very small sample size. Don’t get me wrong as I like Stephenson. But those 3 months reflect his working with Kyle Snyder and KS isn’t following him to Anaheim. But good for Bob that he maximized his earnings for those stellar 3 months.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          That’s why you look at tools. Tools typically are not volatile. RPs typically don’t have the tools. They are full of warts. The ones with few warts tend to be good for long periods of time. At least until the tools fade.

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  19. deGrom/Langford Texas Ranger

    2 years ago

    Jolly Olive is a real source? That’s a random tweeter. Lol

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    • acoss13

      2 years ago

      He works with Jomboy Media so this one has some legs to it. I’m surprised the author didn’t specify where he works at.

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  20. Buzzz Killington

    2 years ago

    Angels making more stupid moves.

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      Buzz, you have no clue.

      He’s number one in baseball at CSW% and Swinging strike percentage. Third in K%.

      If people don’t know who he is, they don’t follow baseball.

      Wow, what a great add.

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      • Ubaldo Jimenez

        2 years ago

        For three months*

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      • carllafong

        2 years ago

        A really great add. And this gives me hope that they might do more than we think. Adding Duvall would be an offense upgrade and look good in that lineup. Add a Whit Merrifield and Justin Turner and suddenly that offense is very deep 1-9.

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    • aragon

      2 years ago

      Unfortunately, you are right.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      2 years ago

      What is it with Perry Miniasian and his obsession with creating mid-tier bullpens?? (That end up being less than mid-tier). Every offseason lately seems to be filled with Perry adding middle-inning relievers via free agency. But have you noticed how Perry’s bullpens end up pretty bad, year after year? Those rumors about Perry being unable to put together a baseball roster might be true after all.

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      • TrumboRedux

        2 years ago

        ISOB, Mid-tier GM’s create mid-tier bullpens. Lol Hope I helped!

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      • M.C.Homer

        2 years ago

        Iggy,
        Probably more than half the problem is there are limited free agents who would consider signing here now.

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        • Plugnplay

          2 years ago

          MC, this is a terrible narrative that’s not true. Show them the money and they’ll go anywhere they would like to live. The O.C. is just a terrible place to live when u have cash. Hahaha

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        • M.C.Homer

          2 years ago

          Plug, Yeah. I’m laughing at the folks walking around in parkas this morning at 58°

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        • M.C.Homer

          2 years ago

          I’m near 405/22 junction. We’ve only seen the 30s like twice this winter.

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        • M.C.Homer

          2 years ago

          Trout seems to like it here…
          But not Shohei

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  21. Yanks2

    2 years ago

    Never heard of him

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    • raisinsss

      2 years ago

      It’d have taken less effort to google him than it did to type this.

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      • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

        2 years ago

        No, that would be Robert L. Stephenson. This is a different Stephenson.

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      • Yanks2

        2 years ago

        Not really because then I’d have to exit the app and search and then scroll to read who he is

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    • DCartrow

      2 years ago

      He wrote Kidnapped and Treasure Island

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      • Candlestoked

        2 years ago

        Now tell me how an author who died ages ago is qualified to pitch in the MLB. Must have friends in high places!

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  22. pbuchman

    2 years ago

    His career spans vacillations between pitching dominance and extreme hitability. Kind of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde thing.

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  23. benhen77

    2 years ago

    Jolly Olive is breaking news now? Step aside, Passan!

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    • mlb1225

      2 years ago

      Nice to see him being credited! I’ve been watching his vids since he was at like 5K subscribers on YouTube.

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      • raisinsss

        2 years ago

        Who is he?

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        • mlb1225

          2 years ago

          YouTuber who does videos on baseball, works for JomBoy Media. Makes some good content to watch if you love baseball.

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        • thebaseballfanatic

          2 years ago

          Jolly brings back so many memories for me. I was his first ever YouTube stream moderator, and I remember watching a video of his on Cedric Mullins (I believe about bunting?) a few years back (he had ~1000 subscribers) and proclaimed that he was going to blow up (which he did!). Unfortunately, I think he’s since deleted the video, but I still remember the few interactions/comments we had together! He’s a great guy and it’s been cool to see him grow into a larger role in baseball content (even though I had to explain to my family that watching the stream of a random “small” baseball channel was being done for my own personal enjoyment and wasn’t a waste of time)!

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  24. raisinsss

    2 years ago

    Dude since when are we looking at Jolly Olive as a reputable source?

    Is he on a plane to LA or something?

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    • M.C.Homer

      2 years ago

      A Molly Jolly works for the Angels.
      Not kidding

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  25. aragon

    2 years ago

    Foolish Minasian fell for another walk-year heroics. Especially at the Rays. What a moron!

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  26. Halo11Fan

    2 years ago

    It’s not an overpay. The Angels desperately needed him. He can’t keep the ball on the ground, but he’s great at getting called strikes, great at preventing hard contact, great at missing bats, great at swinging strike pct, good at throwing strikes.

    He makes a huge difference.

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    • Ubaldo Jimenez

      2 years ago

      For three months of his career*

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      • Halo11Fan

        2 years ago

        You mean he wasn’t great in Cincinnati and Colorado?

        Shocking.

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        • Braves_saints_celts

          2 years ago

          Great? No. Good? Yes. But his career has been so up and down you don’t know what y’all will get. 38 innings in Tampa bay made him one of the top paid releiver options in the majors. There’s just as much chance he reverts back to his Pittsburgh form than there is that he repeats his Tampa bay form. Oh and didn’t the Rockies release him or trade him to the pirates because of how bad he was doing? And then the same from the pirates to the rays, because of how bad he was doing? You are the only one on here singing absolute praise for him, when there is a good chance he isn’t worth anything near this kind of money.

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        • Tim Stewart

          2 years ago

          “You are the only one on here singing absolute praise for him, when there is a good chance he isn’t worth anything near this kind of money” This very sight projected a higher pay than he got. That was at the start of the off season. He is in no way THE ONLY ONE.

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        • Plugnplay

          2 years ago

          Tim, u missed it on this one. I believe the vast majority of Angels fans praise this signing.

          BTW, his contract projection was pretty much on par with what he got. A little higher avv, but a little less guarantee.

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        • rocky7

          2 years ago

          80% of relievers are up and down as far as success…the truly elite guys make up a minority but are able to year after year continue their success with little change….will this guy continue his success or fall back into that 80% category…..time will tell but with the Angels he certainly is going to get some innings for sure……

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      • carllafong

        2 years ago

        The guy throws 97. He switched from relying on his FB to throwing his breaking ball 75% of the time. His issue was sequencing and usage. Tampa and the Dodgers are the best at teaching pitchers what is effective. Everyone was after this guy in a big way– including Yankees and Dodgers. Shocked the Angels landed him.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          RPs are up and down because of how little they pitch.

          Take Garcia and Estevez. Garcia allows hard contact, keeps the ball on the ground, and doesn’t miss bats. When those balls are hit at fielders, you can have a long stretch of success. But it’s not sustainable, thus the volatility over prolonged stretches.

          Estevez allows hard contact, has poor control, and fly balls. When the balls stay in the park, and his Ks overcome his control. He can have stretches off success, but it’s not sustainable.

          Most RPs don’t have the tools for sustained success. The tools shown by Stephenson last year, if brought forward this year, will almost undoubtedly lead to success.

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  27. VonPurpleHayes

    2 years ago

    5 years…yeesh.

    Well…Phillies…now what?

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    • TrumboRedux

      2 years ago

      3 years, Von, but why split hairs!!

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  28. Rsox

    2 years ago

    “Take that, Astros!”

    -Perry Minasian…

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  29. THEY LIVE!!!

    2 years ago

    This is a good one!!

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      I agree They Live.

      You can have a lot of flukey stats that are just noise, but #1 in swinging strike pct and #1 in CSW, and #3 in KRate are not flukey stats.

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  30. RobM

    2 years ago

    “Stephenson was the top remaining free agent reliever once Josh Hader came off the board.”
    ——

    Neris? Robertson?

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      I’d take Stephenson.

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    • carllafong

      2 years ago

      Either works, but Robertson can close and is clutch. If the Angels land him their bullpen suddenly is a strength.

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      • M.C.Homer

        2 years ago

        So who is the closer now guys?

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          It looks like Estevez. I do think the Angels overused him last year and it caught up to him. Pitched him three days in a row. Brought him in during the 8th to get a five out save. He wore down. If they have enough arms that won’t happen. They need another reliable veteran arm in that pen. Braiser, Neris, Robertson. That means from the 6th inning on teams are in trouble. Joyce, Soriano, Garcia in the 6th. Stephenson, a Neris or a Brasier and Estevez 7-9. They would suddenly have a lockdown bullpen. And we don’t know if Bachman goes to triple -A to be a starter, but that’s another 98MPH arm that could potentially be in that pen, as well as Zach Plesac if he figures things out.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Estevez path was typical of RPs with limited tools.

          He started off well, was promoted when those higher in the pecking order failed, was promoted, did well for a while, then failed because he was promoted based on a mirage.

          This happens EVERY year. I’m surprised how many fans don’t understand this.

          Estevez checks very few boxes. Pitchers who allow hard with poor control, and fly balls, are not going to be consistently successful.

          When they are, it’s a mirage.

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  31. RobM

    2 years ago

    Jolly Olive is part of the growing Jomboy Media empire, formed by a Yankee fan because he could read lips.

    This news will not make you feel any younger.

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  32. Joe Robbins

    2 years ago

    I think it’s great that the Angels were able to sign a free agent that actually gives them hope in cleaning up a real problem area for them. Quite a few teams will have blown save issues during the season. My Cardinals will probably be one of them.. You can’t quit trying to get better. Congratulations Angels.

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    • octavian8

      2 years ago

      The Angels is the unicorn of MLB. An owner that’s willing to spend but GM’s not knowing how to spend wisely.

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  33. solaris602

    2 years ago

    Does this diminish the chances they bring Aaron Loup back? 😉 Or maybe Stephenson will ultimately be the righty version of Loup?

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  34. MacGromit

    2 years ago

    I wonder if anyone has clued John Angelos in on the fact that you can acquire a pitcher to help your team by using just money. It’s such an innovative thing.

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  35. Murphy NFLD

    2 years ago

    So 10 a year for 3 years and a 3 mil buy-out on a 10-12 mil option year maybe

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  36. acoss13

    2 years ago

    It’s not bad, and it’s 3 years 33 million so it’s not like this bogs down payroll. If he does falter after the first year, it doesn’t look as bad as Rendon’s contract. Hopefully he does well.

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    • DonOsbourne

      2 years ago

      I also hope he does well. I hope he takes what the Rays taught him and continues to dominate. But, if he doesn’t, you can’t lower the bar by comparing it to the disaster of Rendon.

      Generally speaking, I think paying a premium for relievers is like drafting running backs in the first round in the NFL. You can believe your guy is “special” and deserves it. But there will be 8-10 guys put up similar numbers who required much less of an investment.

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      • acoss13

        2 years ago

        You make a good point Don. It was just me trying to soften the blow some if he doesn’t pan out. That Rendon contract just sucks…

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  37. urnuts

    2 years ago

    I heard it was $1,000,000 and the rest deferred starting 2035. That is how we do it in LA.

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  38. @DaOldDerbyBastard

    2 years ago

    Huge overpay.

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    • radhippo

      2 years ago

      Huge? Pump the brakes

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      • @DaOldDerbyBastard

        2 years ago

        No.

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  39. Americanentropy

    2 years ago

    ok, now what about LF, RF, 1B, and 2B?

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    • carllafong

      2 years ago

      Trout goes to left. Duvall to center if he signs. Moniak in right. Ward is traded. Adell is the 4th outfielder.

      Schanuel plays first. Sign Justin Turner or Rhys Hoskins to play against lefties and DH

      Second goes to Whit Merrifield.

      The sign Clevinger and RYU as starters.

      All within budget and a solid team.

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      • Rsox

        2 years ago

        Most of those things probably won’t happen.

        The Angels have no LH power in their lineup yet recently they have only been linked to RH hitters (Teoscar Hernandez, Kiki Hernandez, Adam Duvall).

        Instead of Clevinger Minasian signed his partner in crime Plesac, which will likely be the only rotation addition

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        • Plugnplay

          2 years ago

          Rsox, with this signing, I can kind of see a snail creeping up the 5 freeway. Just hope he stops, and doesn’t continue north on I5.

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          He better stop near Disneyland! Any further would be too far a crawl for a Snell..I mean Snail!!

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          Well, who knows what will actually happen? I’m saying what they should do or could do to be a wild card team. The reporting is that they are in a bidding war with your Sox over Duvall– so that is certainly a possibility. It was also reported last night that they are very much in the thick of things for Bellinger and Snell. That would give them a surplus of outfielders to trade from to add a starter or add to their pen. Adding those three players and another bullpen arm will make this team very good and very deep.

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        • Plugnplay

          2 years ago

          I agree Carl, I don’t believe u make this sign and then stand pat. I don’t think they’ll sign all the players u suggested, but I definitely could see them signings there #1 need now in Snell. They’ll also add a bat somewhere in the mix to.

          Most would agree Snell, Turner, and a Moore reunion would be perfect, and let’s play ball. All while not giving up on any young talent. The fastest way to build up there minor league talent is to spend, and not trade any. The Dodgers did this at record pace, but don’t expect the Angels to go to that cash extreme.

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        • outinleftfield

          2 years ago

          There is a HUGE disparity between the Angel’s needs and what Arte will actually do.

          One thing we know for certain he won’t do is sign a pitcher to a deal longer than 3 years. Snell wants 7 or more.

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        • RyÅnWKrol

          2 years ago

          Mickey Moniak hit 14 HR in 85 games. Luis Rengifo hit 16 HR in 126 games, and he had 17 HR in 2022, so he can easily hit 20 if he was healthy enough. Even Matt Thaiss hit 9 HR in 95 games, which is good enough for a catcher. Angels have plenty of LH pop. They need bench depth.

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        • outinleftfield

          2 years ago

          So you are saying that the only thing that matters in baseball is HR and you think that Moniak, who struck out 35% of the time and had a .397 BABip can repeat those numbers?

          Angels need actual good players. Moniak is not one.

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      • lesterdnightfly

        2 years ago

        “Solid team”? More like diarrhea of the roster.

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          Margaret Cho– is that you?

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      • prov356

        2 years ago

        Carl – I’d rather trade Adell than Moniak. Moniak has shown flashes of ability where Adell has not figured anything out yet.

        “All within budget and a solid team.”

        There’s the luxury tax budget and there’s the Moreno budget. and they are vastly different if you track the Angels payroll for the past several years. The last two years were Moreno’s idea of a push to win only because Ohtani was on the table. But his standard budget is between 170m and 180m historically.

        I am shocked he allowed a three year pitcher deal so maybe he will surprise us still with more payroll.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Neither Moniak or Adell will be any good with those peripherals.

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          The payroll tax is being raised, but the tax on whatever they would go over is minimal. I do think Moreno doesn’t like being laughed at– and the baseball world is. Losing Ohtani and not getting anything is an embarrassment. With the increase in salaries 170-180M won’t get it done. No way they can compete for a wild card when teams like the Yankees are pressing toward $400M. Look at the Dodger payroll? The revenue is there and I think pride will step in. Don’t be surprised if the Angels make another bullpen signing, wind up with Duvall, Bellinger and Snell. They can then trade from their surplus of outfielders. Even now they have to figure out what to do with Suarez and Anderson– is there room for both in that pen?

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        • prov356

          2 years ago

          I agree Carl. Moreno struggles between being prideful and being cheap as it relates to valuing a pitching staff.

          Even as payrolls increased, the Angels remained in the 170m to 180m range until the last 2 years. Ohtani is gone so currently we are right back in that same range.

          I wouldn’t mind seeing Bellinger on the team but only after pitching is fully addressed. I think I read that Snell declined a lucrative 7 year offer because he wanted more years. Moreno will not sign a pitcher for 8+ years. However, this three year deal surprised me so maybe…

          I don’t think Suarez should be on a major league baseball team. We’ll see which Anderson we get this year. Someone has to go to make room for Stephenson.

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        • outinleftfield

          2 years ago

          Adell has no value, but Moniak put up a season that appeared to be a good one. It was a complete mirage as he struck out 35% of the time and had a totally unsustainable .397 BABip, but maybe someone will take him for a reliever or two.

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        • outinleftfield

          2 years ago

          Snell turned down 5 years and $150 million from the Yankees.

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      • outinleftfield

        2 years ago

        Sign Bellinger. Trout to LF. Ward in RF with Adell as 4th OF. Would not mind Duvall in LF and Trout in RF.

        Trade Moniak. He is a mirage with his 35% K rate and .397 BABip.

        1B. Schanuel
        2B Drury
        UT Rengifo – he has been better than Merrifield and is 8 years younger and will be cheaper.

        Sign Justin Turner to DH and play 3B when Rendon is inevitably out.

        Ryu has 17 starts and 79 IP over the last 2 season. Not sure I would want him unless he is really cheap. Something like a $16-17 million drop from his 2023 salary.

        Bring back moore

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        • Johnny Bravo

          2 years ago

          Rendon Think 162 games is too long. He thinks they should shorten the season. He sure loves this game does he?

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        • outinleftfield

          2 years ago

          Minasian brought back Moore today.

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  40. jhomeslice

    2 years ago

    Are the Angels making any attempt at competing? This hardly offsets the loss of Ohtani in a meaningful way. The were 15 games out of third place even with Ohtani, and aren’t going to finish higher than 4th again unless they follow up with Snell and Bellinger. Probably not even then. Why bother.

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    • radhippo

      2 years ago

      Excellent comparison

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    • carllafong

      2 years ago

      This signing would signal they do plan to compete– as does the reporting that they want Snell and Bellinger. Have to see all they do now with this signing before we tear them apart.

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  41. Jordan 5

    2 years ago

    If Moreno signs him he’s either going to get hurt or get shelled and turn into another bad contract. Good job arte. Sell the team

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  42. Salzilla

    2 years ago

    So are like the interns making these minor moves for the Yankees today? Is Cashman on vacation? Because someone should authorize those interns to get some bullpen help like asap. Stock is flying off the shelf today!

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  43. Castiglione

    2 years ago

    Always rooting for this hometown guy, thought he turned a corner, but clearly headed the wrong direction going to the Angels, $$$ will do that I’ll have to assume

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  44. aussiegiants53

    2 years ago

    If he holds up his numbers, he will be a nice trade chip for the Angels come the deadline. The Angels certainly aren’t going to be in the mix

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  45. ddlz

    2 years ago

    I feel bad for Angels fans. You just already know this is going to end badly because it’s a deal that the Angels made.

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    • carllafong

      2 years ago

      Keen logic and insight.

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      • ddlz

        2 years ago

        It’s almost an unarguable fact. Vernon Wells, Albert Pujols, CJ Wilson, Josh Hamilton, and these are just deals from over 10 years ago. The only good deals in the past 15 years were Mike Trout and Ohtani.

        Eduardo Escobar, Mike Moustakas, Randal Grichuck, CJ Cron more recently all bad trades/deals. Lucas Giolito. Hunter Renfro. Tyler Anderson. Who is the 3rd baseman who doesn’t play and can’t hit anymore when he does play? Guy is so irrelevant now I can’t even remember what his name was on the Nationals.

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        • ddlz

          2 years ago

          It’s funny because I haven’t even mentioned anybody in the past 12 years. I’d be here all night listing bad deals. You can pretty much point to any deal they’ve made besides Trout and Ohtani since 2011. Being an Angels fan is heartbreaking I’m sure but at least they aren’t uhhhh … the pirates? Idk.

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          Didlz, In the scheme of teams that they are NOT, the A’s will sadly always be #1.

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        • ddlz

          2 years ago

          @TrumboRedux That’s fair

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        • TrumboRedux

          2 years ago

          Didlz, and I don’t mean it as a nasty dig at Oakland. The angels spend crazy amounts of $ and get nowhere, as opposed to Oak who spends none and still gets nowhere unfortunately. It’s just that they are polar opposites.

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        • lesterdnightfly

          2 years ago

          Which team is looking up now, the Angels or the PIrates?
          I say Pirates, easy.

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        • carllafong

          2 years ago

          We all know what has happened, but are we supposed to never try to compete again? Maybe Stephenson’s arm falls off, Washington goes into rehab, and Trout demands to be traded, but for today, just today can we enjoy the fact we scored a very good arm with elite numbers last year and that the Yankees and Dodgers were both trying very hard to land?

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        • Eatdust666

          2 years ago

          Anthony Rendon, who they signed because they were desperate to make a big move after losing out on Gerrit Cole and World Series MVP Stephen Strasburg.

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        • RyÅnWKrol

          2 years ago

          Actually it’s not heartbreaking because that’s how baseball works. I’ve been watching the Angels since 1989 and also paying attention to what the Dodgers do since then. Right before their current run, they had 24 year period where they traded away talented youth including Pedro, made a lot of bad deals, lost Mike Piazza, ownership that didn’t get it, and they just couldn’t figure it out. There was even a time when the Dodgers were mostly a losing team before the 1940s and it took 65 years (since joining the NL) to win their first championship. Every Major League franchise has had its woes. Even the Yankees were mostly dormant from 1965-1994. Angels went from a losing team in the 1960s and early to mid 70s to a somewhat perennial contender throughout the 80s, then back and forth in the 1990s to a perennial contender in the 2000s, and so on. Angels aren’t much different than more than half the league. This just happens to be one of those lull periods every fan who watches baseball long enough will see their team go through. That’s just baseball.

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  46. Silver Boot Series Enjoyer

    2 years ago

    It’s a bird. It’s a plane. No! It’s Ohtani’s replacement!!

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    • Plugnplay

      2 years ago

      Yup, he’s 1 of a half dozen guys to replace Ohtani at 33m. They only have 667m left to spend to replace him.. hahaha!

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  47. kellin

    2 years ago

    I know he’s been mentioned once or twice already but seriously why is Moore still not signed? He pitched really well last season.

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  48. JackStrawb

    2 years ago

    3/$33m for THAT guy?

    Oh, Angels. This is not how you become relevant.

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  49. outinleftfield

    2 years ago

    All the holes in the Angels roster and Minasian spends $11 million AAV on a reliever?

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    • prov356

      2 years ago

      Where would you have spent it?

      Reply
      • outinleftfield

        2 years ago

        Bellinger to play CF. Move Trout to a corner. Trade Moniak while he still seems to be worth something for relievers.

        Sign Justin Turner to DH and play 3B while Rendon is out with whatever injury makes him miss 1/2 or more of 2024.

        Bring back Matt Moore. Would cost 1/2 that in AAV on a 1 or 2 year deal

        No need to spend $11 million on a reliever.

        Where would you have spent it? .

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        • prov356

          2 years ago

          Pitching.

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  50. Whiskey and leather balls

    2 years ago

    Lol…when you only sign for the money….but who can blame him.

    Reply
    • Whiskey and leather balls

      2 years ago

      Best they can hope for is one excellent year outta those 3, his track record should allow for that and they d*mn well better trade him at that point what good is a solid bullpen arm at 11 mill per on the 4th place team in the west?….coming from all the others who passed at that $$

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      • Plugnplay

        2 years ago

        Who knows who passed on what. This is what every F/A does. They go to the team that pays them a little more, and or an extra year. There’s nothing new here, let’s move along.

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  51. Rishi

    2 years ago

    Whether he was “the top reliever left” is highly debatable btw. Maybe true but quite bias sounding.

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  52. SCOTTG3

    2 years ago

    Huge overpay to get him to go to a team destined to not reach the playoffs yet again.

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    • radhippo

      2 years ago

      Nice little cry

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  53. Get Off My Mound

    2 years ago

    Nice seeing Jolly Olive getting some love.

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  54. radhippo

    2 years ago

    Solid addition. He’ll fit nicely with Estavez. About time the Pear did something impactful.

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  55. ayeah

    2 years ago

    Once again, the rumor articles leading up to a deal is wrong and the unknown mystery (or lessor) team makes the deal!

    Why does anyone waste their time reading those articles of X team, or X team and X team are talking (or interested in) X player.

    90% of the time those teams don’t sign the player.

    In point, yesterday morning’s (16 hours ago) headline article was… Mets, Phillies interested in Robert Stephenson. As usual, headline wrong, (4 hours ago) Angels sign him.

    Writers will just write whatever will sell to those big market teams (Yankees, Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Red Sox) fans to make money. They have about as much clue as to who really is going to sign the player as somebody on the street that has no interest in the sport. It’s all about catching your attention to get you to read their article and make them some money reading their articles.

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      The article also said the Angels were pursuing him. Read more than just the headlines. Those were likely the most recent contacts, but the Angels were always tied to him.

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      • ayeah

        2 years ago

        My point is writers give headlines to lure people into reading their articles to make money.

        They don’t make a cent if no one reads their article.

        Do you really think a single Mets or Phillies fan would have clicked on the article to read it if it said the Angels, Mariners or Tigers were pursuing Stephenson. I think not.

        Being a Phillies fan, I was 100% certain they were not pursuing Stephenson. So, there was absolutely no reason to give the writer the glory of their article making money on the advertisers of the article by clicking on the money grab article to read something about a headline that was not true.

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        • Plugnplay

          2 years ago

          Ayeah, each is there own thou, but I somewhat agree with your rant. I myself won’t even click on my own teams F/A rumors, if it doesn’t make sense, especially if it’s a trade rumor. Hints all the Trout trade BS, there so, so tiresome. Once again, each is there own, click away, it’s just not me.

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      • Slow day at work

        2 years ago

        I don’t think people understand how MLBTR operates. They just compile tweets, statements and press releases into a post. They aren’t the ones tying the players to the teams, they just pass along these “rumors” to us. And because big markets usually have more reporters, there are going to be more of these “rumors” available than from smaller market teams

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  56. bobsugar84

    2 years ago

    Is Stevenson better than Neris?

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    • bobsugar84

      2 years ago

      Stephenson. Sorry.

      Obviously going by what he did in TB he is. But not the best track record. I guess Neris can give up a few too many gopher balls but he was pretty stellar for Houston last year.

      I’d probably go Stephenson and hope he can duplicate the success but the Angels tend to find a way to mess it up.

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      • TrumboRedux

        2 years ago

        Bob, Good question for a POLL if they have a live chat soon!

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      • rocky7

        2 years ago

        Other than 42 games with the Rays, this guy has been very ordinary at best…..a typical buyer beware when his breakout season, or part season, is still in the front mirror while the balance of his career is a highway of broken dreams…..

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    • LordD99

      2 years ago

      He could be, but it’s Anthony’s certainty that Stephenson was the best remaining reliever that I find interesting. Without saying it directly, he basically outlines later in his post why he might not be. He’s in his early 30s, has an up-and-down career record, and his brilliance in 2023 was limited to 40 innings. He wouldn’t be the first Ray to lose his magic when moving to a new club, or simply be the latest reliever that had a nice run on his way to a career year.

      That aside, there was a notable change that led to his peak performance. That would make me more comfortable in believing it can be repeated. Still, he’s a reliever. It’s a volatile class of pitchers. There’s risk here.

      I probably would have written that he was one of the top relievers after Hader signed, but not gone so far as to declare he’s the best remaining.

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      • bobsugar84

        2 years ago

        Ya, that’s why I posed the question. Best remaining was interesting to me. He probably is, but I wouldn’t call it a slam dunk.

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      • rocky7

        2 years ago

        “Up and down career”….not so LordDgg…other than 42 games, which wasn’t even his full walk season, he’s been extremely pedestrian and nothing too merit either the years or $dollars the Angels just spent……we’ll see if he has discovered something he can repeat.

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      Yes. Stephenson is better. A lot better.

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      • rocky7

        2 years ago

        Better hope that last 42 games can be repeated and he isn’t the pitcher of the other 231….

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  57. LordD99

    2 years ago

    Arte banking on the changes Stephenson made after joining the Rays are repeatable and sustainable for the next three years.

    Maybe.

    Maybe not.

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    • rocky7

      2 years ago

      42 games of success and 231 of mediocre accomplishment…..can you teach an old dog new tricks or just be a little more successful hiding his faults as maybe the Rays did……how many critical situations did he pitch in, how many mop ups when either the Rays were way ahead or behind and he other team was just trying to get to the post game spread….get my drift!

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      • Slow day at work

        2 years ago

        From the article:
        “It’s not hard to pinpoint a reason for that excellence. Before he went to Tampa Bay, he paired a near-97 MPH four-seam fastball with a mid-80s slider. With the Rays, he leaned mostly on an upper-80s breaking ball that Statcast classifies as a cutter. Opponents couldn’t do anything with that pitch. They swung through it nearly three-fifths of the time and hit .101 in 79 at-bats. By the season’s final month, he was using the pitch at a near-75% clip.”
        Seem like a case of teaching an old dog new tricks, not the other.

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        • Halo11Fan

          2 years ago

          Slow day, as I think you pointed out, this isn’t a fluke.

          #1 in CSW and swinging strike percentages are not fluke stats.

          Relying on soft contact or ground ball hit at fielders are fluke stats.

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  58. meckert

    2 years ago

    Don’t understand the infatuation with this guy. He’s 30 and has a lifetime 4.67 ERA. Good for him, he got paid but he’s just another warm body, certainly not hidden treasure.

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      Because no one in baseball missed bats at a greater frequency. It wasn’t even close. Bautista was second and he was so far behind GPS would be needed to find him.

      Add good control and the avoidance of hard contact and you have sensational tools.

      He added a pitch in TB. Last year that pitch was the best in baseball. I don’t think it’s going away.

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      • rocky7

        2 years ago

        Ah the analytics…..guess you forget the other innings of 2023 where he stunk, and the previous 231 games where he was mediocre at best….you make this guy sound like Cy Young incarnate….better hope he is……

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      • Halo11Fan

        2 years ago

        Rocky. Why do you even reply?

        No… I don’t forget, But you pay a lot of attention Colorado and Cincinnati. And very little. To what he accomplished with a pitch change.

        You are not number 1 in CSW and Swinging Strike pct by fluke or luck.

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  59. cinredsfan

    2 years ago

    This is why the Angel’s are losers.
    I’ve watched BOBSTEVE come up thru the Reds organization. Terrible attitude and work ethic. Cut him now and eat the 33 million. Most ignorant signing this decade!

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    • lesterdnightfly

      2 years ago

      As ignorant as using apostrophes in plurals?

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      • JoeBrady

        2 years ago

        He’s had about 4 good months in his career. And part of those four good months was a BABIP of .197. He has a live arm, but a lot could go wrong.

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        • rocky7

          2 years ago

          right on Joe……a lot can go right but more can go wrong…..he’s got a previous 231 games of a mediocre career hanging over his head as compared to the last 42…..

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    • RyÅnWKrol

      2 years ago

      Because the Reds are such a consistent contender.

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    • outinleftfield

      2 years ago

      What is interesting to me is that since he left the Great American Bandbox and the Reds organization he has a 3.97 ERA and 114 ERA+ including a stint in Denver. Everywhere else he has been better than league average..

      Maybe the problem was the Reds?

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  60. RedFraggle

    2 years ago

    Jolly Olive with the scoop!

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  61. raulp

    2 years ago

    This is definitely the best offseason to be a free agent pitcher.

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  62. HalosHeavenJJ

    2 years ago

    Buying high with numbers that can’t possibly be replicated is the Angel way.

    Let’s hope he regresses to really good as opposed to the way Tyler Anderson regressed after losing good coaching and video.

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    • Slow day at work

      2 years ago

      I think part of Anderson’s failure was being part of a 6 man rotation. I watched him pitch a lot, seemingly every Saturday game we attended he was pitching. I am interested on how he will pitch in a more consistent 5 man rotation. Hopefully he can revert to being a solid #3 with a high 3, low 4 ERA instead of a #5 with an 5+ ERA

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        2 years ago

        Detmers also said he’s looking forward to a 5 man. Hopefully you’re right.

        I see baseball as a game of adjustments. The Dodgers changed his pitch mix abs it worked great. Now the league has adjusted to it.

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  63. Halo11Fan

    2 years ago

    Buying high, ignoring the peripherals and hoping the magic would continue is the Angel way,

    He learned a pitch last year. It was the most unhitable pitch in baseball last year. He’s a former number one pick with above average control and a very good fastball and he fills a desperate need.

    There is a reason to buy high on this guy and what he accomplished was not based on magic.

    Tyler Anderson’s magic had no chance of continuing. Apples and Oranges.

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  64. Ariaga II

    2 years ago

    Typical Angels Arte Moreno-era move. Overpay a player based on very limited body of performance, in this case a half season of very good pitching with several seasons of middle of the road performance. I hope that is the last big move because this team screams “rebuild” at this point.

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  65. Oldhalo

    2 years ago

    His career track record isn’t great but you can obviously see and read that the potential is there based on the stats that he put up in Tampa. We will see what happens. Being an Angel fan I’ve seen plenty of players who perform well in a contract year and then perform dismally when they’ve signed with the Angel’s. Then there are those with the proven track record that fall off the edge. It’s crazy that 33 mil only gets you the possibility of success and not the guarantee. Consistency is so difficult to find and for most players to maintain at an elite level.

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  66. Jesse Chavez enthusiast

    2 years ago

    Ahh, it wouldn’t be an MLBTR article without multiple people saying “it’s an overpay” no matter the terms of the deal! Also, major props to the “Jolly Olive” for getting in the right circles and being the first to report signings.

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  67. Halo11Fan

    2 years ago

    People are trolls. Why they go on boards of other teams and talk smack is beyond me.

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  68. Bluemarlin528

    2 years ago

    Signing any pitching is good for the Halos. Build the pen.

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  69. 1979andcounting

    2 years ago

    A new pitch changed Stevenson’s career path. He started throwing a cutter at the suggestion of Rays pitching coach and bingo…$33M! If I were a prof pitcher, I’d be at Driveline in the off-season finding that new pitch that changes everything. There’s a pot of gold awaiting.

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      And that new pitch turned out to be the best pitch in baseball. And it’s not a trick pitch.

      He checks the boxes.

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    • rocky7

      2 years ago

      Pretty sure the “book” on him that hitters reviewed before batting against him said he was a 2 pitch pitcher….when he incorporated that high *80″ off speed pitch, nobody was geared up for it….you see this all the time when a pitcher goes to a new team and their pitching coach suggests something new in the arsenal…….well the hitting coaches now have .a new paragraph in their hitting book against him that wasn’t there for the 231 previous games against him….and for this the Angels gambled 3 years and a bunch of money……wonder what hitters will do with that pitch this season……

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      • Slow day at work

        2 years ago

        That “new paragraph” was written shortly after he started using that new pitch.
        It’s not the 1920’s where scouts would only go to the next opponent’s game and information was never shared.

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  70. DarrenDreifortsContract

    2 years ago

    Arte Moreno always thinks he’s one piece away from winning the world series lol.

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    • orange2001

      2 years ago

      And how many more pieces do the dodgers need to finally win a world series?

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      How do you know what Moreno thinks.

      Trolls gotta troll.

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  71. Alexpulido7051 2

    2 years ago

    If the Angels were to sign Snell. Common sense says, They will need a deeper and more reliable pen.

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  72. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    2 years ago

    WRITE IN PROPER ENGLISH. “Stellar as Stephenson’s finish was” is not grammatically correct. It’s “AS stellar as Stephenson’s finish was.” Come on, this is basic English. Get an editor to help these nimrods write.

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  73. Murphy NFLD

    2 years ago

    So I imagine that the physical showed some elbow damage or reason to be concerned about elbow damage and a likly Tommy John, UCL, or spur surgery in the near future. Still The guy even 1 year ago didnt think he would get a multi year deal let alone 33M over 3 and the 2.5M to essentially rehab a surgery is pretty good

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  74. tonyinsingapore

    2 years ago

    Bob Stephenson will be available at the Trade Deadline…

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  75. 88 Brooklyn Dodgers

    2 years ago

    Arguably the most underrated stadium in all of baseball.

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  76. octavian8

    2 years ago

    As a Reds fan watching Stephenson coming through our farm system you would see him throw and say “Wow, this kid can be something special.” Then he would take the mound and prove you wrong.

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  77. Steve12345

    2 years ago

    The Angels have fourth place locked up now. Sorry Oakland fans.

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  78. soccer_ref

    2 years ago

    BOOK THE PARADE!!!!!!!!

    I am a life long Angels fan. I have HAD IT. I am now officially a free agent looking for a new team. The Angels can take their qualifying offer to me and shove it up Ohtani’s backside

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    • Halo11Fan

      2 years ago

      Hey soccer, don’t let the door hit you on the butt on the way out.

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