TODAY: Murphy told Rosiak and other reporters today that Miley is dealing with soreness in his throwing shoulder. While there was no update yet on a timeline, Murphy indicated the injury might not be too serious, as Miley “played catch, played through it. Hasn’t had any problem since. We just want to go slow because of his history.”
YESTERDAY: Brewers left-hander Wade Miley may not be ready for Opening Day, manager Pat Murphy tells Todd Rosiak of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Murphy said it’s a “50-50” shot that Miley is ready for the opener but declined to provide any details. “We’ll let you know more in about 10 days,” he said.
It’s a vaguely ominous update that comes out of nowhere, as there hasn’t been any previous reporting to suggest that anything was up with Miley. He hasn’t yet appeared in a Spring Training contest, but that’s true of a lot of pitchers at this relatively early stage of the spring.
Meaningful conclusions can’t be drawn without more information but the rotation depth in Milwaukee is weaker than it has been in a long time, so any kind of uncertainty will be concerning. Brewers fans have been able to enjoy a staff fronted by co-aces Corbin Burnes and Brandon Woodruff for the past few years, but that won’t be the case in 2024. Burnes has been traded to the Orioles while Woodruff will be out for much of the year recovering from shoulder surgery.
On paper, the rotation now projects to be fronted by Freddy Peralta, followed by some combination of Miley, Jakob Junis, Colin Rea, DL Hall, Joe Ross, Aaron Ashby and Janson Junk, with plenty of uncertainty in that group. Junis has done some solid work of late but mostly in a swing role, having not topped 112 innings since 2019. Rea had a decent season in Milwaukee last year but that was his first meaningful big league action since 2016. Hall is not too far removed from being a notable prospect but there are concerns about his control and workload. Ross didn’t pitch in the big leagues in the past two years due to Tommy John surgery, the second of his career. Ashby missed all of last year after undergoing arthroscopic surgery on his throwing shoulder. Junk has just 32 big league innings and a 4.42 ERA in his Triple-A work.
Amid all of that uncertainty, Miley was going to be one of the more reliable options, despite his own history. Now 37 years old, he hasn’t topped 170 innings since 2015. Only twice since 2017 has he thrown more than last year’s 120 1/3 innings. He missed time last year due to a left lat strain and left elbow discomfort but still made 23 starts, though elbow and shoulder issues limited him to just 37 frames the year prior.
While there’s no clarity on what’s currently holding back Miley or how serious it is, his personal injury history and the lack of established rotation options is undoubtedly a situation worth monitoring for the Brewers. Despite the losses of Burnes and Woodruff, the club still aims to contend this year, having spent money on players like Junis, Rhys Hoskins and Gary Sánchez to help them defend their division title.
If the club eventually decides it needs further additions, there are still options available in free agency at this late stage of the winter. It would be a shock to see the low-spending Brewers pursue a marquee name like Blake Snell or Jordan Montgomery but a run at someone like Michael Lorenzen, Jake Odorizzi or old friend Eric Lauer isn’t out of the question. RosterResource lists this year’s club payroll at $109MM. Per Cot’s Baseball Contracts, the club had an Opening Day payroll of $119MM last year and $132MM the year prior.
There could perhaps be some powder dry there for another move, even though we’re now in the month of March. Another alternative could be for the club to turn to its prospect depth. Robert Gasser and Jacob Misiorowski are two of the club’s most notable prospects, though neither is on the 40-man roster and Misiorowski has made just five starts above High-A.
User 2161944466
Ryan Braun was the greatest Brewer of all time. And don’t give me that junk about Yount or Molitor. They should retire #8 and they should do it this year
Old York
Prince Fielder: 141 wRC+
Ryan Braun: 135 wRC+
Fielder was the best Brewer of all time. Plus, Christian Yelich is close to surpass Braun so he’ll be #2 soon enough.
Shout out to Tim Johnson with a 54 wRC+. Legendary player.
StudWinfield
It’s Yount and it’s not even close when comparing prime years and “enhancements”
RockinRobin
I’d tend to agree with your comment.
Greenwell
It’s rob deer for me
Rishi
Puns galore. A pitcher named Junk on a horrid staff and Fielder who was about the worst fielding 1B imaginable. So by that alone how can he be better than Yount?
NYCityRiddler
Looks like Jimmy is off his meds again. Ahahaha!
Shadow Banned
Shut him down. Teams who put their injured players out there are complete m.orons.
User 2079935927
@Jimmy. You’re wrong on all 3 counts
The Greatest player to don a Milwaukee Brewer Uniform was Aaron.
He could of had 0 HR’s and still have 3000 hits.
#2 Greatest Brewer of all time is Bob Uecker
Braves_saints_celts
He was a Milwaukee brave not brewer
User 2079935927
He came back and played his last season as a Brewer
Braves_saints_celts
Yeah I seen that, my bad. 2 years as a brewer definitely makes him one of the tops for the team no doubt.
Joirgro 2
He did finish is career in Milwaukee, where he said he wished he could have played his entire career. Not Atlanta.
Braves_saints_celts
I seen that and owned up to my mishap. And regardless of how he felt, he’s the best brave of all time and in the top 5 best baseball players of all time if not number one and 2 seasons as a brewer makes him a top brewer regardless of other players long tenures with the team in my opinion.
Braves_saints_celts
Nevermind I stand corrected he had 2 years as a brewer.
Chris from NJ
Gotta disagree. Yount or Molitor are the greatest Brewers of all time. Hank Aaron’s time with the Brewers is a side note. He played the last 2 years of his career with them and wasn’t very productive. That’s the same as saying Willie Mays is the greatest Met of all time or Babe Ruth is the greatest Brave of all time because that’s where they finished up.
Joe says...
Bob Uecker is number 1. End of discussion.
gbs42
Young and Molitor both over Braun.
I.M. Insane
Ryan Braun was a cheating piece of trash.
Rsox
“Junk” pretty much describes that group after Peralta, and that’s with Miley. Craig Counsell may have closed the Brewers window of contention on his way out the door
egrossen
Just need Janson to make the rotation and
It’s all set!
acoss13
They need a full season out of Ashby to see if he can be a starter or a reliever. Without Woodruff this year, and trading Burnes it’ll be tough.
Old York
I hope he can. I remember he threw a no-hitter in May when the weather was still cool. Could see him repeat that on one of the games of May 10 – 12.
PiratesFan1981
Wide open NL central
The Chicago Cubs
I respectfully disagree. The pirates need another year or two, the reds didn’t address their starting pitching needs at all, and I don’t see how the Cardinals got any better either. Gibson and Lynn? Yeah right. The cubs should he the clear favorites with signing bellinger. Without any bias.
Jonny5
Yeah, definitely not biased.
/s
cwizzy6
Clear favorites? Always nice to start the weekend off with a laugh.
filihok
Re cwizzy and TCC
“Without any bias.”
Always nice to start the weekend off with a laugh
Unfortunately people thinking they can just not have bias is depressing.
cwizzy6
The commenters name is “The Chicago Cubs” and they are stating the Cubs to be the clear favorites. But yeah, no bias.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
I think right now it is a 4 way fight between all teams except for PIT (who should be improved) for the division and a wildcard.
Of course IF a significant SP or Hitter signed in the division I might lean their way. Should go down to the last week of the year for division winner IMO.
YaGottaBelieveAgain
IF I was a StL fan I would be happy with Sonny Gray.
I think Gibson should be OK as long as offense is improved.
Not a big fan of Lynn signing but if used judiciously he could help. Spread some innings around and hopefully not over work the bullpen.
StL should be improved by 7-10 games conservatively speaking. They may still fall short. Young players need to be solid they don’t need to be superstars.
Matz as an improved SP or RP should help.
gbs42
YaGotta,
How would an improved offense make Gibson a better pitcher?
PiratesFan1981
@yagotta you obviously are a cubs fan and delusional. Cubs are no better than the rest of the division including the Pirates. Cody has a stellar year last year. Doesn’t mean he replicates it this year. Cubs pitching is weak like everyone else in the NL Central. Like I said, NL Central is wide open
ohmy
Typical cub fan. EVERY spring training since their very short “dynasty” in the mid 2010’s, the cub “are clear favorites to win the division” and be in the World Series.
What is it with every Chicago sports “fan” drinking the wild koolaid with their teams?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Chicago
The Reds have a dynamic young deep core of position players the envy of MLB. I agree they have weak pitching other than a solid closer on Diaz. I expect Reds to compete despite much weaker pitching than the Cubs.
Philip5
Pretty sure they had bellinger last year
The Chicago Cubs
Not like it will make a difference. Wade Miley isn’t good anymore. He’d only provide value through eating up innings. The brewers are also expected not to contend. Might as well tank the season in hopes of getting the #1.
Vanilla Good
lol!
Vanilla Good
You’ll never guess who between Miley and Woodruff had the better WAR in 2023.
cubfanforever
If Miley makes all his starts, he’ll give up 50 bombs.
earmbrister
Every other year he has little or no innings pitched. He’s due to be injured this year.
gbs42
Cubs,
Who besides you expects the Brewers not to contend?
dray16
Sportsbooks don’t expect Milwaukee to compete. StL, Chicago and Cincinnati close favorites to win the division with Milwaukee and Pittsburgh well behind.
filihok
Dray
People don’t understand what sport books do
They don’t state the odds of something happening, they attempt to read and influence human behavior
Jeremy320
Correct, the algorithim in sports betting is instructed to maximize profit not reflect accurate odds. Manipulating large betting markets is more profitable than small markets.
its_happening
Because teams like your Cubs is weak, Brewers should contend by-virtue of a bad division.
filihok
TCC
“The brewers are also expected not to contend.”
By whom?
Fangraphs gives the Brewers a 19% chance to win the division and 34% to make the playoffs
By comparison, they give the Cubs 24% and 39%
Both are behind the Cardinals at 36% and 54%
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Miley is still good, but expect 20 starts and 4.7 innings per start.
Vanilla Good
Fortunately, Freddy will be starting on opening day, so Wade only needs to be ready for the next day!
Big whiffa
52% chance he’s ready for game 2
gbs42
Impossible to argue with that logic.
Tacoshells
I heard he has an inflamed pinky toe which is why he is doubtful for opening day
Fraham_
Pat Murphy is a nice old man
denistaylor
Janson Junk is right up there with Kris Bubic…
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Your message is followed by Harry Carey
harrycarey
Miley and the IL often go together the past five seasons. I just am not surprised if the Brewers were going to pencil him in for 30 starts and it doesn’t happen.
AlBundysFanClubPresident
I’d be surprised if the Brewers have any of their starters penciled in for 30 starts. They don’t force starters to hit milestones like 30 starts, X number of IP/start or season. They probably projected about 120 innings and maybe 18-20 starts when they signed him.
Yankee Clipper
Well, TBH, everyone is 50/50 for Opening Day. In fact, it’s 50/50 on whether or not we are here tomorrow. That’s just…life.
0523me
That’s great logic, I say that all the time. There are 2 outcomes for me for tomorrow, either I see it or I don’t… 50/50 on both.
This one belongs to the Reds
We’re all day to day.
Especially at my age.
filihok
YC
“Well, TBH, everyone is 50/50 for Opening Day. In fact, it’s 50/50 on whether or not we are here tomorrow. That’s just…”
100% incorrect and a total nonunderstanding of probabilities
Yankee Clipper
Filihok: I took collegiate level mathematics… I think you missed the point of the statement.
filihok
YC
” I took collegiate level mathematics”
Did you pass?
Because this
““Well, TBH, everyone is 50/50 for Opening Day. In fact, it’s 50/50 on whether or not we are here tomorrow.”
Is 100% false
Yankee Clipper
Oh…my…goodness. It wasn’t a literal mathematical calculation. Neither is the title, “Wade Myley 50/50 for Opening Day.”
But, like normal, you must insult instead of discuss. Yes, I aced mathematics. In fact, I took advanced probability and statistics. In mathematics, and obviously general conversation, I run circles around you.
What I do notice about your commenting is that you never opine…you simply respond to other’s comments in snarky tone, like you’re more intellectual. My advice: stop. It makes you look like a pompous moron.
filihok
YC
Muted (donkey)
Yankee Clipper
Thank you! Finally… Filihok, the great ignoramus.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
According to a statistician, if you have one foot in boiling water, and the other foot in a block of ice, on the average you are comfortable.
Let’s play ball!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Yankees Clipper is a pleasant poster. I am sure he does not literally think that he has a 50% chance of dying tomorrow.
BrianStrowman9
Gotta be honest with you I did not know the Brewers new manager’s name up til today.
The Voices
If joe mauer got into the Hall of Fame which is laughable then it will be a outrage if they really do actually end up rejecting Pujols as some are saying
Joe says...
What idiots are saying that?
eddiemathews
I have heard that Miley was ill this winter and lost quite a bit of weight, and that it will take time to build back up his stamina. No idea if it’s true or not, but if so that seems reasonable and not too scary.
cmanson
50/50 and there is only a 30% chance of that
BlueSkies_LA
Which half of him will be ready?
MacGromit
as long as it’s his left arm, should be good to go. unless, the opponent treats him like Jim Abbott and bunts over and over again. that might be a problem if the right arm isn’t working.
PiratePartyTime412
The greatest Brewer ever is the one and only Stan Ross
I.M. Insane
Yogi Berra: Wade Miley has a 50% chance of pitching, a 50% chance of not pitching and a 50% chance he “may” pitch.