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Who Could The Marlins Trade This Summer?

By Anthony Franco | April 29, 2024 at 2:10pm CDT

A team can’t cement a playoff spot in April, but they can certainly play their way out of the mix. Such is the case with the Marlins. Miami blew a 7-0 lead against the Nationals yesterday to fall to an MLB-worst 6-23 start. Whatever slim hope they had of competing for a playoff spot entering the season is gone. They’re going to be deadline sellers. It’s just a matter of when they start moving players and who will go.

New president of baseball operations Peter Bendix figures to be broadly open to dealing anyone beyond Eury Pérez and Sandy Alcantara, both of whom are rehabbing Tommy John surgeries anyhow. Much of the roster was assembled before he was hired last November, so he probably doesn’t have a ton of attachment to this group.

Bendix also joined Miami after a long stint with the Rays, a front office that was never afraid to move established players as they navigated payroll limitations. Tampa Bay occasionally made key deals at atypical times on the schedule, including trading Austin Meadows just before Opening Day in 2022 and swapping Willy Adames for Drew Rasmussen and J.P. Feyereisen the previous May.

The Fish are more likely to deal some players than others, of course, so let’s run through a few of the top possibilities:

Trevor Rogers

Rogers was an All-Star and the NL Rookie of the Year runner-up in 2021. He was ineffective in 2022 and limited to four starts last season by injury. The 6’5″ southpaw is one of the rare Miami pitchers who hasn’t been impacted by health concerns early this year. Rogers isn’t back to his early-career peak, but he has looked the part of a capable mid-rotation arm through five starts. He owns a 4.10 ERA in 26 1/3 innings.

The former first-rounder’s velocity is sitting around 92 MPH — down from the 94-95 he was pumping as a rookie — and his strikeout rate sits at a personal-low 20.6%. He’s getting ground-balls at a near-52% clip, though, and he’s done a solid job throwing strikes. Even if Rogers might not be the top-end arm he seemed three years ago, he’s an affordable mid-rotation starter who is under arbitration control for two seasons beyond this one. He’s making just $1.53MM this year, as the injuries prevented him from building much of a résumé going into his arb window.

Jesús Luzardo

Entering the season, Luzardo was the left-hander more teams were probably monitoring. He could certainly still be a coveted deadline target, but he’ll need to rebound from a rough couple weeks. Luzardo has been rocked for a 6.58 ERA with elevated walk and home run rates through his first 26 innings. He went on the 15-day injured list late last week with elbow tightness. It’s still not clear how serious that is.

If Luzardo returns to health and looks more like his 2023 self, he’d be one of the top upside plays on the market. He was an upper mid-rotation starter last season, turning in 178 2/3 innings of 3.58 ERA ball. Luzardo’s fastball velocity was sitting in its customary 97 MPH range before he went on the IL and he continued to miss plenty of bats. He and the Fish agreed to a $5.5MM salary to avoid arbitration last winter. Like Rogers, he’s under team control for two more years.

Braxton Garrett

Garrett, 26, was a quietly effective rotation piece a year ago. The control artist turned in his second straight sub-4.00 ERA showing over 159 2/3 frames. He fanned an above-average 23.7% of opponents and kept the ball on the ground nearly half the time batters made contact.

The former #7 overall pick hasn’t pitched in the majors in 2024. He opened the year on the IL with a shoulder impingement. He had a brief setback when he experienced dead arm after a throwing session, but it’s not believed to be serious. He threw three innings in a rehab start last Friday. Garrett is making around the league minimum and will be go through arbitration four times after this season. He doesn’t have eye-popping velocity, but he misses bats with his offspeed stuff and has a career 3.86 ERA with peripherals to match. The Fish should get plenty of calls on him in July if he’s healthy.

Edward Cabrera

Cabrera rounds out the quartet of potentially desirable rotation pieces. He may be the hardest of the group to evaluate. The former top prospect has huge stuff. His fastball sits in the high-90s. Cabrera can miss bats and generate plenty of grounders with all three of his secondary pitches (changeup, curveball, slider). At 26, it’s still not out of the question that he blossoms into a top-of-the-rotation starter.

Yet the Dominican-born righty has never thrown 100 innings in a major league season (although he fell one out shy of that arbitrary cutoff last year). That’s partially because he has a few arm-related injured list stints, including a two-week stay to open this season resulting from a shoulder impingement. He’s also nearly as wild a starter as there is in MLB. Cabrera walked 15.2% of batters faced last year and has issued free passes at a near-14% clip in his big league career.

The Marlins won’t feel obligated to move Cabrera for whatever they can get. He’s under control for four years after this, though he’ll qualify for early arbitration as a Super Two player next winter. The Fish considered trade possibilities over the offseason, so he’s unlikely to be off the table, but a team will need to meet a lofty asking price.

Luis Arraez

Of Miami’s hitters, Arraez is the biggest name. A defending two-time batting champ, he’s probably the best pure contact hitter in the sport. His .305 average through his first 129 plate appearances would be the second-lowest of his career. Arraez is going to reach base at a high clip, but he offers minimal power — career-high 10 homers, zero in 2024 — and plays a well below-average second base.

Arraez will still draw interest, but his trade value isn’t as high as one might assume based solely on the batting average. In addition to his defensive limitations, his control window is shrinking. Arraez is playing this season on a $10.6MM salary and will go through the arbitration process once more before getting to free agency. He’d likely earn something in the $13-15MM range next season, which could motivate the Marlins to deal him this summer.

Jazz Chisholm Jr.

Chisholm hasn’t quite developed into the franchise player that he seemed he might become early in his career. He has been a solid regular with flashes beyond that, though. The switch-hitter connected on 19 homers and stole 22 bases in just 97 games last season, albeit with a modest .304 on-base percentage. He has dramatically increased his walk rate in the early going this year, running a .245/.342/.382 slash through his first 117 plate appearances.

Injuries have been a recurring problem. Chisholm missed a good portion of 2022 to a back issue. He lost chunks of the ’23 campaign with toe and oblique woes. If he stays healthy through this season’s first half, Chisholm could be one of the more intriguing trade candidates of deadline season. He has a tantalizing power/speed combination and can play center field, albeit with differing reviews from public metrics on his glove. Chisholm is making $2.65MM this year and has two more seasons of arbitration control.

Lefty Relief Trio

Each of Tanner Scott, A.J. Puk and Andrew Nardi could be attractive left-handed relief options. They’ve all been hit hard in the early going but have high-octane stuff and performed well last season. The Marlins unsuccessfully auditioned Puk in the rotation but will move him back to relief once he recovers from shoulder fatigue.

Nardi is the least well-known of the group, but he’s controllable for four-plus seasons and won’t be eligible for arbitration until 2026. He has a career strikeout rate north of 30% in 83 2/3 innings. Scott is an impending free agent who has worked the ninth inning for Miami over the last couple seasons. He hasn’t been able to find the strike zone this year, a disappointing start after he issued walks at a career-low 7.8% clip in 2023. Scott is playing this season on a $5.7MM salary. Puk is making $1.8MM and will go through arbitration twice more.

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A few others could draw attention, although they’re probably less likely than the players listed above to move. Many teams would love to land Max Meyer, but it’d take a Godfather offer for the Marlins to move him.

Ryan Weathers leads the team in innings thus far. He’s a former top 10 pick who has pushed his average fastball to 96 MPH and is getting plenty of whiffs on his breaking ball. It’s conceivable teams could have interest, but Weathers has a career 5.67 ERA with subpar strikeout and walk numbers. Anthony Bender has returned from Tommy John surgery to post excellent strikeout and walk rates through his first 11 innings. His ERA is atrocious because of an elevated average on balls in play, but that should normalize well before the deadline.

The Marlins aren’t likely to find a taker for any portion of the Avisaíl García contract. That’d also be the case for Josh Bell unless he has a dramatic turnaround at the plate. He’s hitting .176/.270/.287 and playing on a $16.5MM salary. Neither Nick Fortes nor Christian Bethancourt has contributed anything offensively.

The Fish took a $5MM rebound flier on Tim Anderson over the offseason. That was likely with an eye towards a midseason trade, but he’s out to a .223/.270/.255 start after hitting .245/.286/.296 in his final year with the White Sox. He’ll need to perform significantly better to draw any kind of interest. Bryan De La Cruz, Jesús Sánchez and Jake Burger are low-OBP corner bats. They’d each have modest value if the Marlins wanted to deal them.

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  1. DarkSide830

    1 year ago

    BDLC and Burger are controlled through 2027 and 2028 respectively. Getting either at “modest value” would be a steal.

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  2. Blackpink in the area

    1 year ago

    I think Rogers is the most likely so good thinking having him lead off the list. That’s a guy lots of teams would be interested in and he’s only under control through 2026. Luzardo it depends on his health. I could see them moving him even if he does have to have TJ. The Marlins clearly have starters to trade. Other than that Scott will probably go he’s a soon to be free agent and Arraez only has 1 year of team control left after 2024 so he doesn’t fit into their next competitive window.

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  3. Tom the ray fan

    1 year ago

    Name the first thought that popped in your head when you read the headline:

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    • LouWhitakerHOF

      1 year ago

      My first thought ….. Why do the Marlins have to constantly trade their top players? Why can’t they keep some of them.

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      • formerlyz

        1 year ago

        Name someone in the organization you would keep, outside of Eury Perez

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Max Meyer? Alcantara?

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        • formerlyz

          1 year ago

          Alcantara currently waiting for next season to rebuild from missing 18 months, after struggling with his mechanics for a full year, and controllable a couplenof more years…obviously he counts, but is damaged goods, and arguably still should be considered to be moved once he is healthy, and gives them something they can hopefully get actual value for

          Meyer hopefully can be a starter, even though he is an undersized right hander, also with injury history. Personally, I would move him if he has value, though I wouldn’t have drafted him in the first place, as I said at the time. Since the Marlins don’t know how to get value in trades, I would obviously hold hom for now, and hope to get something good for him when I can, before he gets hurt, falls off, or proves to be a reliever

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        • lamars

          1 year ago

          Braxton Garrett

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        have to constantly trade their top players?
        ===================
        1-They don’t really have many top players..

        2-Unless you have a big market payroll, you have to pick and choose your years of contention.

        I don’t think I’m out of line saying they won’t compete in 2024 or 2025, and probably 2026. So I’d get rid of everyone not part of the 2027 team, and anyone else that looks like a injury/performance risk.

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      • stymeedone

        1 year ago

        My first thought was “The Marlins have a top player to trade?” They have some players with potential, but they haven’t shown health, or development, or consistency to this point.

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    • thebirds

      1 year ago

      Imagine your team is so bad, it’s assumed they sell every year before the first month of baseball is in the books.

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    • case

      1 year ago

      Can they trade their executive leadership? That’s the only real problem with this club.

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  4. formerlyz

    1 year ago

    How many times did I say this should have been done at least several months ago (if not prior to that), and now, literally everything I was facetiously saying is also happening, with the injuries and falloff, and loss of remaining value

    Now it may be too late to do so for those certain pieces, and you might have to hope for a quick turnaround first, or you just cut your losses, and hope to at least get something

    Previously, I had said I would only hold onto Eury, Jesus Sanchez, Trevor Rogers, Nick Fortes, and maybe Edward Cabrera, for now. Now, it might make sense to wait a bit on certain longer term options, and just get value on what you can, and give the remaining young guys they’ve refused to give looks to/have given away an opportunity to see what you have. Hope for a strong draft for the first time in a long time, and hope to turn it back around in closer to 3-4 years, instead of probably what seems like 5-7 minimum (again)

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      You can’t predict injuries. And without all their injuries they could have been competitive.

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      • formerlyz

        1 year ago

        To what end though? Anything beyond consistently being a world series contender doesn’t matter, and was never the goal, so why are we pretending the future wasn’t looking exactly this way, which it was, b/c they made the 17th playoff spot in the new version of the playoffs, and immediately lost in the pre 1st round whatever round.

        The only reason the Marlins were even there last year is they won like 45 games within 2 runs, had a crazy come from behind record in late innings, and their bullpen shockingly was less than abhorrent for the first time in years last year, which it has returned to being this year as well

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        they could have been competitive.
        ======================
        Could be, but I doubt it. They are maybe 28th in offense, with very few injuries. So conversely, they’d need to be 3rd in pitching to be .500. And right now, they are 29th. Adding Alcantara, Eury & Braxton would help, but it wouldn’t be near enough to make them .500.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          I think with good health they were basically a 500 team but that’s who they were last year and they made the playoffs. They are missing their top 3 pitchers right now. Different teams have different expectations and I think it was reasonable to think they could compete at least until the Perez injury. Once him and Luzardo got hurt that imo meant time to sell for sure.

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        • formerlyz

          1 year ago

          I don’t think it was reasonable. The moment Arraez isn’t hitting .400, they super fell off, and again, still had to rely on the stuff I was saying, even when he was hitting .400. That’s not sustainable, and the value would have been in moving him, and the others

          They also ended up almost literally doing nothing either way. Like, you have to pick a direction, and the Marlins didn’t even do that. Like I said, I would have moved guys, tried to sign 3-4 relatively cheap veterans/interesting options at certain spots that I outlined at the time (that don’t matter right now in this discussion), given opportunity to young guys they had refused to/ended up giving away, and then reevaluate mid-season. I do think the result of those ideas could have been a similar situation to last year, but with better assets, but that’s not the point. Either way, this last period of time has been a replay of 2014-2017, and it has also been more of the same as it was always was, being in between, instead of choosing a direction and doing something. Obviously, going for it wouldn’t have made any sense either, so what does that leave? Starting over…

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Without Arraez they don’t make the playoffs last year. With hindsight 29 teams would have been better off rebuilding last year but that’s hindsight. The Marlins need to draft better I like the 2 high school pitchers they picked up last year. But Berry and Bleday were bad picks. When you pick that early you gotta get it right.

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        • formerlyz

          1 year ago

          I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing. Arraez fell off from hitting .400 last 2 months of the season last year, and look what happened? And he was still hitting, just obviously not at that crazy level.

          That isn’t sustainable. If you need to hit .400 to have value, and if your team needs you to hit .400 to maybe come from behind and luckily win a 1 or 2 run game, while your bullpen and pitchers try to be perfect, so you can maybe won 80 games, that’s not sustainable

          …and even if it was, the objective is to be a world series contender consistently, and there is no way to argue the Marlins were or are on the cusp of that

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    • Dumpster Divin Theo

      1 year ago

      Speaking to the voices In your head are you

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  5. Blackpink in the area

    1 year ago

    Off subject a bit but I was working on some mock trades for the Cardinals at the deadline if and when they are out of it.

    Goldschmidt
    Edman
    Herrera

    For

    Torkelson
    Comp pick I think it’s pick 69

    Arenado
    Kittredge
    Burleson

    For

    Muncy
    Taylor
    Grove

    First trade gives the Cardinals a long term 1b and a pick to make up for the one they lost by signing Gray. Tigers look ready to win now they get Goldschmidt to cover the loss of Torkelson and Edman plays 2b, short and center which Detroit could use a little help at all of those positions. Herrera could be a long term starter.

    The Dodgers trade is about getting out of the Arenado contract. Muncy might actually be a better player at this point he would play more 1b and DH with the Cardinals. Arenado wants to play for the Dodgers and wants to win he would waive his NTC to go there. Dodgers bank on getting a reinvigorated Arenado plus pen help and Burleson is a bench bat.

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    • LouWhitakerHOF

      1 year ago

      If I am the Tigers I am keeping Torkelson.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        You get Goldschmidt for 2024. First base isn’t that difficult to fill in the offseason. And Herrera could be a starting catcher. He could possibly be better than Torkelson long term.

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        • Hotdog 2

          1 year ago

          Lol. Dummy alert. Yeah, Tigers are gonna trade a 24 year old 1b for a /late 30s guy that cNt hit. Stock to al sharpton stuff

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          If the Tigers made thar trade they would be a better team in 2024 no doubt and most likely 2025 as well. Edman is under control through 2025 he’s a 4 win player when healthy and plays 3 positions the Tigers need help at. And Herrera is one of the best young catchers out there that could possibly be available.

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          The Tigers have their most expensive player at SS. Unless the Cards are taking Baez’ contract back, its not happening. Baez won’t be sitting on the bench at that price. Leonard, or Kreidler, or Jung will be options if Keith doesn’t turn it around and needs more time in the minors, and Wencel Perez seems capable if Meadows needs more. Young catching is always a valuable commodity, but the Tigers value defense first, and the current tandom is working well defensively.

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    • Butter Biscuits

      1 year ago

      I like the mock trade with the dodgers but I believe it’ll happen in the off-season

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        Yeah I could see that one waiting for the offseason but if the Cardinals are out of it no need to wait. The Cardinals don’t want to sell it’s gonna have to be like 2023 again if they do.

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    • Deleted Userr

      1 year ago

      Take out Grove and the comp pick and then have the Dodgers send the Tigers a prospect like Landon Knack and then we’re in business.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        It’s 2 separate trades. And I don’t think for a second those offers are short in value. The guys the Cardinals would lose are valuable. Taking out Grove and the comp pick doesn’t make a lot of sense. The Cardinals would be taking on some bad money with Taylor.

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        • Deleted Userr

          1 year ago

          Fine. You can lose Goldschmidt for nothing this winter.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          I really didn’t factor Goldschmidt as being worth much of anything at all. Herrera is the most valuable piece in that deal.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      It is almost impossible to assess with Goldie & Arenado performing so badly. Both are untradeable at their current stats.

      Both guys should’ve been gone last July. Not sure what the Cards fans were thinking when they disagreed with me.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        I thought both should have been dealt last year but there was no reason to think both guys would be so bad from that point until now.

        Torkelson isn’t playing well at the moment. Taylor is absolutely terrible. I assume all of them will play better by the time July rolls around.

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          but there was no reason to think both guys would be so bad
          ===========================
          No, but that’s why you make the trade. There is almost always more downside than upside.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          I don’t believe that was true. In 2022 Goldschmidt won the MVP and Arenado came in 3rd in the voting. And those guys also help sell tickets. Again I would have traded them but I understand why they didn’t.

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        • Deleted Userr

          1 year ago

          Who cares about selling tickets lol

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          In the long-run, you only sell tickets by winning. The Cards are down 2,705 per game in attendance.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          I was a kid when Mcgwire was around. Place was packed. Winning helps for sure. The team was really good as recently as 2022. There were and still are reasons to believe they can play better.

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          Most owners.

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    • B-rocker

      1 year ago

      Your Dodgers trade
      Love Arenado’s defense but not at $28.8 mill. Muncy’s offense likely better and a bargain at 12 mill. Burleson is a non factor. Grove beats Kitteridge clearly. So this doesn’t fly.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        You left out Taylor who is only in it for salary. And Arenado isn’t making that much moving forward the Cardinals owe him 64 million for the 2025 through 2027 seasons. And Grove beats Kittredge? I don’t think so. Grove isn’t more than a throw in. Burleson and Grove have similar value imo.

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        • Butter Biscuits

          1 year ago

          I just don’t know if Taylor will make it long enough to be traded he looks like a dfa any day now

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        • Mojo37

          1 year ago

          sadly they won’t dfa a 4 year contract at 14 mill per. I didnt forget taylor. I think Grove has a solid future tho certainly expendable for LAD. I still dont love the deal.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Taylor is just in it as a salary dump. With Taylor and Muncy that covers Arenados salary for 2025. In 2026 Taylor is owed a 4 million buyout so the Cardinals would save 8 million or so from what Arenado would make. And in 2027 the Dodgers would owe Arenado 15 million and the Cardinals would be free and clear from Muncy and Taylor.

          If Taylor was released then the Cardinals could throw in 15 million or so it wouldn’t be all that different.

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    • GarryHarris

      1 year ago

      As a Tiger fan, I’m passing on that trade. Goldy is too old.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        The trade really isn’t about Goldschmidt the real value is Herrera and the year plus of Edman. Torkelson has been a replacement level player since his 2022 debut. He has potential but he’s not actually good. The more I think about it I would pass. All I really want is the draft pick and there are cheaper ways to get one of those. I would probably do Edman for the pick and a little something else.

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  6. Fraham_

    1 year ago

    Already declaring them sellers? They could easily go on a 30-10 run and are right back in it.

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    • gorav114

      1 year ago

      Easily?

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  7. Welp

    1 year ago

    I wish you had written “toe and oblique woes” as “oblique and toe woes.”

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  8. Sean P

    1 year ago

    Red Sox need to trade the farm for several of those players.

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    • User 4245925809

      1 year ago

      Red Sox better years are down the road and they need those people at the farm to accomplish it. Some mixture of Anthony/Gonzalez/Teel/meyer/Fitts.

      Have to say that other than 2-3 pitchers? not much on the current Marlins team would want on the current red Sox one anyway. Having guys chasing personal stats doesn’t do any team good hunting for the playoffs.

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      Like who?

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  9. El Niño

    1 year ago

    Ryan Weathers is gonna blow out soon. Too much velocity increase overnight. He was 92-94 tops with the padres.

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  10. Sour Bob

    1 year ago

    The Cardinals should trade for Skip Schumaker.

    (kidding, but not kidding)

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  11. Awesom-O

    1 year ago

    “The switch-hitter connected on 19 homers and stole 22 bases in just 97 games last season”

    I thought I was losing my mind about jazz being a switch hitter lol. Just a typo…

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  12. Mr. E Team

    1 year ago

    Is jazz better at the middle infield than center field? It’s unclear to me why the marlins moved him to the grass.

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    • formerlyz

      1 year ago

      B/c he asked b/c he decided he could in his mind…

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      Who’s playing center if Chisholm isn’t?

      That’s why…..

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      • formerlyz

        1 year ago

        Last year, it was all the guys that played there when he missed 70 games…de la cruz would have made sense at the start, and Jonathan Davis eventually looked extremely good out there (kind of like de la cruz) before he got hurt (2 quick examples)

        Plus, had they not wasted assets on acquiring 17638 2nd baseman/Dhs, maybe they could have got themselves additional help…or they could have given a shot to one of many young guys they refused to

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          DeLa Cruz doesn’t belong in center. Especially in that ballpark.

          Chisholm has played a good center field since moving there has he not?

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        • formerlyz

          1 year ago

          Define good…there was a couple of weeks he looked like he might not injure himself or someone else on every route he takes, but besides that small stretch of time, he mostly looks like he never even stepped on an outfield grass, which he basically hadn’t, and has been injured multiple tomes/hurt 2 other people

          De la cruz is suited elsewhere, but he was better than what they did, and could have fit with what they were trying to do. In reality, wasting anything on Avisail Garcia when they did still hurt them last year b/c that’s another spot that could have been used differently, and maybe de la cruz is situated better, and now you have an actual CFer

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  13. This one belongs to the Reds

    1 year ago

    Anyone can be traded at anytime. The question really is will they do it for what is offered.

    Sometimes a guy “not available” will be after they get blown away with an offer. On the flip side, they keep a guy because they didn’t get what they think he is worth.

    Bottom line, it’s all a crap shoot, especially when you are talking possible trade deadline deals in April.

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    • formerlyz

      1 year ago

      Ya but this is the Marlins, and value isn’t in their vernacular

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  14. Unclemike1525

    1 year ago

    Rebuild again? Isn’t the rebuild happening now? I’ve never heard of rebuilding the rebuild.

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      If they were rebuilding they would have dealt Scott and Arraez. Probably Luzardo too.

      Reply
    • Ronk325

      1 year ago

      Just remember, the Marlins are always a couple years and a few bats away from being contenders. At least that’s what people say every year

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  15. Deleted Userr

    1 year ago

    I know a fairly recent Cy Young winner who pitched 7 and a third scoreless in Mexico omly yesterday that they could sign right now for the league minimum…

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    • Bucket Number Six

      1 year ago

      He violated MLB policy. The Geiger counters broke when he came around looking for a job last offseason.

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      • Deleted Userr

        1 year ago

        So did a lot of dudes who are still playing

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        • Bucket Number Six

          1 year ago

          Tough tiddies for Trevor.

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        • Cohn Joppolella

          1 year ago

          He already signed with Asian Breeze.

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  16. Hotdog 2

    1 year ago

    Arraez to tigers for torkelson

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    • LouWhitakerHOF

      1 year ago

      I am keeping Torkelson.

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  17. Rsox

    1 year ago

    Anyone who isn’t on the IL should be available. This team is the definition of “one step forward, two steps back”

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  18. Ronk325

    1 year ago

    Anyone and everyone. At this point the Nationals look closer to contention than the Marlins. It’ll be an uphill battle for the Marlins to contend in a tough NL East

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      I think long term the Marlins can contend but this year isn’t looking good. Losing Alcantara, Perez and Luzardo is a big big deal. The Nationals have been one of the healthiest teams in baseball that’s helping them quite a bit.

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      • Ronk325

        1 year ago

        The health of the Marlins rotation will be irrelevant if they continue to roll out atrocious lineups. The Nationals have several blue chip prospects on the way to bolster their lineup and a ton of money to spend with a strong free agent class on the pitching side coming up. The Marlins look like the clear worst team in the NL East going forward

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          If both teams were 100% healthy the Marlins have a better team. The Marlins have been hit by injuries as hard as any team out there and the Nationals have been perhaps the healthiest team in all of baseball.

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        • Ronk325

          1 year ago

          Neither of these teams is contending this year so I don’t understand why you’re fixated on the present. I was referring to next year and beyond. Unless the Marlins suddenly decide to spend some money or trade for some offense, they’re going to continue spinning their wheels

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          The Marlins made the playoffs last year they were contending until all the injuries. As far as moving forward it’s hard to say.

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        • stymeedone

          1 year ago

          Health is always a factor for every team. Injuries expose the teams lacking depth. The Marlins lack depth.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          Injuries are more of a factor for some teams. The Marlins are missing their top 4 starters at the moment in Alcantara, Luzardo, Garrett and Perez. That’s a serious problem and one that no team could prepare for unless they have a ridiculous payroll like the Dodgers.

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  19. Monkey’s Uncle

    1 year ago

    The “Kim Ng was only a diversity hire” crowd must all be taking naps….

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    • Big Smoke

      1 year ago

      Most of the roster has her fingerprints all over it though?

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    • formerlyz

      1 year ago

      These issues started 4 years ago in the middle of the 2019 season, and snowballed in the last 2 years…

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    • JoeBrady

      1 year ago

      She certainly didn’t help, but the problems didn’t start or end with her. It’s been a few years since I understood any direction from the team.

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      • formerlyz

        1 year ago

        At this point, I’m convinced it’s something internally. It feels like people lose all semblance of competency when they come here. I used to think it was all Loria/Sampson and their smugness running rampant through the organization, but now it seems proven to not just be them that operate that way. It could just be super coincidental, and just everyone that comes through here has parties where all the guests smell their own farts…this organization has never heard the word value, and has no interest in asset management, and that has existed for an extremely, extremely long time

        That being said, if you ever heard her speak, it always felt like she was getting all her information from like a 5th party

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        • JoeBrady

          1 year ago

          Never heard her speak, but couldn’t understand the Cueto signing, since they had plenty of pitching, or the Segura signing, since he doesn’t actually play 3rd, the Soler signing, who averaged 0.9 bWAR/650 prior to coming to the Marlins, the Garcia signing. the Bell trade, who even if he doesn’t work out, still cost them their #1 pick, or the whole strategy of Soler, Garcia, Bell and Burger. Four guys who are basically all DHs.

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  20. Big Smoke

    1 year ago

    Short answer: everyone
    Long answer: anyone with a pulse

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  21. Chemo850

    1 year ago

    This team’s “rebuild” has now been ongoing for 20 years. Unbelievable.

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    • formerlyz

      1 year ago

      Is it really unbelievable after the last 4 years, not even considering everything else?

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      • Chemo850

        1 year ago

        Yes, it is. Because even people who are completely inept find success sometimes. This franchise is a dumpster fire. Two playoff appearances and we can’t even celebrate those because one was during a shortened season and the other required a playoff expansion.

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        • formerlyz

          1 year ago

          When you get in your own way as often as they did…they won 87 games and had the 7th best record in baseball in 2009; a few years later they make the 2nd wildcard with that. That’s the best year since 2003, and 1 of the best ones we’ve ever had, a year in which the bullpen blew so many games, and their defense was also god awful. They even got in their own way that year

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  22. panj341

    1 year ago

    Pirates should move a couple of young surplus infielders and get Arraez

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    • PiratesFan1981

      1 year ago

      Ummm, Miami is going to want more than an IFer. They will want pitching too. Triolo or Nick Gonzales would be likely guys to be involved in a trade for another arm. Luzardo seems to be a guy the Pirates could look into if they are in contention. Their biggest need is a power hitting 1B though. Tellez is horrible and I am over that experiment a week ago. I’d be alright letting Jack be traded too at this point. His “swing and miss” or “stare down strike 3” approach is killing the pirates. It’s really surprising to see Oneil Cruz having more Ks than Jack though.

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  23. stretch123

    1 year ago

    Trading Bell and Arraez is a must. Clears out salary and in Arraez case, imagine he brings back at least 2 good to great prospects. Out of Luzardo, Rodgers, Garrett, and Cabrera, trading the one with the highest value at the deadline makes sense as well to bring back, I would think, 3 prospects since all are relatively controllable. Sandy will be back next year and Eury should be back next year later in the year.

    For 2025, I’d like to see Burger, De La Cruz, Jesus Sanchez, and Chisholm on this team. Maybe a Dane Myers, Victor Mesa Jr can stick around and provide value in the OF. But this team really needs to figure out a long term SS, C and 3B as there are no internal options that seem to be any good.. I think the bullpen, 1B, 2B (with the trade of Arraez), and 1 of the outfield spots will sort itself out internally

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      Cardinals have Ivan Herrera who could potentially be available. Also Tommy Edman I think gets dealt at the deadline. He’s only under control through 2025 but he can play shortstop and also help out at 2b and center. I don’t know if there is a deal to be made there but the Cardinals want and need lefty starting pitching so any of Luzardo, Garrett and Rogers could make sense.

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  24. nailz#4life

    1 year ago

    where is victor victor, or victor victor mesa, or victor mesa, or victor, victor Victor ????

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  25. bravesfan

    1 year ago

    I hope they trade a starting pitcher and Chisholm to the Braves. I know, I already hear y’all saying “Braves don’t neither either” and although I don’t have much of an argument against that, I will say that you can never have too much good pitching (especially since we may loose both fried and Morton in the offseason and strider will still be recovering early next season), and Jazz has openly wanted to be a brave. He could easily slot into left or SS. When needed. Arica’s contract is coming up also, and the way he is playing, Braves may not want to pay him. Plus, personality wise, he fits the Braves.

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    • stymeedone

      1 year ago

      Why would any team, let alone the Braves, play Chisholm at SS? He wasn’t a very good 2B.

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  26. GarryHarris

    1 year ago

    The Marlins should trade Jazz Chisholm while he has value. He isn’t a good defensive player and he’s certainly no star hitter.

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  27. LambchoP

    1 year ago

    I would love if the Twins could swing a trade for Luzardo or Cabrera. We need a solid SP and we’ve got the prospect capital to make it happen. I’m sure there will be lots of competition from other teams as well though…

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  28. Deleted Userr

    1 year ago

    Hahahaha Padres fans trying to include Ha-Seong Kim in their Luis Arraez trade proposals. I guarantee if Arraez is traded it’s exclusively for guys who are controlled through at least 2029. They’re not going to water down the return with 2 month rentals.

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