Even after last night’s 9-2 drubbing of the Yankees, the Blue Jays sit six games below .500. They’re at the bottom of the AL East with a 37-43 record and have three teams between them and the Royals — the current holder of the American League’s final playoff spot.
It’s certainly not where the Jays expected to find themselves at the season’s halfway point. Toronto had won between 89 and 92 games in each of the past three seasons and has gotten to the postseason in three of the last four years. They should be squarely in their competitive window.
That sets the Jays up as one of the more interesting pivot teams over the next month. They’re not eager to sell, but they’re running low on time to play their way back into the playoff mix. Toronto is 6.5 back in the Wild Card race. Any hope they had of winning the division coming into this year has long since disappeared.
GM Ross Atkins acknowledged the team’s precarious position when he spoke with the Toronto beat before Thursday’s win. “We’ve obviously put ourselves into a tough spot over the last seven days,” Atkins said (link via Keegan Matheson of MLB.com). “Ten days ago, we were feeling like there was positive momentum, and that has gone away.”
Jeff Passan of ESPN wrote earlier this week that the Jays weren’t yet willing to make key players available in trade. Atkins suggested similarly in his comments on Thursday, saying the front office’s “focus is on the 2024 team.” While the GM acknowledged that any decision also involves consideration of the future, he pointed to the organization’s investment in both payroll and prospect capital in this roster. “We’ll continue to do that until it doesn’t make sense to do so any more,” he added.
That naturally raises the question of when the front office could decide they have no choice but to turn their focus toward the future. That’ll largely depend on how things play out in the next four to five weeks — both in Toronto and around the rest of the American League. “The coming days are exceptionally important to us, and understanding the market is also exceptionally important to us in either way,” Atkins said (via Matheson). “We’re focused on winning. We’re focused on building the best possible team we can this year and supporting them the best we can. If we get to a point where we need to adjust, we’ll be prepared to do so.”
Toronto isn’t unique in that regard. There are only five or six (depending on one feels about the Tigers) teams who look like clear-cut sellers at this point. Yet there aren’t many more who can feel secure about their chances of getting to the postseason. Upwards of half the teams in the league could decide their deadline direction based on how they perform in July. Various clubs could also try to straddle the line by offloading some veterans while looking for immediate help in other areas of the roster.
The Jays have a more established roster than most of those fringe teams. Toronto has potentially impactful trade candidates with varying levels of club control. Neither Danny Jansen nor Yusei Kikuchi has played well in recent weeks, yet they’d both started the season quite well. Jansen is the top impending free agent catcher, while Kikuchi would be one of the more talented rental starting pitchers on the market if the Jays made him available.
Yimi García is pitching well and would be a straightforward target for teams seeking veteran bullpen help if he’s healthy by the deadline. (He went on the injured list with elbow neuritis two weeks ago.) Justin Turner and Kevin Kiermaier are having disappointing seasons. While the Jays would probably have to kick in cash to facilitate trades of either player, they could get calls based on their pre-2024 track records.
Things would become more interesting if the Jays seriously considered moving key players who are under control beyond this season. That would signify a bigger reset than merely trading rentals. There’s an argument for doing so if the Jays can’t claw back into contention over the next few weeks. Toronto has a handful of players who are in or at the back end of their primes. They’ve got dwindling control windows on franchise faces Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and Bo Bichette, each of whom are slated for free agency after the 2025 campaign. Bichette will make $16.5MM next season, while Guerrero is going to be due a noteworthy raise on this year’s $19.9MM salary.
Atkins bluntly shot down the notion of trading either star hitter earlier this month. That presumably won’t stop teams from calling to gauge whether the Jays are willing to reconsider. Bichette himself told Hazel Mae (X link) that he wouldn’t be surprised if the Jays moved him, though that’d presumably change if the team plays its way back into contention.
Guerrero is amidst arguably the second-best offensive season of his career. He’s hitting .289/.370/.447 across 351 plate appearances. While he hasn’t hit for the same level of power he did in 2021-22, Guerrero has the second-highest average and on-base mark of his career. Bichette hasn’t performed to his usual standard, running a personal-worst .232/.282/.333 slash line over 287 trips. While that’d arguably make this summer an inopportune time to move him, Bichette would surely still draw ample attention if the Jays put him on the market. There aren’t many everyday shortstops who seem likely to be available.
Beyond that duo, the Jays have a handful of controllable players who could generate calls, particularly on the pitching side. Jordan Romano has spent the past month on the injured list with elbow inflammation. He’s a two-time All-Star closer who is under arbitration control through next season, though. Romano recently resumed throwing from 120 feet on flat ground (via the MLB.com injury tracker). Chris Bassitt is making $22MM this season and next. He turned in a 3.60 ERA over 33 starts a year ago and has worked to a 3.45 mark with decent strikeout and walk numbers over 91 1/3 innings. Trading Kevin Gausman, who is under contract through 2026, still seems unlikely unless the front office kicks off a more significant reboot.
If the Jays perform the way they’re hoping over the next month, adding to the bullpen and deepening the lineup would be the likely priorities. The Romano and García injuries — paired with Erik Swanson’s struggles — have contributed to the Jays running out one of the least consistent relief groups in the majors. The bottom half of the lineup hasn’t performed up to expectations either. That’s largely due to underperformance from the likes of Bichette, Turner, Kiermaier and George Springer. The Jays also entered the season with questions at second and third base. They’ve plugged rookie Spencer Horwitz into regular action at the keystone while free agent signee Isiah Kiner-Falefa (who has somewhat quietly impressed with a .283/.333/.402 showing) has gotten the bulk of the third base reps.
jimmertee
Ross Atkins says a lot but says nothing. He is a fraud and will be fired after the season ends.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
But I would hope Shapiro goes with him. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
NoSaint
@Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Shapiro doesn’t need to be fired. He’s done a decent enough job securing funding the for the capital expenditures; stadium development, upgrading minor league infrastructure, and securing expanded payroll for the MLB team. Where he falls down is his involvement is the operations of baseball activities. His style of collaborative management is tantamount to “you guys in baseball ops talk about baseball stuff, but I’m going to make the final decision.” Removing him from the day to day baseball operations is equivalent to firing him.
CTS4
That’s what happened in Cleveland. For Terry Francona to become field boss, One of his stipulations was shapiro stay out of baseball ops….Ownership agreed Francona became Manager and shapiro was sent to his office. A year later he lands in Toronto. ….Making the same mistakes all over again.
Look at the Guardians now after “They (shatkins) left
Same time shatkins landed in Toronto, Baltimore started their rebuild…Look at Baltimore now…
Spaced-Cowboy
We didn’t build a new stadium. We renovated an old one. “Securing’ funding is laughable. Check your pocket.
They both need to go. Reminiscent of Dubas/Shanahan situation.
dragonwoods
I am not so sure about that. He has never ever held Atkins to account for his very very poor job as a GM. He just shoves his nose up his butt. The fact he basically os unavailable to hold people in this organization to account for their decisions does not make a good president
NoSaint
@Spaced-Cowboy
I’m guessing that Dubas/Shanahan are something to do with hockey? So what are the equivalencies between the two? Do hockey players go to the minors for years of development? I’m guessing they don’t which would make that statement a false equivalency.
I’m assuming that I’m checking my pockets because Rogers either put some lint in there or took some money out?
NoSaint
@dragonwoods
When your boss makes the final decision, you tend to pursue endeavours in which your boss would approve. It’s human nature. Holding Atkins feet to the fire is also a reflection on Shapiro.
Spaced-Cowboy
Yes, pockets as in ticket prices going up even if the on field product is worse. To answer your question, yes hockey players have, but not equal to, a similar development path. Cost control, draft size are obviously different. The main issue is the ownership group (MLSE) has failed miserably on the culture side, and unfortunately have lead to a dried out pipeline of talent. To fire one without the other (Atkins/Shapiro) is nonsensical. I could get long-winded about Anthopolous and how they mishandled him, or how the Leafs ran back the same team over and over expecting different results, and even the poor management of assets by the Raptors. Again we fire a scapegoat but never eliminate the problem. It’s unfortunate for us fans.
Spaced-Cowboy
AA being forced out and Lou Amarillo leaving are alarm bells not a signpost for improvement. My comparison with Shan/Dubas and Shap/Atkins was essentially that the MLSE has failed us by a lack of accountability. This leads to nepotism and several other problems. Namely being the rotating circus of scapegoats we fire. (That were appointed by said presidents or oversight of said operations). 5 year track record of zero improvement, more spending, and a barren farm system are not trademarks of good management. This applies to more than one MLSE team.
Stealing Signs
Shapiro acting as owner on MLB decisions “is equivalent to firing him.”?
That’s some pretty sound logic there son….JFC
Stealing Signs
Baltimore tanked for 5 years & got multiple #1 picks, something ED ROGERS wouldn’t allow. Then again that doesn’t fit your narrative so of course you omit it.
Stealing Signs
AA wasn’t forced to leave. He chose to leave…nice try though
Spaced-Cowboy
Nice try? Oh I’m sorry he wasn’t physically forced out the door. His autonomy and control was castrated in hiring Shapiro. You’re right, anyone else would have stayed (nope). By this logic it would be okay to sell a house as it’s burning down. But you’re right, that’s a choice.
Spaced-Cowboy
Ed Rogers? The man is as sharp as a marble. What does Baltimore have to do with the MLSE and it’s ineptitude?
jimmertee
AA was forced to leave by the offer Shapiro gave him. It is called conditional dismissal. One, Shapiro wanted to retain player control and the authority over drafting and player development for himself and take that away from AA, the role that AA had under Paul Beeston. Second, the money he offered him was laughable compared to other executives in MLB. AA was correct to refuse and he was snapped up right away by the Dodgers. By the way, Shapiro personally fired many of the traditional baseball scouts in the Jays organization. One of those was the guy who fought Shapiro to draft Bichette. As soon and that scout was fired another major league club hired him right away.
cleveland_spider
Well said. Shapiro’s “I’m ok, you’re ok approach” to running a team wears thin quickly
NYCityRiddler
Atkins is a fool & a clown, I hope they extend him. Ahahaha!
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
Tear it all down and start over, Atkins should send the other gms one of those low-budget clearance sale commercials. He can wear a money suit and do the thing himself. “Sell sell sell everything must go! We’re having a clearance sale in Toronto We’re practically giving away players at these prices!”
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
It’s sad because Atkins knows if he rings the fire sale alarm he’s getting fired, he isn’t helping the team because of his own job
Toronto needs a complete reset because they can’t compete with the orioles and Yankees right now
This would be the biggest fire sale since the athletics and cubs in 2021
30 Parks
Atkins sounding like Trudeau – tone deaf.
DonOsbourne
When Atkins says it doesn’t make sense for them to sell. He rightly means it doesn’t make sense for him to sell. He likely won’t be around for another rebuild. He had his chance with this roster and blew it. He knows it.
sad tormented neglected mariners fan
Guerrero isn’t in his 2nd best offensive season, at least in 2022 (even 2023) he had close to 30 homers
The struggles have continued and his slugging is getting worse every year, something needs to happen in order to become one of the best again
sovietcanuckistanian
vladdy had (better) protection in the lineup those years.
I mean, yeah, he has regressed a little in his own right, but, it’s easier to go after him now, with no fear of anyone either side of him in the line up that will truly hurt you.
terrymesmer
>his slugging is getting worse every year
June 15, Vlad had a .401 SLG. Since then, he’s been putting more balls in the air and has added 46 points of SLG in just 10 games. He has started crushing four seamers.
Don’t know if it will last, but he has some magic right now.
Whyme
Fire him before he sells our expiring contract assets for ballface 2.0, Deary and Mccanthit
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Everything about Atkins is just irritating to a fault, from his dorky 1950’s glasses to his $100 crappy hip-Dad haircut to those putrid long sleeve sweater-vest monstrosities that he wears. (But I don’t mean to be superficial or anything.)
CTS4
The useless lackie GM atkins is a snake !! It was atkins on the tv yesterday, but, He sounded like shapiro , said nothing of substance and spoke in circles. !
You cannot believe a word that comes out shapiro/atkins mouth….
Both a liars and need to GO !!
Mtog
They Took a page from Trudeaus playbook lol
solaris602
That’s exactly why CLE fans were happy to see him go and (hopefully) never return. Shapiro employed business speak 100% of the time and never said anything of substance. When he opened his mouth it was just static.
terrymesmer
Isn’t that true of all executives?
its_happening
Not the successful ones.
guhr1dy
Executives are kind of successful by definition
its_happening
Definitions of executive:
1. A person or group having administrative or managerial authority in an organization.
2. The chief officer of a government, state, or political division.
3. The branch of government charged with putting into effect a country’s laws and the administering of its functions.
…please spot the word “successful” in the definition that you claim is there.
its_happening
Atkins is praying for some miracle work by the current team.
This goes beyond Atkins. Jays can’t just fire Atkins and expect different results when the internal personnel, internal culture and baseball philosophy runs deep within the organization. People forget Anthopoulos’ rather poor run where a deadline bonanza helped him reach postseason in year 6 of his tenure. Why did it take that long? Because the Jays never rid themselves of the Ricciardi-era guys. Some are still there. If you fire Atkins, it has to be a full house cleaning.
CTS4
Shapiro goes first, He is ultimately the one calling the shots, atkins is his lackie, agreed, clean management top to bottom, except Demarlo Hale and Pete Walker…
Eddie Rogers needs to hire real baseball people this time…
NoSaint
@CTS4
Asserting that he needs “to hire real baseball people” suggests that he has educated himself about the game. Eddie Rogers doesn’t know the difference between baseball and cricket.
its_happening
It starts at the very top. Eddie sets the culture. The culture needs a shakeup. I do not see it happening. I see him hiring another Moneyball type like Farhan Zaidi, or hire Kim Ng for the wrong reasons rather than believing she’s the best GM available.
NoSaint
@its_happening
Eddie is the president/CEO of Rogers Communications. It’s a business that starts at Cable TV, through cellular, streaming services, media, cloud services just to name a few. Baseball is just another division within corporate umbrella. The culture he has to set is “make a profit”.
its_happening
NoSaint I agree. Part of the problem I see, however, is the Rogers brass fell in-love with the Moneyball tactics minus the scouting and development. There is an arrogance from those who are true believers. Ricciardi showed it. Keith Law still shows it. You see it with believers of believers. With arrogance comes ignorance. That needs to change. Blue Jays need to rebuild the scouting and development the way they had it 30 years ago. Even 25 years ago.
NoSaint
@its_happening
Again, Rogers is made up of multiple business units. I can’t state with certainty but I’m pretty sure the person responsible for cell phone doesn’t care about baseball.
The stat used as the primary driver for Moneyball was OBP. Hardly a stat which can be compared to xwOBA for example.
its_happening
NoSaint yes Rogers aren’t baseball people. They are business people. They chose cheap business when they bypassed prominent execs in 2001, including Dombrowski, for Ricciardi. Perhaps I should say data analytics versus Moneyball. Or, Ivy Leaguers versus major/minor leaguers who can recognize talent and harness it for better. Guys like Keith Law never deserved a prominent role the way he did, and still has. Today, we have hundreds of Keith Laws in the majors. If we’re curious why people don’t like baseball, that’s one reason.
jimmertee
AA was forced to leave by the offer Shapiro gave him. It is called conditional dismissal. One, Shapiro wanted to retain player control and the authority over drafting and player development for himself and take that away from AA, the role that AA had under Paul Beeston. Second, the money he offered him was laughable compared to other executives in MLB. AA was correct to refuse and he was snapped up right away by the Dodgers. By the way, Shapiro personally fired many of the traditional baseball scouts in the Jays organization. One of those was the guy who fought Shapiro to draft Bichette. As soon as that scout was fired another major league club hired him right away.
its_happening
Which is what happened in the Ricciardi era also Jimmer. The new age stats do not tell the full story. Organizations still need to build talented players into baseball players.
terrymesmer
>Eddie Rogers needs to hire real baseball people this time…
You do know Ross Atkins was a minor league pitcher, right?
CTS4
atkins was a 4AAAA pitcher way down in the Cleveland farm system going nowhere, shapiro needed a lackie and selected atkins, who couldn’t pitch …
Mtog
Agreed. There’s something wrong in the organization beyond Shatkins. Their new shiny facility in Dunedin was supposed to help develop players and aid in health etc but they’ve regressed. This team needs a full remodel. Just like the stadium.
solaris602
I completely agree that the entire FO needs to be replaced because the current one hasn’t produced any WS appearances. Who knows if that will actually happen, but Jays fans can take some comfort in one thing: this isn’t the Rockies organization. No matter how bad it is, it can always be worse.
Mtog
Trade Kikuchi, Richards, Garcia for MLB ready players. Move KK, Turner for anything (eat half the salaries if need be). If someone offers anything decent for Kirk, do it. If you can move Springer (again half salary retained), do it. Probably need to take a bad contract back on that deal. If someone makes a great offer for Vlad or Bo, do it. Need MLB ready prospects back or close to it. I would keep Gausman and Bassitt and resign Jansen. Play the “kids” this year to see what you have. There’s a lot of really good UFAs this winter so signing one or two could move this team forward again in 2025. Get below the tax line this year so it resets for 2025. And for the love of god please fire Atkins and co!!
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
What do you think about Berrios, arguably their best pitcher and whom they could get a haul for?? And nobody is taking on the $60+ million still owed Springer. Not even if they paid it down substantially.
its_happening
Jays need to eat Springer’s contract and keep him. Rest of the guys should be up for grabs.
jimmertee
Mtog, I like your thinking. I would make everyone available for trading except, Berrios, Vladdy Jr, and Martinez.
dragonwoods
Ths issue is do we really want this front office making any of these decisions? It’s become painfully obvious that neither Bo or Vlad wanna stay in Toronto long term. Their careers would be over before this team has a real shot at playoff success. The farm system is one of the worst in baseball so much for the promise it would be a haven for on going star talent. So do you really try one more time next yr when under this front office it’s regressed 4 yrs in a row? Or do you maximize the haul you could get now and reset with a lot more potential talent in the farm? Because even if they are sort of better next yr but miss the playoffs then Bo and Vlad walk away for a couple 3rd compensation picks that a hell of a way to start your rebuild. I really really really don’t want this front office to make those decisions.
its_happening
A no-win situation, Rogers will replace the current regime with the very same regime with different names. Rinse and repeat.
Hank Murphy
Until the Shatkins duo is gone this team is D.O.A.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Hey Lahey, tell Randy to put a shirt on.
jimmertee
The BlueJays need an elite baseball executive running the show. They could have had AA, they could have had Dombrowksi but now who is available and elite? Sadly there are not many elite executives available out there at the moment. Pat Gillick wants to stay retired. Perhaps Jeter. No one else.