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Astros Acquire Yusei Kikuchi

By Anthony Franco | July 30, 2024 at 1:59am CDT

The Astros are paying up to get one of the top pitchers on the market. Houston and Toronto announced a trade sending Yusei Kikuchi to the Astros for rookie righty Jake Bloss, outfielder/first baseman Joey Loperfido and minor league infielder Will Wagner. Toronto already had ample 40-man roster space to accommodate the move.

Kikuchi is behind Jack Flaherty as arguably the second-best rental starter on the market. Houston was tied to Flaherty as well as more controllable pitchers like Jameson Taillon, Erick Fedde and Zach Eflin last week. There was never much doubt that the Astros would bring in a starter, as general manager Dana Brown hasn’t been shy about the team’s need for a mid-rotation arm. The asking price on Flaherty always seemed like it might be beyond Houston’s comfort zone, making Kikuchi a sensible fallback.

The 33-year-old Kikuchi has had mixed results this season and throughout his career more broadly. Over 115 2/3 innings this year, he carries a 4.75 ERA that’s right in line with his 4.72 mark in parts of six MLB campaigns. Kikuchi’s strikeout and walk profile is quite a bit more impressive than that run prevention figure suggests. He has punched out 26.2% of opposing hitters while walking only 6% of batters faced. Among pitchers with 100+ innings, Kikuchi ranks 19th in strikeout percentage and 16th in strikeout/walk rate differential. He’s getting swinging strikes at a 12.4% rate that places him among the top 30 in that group.

A .340 average on balls in play and modest 70.6% left on base rate have nevertheless pushed his ERA close to 5.00. Those marks were nearer to league average in 2023, when the Japanese southpaw turned in a 3.86 ERA over 32 starts with similar strikeout and walk rates as he’s posted this season. Houston is betting on positive regression in those sequencing and batted ball results.

Teams have long been intrigued by Kikuchi, who boasts some of the best raw stuff of any left-hander in baseball. His fastball sits north of 95 MPH and he has the ability to miss bats with all four of his offerings (four-seam, curveball, slider, changeup). Kikuchi has had a difficult time keeping the ball in the park throughout his MLB career, though. He’s allowing homers at an elevated 1.32 clip per nine this season and has given up more longballs than the average pitcher in every full season of his major league tenure. Right-handed batters have generally given him trouble, though he’s holding them a more manageable .280/.323/.441 slash in 409 plate appearances this year.

While Kikuchi isn’t without flaws, he’s a plug-and-play option for the middle of a Houston rotation that certainly needed one. The Astros have been hit hard by starting pitching injuries all year. They lost Cristian Javier and José Urquidy to Tommy John surgery. Depth starter J.P. France went down with a season-ending shoulder issue. Justin Verlander has had two injured list stints and has been shelved since the middle of June because of neck soreness. Lance McCullers Jr. has hit continued snags in his effort to return from a flexor tendon surgery. They had to slow down Luis Garcia in his work back from Tommy John surgery, though he’s again throwing bullpen sessions after being pulled off a minor league rehab stint earlier this month.

Framber Valdez is leading the rotation and has a 3.43 ERA over 18 starts. Hunter Brown has bounced back from a disastrous April and pitched like a top-of-the-rotation arm for the last three months. Ronel Blanco has been a godsend after injuries pushed him into the fifth starter role out of camp. He carries a 2.95 ERA across 119 frames.

While that’s a decent top three, the depth is questionable. Spencer Arrighetti has a 5.58 ERA over his first 19 MLB starts. Houston had pushed Bloss to the majors within a year of drafting him, largely reflecting their lack of alternatives in the upper minors. The Astros are hoping to get Verlander and Garcia (and potentially McCullers) back at some point, but they’ve also pushed Blanco to new workload heights. The 30-year-old righty had never thrown more than 88 innings in a major or minor league campaign before this year. He’s already 31 innings beyond that.

Kikuchi, who hasn’t missed a start in two years, has provided the kind of durability that the Astros have generally lacked. There’s injury risk with any pitcher, of course, but the Astros are no doubt thrilled to land a pitcher who is tied for fifth in MLB in starts going back to last year’s Opening Day.

Doing so comes at a cost. Bloss is arguably the top pitching prospect in a fairly thin Houston farm system. A third-round pick out of Georgetown last summer, the 6’3″ righty quickly pitched his way towards the top of the prospect pipeline. Baseball America recently ranked him the #2 prospect in the organization, while he’s in the overall Top 100 (and second in the organization) at FanGraphs.

BA suggests he’s likely to fit at the back of a rotation, while FanGraphs credits him with mid-rotation potential. Both outlets write that his mid-90s fastball plays especially well at the top of the strike zone because of its backspin and Bloss’ deceptively low release height. He has a pair of solid breaking pitches, while his changeup is a work in progress.

Opponents have hit him hard over his three big league starts. He has given up nine runs on 16 hits (including five homers) over 11 2/3 innings. Were it not for Houston’s injury woes, he probably wouldn’t have made his MLB debut yet. Bloss has pitched very well in the minors this season, working to a 1.64 ERA with a 25.6% strikeout rate across 66 innings. Yet he’d made all of eight starts at Double-A and one Triple-A appearance before being pushed to the big leagues out of necessity. A more typical development path would probably still have him at Double-A right now.

Bloss has all three options remaining. The 23-year-old is under control for at least six seasons beyond this one and could stick around even longer if the Jays send him to the minors for further development. Bloss could factor into next year’s rotation as the Jays try to quickly return to contention, maybe slotting into the rotation spot vacated by Kikuchi’s departure.

Getting Bloss alone would’ve been a strong return for a half-season of Kikuchi’s services. Loperfido, 25, ranked as Houston’s #5 prospect on BA’s latest update. A seventh-round selection out of Duke in 2021, he hit his way to the big leagues earlier this year. Loperfido combined for a .278/.370/.510 slash between three minor league levels last season. He was obliterating Triple-A pitching early this season and owns a .272/.365/.568 mark with 13 homers over 39 games in the Pacific Coast League this year.

Of course, the PCL is an extremely favorable environment for hitters. BA’s scouting report credits Loperfido with above-average but not elite power. He was striking out an elevated 28% clip against Triple-A pitching. The whiffs have carried over in his first look at MLB arms. Loperfido has fanned in 36.4% of his 118 MLB plate appearances to date. He’s hitting .236/.299/.358 in 38 games.

Loperfido isn’t a great athlete or defensive player. He was drafted as a second baseman but he’s moved off the position entirely this year. Houston has divided his time between the outfield and first base in Triple-A. They haven’t given him any major league starts at first base, which is a bit of a surprise considering the mediocre production they’ve gotten out of the position from Jon Singleton and the since-released José Abreu.

Wagner is the third piece in the deal, but he’s a prospect in his own right. The son of seven-time All-Star Billy Wagner, Will ranks 19th in the Houston system at Baseball America. A former 18th-round pick out of Liberty, Wagner has outperformed his draft stock and is posting huge numbers in Triple-A. He’s hitting .307/.424/.429 with a massive 16.2% walk percentage against a tiny 10.2% strikeout rate across 324 plate appearances.

The left-handed hitting Wagner is old for the level — today is his 26th birthday — but he has little more to prove in the minors. He has divided his time between first, second and third base this year. He’d be eligible for the Rule 5 draft this winter if not selected onto the 40-man roster but could get a look in Toronto before the end of this season.

That’s three controllable players at or near the MLB level. The Astros were fine giving them up while they’re in a tight battle with the Mariners and Rangers for the AL West crown. Beyond the prospects, they’re adding salary to what is already a franchise-high payroll. The Astros had a competitive balance tax estimate around $256MM before the deal (as calculated by RosterResource). Unless there are cash considerations involved, they’ll take on roughly $3.33MM remaining on Kikuchi’s $10MM salary. That pushes them beyond the $257MM threshold that marks the second tier of luxury penalization. They’re taxed at a 32% rate on spending up to $277MM, so they’ll take on roughly $1MM in taxes on top of the money they owe Kikuchi.

Toronto sheds some money from its tax ledger — more than the Astros are taking on. Kikuchi’s three-year, $36MM free agent deal was frontloaded to pay him $16MM in the first season. Toronto’s competitive balance tax hit was nevertheless the contract’s $12MM average annual value, so Kikuchi had a higher CBT hit than actual salary this year.

When a player on a guaranteed contract is traded, the CBT ledger is recalculated based on the salary remaining at the time of the trade. The Astros assume the prorated amount of a $10MM salary while the Jays drop the prorated portion of the $12MM for which Kikuchi had counted against their books — approximately $4MM. That could aid them in trying to slip below the $237MM base threshold this year. Their exact CBT number is pending the reporting of the amount of cash they included in the Justin Turner trade with Seattle this afternoon.

The Athletic’s Jim Bowden first reported the Astros were nearing a deal for Kikuchi that would send Bloss to Toronto. ESPN’s Jeff Passan confirmed a Kikuchi trade was in place. Ken Rosenthal, Kaitlyn McGrath and Chandler Rome of the Athletic reported that the Jays were acquiring two other prospects. Ben Nicholson-Smith and Shi Davidi of Sportsnet first reported Loperfido and Wagner were in the deal.

Images courtesy of USA Today Sports.

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  1. Champ world champion Texas Rangers

    1 year ago

    Scary

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    • yeasties

      1 year ago

      Scary to Houston!

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      • Champ world champion Texas Rangers

        1 year ago

        It was a Joke lol

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        • dejota

          1 year ago

          Didn’t he just hang a W on you despite giving up 5?

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        • lesterdnightfly

          1 year ago

          He’s here all week, folks.
          But if you crave better humor, Shecky Greene is in the next room.

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        • Champ world champion Texas Rangers

          1 year ago

          Yep rangers can’t hit anyone right now so scoring 5 runs against him isn’t a good sign for Houston he’s a #5 starter.

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        • Champ world champion Texas Rangers

          1 year ago

          Dude has a career 5 ERA

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        • Philip5

          1 year ago

          No word on why toronto wanted bloss back?

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        • Rexhudler86

          1 year ago

          @champ they gave up alot for him as well, must think they can fix him.

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    • damhikt

      1 year ago

      I would love to see him back with the blue jays in the offseason.

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    • astros_fan_84

      1 year ago

      Holy overpay!

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      • thickiedon

        1 year ago

        Any of the 3 Astros would’ve been an overpay. This is pathetic

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        • Rocker49

          1 year ago

          This was highway robbery, maybe Dana Brown is mentally challenged??? Worst trade ever, Blue Jays just bent them over.

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        • wwnw

          1 year ago

          Thinking about updating the UPS slogan: “What can Brown do to screw up?”

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  2. jeff51488

    1 year ago

    Wow

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  3. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    1 year ago

    There’s the response to the mariners

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    • MR. Q

      1 year ago

      They responded by getting pitcher that will throw BP session to Randy and JT

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  4. Reynaldo's

    1 year ago

    Nooo, he’s such a good guy to have to go to such a trash team.

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  5. Simm

    1 year ago

    Another possible padres gone.

    Which starters are left?

    Flaherty (Yankees maybe)

    Quantrill

    Anderson

    Crochet

    Who am I missing?

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    • CGG12

      1 year ago

      Maybe Nestor if the Yanks acquire Flaherty

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    • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

      1 year ago

      Maybe Taillon if a top controllable catching prospect ready for 2025 is part of the return.

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      • cwizzy6

        1 year ago

        Lol. I mean, yeah that would be the dream for the Cubs, but thats never going to happen.

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    • FanDan

      1 year ago

      Get ready for Rich Hill.

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      • solaris602

        1 year ago

        Teams can still find their thrill by signing Richard Hill!

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        • HankHollywood

          1 year ago

          Wins will flow like a fountain with the acquisition of Dick Mountain!

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        • FanDan

          1 year ago

          Getting closer to a reality.

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    • King123

      1 year ago

      Frankie Montas, Nick Martinez

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    • KamKid

      1 year ago

      I’m not convinced the Jays wouldn’t move Bassitt. I’m sure there are teams with controllable pieces that haven’t been talked about as obvious trade candidates that could be had. It sounds like Nestor Cortes could be one.

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    • cmancoley

      1 year ago

      He’s not necessarily a game changer but Tyler Anderson

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    • Blue Baron

      1 year ago

      Simm: It’s not all about the Padres.

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      • Brew88

        1 year ago

        It isn’t?

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  6. Brew’88

    1 year ago

    The rentals are dropping off the board

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  7. Scrap Iron

    1 year ago

    Dana Brown is an idiot. This guy has a career ERA of 4.75, and you gave them a pitching prospect with a higher ceiling than that?? I guess now he can say that he made a trade, just to make a trade.

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    • thickiedon

      1 year ago

      Kikuchi has been trash the last 2 months

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      • Scrap Iron

        1 year ago

        He has a career 4.75 ERA, he’s never been good.

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        • Reynaldo's

          1 year ago

          Educate yourself on FIP.

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        • vikingbluejay67

          1 year ago

          You’ve never been good either.

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        • Patriot12992

          1 year ago

          his career fip is 4.64 pretty much in line with his ERA. I know his fip is lower this year but he is a pretty middling pitcher, nothing wrong with that though, will definitely help the stros.

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        • User 401527550

          1 year ago

          The most crap stat ever invented.

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        • Canuckleball

          1 year ago

          “he’s never been good”

          He had a solid season last year (111 ERA+) and a good start to this year. Then the wheels fell off.

          But he was actually a solid pitcher as recently as a year ago.

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        • bigdaddyt

          1 year ago

          He was really good for half of last year and the first 3rd of this year. Jays infield is atrocious and he has very little run support. Kukuchi was considered a terrible signing after the first year in Toronto and has managed to turn it around a become a fan favourite

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        • gomer33

          1 year ago

          The Jays lead the league in DRS, while Varsho is other worldly boosting those numbers from the outfield, their infield overall is not atrocious defensively by no means.

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        • vtadave

          1 year ago

          A 6.87 ERA and 1.56 WHIP in his last 12 starts seems bad.

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        • vtadave

          1 year ago

          only when it doesn’t fit one’s narrative

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    • ryrockak

      1 year ago

      Astros are in win now mode

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    • Blue Baron

      1 year ago

      Scrap Iron: And yet Brown is an actual MLB GM.

      When you get a job like that, you could be an idiot too.

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    • johnrealtime

      1 year ago

      Should they have traded him for an (unproven) pitcher with a lower ceiling than that? You may be surprised to learn that it would likely not get the deal done

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  8. jdgoat

    1 year ago

    Wow a guy like Bloss is more than I was expecting for Kikuchi after his last few weeks. Even if he only ends up as a back end of the rotation pitcher that’s a lot better than anybody we have who’s anywhere close to the majors at the moment.

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    • Scrap Iron

      1 year ago

      It’s like he made a trade, just to make a trade

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    • Digdugler

      1 year ago

      Everyone must go! The Jays 26 man should be down to 0 by Wednesday!

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    • georgebell 2

      1 year ago

      Shoulder inflammation last month for Bloss

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      • jdgoat

        1 year ago

        Him going under the knife in the next few weeks would be very par for the course for this Jays season.

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        • georgebell 2

          1 year ago

          Unless there is more to the deal I am assuming Ross was only able to get Bloss due to the injury risk

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    • solaris602

      1 year ago

      Shatkins making a case (in their minds) for not getting fired after this heist. Bloss goes right into the rotation and will probably have a better stretch run than Kikuchi.

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      • Ashleyr

        1 year ago

        So, why bother trading Mitch White, Pearson, plus others that NEVER gave up 5 homers in only 11 MlB innings with atrocious numbers. He will be lucky to rank in the top 30 in the future. There is NO way he goes into the Jays rotation to be blown out in the first inning every game.

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        • jdgoat

          1 year ago

          Ashley it’s never a good idea to look into a small sample size of 3 games to form an opinion like this, and especially a sample size of 3 games that is inflated by 1 game!

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      • jimmertee

        1 year ago

        This deal does not save Atkins job.

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      Yeah I like the deal for the Jays. They need good young pitching.

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    • shane

      1 year ago

      Not for a team in last place with Kikuchi only being under team control for the rest of this year. It’s a solid deal for the Jays.

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    • thickiedon

      1 year ago

      How bout 2 rookies and a prospect, Urkel?
      Geez, this deal is beyond absurd

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  9. davengmusic

    1 year ago

    Eh, not the worst!

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    • davengmusic

      1 year ago

      And now I see we threw in more people. Now this trade is absolutely the worst. What an awful trade!

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  10. User 355748524

    1 year ago

    Like I said in the last post regarding Kikuchi-Astros rumors, they need another starter to push Arrigehti down to the 5 spot and Bloss back to Triple-A.

    They did just that with this move. I’m not leaping with joy over it, but it’s a solid get.

    Now I’m just worried about who they had to give up for him…

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    • User 355748524

      1 year ago

      …Or I guess they could just give up Bloss instead.

      Sheesh, that sucks.

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  11. thickiedon

    1 year ago

    What an overpay

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    • Scrap Iron

      1 year ago

      Yep

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  12. O'sSayCanYouSee

    1 year ago

    I had Bloss going to the Cubs; Ivy League meets over-grown Ivy.

    (Go Pards!!)

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  13. Schlootle

    1 year ago

    If it’s only Jake Bloss I can understand it I guess. Astros just need a rental to finish out the season. They have 6 (or is it 5 at this point?) starting pitchers on the IL who are significant pieces, when they start coming back the rotation is going to get very crowded.

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    • Scrap Iron

      1 year ago

      It won’t be. Dana Brown is an idiot.

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      • Astros2017&22Champs

        1 year ago

        Kikuchi’s Fip is 3.64. A full run lower than his era. He will be pitching behind a far superior defense. He’s been beat up by the HR ball. His babip is also at a career high .340. I expect positive regression and his ability to eat innings is what the Astros need. Saying Dana is an idiot is just flat out wrong and demeaning. His first draft has already paid off dividends.

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        • gomer33

          1 year ago

          You might want to look up how the Jays are fielding the ball, I thought they were first overall but now second to the Guardians in DRS. Houston is 22nd.

          Jays DRS 56
          Astros DRS -5

          Not even the same ballpark.

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        • smuzqwpdmx

          1 year ago

          You’re looking to a guy who’s thrown more than 5 innings in
          2 of his last 9 starts (and has always been a low innings guy) as your innings eater? And counting on positive regression from a guy pitching to his exact career norms? And you think not having KK and Varsho in his outfield is going to make him better, and that being burned by home runs is unlucky? And you’re happy to give up 3 prospects for that? Well, as a Blue Jays fan, thank you very much and good luck with that.

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  14. SadMsFan

    1 year ago

    lol I expected Houston to get someone…you know…talented. They’ll still win the division and at least make it to the ALCS, but I mean, it’s funny they chose not to do better-a lot better. Maybe they’ll make another move? If this is it, I’ll be surprised.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 year ago

      It’s cool you have a crystal ball and can predict the future. What are next week’s lottery numbers? And why even bother being a fan of the M’s when you’re already conceding the division to the Astros??

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  15. nstale

    1 year ago

    I’m not mad at this deal, depending on what other pieces are involved. Bloss has been great in AA but that hasn’t translated to success in the bigs. If it’s a 1 for 1 swap its a decent deal for both sides

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    • Blackpink in the area

      1 year ago

      He really doesn’t belong in the bigs yet. Bloss is looking like a good future player but Astros are in win now mode.

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    • thickiedon

      1 year ago

      But it’s not 1 for 1 unfortunately. Going to miss Loperfido’s stellar plays

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  16. jdgoat

    1 year ago

    I don’t know if I’d love this as an Astros fan. I don’t usually like to look at numbers like this due to the randomness but Kikuchi has a 7.71 career ERA in 8 starts at Minute Maid Park. Granted that has been against an elite Astros offense, but I just don’t think his style plays up well there, especially with the Crawford Boxes in left field.

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    • GB85

      1 year ago

      As a Jays fan, I’m pretty thrilled with the return on two months of Kikuchi. Atkins is actually making out like a bandit this trade deadline, and I believe he’s buying himself some good will with the fan base as well. Let’s see what else he can pull off before the deadline closes tomorrow.

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      • smuzqwpdmx

        1 year ago

        The impressive part is that Atkins has acquired several pieces that can help in 2025. Instead of just restocking the lower levels of the farm system like I expected, he’s actually managed to convince me that contending in 2025 could be reasonable by getting talent that’s ready to step in. I guess it really is a seller’s market.

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  17. goastros123

    1 year ago

    Underwhelming trade for the Astros.

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  18. TennVol

    1 year ago

    For Astros fans, you will like Kikucci. Great teammate, great with the fans and gives his all for the team. Has lots of talent and a 96-98 FB from the left-hand side. Has some problems with control but when he is on, he is unhittable. Goes in streaks as well. Was dominant for 6 weeks and then got off track and has struggled. Most of the time he will pitch well for 3-4 innings and then things go crazy, and he gives up 6 runs in the 5th inning, something like that. If the Astros have a good pitching coach and can tinker slightly with his pitch selection and mechanics, he could go on a heater, and you will love him.

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    • GB85

      1 year ago

      Pete Walker was quoted as saying Kikuchi has been very anxious about the uncertainty of being traded, which could have affected his last two outings. He’s a work horse, hasn’t missed a start in forever and is a fan-favorite in Toronto.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 year ago

      That’s one thing about Kikuchi, he throws a ton of pitches. It’s very rare to see him throw more than five innings it seems. Even if he’s wiping everyone out, he throws so many pitches he gets taken out somewhere in the sixth inning.

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    • thickiedon

      1 year ago

      UTenn have you seen Loperfido’s web gems tho?

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  19. Arte Moreno

    1 year ago

    Blue Jays Trade Deadline chant: SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL, DUMP DUMP DUMP DUMP DUMP, no baseball identity, no leadership

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    • GB85

      1 year ago

      Keep crying, I guess. Atkins is making out like a bandit this trade deadline but if you want to keep screaming into your computer screen, have at it.

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  20. LFGMets (Metsin7) #ConsistentlyBannedBaseballExpert

    1 year ago

    Kikuchi gets blown up every other start. Don’t know how hes even in the majors to begin with

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  21. User 1939973770

    1 year ago

    Of course the Astros trade the pitcher I wanted them to keep the most.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 year ago

      The Astros barely have any pitchers to begin with. But I guess some will be returning, eventually.

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  22. Samuel

    1 year ago

    The recent Jays trades are exactly what Shapiro did in Cleveland. When the team stunk, all players on their ML roster were traded for for anything they could get. Then those players were thrown against
    the wall to see if anything would stick. Little did.

    At that time Atkins was not making trades, He was in player development.

    Later Antonetti and Francona took over Baseball Ops when Shapiro was kicked upstairs to the business side. The organization became disciplined and surgical in their moves. They started developing players with strong fundamentals. Slowly the team started to win.

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    • CTS4

      1 year ago

      Excellent time to fire atkins , is 1 minute after the trade deadline is over tomorrow !!
      shapiro has to go too !!

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    • Elon’sDOGEbag

      1 year ago

      The Blue Jays are in general a mess- I agree.

      However, Atkins made pretty good on this trade. I don’t see how that comparison is warranted.

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      • CTS4

        1 year ago

        This trade looks like James Click was all over this ….atkins and shapiro got us here and have Failed miserably…The 2 Cleveland Clowns have to be Fired !!

        The lackie atkins deserves No Credit whatsoever !!

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  23. texgal01

    1 year ago

    I could see Bloss going as has been in minors the least time. Just drafted. I wonder if Houston is not done. But if only Kikuchi for Bloss. Bloss skipped AAA due to we needed pitching. His shoulder was due to over usage in his first start threw 40 pitches in one inning. Espada saw something when he threw next inning and only inflamation . But hope he can help.

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  24. goastros123

    1 year ago

    There has to be more.

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  25. texgal01

    1 year ago

    I hope this is not Houston only move. Framber, Blanco and Brown and Kikuchi and Arrighetti. Not great. Verlander maybe back for September and Garcia. But someone else of a starter could not hurt.

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  26. Monkey’s Uncle

    1 year ago

    Yusei…
    I only hear what I want to
    And you say, I talk so all the time, so
    And I thought what I felt was simple
    And I thought that I don’t belong
    And now that I am leavin’
    Now I know that I did somethin’ wrong
    ‘Cause I missed you…
    Yeah yeah, I missed you

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    • Ronk325

      1 year ago

      Nothing like a Lisa Loeb reference in 2024

      1
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      • BetterMuppet:JUDGEorKERMIT?

        1 year ago

        Jays played it everytime he struck someone out at home.

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  27. typicaljaysfan

    1 year ago

    I think Kikuchi will do well in Houston. He’s been vocal about the rumours bothering him, so I think now that it’s settled he can lock in for the stretch run.

    Before the last few starts, he had a run of almost a year and a half of solid results.

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  28. stymeedone

    1 year ago

    Harris better trade Flaherty before every team looking, finds one.

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  29. AceKing

    1 year ago

    Which Kikuchi are they getting?

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    • BetterMuppet:JUDGEorKERMIT?

      1 year ago

      2022

      Reply
  30. energel

    1 year ago

    because of bloss gone the pirates are currently getting mowed down by a reliever in his third inning as an opener

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  31. FartCop

    1 year ago

    If Bloss becomes a solid starter, he better be nicknamed Bloss Hog.

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    • high_upside

      1 year ago

      Big Bloss Man.

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      • davengmusic

        1 year ago

        Lip Bloss

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  32. Rishi

    1 year ago

    You-say-kikuchi. And I say hell no. Hell no, hell no. I don’t know why you want this guy; I say hell no.

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    • FOmeOLS

      1 year ago

      He’s a solid #3. Wish he were in Baltimore.

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      • Rishi

        1 year ago

        I’m joking. But yeah I don’t think he’s a #3 starter on a good team. I think he’s improved the last couple of years but really has been fairly not good his whole career. He gets chances and people see the outliers as turns for the best because he is a strikeout guy. But to me he’s just a blah starter.

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        • FOmeOLS

          1 year ago

          Yeah but a whole lotta blah starters retire with 80 million or so.

          Reply
  33. FOmeOLS

    1 year ago

    Stay away from the trash cans, Yusei!

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  34. Simm

    1 year ago

    Dude this trade market is insane.

    Padres should become sellers. They would have a team stacked with 20 top 100 prospects.

    When rentals with over 5 era’s are getting good prospects back it’s time to sell sell sell.

    Being a little sarcastic but still.

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  35. Motor City Beach Bum

    1 year ago

    That is a good package for Toronto. I like all three of those prospects, especially Wagner.

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    • User 1939973770

      1 year ago

      I think Bloss has the most upside. Loperfido strikes out too much and is already 25. Wagner is 26 and hasn’t made his MLB debut. Feel like both are insurance for Vlad leaving

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  36. User 1939973770

    1 year ago

    A bit of an overpay for 2 months of a starting pitcher.

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  37. goastros123

    1 year ago

    This is a horrible trade.

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    • kylegocougs

      1 year ago

      Did they trade both their top 2? Liperfido and Bloss?

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      • yankeejim

        1 year ago

        Moron Dana Brown traded Astros #2, 8 and 22 prospects for a 2 month rental with a 4.75 ERA. Jays FLEECED the rookie GM!

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        • Rexhudler86

          1 year ago

          @yankeejim. James click came from the Astros. Pretty sure he drafted those guys. So 100% it’s going to be a brutal trade

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        • User 1939973770

          1 year ago

          He didn’t draft Bloss.

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  38. cr4

    1 year ago

    Holy fleece man the blue jays just robbed them blind. If Yusei doesn’t resign it could get ugly very quickly

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  39. georgebell 2

    1 year ago

    I will give Atkins credit for this one

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  40. Captainmike1

    1 year ago

    A smart team would try and get JP Sears from Oakland on the cheap and watch what he can do with a real team behind him

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  41. kylek58

    1 year ago

    Holy what a fleece by Atkins, idk how he spun this one

    5
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  42. Ronk325

    1 year ago

    There are a lot of terrible GMs across the league these days and Dana Brown might be the worst of them all

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  43. SadMsFan

    1 year ago

    Bad trade…really bad trade. Wow!

    2
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  44. Badtakesonly

    1 year ago

    Holy bad.

    1
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  45. Rsox

    1 year ago

    Apparently it’s a race between the Rays and Jays to see who can get rid of more players before the deadline

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  46. SewaldSwansonSwoon

    1 year ago

    Wow. Bloss AND Loperfido? Sheesh

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  47. mcmannes

    1 year ago

    One of the worst overpays I’ve seen in recent memory. We have up a dude with OBP of 400, a kid in Joey with potential and a top pick P after a few starts who has great stuff.
    All this for a rental Dude who can’t pitch? WOW

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  48. Buzzz Killington

    1 year ago

    Happy birthday

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  49. Billy Wyatt

    1 year ago

    Wait what?

    1
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  50. jdgoat

    1 year ago

    I cannot believe this is the package we got for a guy who’s struggled lately. I almost feel like you have to seriously kick the tires for Bassitt and Gausman trades if this is what Kikuchi returned. Insanely good sellers market right now.

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    • Digdugler

      1 year ago

      everyone must go! I think Kooch is better than he has shown the last 2 or 3 though.

      Reply
    • jimmertee

      1 year ago

      Agreed JD. Gausman first at the very least.

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    • Scrap Iron

      1 year ago

      Fire Dana Brown.

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  51. shane

    1 year ago

    Wow.

    Houston really wanted Kikuchi.

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    • Scrap Iron

      1 year ago

      Their GM is the worst in MLB.

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  52. jimmertee

    1 year ago

    Atkins gets good pospect capital. He didn’t save his job though.

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  53. Prsabroso

    1 year ago

    That is a lot to give to any rental, but especially for a #4 or #5 starter.

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  54. Edp007

    1 year ago

    Jays fans were grudgingly pleasantly surprised if not shocked by Atkins before this trade. Now he’s a star bandit

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  55. Scrap Iron

    1 year ago

    Toronto made out like a bandit for a below average pitcher. Fire Dana Brown.

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  56. 2020Sucks 2

    1 year ago

    Houston got the No Vaseline treatment

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  57. bluejays92

    1 year ago

    Wishing Kikuchi the best but I really like this trade for us. Bloss and Loperfido seem quite intriguing as prospects.

    Kind of feel for Wagner though. Born in Houston where his dad played, drafted by the team and looked not all that far from playing for them… just to get traded… on his birthday. I guess the Jays really needed to have another son of an Astros great in the organization ever since Biggio was sent to LA.

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    • thickiedon

      1 year ago

      You’re gonna love watching Loperfido’s stellar plays. Enjoy

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  58. gtb1

    1 year ago

    Has to be something more here. Ridiculous.

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  59. Touch 'em all Joe

    1 year ago

    Talk about a seller’s market. That is a substantial return for 2 months of a player.

    Kikuchi’s best attribute is his durability. However, his inconsistencies are his Achilles’ heel. When he is on, he is on. When things start to unravel for him, look out…

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  60. raef715

    1 year ago

    makes me feel better about what the Phils gave up for Estevez, but if Astros feel that strongly about Kikuchi, you do what you have to do. Imagine what Flaherty will bring as a return now.

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  61. Altuve4hof

    1 year ago

    Need to throw valdy in there for that price

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  62. Nervehammer

    1 year ago

    The blue jays always fleece the mariners. I swear. This is coming from an Astros fan. Joey Loperfido is gonna have a breakout next year

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  63. Chrost

    1 year ago

    Horrible deal. Might as well stuck with bloss in the rotation

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  64. jimmertee

    1 year ago

    This deal doesn’t save Atkins job. Here is ESPN grade of the deal to the Jays. Blue Jays grade: C+

    Toronto needed to receive something from Kikuchi, and they weren’t going to get a huge haul for two months of him. Bloss was a third-round pick last year by the Astros out of Georgetown, a school known more for shot-blocking centers and point guards with wicked crossovers than starting pitchers. But he rose quickly through the Houston system based on strong minor league numbers that included a hits-allowed rate of less than a half-hit per inning.

    That hasn’t yet translated to the majors, but he is just getting started. Bloss throws six pitches, according to Statcast, and features a working velocity of about 93 mph on his four-seamer. After that, his arsenal rotates depending on the hitter: a slider to everybody, a curve/change combo to lefties and a sweeper he uses against righties.

    That is a lot of moving parts, sure, but that also is fodder for optimization, and those hit rates in the minors suggest someone hard to barrel up. — Doolittle

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    • wwnw

      1 year ago

      But look what Seattle traded for Azorena, who will be there next year. #12, #22, and a PTBNL. Atkins is probably lining up more to trade to Brown. I bet Detroit wishes they would have fleece him, too. But it’s not too late. Come on Brown. Trash the rest of your minor league teams.

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    • User 3048809731

      1 year ago

      That grade was clearly before the trade updated to add 2 other players

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    • CTS4

      1 year ago

      James Click is all over this, the lackie atkins is doing what he is told to do…shapiro and carryon atkins have to go …

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  65. Tuv27❤️

    1 year ago

    If True on Joey & Will??
    I am MADDER then a Wet Hen

    For you young ones out there- may not understand what that means, but I just can’t believe Dana did that for Someone Less then a #1- Good Lord!!
    I haven’t been this Mad about a trade in Years.
    This defys explanation.

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    • Astros_fan_in_Aus

      1 year ago

      I am with you. Trading Bloss was bad enough, but Loperfido is criminal. I would rather they included Myers with Wagner and called it done.
      Brown has shown – again – that he doesn’t have a grip on this job.

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  66. BKS1110

    1 year ago

    One of the worst trades I’ve ever seen. Maybe the worst in Astros history. Unthinkably horrible.

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  67. max l

    1 year ago

    Atkins totally fleeced Houston. Completely robbed Dana Brown blind.

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    • ❤️ MuteButton

      1 year ago

      Absolutely. This should be a career ruiner for Dana Brown.

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  68. Lrtexasman

    1 year ago

    Very disappointing trade for the Astros. Handful of starts and maybe 1 playoff start for 3 MLB tier 2 prospects. I do t complain much, but this is clearly a lopsided trade.

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    • wwnw

      1 year ago

      And he is a RENTAL on top of that. I didn’t think Dana Brown was that stupid, but he surprised me. I bet every team in MLB is lining up to fleece that ignoramus. Dana, why don’t you find a 35-yr old rental pitcher with an ERA of 7 and trade the entire Sugar Land team for him?

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  69. YourDreamGM

    1 year ago

    A for Jays obviously. Nuff said.

    D for Houston. They don’t think Bloss is good enough for them. We will find out.

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    • Elon’sDOGEbag

      1 year ago

      F for Houston!!

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      • YourDreamGM

        1 year ago

        I won’t argue a f. But by trading Bloss they are saying he isn’t good. Why would you trade a mlb starter with 7 years control for a rental? They don’t think much of him. So they got a starter and trying to win. Passing grade for trying. Player value wise it’s absolutely a F.

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    • Sk8

      1 year ago

      These are the same Astros that thought that getting Francisco Liriano for Teoscar Hernandez was a good idea.

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  70. FartCop

    1 year ago

    Willy Wagner, Billy’s Kid?

    Edit:oh dang it is

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  71. batman2825

    1 year ago

    HUGE overpay by Houston. As a Mariners Fan, you love to see it!

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  72. Dustyslambchops23

    1 year ago

    Atkins auditioning for his next job

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  73. BetterMuppet:JUDGEorKERMIT?

    1 year ago

    For the shatkins nation

    You disliked the contract 3 years ago
    Hated the signing 2 years ago
    We’re quiet last year
    And now they turn him into Houstons #9 and #12 prospects in Exchange for 2 months, while he is citing he would Love to come back to T.O.

    Let’s here it…..

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      1 year ago

      Atkins is only trading Kikuchi because of his failures, this is hardly a flex.

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      Come back at a discount. Also, being 3 years ago what were the alternatives? Trading some prospects for a controllable pitcher? Trading prospects for a controllable bat?

      “Shatkins nation” had every right to question the deal at the time. Very easy to be critical of fans when nobody wants to open door number 2 or 3.

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  74. rickoppelt

    1 year ago

    Kikuchi is trash. I’m glad the trashcanros WAY overpaid For him. Total idiot move. Wow. The mariners are going to walk all over him and laugh on their way to the west title.

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  75. joec 3

    1 year ago

    Although none of the prospects have a huge upside, this trade makes 0 sense for Houston

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  76. backstage1

    1 year ago

    “outfielder/first baseman Joey Loperfido”

    Loperfido isn’t really a first baseman. He played first freshman year in college and the team tried him out there in the minors when Abreu struggled but I don’t think he’s played more than 3 innings at first since getting called up. He’s an outfielder.

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  77. Schlootle

    1 year ago

    If it was ONLY Bloss for Kikuchi I can live with that. But trading both Bloss, Loperfido and another prospect for 2 months of a #5 starter is absolutely insane. I would have been happier had we done nothing for the trade deadline. Already everyone and their mother is talking about how the Blue Jays fleeced the Astros and there is nothing we can do to prove that it is not true. All we are going to hear on the radio is how Dana Brown was made a fool, all I will see on youtube and other baseball podcasts is how Dana Brown was made a fool.

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  78. Tuv27❤️

    1 year ago

    After seeing Dana’s press conference, I could… Nope I have NOTHING NICE TO SAY.

    I’ve been an Astros fan for over 56 years, its been a Long time I was this upset..

    I just saw Joey’s post game Interview, It broke my heart to see How Heartbroken he was about not being an Astro anymore.
    He is a Great Kid, with an infectious personality, defensively outstanding.

    Billy Wagner is a Legend to us down here, I have seen Will since the first time as an Infant his Mommy brought him to the Dome to see Daddy pitch-
    I thought I remembered correctly but I doubled checked- Happy 26th Birthday Will-
    What a Horrible way to end your Special day.
    I want Forget this Day.
    But I wish Joey, Will and Jake the very best in Toronto, I will follow your careers moving forward, know You always got a faithful teammate in Georgie(Springer)- He is the Best!!

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      Still not sure what Houston saw in Dana Brown, what he had accomplished in Toronto to land the Astros job.

      Reply
      • wwnw

        1 year ago

        He came from Atlanta. He did ZERO in Atlanta. Coppolella built the Braves roster. “Dumba$$” Brown just happened to be there. Crane is becoming the Jerry Jones of baseball. Fires Luhnow for being good. All he had to do was serve a suspension for ONE YEAR….like Boston’s Alex Cora.

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  79. bobby clementhay

    1 year ago

    The excrement is hitting the fan in Houston tonight, stronger than what Hurricane Beryl did to Centerpoint Energy…

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  80. Sk8

    1 year ago

    This could easily turn into Liriano for Teoscar again. As a Blue Jays fan, this pleases me.

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  81. CGG12

    1 year ago

    Finally. The Astros REAL punishment for cheating.

    All jokes.

    What in the world is Dana doing?

    Reply
  82. its_happening

    1 year ago

    This is what happens when you hire a guy from a questionable executive team to be your GM, then does his former team a solid. Dana Brown must’ve been super high on Kikuchi.

    There is a good chance none of these guys deliver much for the Jays. However, a great return considering who they traded to Houston. What would be nice is if the Jays can use some prospects to make trades this offseason for an OF bat or two and bullpen help.

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    • wwnw

      1 year ago

      Yeah, but Kimono will only be in Houston until September, when they finish third in a weak division. Loperfido’s energy was one reason Houston caught fire in June. Now he’s gone. Great reward by “Dumba$$” Brown.

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      • its_happening

        1 year ago

        Cool.

        Reply
  83. CTS4

    1 year ago

    James Click got a decent return for Kikuchi…!!

    shapiro and his useless lackie GM atkins have got to go !!

    Start with Firing atkins tonight !!

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  84. DeanGleesack

    1 year ago

    It’s like when they traded Teoscar and Aoki for a 33 year old Liriano in 2017 just to lose the World Series

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      Double check the final result.

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  85. unglar

    1 year ago

    Wow. Makes me think the Yankees shouldn’t be hunting big fish if it’s gonna cost this much to get a #4 whose metrics say #2/3

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  86. provoker

    1 year ago

    I will remind you all Shapiro/Atkins have never won anything!

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  87. wwnw

    1 year ago

    Has Dumba$$ Brown been fired yet? Not only does that idiot get fleeced on a trade, he pushes the team over the $257M cap. Keeping younger players keeps you under the cap. The sad thing is I saw his press conference on the Astros home page and he really believes he made a great deal….for Houston. He did make Toronto a great deal.

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    • NavalHistorian

      1 year ago

      Demand greatly exceeds supply this year, especially for pitching. Crochet IMO probably isn’t getting traded because of his recent contract demand. That reduced supply even further. If Crochet doesn’t get traded, Kikuchi and Fedde might be the best SPs to change teams this year.

      The Astros aren’t the only team that have given up a king’s ransom for pitching. What the Nats got from the Royals for a RP (Harvey) would have been laughable a year or two ago. What the Brewers gave up for 31 yr old Frankie Montas (5.01 ERA, 4.91 FIP) was definitely more than anybody would give up in a “normal” year.

      It seems like nobody, especially in the AL, wants to take a chance on “just” missing the playoffs, so they’re getting desperate.

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  88. NavalHistorian

    1 year ago

    Seeing deals like this makes me really sad that Trevor Williams got injured. IMO, this is the best sellers market we’ve seen in a while. Williams was having a very good season, and Rizzo could have gotten a ransom for him.

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  89. kasprowitz

    1 year ago

    Not sure what the plan is for the Astros at 1b. Singleton is not the answer & Loperfido could have been his replacement Wagner had transitioned to 3b this year but who would be Bregman’s replacement if he leaves ? Sure hope this works out but it sure seems to raise more questions than answers.

    Reply
  90. thomasg1951

    1 year ago

    Terrible for the Astros
    Good bye Brown

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